Well...I've been having a good try over Christmas, but...

[cjl9]

some of those posted stage times are amazing (to me)and awe-inspiring. I have a feeling that however much I try I won't reach those times until I upgrade to a faster processor, more and faster RAM and a faster video card.

Hmm...we'll see.

Another thought I've had is that, as an old rally driver, when doing a championship, I often drive the second set of two stages more conservatively so as to preserve a good first stage time and maintain my overall position. Going for fastest stage times, however, using "Time Trial" or whatever, you don't have to use compromise settings or worry about crashing, it's just pedal to the metal all the way.

So, I'd be interested in final rally times (for all 6 or 8 stages) as they represent a consistent effort throughout the rally.

This is FUN!!!

[Pero_Grozni]

I agree cjl9.
If you want a more challenging drive try driving with TireTeam1.0d.rtp(use 1.0GTM)
found on the editing/tire physics section page 8. The times will be dreadfull but fun guarenteed :up:

[Imagine]

some of those posted stage times are amazing (to me)and awe-inspiring. I have a feeling that however much I try I won't reach those times until I upgrade to a faster processor, more and faster RAM and a faster video card. what are you complainig-you will get to those times slowly :wave: -did you thought that with faster computer you will make a good time-i dont think about quality of a gaming but on a hardware responce-look :arrow: at the computer specs. :D

[Imagine]

I agree cjl9.
If you want a more challenging drive try driving with TireTeam1.0d.rtp(use 1.0GTM)
found on the editing/tire physics section page 8. The times will be dreadfull but fun guarenteed :up: wee are having enought incopatibilitis :down: with Ken's ps. and without and ofcourse with GTM :banghead:

[cjl9]

(just as in real rallying) is almost impossible. When I was rallying, the works teams would always have an edge over privateers.

I think Ken does a fantastic job of maintaining these stage times and dividing it up into classes to give some type of valid comparison.

I still think that some of my times will only improve significantly when I get a faster processor, faster and more memory and a fater graphics card.

Watch out though, I'm working my way through the stages in "Time Trial" mode going for fastest times. :P

[Ollo]

For whole rally times, Gamespy is great. Let me know when you want to have a try :)

[Imagine]

I still think that some of my times will only improve significantly when I get a faster processor, faster and more memory and a fater graphics card.did you ment your pleasure of playing will improwe or what :confused:

Watch out though, I'm working my way through the stages in "Time Trial" mode going for fastest times. :P im really scared ;)

[Dan]

I think Ken does a fantastic job of maintaining these stage times and dividing it up into classes to give some type of valid comparison.
well I'd like to take the credit but Ollo and John do most of the work in that forum ;)


I still think that some of my times will only improve significantly when I get a faster processor, faster and more memory and a fater graphics card.
that depends on what fps you are getting, if its low all the time and stuttering then definitely a faster computer will help, otherwise it prolly wont

[cjl9]

Ken,

Can you explain your comments, please?

I have a reasonably fast graphics card and don't get any noticeable stuttering, but...

I always assumed (and you know about "assume" I guess) that a faster processor, lots of fast memory and a bleeding edge graphics card would make the game run faster. Not so?

Christopher Lloyd (cjl9)

[Imagine]

I always assumed (and you know about "assume" I guess) that a faster processor, lots of fast memory and a bleeding edge graphics card would make the game run faster. Not so?

Christopher Lloyd (cjl9) i know what you hawe meant-i hawe readed on olo forum something about that but only in demo :arrow: take a look at old forum ;)

[John_Schoen]

There was some talk of the demo running faster on a faster computer, but I am sure it does not matter in the ful game. When I first started, I had a Pentium 3 at 800 Mhz, now a Pentium 4 at 2.4 Ghz and it does not make a difference at all for the speed of the game. A faster computer and graphics card will allow you to turn up the eye candy without stutters.
A choppy framerate can slow you down because it has an effect on your reactions. Smooth game = smooth driving, that is my theory. :)

[Dan]

Ken,

Can you explain your comments, please?

I have a reasonably fast graphics card and don't get any noticeable stuttering, but...

I always assumed (and you know about "assume" I guess) that a faster processor, lots of fast memory and a bleeding edge graphics card would make the game run faster. Not so?

Christopher Lloyd (cjl9)

sure.. the game runs at the same speed on all computers as far as I can see, I've personally played it on systems from athlon1300mhz with radeon8500 through to Pentium4 @ 3800mhz with overclocked radeon9800pro and I can do the same time's on all of them, as long as you have a constant smooth framerate (over 40 fps all the time is good) then there shouldn't be any gain in stage times.
as John said " Smooth game = smooth driving" and this is totally true in my experience, when the fps drops too low or stutters it can cause the controls to lag too sometimes and this will affect your driving, if you dont have this then there's no reason to upgrade just for a game (unless you just want more eye candy of course :) )

[cjl9]

Thanks for the explanation; now I understand. :up:

[Imagine]

@cjl9 -did you buy some new hardware :D because you beacome rally fast in one week :up: :trophy:

[cjl9]

ingredient - Ken's physics. ;)

I don't know if it's psychological or not, but since I've installed Ken's physics I've been much faster, in all cars, everywhere.



Christopher Lloyd (cjl9)

[Imagine]

ingredient - Ken's physics. ;)

I don't know if it's psychological or not, but since I've installed Ken's physics I've been much faster, in all cars, everywhere.



Christopher Lloyd (cjl9) its not psychological :headspin: -you haw some interesting threads about his physics :arrow: few threads below-read it :up:

[Dan]

I wish you'd stop doing that imagine.. making everyone think those physics are much faster for all cars when they are not :mad:

a few of the cars are.. but most are about the same as before, the main is difference is they respond better and are easier to 'feel' what the car is doing

cars which are faster - escort, saab and the class c cars.. the rest are about the same !

[Imagine]

I wish you'd stop doing that imagine.. making everyone think those physics are much faster for all cars when they are not :mad: !
ofcourse that your physics can't make a good driver from bad ;) but you got to admit that cars are :arrow: little faster
ofcourse that all cars are not equally faster becouse you made that patch to equall cars for Relay racing stuff-I don't know exactly becouse I missed that :cry:

a few of the cars are.. but most are about the same as before, the main is difference is they respond better and are easier to 'feel' what the car is doing!
Mine main stage for that testing is Switzerland 6 becouse stage is easy and I drive it a lot
In Fulvia with your physics I can get time slightly under 2 minutes :OMG: but without it and just with v1.01 physics I'm 4 sec slower. :confused: I know that diference isn't big but I think that is not becouse cars better respondes becouse I find out it is actually harder to drive FWD-s with your physics but I can't drive RWD-s without it :up: :trophy:

cars which are faster - escort, saab and the class c cars.. the rest are about the same !
I did notice that car from class c which is noticeble faster are Volvo and Saab and others are allmost the same. ;)

[cjl9]

Ken / imagine,

Since I installed your physics I have much better control over the cars...as you can see by my posted times.

However, I'd like to make two clarifications.

First, the Volvo Amazon FTC (and other "old" Class C cars like the Cortina FTC) were quicker right away. However, my improvements with the other cars are due to the much better "feedback" I get while driving them, AND...

Second, my original posted times were set while I was doing a rally championship. My latest times have been set in "Time Trial" mode. Clearly, when I have no concerns about crashing the car or maintaining my overall rally lead, and do not have to use compromise settings for a stage (as you have to during a championship) AND I can do the stage over and over then you will get the kind of improved times that I have been posting.

Plus, let's not forget my brilliant driving skills! ;) Just kidding!

Christopher Lloyd (of whom Petter Solberg said, "Who"? )

[Imagine]

First, the Volvo Amazon FTC (and other "old" Class C cars like the Cortina FTC) were quicker right away. However, my improvements with the other cars are due to the much better "feedback" I get while driving them, AND...) did you meant feedback of a FFb patch :confused:


Plus, let's not forget my brilliant driving skills! ;) Just kidding!

Christopher Lloyd (of whom Petter Solberg said, "Who"? ) you particapated men :up: ;)

[cjl9]

In real driving you get a lot of feedback, particularly about the tires' grip and the cars direction through the seat of your pants, tension on the steering wheel, etc.,

Clearly you don't get that with a sim, but...

Ken's physics made the cars much more predictable in their handling (to me anyway) and that leads to smoother driving, and that leads to faster times.

That's what I meant by feedback.

Boy, I make this sound like the Holy Grail!

[Imagine]

Boy, I make this sound like the Holy Grail! :up: :D
Ken's physics made the cars much more predictable in their handling (to me anyway) and that leads to smoother driving, and that leads to faster times.!i cant drive FWD with his physics but i cant drive RWD-s without it :trophy:

In real driving you get a lot of feedback, particularly about the tires' grip and the cars direction through the seat of your pants, tension on the steering wheel, etc.,

Clearly you don't get that with a sim, but....!
i know-and thats why i must drive with in car view because then i can judge wher is weight of the car mooved and that comes in handy when breaking ;) .......did you try that louder surface sound "patch" :wave:

[cjl9]

imagine wrote:
did you try that louder surface sound "patch"

No, I haven't.

[Imagine]

imagine wrote:
did you try that louder surface sound "patch"

No, I haven't. here it is :arrow: http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=118