Real Rally drivers

[Imagine]

what is your oppinion on this:are real rally driver better of us :) if we would put them to play RT or not-( i dont think on haw good is simulation and behiavor of the car in RT) i think that they will do a horrible times because they will drive it too carfuly but affter few times they would beacome better of us while we if would someone put us in a real rally car we would crash in a first corner :P yust beacouse we are used to drive too fast and pres restart when we crash and start all over but you cant do that in a real life :D -hope you understeand question...
btw-maybe cjl9 can answer to this-if that in his sig. is true and not a mistery of tipe "guess who i'am?"

[Pero_Grozni]

Probably they would be better, after a long period. :smash: The problem for newcomers to sim playing is getting used to thel wheel and pedals, then refiguring the physics(when to shift, posibble tricks...). They would drive to the limit from start on and crash ocasionaly, but overall they would be able to pick better lines and they would certanly be able to keep concentration up all trough the stage. And that is what is needed to make a realy good time. And they wouldn't pay so much atention on the splits(if i am in the middle of a stage much quicker then my previous record, and i see the split, usualy i get slower-not intentionaly or crash becouse of a stupid mistake) :wave:

I belive that the reason we don't see real drivers driving here is that for them it is too boring(not enough risk) and they don't get their adrenalin values up. Even i wouldn't be playing RT if i had enough money to drive like i do every time i would feel like it(alfa driving is a rewarding nightmare). :twisted:

[Imagine]

The problem for newcomers to sim playing is getting used to thel wheel and pedals, then refiguring the physics(when to shift, posibble tricks:)and what about clutch-is it possible to have it in RT :P
And they wouldn't pay so much atention on the splits(if i am in the middle of a stage much quicker then my previous record, and i see the split, usualy i get slower-not intentionaly or crash becouse of a stupid mistake) :wave::)me too :D ,but that's why i think there is somekind "patch" to not see that splits...

[Pero_Grozni]

No idea about the clutch but it is a big factor when driving fast.
Not seeing the splits would be great, but if you are going too slow you won't know that you should speed up. :rolleyes:

[Imagine]

No idea about the clutch but it is a big factor when driving fast.im just nervous because when i get off road and stop i must change into neutral gear to rise my revs and get off :down:
Not seeing the splits would be great, but if you are going too slow you won't know that you should speed up. :rolleyes:here it is-try it :arrow:
http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=322

[Pero_Grozni]

Thanks :up:
I am going to see if i can smash some old records now.

[Imagine]

it's going to be a little hard if you dont know haw much you need to push it :o but i finde that no splits best :trophy: for just driving without hotlapping :eek:

[Pero_Grozni]

Agree with that. :)
Otherwise my favorite race/rally driver of all time is Walter Rohrl.
The things he could do in his Lancia-Audi-FANTASTIC :up: :up: :trophy: :twisted:
And he is still at it.(porsche GT3,GT2,GT)
He would certanly kick our buts. :smash:

[Dan]

there was 1 real rally driver that played RT when it first came out, and he was pretty damn fast, but no better than some of the fastest sim drivers ;)

[Pero_Grozni]

Probably once you get to the absolute limit of the physic AND eventualy you get there you can only go as fast as your car can manage.
Look at today's rallying, other competition, very close oposed to the past.

Who was that :confused:

[Dan]

a guy by the name of Simon de Banke, he also set all the benchmark times for RTRank in its early days :)

[Pero_Grozni]

Never heard of him and i am a huge fan of the whole rally sceene.
Enyway by the driver's that would kick ass i ment more on the like's of Tommi, Colin, Walter, Juha, Ari....

[Dan]

Well.. I dont doubt his calibre, after all he has set a world record for driving sideways in a Subaru Impreza, at MIRA. He managed to last 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 18 seconds!

[Dan]

here's a link to prove it

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/index.asp?id=56955

and, if I remeber correctly he only stopped then because he ran out of fuel !

[Imagine]

a guy by the name of Simon de Banke, he also set all the benchmark times for RTRank in its early days :) did he set a bench. only for A clas cars?and haw is it made-i know that times need to be good but not too much that we can't beat it :( i one readed that you have setting bench. at relay-was there any people that could beat that :trophy: :confused:
btw-i notice once at old forum Kevin de cars nick-why did you change it if that was you :OMG:

[Pero_Grozni]

I dont think that susteining drifts such long times is so hard.
I forgot the name, but i saw the footage of the record on Top Gear.
It,s only the case of making the right conditions(wet, perfect circle with the right radius, an engine that would last and 4WD-certanly no alfa,although 155Q4 is big fun) :twisted:
And the fuel thing is what i am aiming at. That's why i think it's not so hard

[John_Schoen]

Simon de Banke drove the benchmark times only with the Alpine FTC. This was done before the patch and before anyone had ever thought of dividing the cars in different classes. If you look at RTRank, you will see that he also set some times under his own name. :)

[Imagine]

Simon de Banke drove the benchmark times only with the Alpine FTC. This was done before the patch and before anyone had ever thought of dividing the cars in different classes. If you look at RTRank, you will see that he also set some times under his own name. :) is he just drive that or push it :confused: -i don't know because i dont drive Alpine-and did his time under his name better of a bench. :confused:
you got new record on russia2 :up: :trophy:

[Dan]

I dont think that susteining drifts such long times is so hard.


maybe, maybe not.. but I was just pointing out that he's not a total unheard of, I'm sure if you search you would find much more info

[John_Schoen]

is he just drive that or push it :confused: -i don't know because i dont drive Alpine-and did his time under his name better of a bench. :confused:
you got new record on russia2 :up: :trophy:
A benchmark time is just a kind of reference. It is not meant to be the fastest possible time, but just a good time that people can aim for. That is why the times under his real name are faster. :)

[Pero_Grozni]

Point taken. :up:
I never ment to say he was a slouch or so.

[cjl9]

Yes, I really did drive those rallies in the 70s...and no, I'm not famous because I wasn't fast enough ;)

As you can see from my posted times my rally experience hasn't translated into super fast times in RT either!

BTW I'd like to know the specifications of people's rigs and the setting they use for cars on each stage.

[Imagine]

Yes, I really did drive those rallies in the 70s...and no, I'm not famous because I wasn't fast enough ;) but still you conpeated :up: :up:

As you can see from my posted times my rally experience hasn't translated into super fast times in RT either!.-you will be better with time ;)

BTW I'd like to know the specifications of people's rigs and the setting they use for cars on each stage.did you meant setup of car-gearbox,suspension.... :confused:

[cjl9]

the specifications of people's PCs (processor speed, graphics card, wheel, etc.,)

[Imagine]

the specifications of people's PCs (processor speed, graphics card, wheel, etc.,) :wave: i understeand that later after Johns thread :P

[ksoy]

Rauno Aaltonen, a former winner of Monte Carlo (in the '60's), read the pace notes in Finnish version of the game. At the time RT was released he gave an interview of the making of the game in a magazine. He didn't tell any times he drove but he pointed out some interesting facts of the game. He mainly drove with the Mini and considered its behaviour pretty good (as far as I can remember, he won in Monte with a Mini). But to get the right setup he adviced to adjust the brakes all to front (to get the feeling of a proper weight distribution), to set the steering sensitivity to minimum and increase the dead zone at least to middle or more (to get your hands busy at the steering wheel :D)!

-ksoy-

[Pero_Grozni]

With my tire mods his hands would get even buisier. :twisted:
A great driver/character the old goat. :up: :trophy: