Season 4 Race 9 - Saturday 28th July - Road America - Pre-Race Chat

[fane]

I want to end with that Sepang post race chat so i open this one so we can change subject.Post your thoughts about the race and this race only:up:

[Gaiajohan]

I'll try to be there, though I need a lot of sleep then, because I'm departing Sunday early in the morning to Sweden..

But if I drive I'll ttake the Lister, without setup changes drove for first time 3 laps and I'm on a 2:04.7

[Slick1]

I'll try to race despite the discouragement from steve, i have to see which i'll drive, between the saleen, maserati or the lister

[fane]

I havent decided what car to go yet but the mc12 runs very good here.The Vette will be the dark horse im sure:D

[Gaiajohan]

I havent decided what car to go yet but the mc12 runs very good here.The Vette will be the dark horse im sure:D

Lister has it's economical advantage with fuel. So 1 stop with the Lister or two with the others, but we'll see.

[fane]

Lister has it's economical advantage with fuel. So 1 stop with the Lister or two with the others, but we'll see.

Dont forget that fuel usage will return to 2x and from what i saw,everyone has to do 2 stops but i might be wrong,the lister and the vette are the same in fuel usage,the mc12 and the saleen wastes one more lt a lap

[Gaiajohan]

Dont forget that fuel usage will return to 2x and from what i saw,everyone has to do 2 stops but i might be wrong,the lister and the vette are the same in fuel usage,the mc12 and the saleen wastes one more lt a lap

The Lister is more economical than the garage says.. Corvette is usually quite right.

[Slick1]

Very interesting, i'll just have to watch what yall say, cause of what some people said in another thread, i'm going with the mc12 cause it's been a long time since i drove that and i'm sure there isn't anything that will get in they way of me racing

[Jack Stand]

FANE.....
fuel use = 2x
tires = 3x
...yes???

[BuRnY]

Well, i've never drivin this track before. So i've alot to learn:P

I'm not going to make a preview video for this one, like i did for Sepang. I would like to see some more comments on that video, so i can improve my videos in the future. You can do that in the season 4 video topic or on my video-channel at youtube.:up:

I'm going to make one for Macau, i start to shoot some footage tomorrow allready. I have some idea's for this video and maybe i can use some help next week.
But i'll let you guys know about that.:D

[sege]

FANE.....
fuel use = 2x
tires = 3x
...yes???

That's what I'd imagine, but I would have thought we have to wait for the sign up thread to confirm those details?
I've had a play and this is a terrific track, will get myself on the reserve list for this one for sure.
So far I've been mucking around with the Saleen as the AI says they win by a country mile!:roflmao:
I'm doing 2.02s which isn't too far off the opening shots listed in the hotlaps section from Fane and Steve,
Although they are opening shots, so I would have thought that eventually them aliens will be deep into the sub 2 minute hotlap territory? :D

[GearChange]

i dont get to drive the mc12 to much so i may give that a go, looks like a difficult track to learn. i will start my car testing tomorrow

[GearChange]

That's what I'd imagine, but I would have thought we have to wait for the sign up thread to confirm those details?
I've had a play and this is a terrific track, will get myself on the reserve list for this one for sure.
So far I've been mucking around with the Saleen as the AI says they win by a country mile!:roflmao:
I'm doing 2.02s which isn't too far off the opening shots listed in the hotlaps section from Fane and Steve,
Although they are opening shots, so I would have thought that eventually them aliens will be deep into the sub 2 minute hotlap territory? :D

hehe i done a ai test race with 47 cars and 1st was saleen, 2nd was c5, 3rd lister and 4th mc12 but the funny thing is there was 12 seconds between 1st and 4th, so it seems pretty wide open if you ask me.

[sege]

hehe i done a ai test race with 47 cars and 1st was saleen, 2nd was c5, 3rd lister and 4th mc12 but the funny thing is there was 12 seconds between 1st and 4th, so it seems pretty wide open if you ask me.

Don't you love that! lol!,
Very different to my results! 27 cars, All the S7's took out the top spots, a solitary MC12 came in next, then one or two Listers follwed by the Vipers and a couple of Vette's?!:p
Whatever, I 'll pick a car based on fun anyway!

[Sidewinder16]

I will be starting my testing tonight. Shall be driving the MC12 as per usual. The track looks very similar to sepang in that there is a lot of mid to high speed turns but I havent driven here before so we will see what happens later :)

[cecil-swain]

does it matter where you downloaded the track from???

[KarlosDaJackal]

does it matter where you downloaded the track from???

Downloading it from this site would be the safest option :cool:

[jayblue]

Only had a quick go here and no prior experience of the track so my times aren't brilliant at the moment. The car choice seems less important this week as they all seem relatively quick, maybe for once on first impressions i actually liked the MC12 the best, which is rare as i generally never drive it. But the track seemed to suit it. Will be hopefully doing some running tonight, although fernando has already helped us all out with regard to fuel usage, thanks :up:

[fane]

To Gaiajohan: I still think that the Lister cannot do just one pitstop.This track is diferent it has very long straights where u have to push the engine to max to have a good top speed.Going for 1 pitstop here is going too much slow and going 2 pitstops means going always 100% as i like:D.So, as Jay said,its a matter of car choice,the one that suits u better thats all.The problem for me is that i like the Saleen,the mc12 and the Lister so i will have the entire week to decide what car to go.Im seing several people naming the mc12 so maybe i will leave that out:p
As always i did a kind of a guide lap but this time is not written.I spoke during the lap so sorry for my english.I kinda miss the speech between turn 1 and 3 but it will be better next time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvgR6SN3aOk
One question to Karlos:We are almost finishing this season,is it possible to run this race with skins?
Since Oulton Park that we stopped using and Moatlspeed skin pack is the perfect choice for this cars.

[cecil-swain]

Downloading it from this site would be the safest option :cool:

but every time i click it, it crashes.

[GearChange]

cecil start a new thread in simbins simulations/gtr2 and state as much information as possible, more people will get to read it there and give you more chance of finding a solution

[th3f411]

Im getting RAILED by the carousel, I'll be driving behind an AI car and 1/4 of the way through he starts to pull away. And another corner that kills me is the up hill left hander. MY best lap is 2:13 In a Vette

Any suggestions?

[Steve_300ZX]

One question to Karlos:We are almost finishing this season,is it possible to run this race with skins?
Since Oulton Park that we stopped using and Moatlspeed skin pack is the perfect choice for this cars.

Yes would be good to try some skins again. I think it would be quite easy for everyone to get Moatles' skins. I reckon most of us have the skinpack already.

[Gaiajohan]

I have a clean and a dirty GTR2 version. The dirty version is with pilsbierbude shit.

[sege]

Im getting RAILED by the carousel, I'll be driving behind an AI car and 1/4 of the way through he starts to pull away. And another corner that kills me is the up hill left hander. MY best lap is 2:13 In a Vette

Any suggestions?

Yeah I haven't got the knack of the carosel either, the AI is poor on this non-standard track but at 120% they still eat me through there, at the moment I'm lifting when something like a lawnmover(!?) or marshal point in the distance crosses my line of sight at the entrance to the corner, then gassing it again through what seems like a straighter patch in the middle of the corner, then lifting again before the exit. Kind of like a scrappy double apex, but I'm sure some of the others will have better way through here....

Which uphill left? the one at the bottom of morraine sweep? if so I'm trying not to brake until the No. 4 board, (second braking board in) and carry maximum speed into the corner, although it's tight(ish) i reckon this corner should be fast in/slow out. (it's only a short little uphill straight before the next tricky left.

I'm generally a bit of a coward on the brakes too, so no doubt others will be braking later than this also.

anyone else any thoughts?

[KarlosDaJackal]

Fuel will be 2x
Tires will be 3x

otherwise we could end up with 4 stops :eek:

[Sludgey]

Yes would be good to try some skins again. I think it would be quite easy for everyone to get Moatles' skins. I reckon most of us have the skinpack already.

I don't :down:

[Steve_300ZX]

I don't :down:


No probs :) Anyway the blue MC12 is just as quick as a skinned one :)

[Sidewinder16]

Ran with the MC12 yesterday offline as the server wasn't up at the time. With no setup it will make the time necessary for a two stopper but it is quite unstable to drive and the best I could manage was a 2:06.9.

I must say the track seems narrow but it has a nice flow to it.

[sege]

Had a practice on the server and managed a 2:01.7 in the S7.
....but checking the hotlaps section i notice that people from here are already well below 2 minutes!!!:cry:

Nice one Fane!!! :clap:

The Saleen is lovely round there, sooo stable after the wobbly Maser.
I'm really starting to like the Saleen for the first time.

[KarlosDaJackal]

The Saleen is lovely round there, sooo stable after the wobbly Maser.
I'm really starting to like the Saleen for the first time.

Mmmmh, guess i better do some laps then!

Damn the Wii and its activenesses. Think i'm going to try drive the Saleen with the default setup for this race, not even going to change the brake balance :eek:

[lowndes888]

Weird that no one drives the Viper, as it should have a chance here with the nature of the track, that having long straights for high speeds

[Slick1]

Oh yeah i got into the 2:02.911. To top that off my front aero was damaged quite noticeably so that says a lot that i set a faster time than before with a damaged car :D

[lowndes888]

Oh yeah i got into the 2:02.911. To top that off my front aero was damaged quite noticeably so that says a lot that i set a faster time than before with a damaged car :D

Yo slick join up on tha server;)

[SoundMan]

wow, i've been away for a little bit, gona join u guys online sometime this week and get some good practice going on...

[PeterRST]

Lister has it's economical advantage with fuel. So 1 stop with the Lister or two with the others, but we'll see.

Yesterday I got 13 1/2 laps (about 28 minutes) from 100 litres of fuel so the Lister will need 2 stops as well. You might be able to stop only once if you really try and drive very very economically, but that would cost you at least 2 or 3 secs per lap which in a 60 minute race won't pay out of course.

[lowndes888]

Yesterday I got 13 1/2 laps (about 28 minutes) from 100 litres of fuel so the Lister will need 2 stops as well. You might be able to stop only once if you really try and drive very very economically, but that would cost you at least 2 or 3 secs per lap which in a 60 minute race won't pay out of course.

We've got EzzA to do that. No one can understand how he can drive with a pitstop less AND keep within 1 second of ultimate pace:up:

[KarlosDaJackal]

I'm not enjoying this track too much in the S7.

I did a 2:05 something, but spotted Fernando doing a 2:01 before he left the server. Think i will have to mess up the setup, its just so bad on default, it snaps on the brakes, turns in quick and then understeers before you complete your turn-in, as soon as you get on the power it oversteers suddenly then decides it wants to understeer again, its entertaining. :rolleyes:

I'll have to dig out my barcelona setup or something similar.

[fane]

I'm not enjoying this track too much in the S7.

I did a 2:05 something, but spotted Fernando doing a 2:01 before he left the server. Think i will have to mess up the setup, its just so bad on default, it snaps on the brakes, turns in quick and then understeers before you complete your turn-in, as soon as you get on the power it oversteers suddenly then decides it wants to understeer again, its entertaining. :rolleyes:

I'll have to dig out my barcelona setup or something similar.

Later tonite i will post a setup for you to try.Im having a weird issue with my sound,sometimes it seems like im listening a black and decker and i cannot hear anything.I will try to fix that for later on:up:

[jayblue]

I'm not enjoying this track too much in the S7.

I did a 2:05 something, but spotted Fernando doing a 2:01 before he left the server. Think i will have to mess up the setup, its just so bad on default, it snaps on the brakes, turns in quick and then understeers before you complete your turn-in, as soon as you get on the power it oversteers suddenly then decides it wants to understeer again, its entertaining. :rolleyes:

I'll have to dig out my barcelona setup or something similar.

I have been playing with the Saleen and trying to tweak out some of those problems but with some success, increasing the coast setting seemed to help out with its tendancy to oversteer on turn in during some of the turns. Still struggle to keep it consistant a present as it is very easy to lose masses of time by any small mistake. Also quite easy to damage the car badly from a single off here, unlike Sepang with its huge run off area's.

[lowndes888]

I have been playing with the Saleen and trying to tweak out some of those problems but with some success, increasing the coast setting seemed to help out with its tendancy to oversteer on turn in during some of the turns. Still struggle to keep it consistant a present as it is very easy to lose masses of time by any small mistake. Also quite easy to damage the car badly from a single off here, unlike Sepang with its huge run off area's.

Yes but here the kerbs are way more friendlier:up:

[EzzA]

Yesterday I got 13 1/2 laps (about 28 minutes) from 100 litres of fuel so the Lister will need 2 stops as well. You might be able to stop only once if you really try and drive very very economically, but that would cost you at least 2 or 3 secs per lap which in a 60 minute race won't pay out of course.

Yes doing a 1 stopper in the lister is definitely possible but I don't think its worth it. Not only do you have to save heaps of fuel the tyres suck on the Lister, so you would be losing heaps of time compared to a 2 stopper.

[Berger R - 74]

Grrrrrrrrrrr,

i only can drive good with fast front cars, but this time i try to go new ways.
i decided to take the mc12 because he have the most hp(ps) and this could be good for this fast track.
had some troubles with this car. i could not drive exactly the line that i want on the straights, my wheel often get some punch a short time before a would brake and so i often come in the grass(out of the track). the 2. problem was that the back(rear) comes without warning in the middle of a corner if i do to much move with my wheel.
But i give the car i chance and after lots of changes in the setup and lots of practise the car was very good and fast to drive.
Make a 2.00.1 yesterday night in practise server and today in quali for a offline race i do 1.59.6 and i was happy because i know that time is not so much slower than fernando will do(he is always my time guy because he is always one of the fastest and so i can see is my time good or not)
but then the race: first 6 or 7 laps ok, but then the tyres gets more out from lap to lap and this car is EXTREM difficulty to drive with bad tyres. the biggest problem is that always in the corners the back comes(i think you say oversteer???)without warning, so i make lots of faults and i could not good handle the car on the track. This i not good for me and for the others drivers because i can not exatly drive i line and i possible can make an accident with another driver. So i decided to take the Lister. He is not so fast i think but easier to drive especialy with bad tyres. I am a little bit sad because i practise 2 days hard and have (i think so) a very good speed with mc12.
So now the practise starts again for me

see you in practise server and in road america.

(hope you understand this all but sometimes i dont know the right words for that that i would say and so my letter is so long for this short informations)

[hardjack79]

I'm on the reserve list, so maybe racing, maybe not, but I noticed that all you guys are talking about the Saleen, Maserati, et al, and no one is talking Ferarri and Lambo. Does the Lambo really suck? It's the only car I've been able to give any time to so far so I was thinking of racing it.

I tried the Saleen briefly, but couldn't find a setup that didn't give me some mix of oversteer on corner entry, understeer mid corner, and a peculiar random choice of the two on exit. :(

So.... is the Lambo not respected in these circles? Do I sound like a complete noob for even suggesting it?

[Steve_300ZX]

I'm on the reserve list, so maybe racing, maybe not, but I noticed that all you guys are talking about the Saleen, Maserati, et al, and no one is talking Ferarri and Lambo. Does the Lambo really suck? It's the only car I've been able to give any time to so far so I was thinking of racing it.

I tried the Saleen briefly, but couldn't find a setup that didn't give me some mix of oversteer on corner entry, understeer mid corner, and a peculiar random choice of the two on exit. :(

So.... is the Lambo not respected in these circles? Do I sound like a complete noob for even suggesting it?

The Lambo is not one of the cars listed for this race. See the 'Schedule for season 4'

[JPM]

Managed a 2:01.711 in the Saleen today... first chance I had to run. Love the track... used to race here in Skip Barber formula fords. I will try the Lister tonight, but I think I can get into the 2:00s without a problem. A couple laps I was way up, only to lose it in Canada.

I was going to try different teams for the Saleen, trying to figure out what tire is best here, but I started having connection problems. Finally gave up after 5 or 6 tries.

Are the Perellis best for the Saleen? Is there much difference.

Anyone have a decent Lister set-up to start from?

Some fast guys on the server today...

[sege]

I knda found the same with the MC12 Berger.
Initially it seemed much easy to drive than the Saleen, (wonderfull balance around this track, and the brakes & traction seem great too) but once I started tweaking things and pushing it a bit harder it seemed to get very tricky, a pronounced wobble across the back axle was very distracting leading to errors and offs.
Does anyone know how to get rid of the wobble? I downloaded Steve's replay of 2:01 or something and although your lines looked peachy the car looked very soft, rocking and rolling around!

BTW Berger: Steve's got a nice setup for the MC12 uploaded online in the Roadamerica folder if you want a second go of this car.

I'm using the Saleen and haven't bettered my times yet, I'd like to know what you quick guys can get out of it so I've got a target!
Anyone care to lay down a marker???

Edit: Ah! thanks JPM you got in there before id finished typing! thanks!

[sege]

I tried the Saleen briefly, but couldn't find a setup that didn't give me some mix of oversteer on corner entry, understeer mid corner, and a peculiar random choice of the two on exit. :(

..so you didn't like my set up then hardjack?:roflmao:

on tyres: Initially I thought Pirellis were the way to go on the Saleen, (supposedly a bit more grippy than the dunlops?) and thats' what I've been using, but they don't seem to be getting a lot of temperature into them so I might go back to dunlops and give them a try.

[Gaiajohan]

Don't know yet what I'll choose. Saleen or Lister.
I hate the Maserati, and the Viper isn't my choice. Corvette isn't exciting enough/.

[Slick1]

I'm going with saleen, i could pull of a one stop lol.:p

[Gaiajohan]

I'm going with saleen, i could pull of a one stop lol.:p

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/srsly-40514.jpg

Hmm, I'll take the Saleen too then..

[JPM]

There were some 2:00.xxx there tonight. Berger and Steve did them I think.

1:59s on the server I think are possible, especially during qually. And Jayblue will probably get into the 1:58s!:eek:

I was roasting my rears today in the Pirelli shod Saleen. Not trying to conserve exactly, but even with Meds after two or three hard laps without being careful with the throttle, I was over 200F.

Some keys to a good lap here are in the Carousel and Kink. Try to stay on the black line and get a good exit out of the Carousel... on my fastest laps I was above 120mph by the time the curbing ended. And try to go flat through the kink. If you can get through/exit there at more than 140mph, then you nailed that section. Of course you have to be good over the entire 4+ miles, but that back section is tricky to get fast.

[Berger R - 74]

Thanks you sege for the information with Steve`s setup, but my car was very good and very fast to drive. But if tyres are beginning to be not so good then i get the big problems. So i think it is better for me to do the race with a slower car (Lister) and more safety. Perhaps i can do i good quali position with mc12 but i will do to much faults (accidents) in the race with this car.

but if anyone can give me tipps what i can chance on the setup that this car is easier to drive with bad (out) tyres (the back comes without warning-oversteer suddently??-, the car is not stabil on the straights) in the race, i thank you a lot.

[Slick1]

JPM, way to shatter my hopes of not being completely slower than them, now i need to work harder :p

[sege]

Some keys to a good lap here are in the Carousel and Kink. Try to stay on the black line and get a good exit out of the Carousel... on my fastest laps I was above 120mph by the time the curbing ended. And try to go flat through the kink. If you can get through/exit there at more than 140mph, then you nailed that section. Of course you have to be good over the entire 4+ miles, but that back section is tricky to get fast.

That's the type of info i wanted! Cheers JPM:up:
only thing is....taking the kink flat?!:eek: could somtimes do it in the Maser but the Saleen is a bit slower to respond...gulp..will take my brave pills and lucky trousers out with me next time!:roflmao:

Berger: what about lowering the diff power setting to 0? sounds crazy but it works for me with taming the cars. I think its a bug in the physics but it works so what the hell.
I don't think it'll fix it completely, but it's a start!

[Slick1]

Yes if you can do that, you'll gain a good amount of time, i could blast through it with perfect entry but i don't know if i could take it flat out especially with the saleen

[sege]

actually those two corners are the tyre killers on this track. so it will be especially tricky to go through there flat while still making softs tyres last the distance.
But i'll give it a try!:D

[Berger R - 74]

hallo sege

thanks i already have the diff power to 0 (this helps a lot)

[sege]

hallo sege

thanks i already have the diff power to 0 (this helps a lot)

ok...with regards to the 1 problem: car diving around and off the track on the straights and under brakes? try more front toe in. like 1 or 2 degrees.

the 2 problem, mid corner back snapping around, try lowering rear spring rate and/or rear anti-roll bar. I think the MC12 is so responsive that those changes should provoke too much underseer but might help the snap oversteer problem.
If the oversteer is after you're back on the throttle then also try adding toe in at the rear. Or perhaps lowering the rear slow bump setting.
If the oversteer is while coasting try lowering the rear slow rebound setting.

You said you tried playing with the set up, so if you've already tried those things then I'm not too sure what else to try. sorry!:(

[hardjack79]

So.... is the Lambo not respected in these circles? Do I sound like a complete noob for even suggesting it?

The Lambo is not one of the cars listed for this race. See the 'Schedule for season 4'

Ha ha! Classic. What a dumbass.

Thanks Steve, I figured I was missing out on some info... I'll go have a look.

And Sege, I'm about to try your setup now. Thanks for that.

[JPM]

Kink is difficult to take flat.

You have to use the outside curb at turn in to get the car to rotate just a bit more that it will do it without. On a couple of fast laps...before I ruined them of course, I was exiting at 150mph... carrying all that speed into Canada... which explains why I didn't brake in time for the corner...

[KarlosDaJackal]

I got the s7 behaving finally, its all about using the fast and slow bump settings to control how the weight of the car moves around, only did a 2:03 but that was with full fuel and a hard front and rear tire. Even on a qual run i don't think i'm near a 2:01 yet.

[Sidewinder16]

I started doing setup on the server last night for the MC12. On race fuel the best I have managed thus far is a 2:04.4 but the car is quite stable to drive.

Berger try increasing the spring stiffness about 3 or 4 levels as it seems to be that with this car the weight is being transfered a bit too much making the car unstable.

[BuRnY]

I've done some practice laps this morning and did a 2.01.9xx in racetrim.

I've also done a practice race with the AI. The pack is really close together during the start. Accidents are going to happen if we start this way, so i think it's better if we have a rolling start. It's just a suggestion:headspin:

[fane]

For those who will go Saleen:Take the pirelli one.It handles well better with high tyre temp than the Dunlop one trust me:).I did a pre race with the AI cars with the Saleen,Lister and mc12 and my tyres were ok (full mediums) but i know online will be diferent.As for the carroussel,first laps will be like you enter the turn in 3rd,then 4th stay always on the outside(i know its dangerous).In the final part of the stint i advise u to stay always in 3rd because of the tyres.For me,ncreasing the front toe in negative help me in all cars,lets say -1.00 and arb front at 150.Give it a try.I dont know if i can make it for the race saturday,im going to make a full hardware upgrade and im just hope to finish in time for the race.If im not,i will pm Karlos so he can free my slot:up:

[GearChange]

For those who will go Saleen:Take the pirelli one.It handles well better with high tyre temp than the Dunlop one trust me:).I did a pre race with the AI cars with the Saleen,Lister and mc12 and my tyres were ok (full mediums) but i know online will be diferent.As for the carroussel,first laps will be like you enter the turn in 3rd,then 4th stay always on the outside(i know its dangerous).In the final part of the stint i advise u to stay always in 3rd because of the tyres.For me,ncreasing the front toe in negative help me in all cars,lets say -1.00 and arb front at 150.Give it a try.I dont know if i can make it for the race saturday,im going to make a full hardware upgrade and im just hope to finish in time for the race.If im not,i will pm Karlos so he can free my slot:up:


lol while the mrs is away a full hardware upgrade, what a great plan :up:

all in the same case i bet, so she doesnt notice :D

[JPM]

lol while the mrs is away a full hardware upgrade, what a great plan :up:

all in the same case i bet, so she doesnt notice :D

How else do you do it?:D Planning on a 8800 vid card next... my 7950 can't get the frame rates I want on my new 24" LCD.

[jhoeckman]

I'll be happy to race, that is.

I'm on the reserve list. Steve, Berger, JPM, no luck in getting my name on the active list.
Too bad.

CU all on saturday morning. No time to practise today and tomorrow.

[th3f411]

I changed to the saleen and it drives a lot better,im still at the 2:05-2:06 range.

I also have another problem, after a few laps on medium or soft tires my rear tires are monumentally high, 260 degrees..... but im also driving very hard. im worried about to much front break, its set to 54, any suggestions? and it was the uphill left-hander with the TOYOTA ssign

[JPM]

Do all your braking before you get under the sign and turn in right as you are going under. Slow in, fast out.

[th3f411]

ive been trying two things with that corner, one is what you suggested, and the other is brakeing lighty from halfwway up, and at the very begining of the corner, your way is a little faster, but i can use mine to pass in that corner if need be:p

still have the rear tire temp issue, can i safely use more front brake, and if so, how much

[oppis]

Have done my first lap's on this track :D today and i think ill go with the yellow saleen :). Pb. so far 2.04.2xx :o .Hope it will be better :p .I have been away on a trip to Sweden since monday so i have to do a lot of lap's on the track before the race :eek:

[th3f411]

I noticed in your sig oppis that you Mention Elwood Blues. Now it just so happens that he is on a radio station i listen to up here in Maine 102.1/105.3 The Shark. Do you Concur?

[fane]

Did a couple of laps yesterday evening with the mc12.My sound quality is almost zero but i hope to fix that tomorrow morning:p.For me,the best setup for the mc12 is Steve´s,with arb front set to 150 and rear wing set to 8 or 9.Thats how i managed to do 2 minutes flat and i think i could do a little better just have to focus more and have a proper sound.See ya tomorrow i wont be in the server today.

[pmcclarnon]

Started new chemo routine, all day Tuesdays, left me feeling very ill until today so haven't practiced at all. Still in 2.11's. Do you want me to drop out and let someone faster in?

[GearChange]

Started new chemo routine, all day Tuesdays, left me feeling very ill until today so haven't practiced at all. Still in 2.11's. Do you want me to drop out and let someone faster in?

it doesnt matter if your slow in this league so long as you try to race clean and you dont weave all over the track.
if other drivers are trying to lap you the best thing to do is hold your line and maybe ease off the throttle a little as they try to overtake you.

just have fun :D

[Berger R - 74]

good news for me

have the Engineers handbock in german!!!

chanced somethings in my setup and now i have a lots of times under 2.00
best was today 1.59.2 (in the hotlapsection) but a slow computer racer in sektion 2 was the problem if i get not under 1.59.
but with race setup i only can do middle to high 2.02 and the last 2 laps only 2.05 - 2.06 here is something wrong with my setup and i hope i can fix this.
now i must end - time to play football

see you tomorrow

[JPM]

Care to post your set-up?:rolleyes: I am strugling to lap under 2:02s in qualifying spec.

[the_wrexer]

Got a 2.11 race setup with Saleen on meds and full tanks late last night on the server..rather lonely but had the track all to myself he he :P. I need someone to watch me really see where im losing a bit of time. Car seems ok just a bit twitchy under braking.

[Gaiajohan]

I'm on quit okay consistent 2:03's in teh Saleen, only working on the racing setup. Corvette setup is about half a second slower. (I drove the DUnlop Saleen) Will try the Pirelli Saleen tomorrow. Absolutely don't like Bergers setup ofor the MC12. very unstable, swarving over the track. Respect you can be so fast with it.

Lister is too slow, Viper also, too bad in the corners Corvette drives easy, though not full throttle through somec orners what the Saleens do.

I think the Dunlop Saleens won't be very good, I drove at practise 4 laps, med front, hard rear, and rear was 95degrees.. So they'll burn very very very fast.

[pmcclarnon]

Got down to 2.08's so not as bad as I thought! See you all later.

[GearChange]

I am not really liking this track to much, which means this is the most unprepared for a race i have ever been, i have done less than 70 laps so far, where as i normally do anything up to 400 laps to practice.

i will be taking the mc12 as i managed a 2:02:01 with it last night online and i cant get any better than 205`s with all the other cars.

good luck all