Season 5 - Event 1 - Curitiba 25/08/2007 - Pre-Race discussion

[fane]

This is the first race for the season 5.I didnt knew the track so i was doing some laps today with the rsr.Here is a lap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSeqhLgLDnw

[KarlosDaJackal]

Nice lap, but maybe a little too tidy :p

What was the laptime?

[fane]

Yeah it wasn´t 100 % but i didn´t wanted to go anymore because i will make all the guide laps for this season so i have work to do:p
It was 1.17.xxx

[Slick1]

Thanks, the tracks looks annoying to me with those turns :p

[Jack Stand]

...:sherlock: where can I dn/ld the track??
Is it know by some other name???

[Jack Stand]

...............:o..I found it..............

just a reminder ---> I only LOOK smart !!!

[Jack Stand]

Whoa.......FPS don't seem to be one of this tracks' strong points.:(

[cecil-swain]

fps is decent, but up until the start line, the pit straight is white...it works anyway...

[hardjack79]

Whoa.......FPS don't seem to be one of this tracks' strong points.:(

Wow, that is strange. I ran this track on the server today (until the connection dropped AGAIN) and the fps were mighty compared to what I'm used to. My toy computer here usually gets 40-60 fps with min settings, but at this track I was 55-60 (Vsync at refresh of 60) all the way round. I'm running it in DX8. It looks beautiful too.

Of course the main problem is that on the nogrip server I still lose connection very frequently. Wasn't a problem on another server I tried.

PS @Slick1: "it looks annoying with all those turns" :roflmao: Were you hoping to be able to unplug your wheel for this race? :D

[Slick1]

I won't beable to race lol, going to my home country:D

[KarlosDaJackal]

Been on track today, representing "nogrip" in my BMW and managed a 1:16.1 on race fuel :eek:

I think thats good but if fanes messy hotlap (1:17) is anything to go by he will be doing 1:15 when he gets his lines sorted :p

Think of this track as goodwood with nicer weather and without the bugs :roflmao:

[Steve_300ZX]

Been on track today, representing "nogrip" in my BMW and managed a 1:16.1 on race fuel :eek:

I think thats good but if fanes messy hotlap (1:17) is anything to go by he will be doing 1:15 when he gets his lines sorted :p

Think of this track as goodwood with nicer weather and without the bugs :roflmao:

Had a go last night, first time on the track, done about 10 laps, managed a 1.16xxx but with light fuel load. Car was understeering really bad though. And does anyone know how to turn off the 'suggested' gear thing that pops up?

[cecil-swain]

i thought i would try it with keyboard, and i can honestly say that i will not be gracing the practice server. after the chicane, spun. thank god i got the wheel on ebay...

also, fps is good, but some parts of the track are a bit laggy.

[Gaiajohan]

Standard setup 911 with 50litres of fuel 1:18.2 After 4 laps :). Strange circuit, all around 36-39fps here, but sparkly around s/f. 8x AF 4xAA

[GUPSTER]

...... does anyone know how to turn off the 'suggested' gear thing that pops up?


turn off corner markers in your options :)

[fane]

There are 3 setups online already.One is from Digital for the beamer and another 2 of mine,for the beamer and the rsr.Its a challenging track with some secrets that u have to discover.The beamer is the fastest car with no surprise but the rsr does very well also.Didnt try the gtc yet:)

[Steve_300ZX]

turn off corner markers in your options :)

:thanks:

Sorry for appearing a div but there is nothing that says corner markers in options

[sege]

:thanks:

Sorry for appearing a div but there is nothing that says corner markers in options

That is bizarre Steve, has that only started happening at this track?
I think the corner markers toggle is under realism?.

I did a Q set up 1:16.2 yesterday, but my left rear tyres is overheating (medium) but not actually wearing quite as quick as the soft front.
makes the car tricky after a few laps.

The AI can qualify @ sub 1:10 from memory, so unless everyone is sandbagging again (not me!) we have all got a lot of owrk to do! Also none of us matched the AI (120%) at Goodwood either, (1:09's i think) is this down to the modded tracks? or are we getting slow!? lol.

I think the Fezza's will scare some of the Beemers here, but us in the RSR's may be playing catch up.

Also: are we straight lining the esses after the pit straight? there is a nice blue flat kerb which doesn't bump the car at all.
It felt pretty naughty while driving but watching my relpay it didn't look outrageous at all.
What's the verdict on that?

Another very nice track though!:up:

[ICKE]

Is this the topic where I can sign up as a reserve? If so, sign me up.;)

[Slick1]

No it is not, the sign up thread will be put up some other time, this is the pre race discussion, clearly stated by the title;)

[GearChange]

I havent set foot on this track yet but i have watched the ai go round. they do indeed ride right over that blue kerb and i dont think you could stop it really. ai at 120% must produce alien times :eek:
I set mine at 107% to get what i consider to be normal times from the ai.

ive yet to select my optional car choices for this season yet but im pretty sure my ngt1 will be the beemer and gt1 the lambo

[GUPSTER]

:thanks:

Sorry for appearing a div but there is nothing that says corner markers in options


think sege is right in the realism tab.... if not it's also in the .plr file

Corner Markers="0" // Show corner marker icons to indicate corner severity and suggested gear


driving aids section :)

[EzzA]

I'll be in the Peter Brock M3 for this race :)

[Steve_300ZX]

I'll be in the Peter Brock M3 for this race :)

I think Digital is already in that Ezz, if you want to choose another. Al started a thread with peoples choices for the season

[Steve_300ZX]

think sege is right in the realism tab.... if not it's also in the .plr file

Corner Markers="0" // Show corner marker icons to indicate corner severity and suggested gear


driving aids section :)

Thanks Gup, found it.

[EzzA]

I think Digital is already in that Ezz, if you want to choose another. Al started a thread with peoples choices for the season

Damn, he must have changed his mind...

I'm still using it though.. Peter Brock was an Australian Driving God!

It's the only skin I really care about for the season.

[KarlosDaJackal]

I have become best friends with MoTeC again for this season. I think I've managed to get my race set-up sorted in a couple of hours yesterday evening, although it took about 4 hours to create the motec project file that actually tells me something useful :D

[the_wrexer]

I don't think this track favours the Ferrari 360s well :(. Managed a 1.20 offline on race setup and i'm having problems trying to get the front end to dig into the corners. Suffering some oversteer on most corners but i think i just need to work on the setups more i think. Be on the practice server later on tonight and on Ventrilo. I'm in the lovely blue AF Corse Red Bull skin :)

[KarlosDaJackal]

I don't think this track favours the Ferrari 360s well :(. Managed a 1.20 offline on race setup and i'm having problems trying to get the front end to dig into the corners. Suffering some oversteer on most corners but i think i just need to work on the setups more i think. Be on the practice server later on tonight and on Ventrilo. I'm in the lovely blue AF Corse Red Bull skin :)

I don't think you should mess with the setup at all. This track is a bit technical in that you have to deal with corners as groups, and sometimes compromise your line in the first turn to get a better line for the 2nd turn. Stick with the Default setup (including tyres and brake balance) and you should be able to do 17.xxx when you've got the line right.

Once you've got the line sorted you will probably find that you have too much rear down force to really push it, try loose a little rear wing and add a little caster.

[the_wrexer]

Thanks for the tip Karlos and it did help managed a 1.17.8 just using the default setup but just altered the brakes bias to be more front i tend to do that on all of the cars i use and lengthened the gears a bit.:up:

[KarlosDaJackal]

Thanks for the tip Karlos and it did help managed a 1.17.8 just using the default setup but just altered the brakes bias to be more front i tend to do that on all of the cars i use and lengthened the gears a bit.:up:

2.2 seconds faster not bad ;)

I'm scared if you feel the need to lengthen the gearbox. Mine is pretty close to stock and I'm hitting 266.4 kph on the straight with a few revs left in case I need to slipstream someone. Could probably break 270 with less fuel in the car.

[Slick1]

I think i could help though i can't race. The best time i managed was a 1:14.933 or something like that:). Only a few tweaks but it is all due to learning the track and it was done in the brock beemer :D

[KarlosDaJackal]

I think i could help though i can't race. The best time i managed was a 1:14.933 or something like that:). Only a few tweaks but it is all due to learning the track and it was done in the brock beemer :D

Was that on qualifying fuel and soft tires? Because I'm at 1:16.171 with race tires and fuel. I hope that is enough to explain the gap of 1.238 seconds :eek:

[Slick1]

Qualifying setup but i was running around 10 laps of fuel and it was offline so an increase in grip too. I expect to see 1:13s for practice times and quali times and for super aliens a 1:12:p

Is the server up today?

[KarlosDaJackal]

Qualifying setup but i was running around 10 laps of fuel and it was offline so an increase in grip too. I expect to see 1:13s for practice times and quali times and for super aliens a 1:12:p

Is the server up today?

Server will be in a few hours. Need to test the last update to the carpack.

I think your predictions are to ambitious. 1:14.5 might be my ultimate limit, but 1:15.0 would be more realistic. I don't see how someone could be more than a second much faster. Then again, these predictions are always way off the mark. Could be interesting to hear what others think the pole time might be.

Fernando, Ezza, Jayblue i'm looking at you ;)

[Slick1]

Well i know that qualifying times possibly can be 1:13s by the fastest guys which are steve, jayblue, ezza, fane and all them people and ace racer lol:p. When i said quali times i meant for the fast guys though i think you could pull it off too with a lot of practice lol.

And what do you mean you are looking at me? let's pretend i'm ignorant and i asking for an explanation lol.

[fane]

I can satisfy your curiosity Karlos.My best so far is a 1.14.6 with the beamer and 1.15.7 with the rsr.Not sandbagging now:D

[Slick1]

Jayblue is probably going to go beemer for this one i'm sure lol. That is only a theory though:p

[KarlosDaJackal]

I can satisfy your curiosity Karlos.My best so far is a 1.14.6 with the beamer and 1.15.7 with the rsr.Not sandbagging now:D


Well I'm usually 2 - 2.2 seconds behind your times, so I should be happy with just 1.5 behind! Yes I know its a short lap :slap:

Edit:
I just realise I printed out my sector times this morning, and I wrote under the lap "Target 1:14.5", now I must do some work and stop adding pages to my MoTeC project :)

[Slick1]

LOL, it's weird i can never drive as fast as all of you the first time i drive, but eventually i do become as fast though i do have to work on consistency. THis reminds me of goodwood but more technical and more passing oppurtunities along with it better looking lol.

[fane]

Slick you are forgeting some more guys.I think you will have a surprise this time.:roflmao:

[Slick1]

UHHHHH....ace racer...jhoeckman...fane...ezza...jay...steve...MC D...slownlow...oppis...me:p...digital...sidewinder and i can't think of anybody else...but those are the fast guys that i knw. Damn that is a lot of 1:13s, well expect 1:13s to be among the top 10 qualifiers karlos :D

[BuRnY]

I did some practice laps and my best time on default setup with the porsche is: 1:17.1xx.

I finally managed to get Motec working so i hope i can improve my lap times.:P

[jayblue]

I havent decided on a car yet but if anyone fancies doing 1:13 i'd be glad to learn from them at the moment. The track is short and relatively easy to set a good time on so i'm expecting a very close quali and race with little in it between everyone. There just dont seem to be many places to make up time here. In the little time i have spent practicing thus far the BMW is quickest but the RSR kinder to tires, lighter on fuel and suffers less understeer too. But for sure the BMW's should have the quali advantage.
Seriously i think a 1:14 will give a good grid slot, 1:13 will suprise me - maybe i just need more practice...

[Slick1]

You know, i can't interpret the motec to save my life, but i think i should get it working to improve my lap times as i'm sure the fast guys use it, do yall?

[jayblue]

I dont use motec slick - i tried it but i found more track time gained me a better laptime than crunching numbers. Some of its features are useful though like the way it puts together your perfect laptime. I'm sure if i understood it it would be very useful though.

[Slick1]

Well yes of course, if you had a pit crew and a mechanic he would be using it, the driver would be more on the track. I don't know how to use it all and it seems so complicated. The track time gains me great times.

What's this feature about, the part about putting together your 'perfect' laptime?

[Steve_300ZX]

I have tried twice to get my head around using Motec, but cannot even seem to find where to start, so I just get on track and try from there.

[fane]

I dont use the motec also.Never tryed either.For me a track is like a fps game map like css or quake.As better u know the map the better you are in that map.And then the car:its like the gun,some guys are good with the sniper,others with the machine gun.So what i mean is: practice the track,know its secrets,know your car and then the good lap time will come.To be honest with you,i used to pick a setup online and then tweak to my taste but now i start with the default and do the changes i need to adjust the car to the track and to my driving style.I guess thats called the motec old fashion way:D

[BuRnY]

I just did some laps and my lap time dropped fom 1.16:8xx to 1.18:3xx:eek: I've deleted my setup and i'm going to start all over again:P

[Slick1]

Beautiful words and fane a weird analogy:p

[hardjack79]

lol. Slick you said you're not a NY native, where are you from?

I haven't used Motec for a while, I've typically only used it to cure problems rather than improve laptimes (I'm not fast or consistent enough to need data help yet). I tried to fix the oscillations in the 360 down the straight at Magny Cours by changing the spring rates and damping, with no success whatsoever, which leads me to think that the GTR2 suspension physics is still not quite right (of course it is their model thats wrong, not me! ;)) unless it is undulations in the track, but I don't recall it happening to that extent with other cars. Wow, I just can't stay on topic today.

[Slick1]

I come from guyana located in south america. And yes the game is imperfect :D

Qualifying times will 1:13s, it is 3xfuel and 3xtyres right? That way i think all the cars must do 2 stop or in ezza's case a 1 stop lol:p

[McDanger]

No server up to practice on tonight...........*groan* :(

[KarlosDaJackal]

No server up to practice on tonight...........*groan* :(

Testing car pack updates

[jayblue]

I come from guyana located in south america. And yes the game is imperfect :D

Qualifying times will 1:13s, it is 3xfuel and 3xtyres right? That way i think all the cars must do 2 stop or in ezza's case a 1 stop lol:p

Its x2 fuel and tyres according to the schedule. Anyone who manages a 1:13 online deserves a :trophy: or im doing something seriously wrong!

[EzzA]

I use motec to help setup my car for each track. Some tracks it helps more than others.

I used to do a lot of practice - but I never got rewarded for the effort. Now I realise once I've done a certain amount of laps any extra gains I will make are tiny, sometimes I even get slower..

Also when tyres and fuel are on 3x (not enough of that this season :( ) strategy plays an important role and I seem to do ok when it comes to strategy.

[Gaiajohan]

Thios track isn't finished well. Can't get the fps higher than 25 at the main straight. It must be optimised. At standard tracks, and a lot of oher tracks I get around 50fps.

[fane]

Yes you are right Gaia,this track needs some improvements its not fps optimized.And yes Jay 1.13 seems too much optimistic,at least for me:) .As i said before the beamers will take the first places in grid but they have a problem.So i think that the rsr may have a chance here in a long run.I have not decided yet the car to go on i will be testing the gtc tomorrow and the rsr again

[GearChange]

Thios track isn't finished well. Can't get the fps higher than 25 at the main straight. It must be optimised. At standard tracks, and a lot of oher tracks I get around 50fps.

just keep lowering gaphics until your fps is ok

detail - min
shadows - off
aa - off
as - off
trackside characters - off
pitboard - off
even try low res textures
low
low
low until u get fps u want

[KarlosDaJackal]

1:15.241 in Free Practice 1 on a qualifying setup tonight :D, only 0.4 behind Fernando in that session with a similar number of laps.

I reckon Slicks 1:14.9 offline will be beaten by me online soon :p

[sege]

Yes you are right Gaia,this track needs some improvements its not fps optimized.And yes Jay 1.13 seems too much optimistic,at least for me:) .As i said before the beamers will take the first places in grid but they have a problem.So i think that the rsr may have a chance here in a long run.I have not decided yet the car to go on i will be testing the gtc tomorrow and the rsr again

Let us know what time you get out of it (RSR) after tomorrow's practice Fane!
(pretty please:roflmao:)

P.S No Sandbagging!:p

[Gaiajohan]

just keep lowering gaphics until your fps is ok

detail - min
shadows - off
aa - off
as - off
trackside characters - off
pitboard - off
even try low res textures
low
low
low until u get fps u want

Like I said there already, it didn't make any sense what I did. All the time at the straight it was 25fps. Anc oming out of the pits even became worse :(. That got even 7fps...

I got AA, AF, shadows done off Trackside characters is always off here, so that's not a thing. track detail low, dX8. That;s what i tried.

usually, I have 4xAA 8xAF, shadows medium, track detail high, dX9. And there was seriously no improvement...:( It's just my cpu, and that bad track.

[hardjack79]

This is so weird, all your fps problems. An average track for me runs at 40-60 fps I suppose, but at this one I get 55-60fps (vsync on @ 60hz) :confused: :up:

It looks nice too, even with fairly low detail settings. I use DX8, but also the XD overlay so that might override and put me into DX9, I'm not sure. (Does someone know about that?)

I use a Dell laptop, Core2 1.83GHz, 1Gb ram, ATI X1400 256mb (actually 128 on board), so hardly a cray.

Very peculiar that a step up for me is a step down for you guys.

[Gaiajohan]

This is so weird, all your fps problems. An average track for me runs at 40-60 fps I suppose, but at this one I get 55-60fps (vsync on @ 60hz) :confused: :up:

It looks nice too, even with fairly low detail settings. I use DX8, but also the XD overlay so that might override and put me into DX9, I'm not sure. (Does someone know about that?)

I use a Dell laptop, Core2 1.83GHz, 1Gb ram, ATI X1400 256mb (actually 128 on board), so hardly a cray.

Very peculiar that a step up for me is a step down for you guys.

Thanks, clearly it´s my processor :)
P4 2.6, 6600GT, 1.5GB

[GearChange]

Gaiajohan
have you tried bonnet view?

[GearChange]

im sure i saw oppis do a 114.4 on the server tonight

[Gaiajohan]

Gaiajohan
have you tried bonnet view?

That gave 6fps extra on the straight and about 11 on the other parts. Thanks. Got everything cranked up again btw.

Did a 116.2 now online. There's for sure a 115.0 in it I think. 911RSR

[the_wrexer]

a sec slower tonight online with the 360 1.18.9 in race setup. Still think i can go faster should be in th 1.16s hopefully by end of week. My setups online if anyone wants to use it for the 360 gtc. Glad you like it PeterRST L:)

[Slick1]

Karlos i can pull a 1:14, a fast one. Ok 1:13 does seem optimistic but it is still in the possibilty range and anyways if i could've practice enough i think i can come close or get a 1:13 lol.

[Sidewinder16]

I ran the 360GTC on the server last night managed a 1:16.5 although on my last setup run of the day I ran wide out of the last turn and lost 10 km/h all the way down the straight and that was on a faster lap too :(.

The car now is quite stable in sectors 1 and 2 but sector 3 is where the extra time will come from.

[sege]

After my second round of practice I got down to a 1:16.0xx in the RSR, it was a bit of a scrappy lap even going off slighty on the exit of the second to last (right hand sweeping) bend, but a slight off does bring a huge penalty here, time wise.

I can't do that consistently by any means! more like mid 16's, which I'm suprised as I managed that 1:16.2 after only perhaps two dozen laps, normally it takes me much longer to learn a track, so I assumed there were whole seconds to be gained after that, but now it looks like 16 flat is pretty much my optimum.
So also still don't understand how the AI can be doing 1:10's!? is that due to a fault in the AIW (whatever that is:p) of the track?:confused:

[fane]

Sege,i modified my rsr setup online ok? so give it a try its fernando_rsr.
Made a few laps today on the gtc and it was a nice surprise for me.This car has the best behaviour in that tight left,very stable:up:

[sege]

Sege,i modified my rsr setup online ok? so give it a try its fernando_rsr.
Made a few laps today on the gtc and it was a nice surprise for me.This car has the best behaviour in that tight left,very stable:up:

Nice one! thanks Fane:up:

[oppis]

im sure i saw oppis do a 114.4 on the server tonight
Sadly it wasn't me , it was slownlow but i did a 1.14.660 :D

[KarlosDaJackal]

Hmm 1:14.4xx :uhm:

Well it turns out on my fastest lap (1:15.2) that I lost 0.144 in turn 2. That still leaves me some way short.

But I've found a suspension and tire pressure issue in the MoTeC data for that lap. Which I think is worth another 0.250, and I've got one more idea with the dampers that hopefully will get me to a 1:14.6xx.

In conclusion, I will not be on poll :p unless everyone is sandbagging again :rolleyes:

[cecil-swain]

how do you get that MoTeC thing working? do you need to download anything for it?

[KarlosDaJackal]

how do you get that MoTeC thing working? do you need to download anything for it?

Use the search feature of the forum. Its been explained a 100 times in a hundred ways better than I could explain it to you. Basics are download motec (google it). Install motec. Edit you player.plr file, and learn how to use it :p

I work in data analysis and it took me months to finally get the hang of it :eek:

[cecil-swain]

sorry, karlos.
-
i'm 14...and if it took you months to work MoTeC out, what will it be like for me!? :confused::banghead::chair::saywhat:

[fane]

Got a nice surprise today.Got Jayblue practicing on the server and was nice talking to him.....about girls:D.Now seriously we were talking about the season5 and what it will be the saturday race.See ya later all on the server

[Gaiajohan]

Got my 911RSR setup uploaded for ya. 1:15.8 at the moment. This is the one with pirelli tyres.
Name: Gaiajohan 911RSR

[McDanger]

I tried the 911 first lastnight and lasted about 2 minutes,me and those things have just never gotten on well at all :p,so i went for the safety and old familiar option of the 360,still had this arse end instant swap round at that awkward left hander that keeps tightening,so i went to the beemer and found instant stability and happiness :D,finally got down to consistent low 1:15's and high 1:14's,best so far of 1:14.7xx .

[Gaiajohan]

You need to learn how to drive a 911.
Learn it with GTL! That 911 is sooo typical 911 :P. Compared to that, the 911's in GTR2 are easy, also the GT2.
They drive the same way, but 100times easier.

[KarlosDaJackal]

hopefully will get me to a 1:14.6xx.


Well it got me to a 1:14.719 in practice 1 :D

Edit:
And a 1:14.401 in practice 2 :D

[Ace_Racer]

I am going to be in the 911 for this race, just managed to get a 1:15.105 in practice 1. I am pretty sure i can go quicker. I have tried to drive that M3 but the 911 just suits me so much better.

[the_wrexer]

Just out of the 1.17s tonight but gone quicker by 2 secs from last night with a 1.18.2. Very happy with my setups so far. :)

[Slick1]

haha karlos, i'll crush your spirit tomorrow:p, if i had practice i would come beat you lol

[Ace_Racer]

Personally I think we are going to have to watch out for McDanger. That 1:14.1xx was an incredible lap. I would definitely be surprised if anyone goes much quicker than that, but it definitely is possible for someone to get into the 1:13.xxx's.

[Slick1]

I told you all 1:13 is going to be quali times, yall didn't listen lol:p

[GearChange]

I told you all 1:13 is going to be quali times, yall didn't listen lol:p


i can assure you my qualify time will be nowhere near into the 1.13`s :cry:

[jayblue]

I told you all 1:13 is going to be quali times, yall didn't listen lol:p

I cant wait to see this 1:13 lap someone is going to put down :eek: im well and truly in the 14's, nice lap mcdanger btw, wish i had seen it, sounds like i could have learned something from it :up:

[KarlosDaJackal]

Well in practice 2 I got the 14.401 on my first attempt, and after that it was easy to to 14.6. "IF" Quali 2 has anything like the same grip levels I think someone will just get a 13.9.

Qualifying and hot lapping is not my strong point and even i can do 14.4. No offence to McDanger but if he can do a 14.1 there has to be at least 1 guy here who can go a tenth faster :p

[Slick1]

Seee, i told yall, too bad i can't be that person to get in the 1:13s:p. I probably couldn't reach that far so easily anyways lol!

Jayblue i hope that you are practicing a lot lol. :p

[jayblue]

Seee, i told yall, too bad i can't be that person to get in the 1:13s:p. I probably couldn't reach that far so easily anyways lol!

Jayblue i hope that you are practicing a lot lol. :p

Hopefully ive got the day off tomorrow so i'm going to work on my setup then as i need to find more speed and balance with the car. So we will see, but at the moment it seems out of reach. Probably just need to do some more laps and work to understand how i can improve my lines.

[fane]

Yes Slick is right 1.13 will be possible.I never thought that could happen but if some can do 1.14.1 is practice one,sure he can improve in practice 2 and qualy:)

[McDanger]

That 1:14.1 was in practice2 fane,i put it down to the setup being made during practice2 the night before,when i joined the next night (lastnight) during practice1 it didnt feel great at all,so i waited it out to practice2 and it suddenly felt great again,but what i have made here is a 3 lap qualifier setup,as in,,,i have to gradually wind up the speed over 3 laps,its quite fun and satisfying to do,it really is a case of carrying corner speed from one turn onto the next,i also had another little dabble with the 911 lastnight using a slightly tweaked fernando setup and found it to be very driveable,so still a car choice decision for me :).

[dav_ral]

ive been on the server tonight, big thumbs up to McD, i think it was,for his setup, which i downloaded. Any hoo, managed to get my ttime down from a 1:18.5 to a 1:15.6 in the M3

Partially due to the setup, and the realisation that early breaking pays off round this place, most of the corner markers tell you to use the wrong gear, so they are now being ignored. lol :p

[hardjack79]

Another potentially dumb question. When I try to download setups from the "Online File" section in GTR2 it is excruciatingly slow. I'm talking a minute to move one click on the scroll bar. Is this a known bug? Am I doing something wrong? Are you guys just real patient?

I'd like to have a look at some of your setups for this track, but until I get this sorted that's not going to be possible.

[dav_ral]

sometimes that happened to me, my game would crash, then when i tried before, magically it worked. don't kno why it does tho

[Ace_Racer]

hardjack, it seems to me that when you try to use the arrows to scroll up and down that it thinks you are trying to get into a folder use the wheel on the mouse if you have it.

[hardjack79]

Thanks, I'll give that a go. Sounds promising. :up:

[the_wrexer]

Gone faster again tonight with a 1.17.6. qualy setup I wrung the neck of the 360 to get that time. :D. Did a litle race stint and found my laps times go from 1.18s to 1.19s not too upset about that either. Thanks for the tips McDanger :)

[Ace_Racer]

Well, I did some laps in quali 2 and it does not have the grip, unless you stay in the groove. I ended up putting up a 1:14.8 in practice 2 with the RSR, should have been a 14.5 but i lost that time in the last corner. I could only manage a 15.0 in quali 2, definitely can go quicker with more practice in that session. Had a good scrap with McDanger for the best sector times, and then a good little dice on track. This race is going to be fun!:D

[jayblue]

Worked through some of my old setups this morning and finally seem to have found a sweet spot with some tweaks to help my times. Still not 100% but getting there. With all this talk of laptimes i just remembered there is a race after quali lol. I guess practicing some overtakes might be a good idea.

[the_wrexer]

Me, McDanger, Slick and Ace Racer did that last night Jay good little slipstreamer track this. Alll comes down to who can brake later :)

[fane]

That 1:14.1 was in practice2 fane,i put it down to the setup being made during practice2 the night before,when i joined the next night (lastnight) during practice1 it didnt feel great at all,so i waited it out to practice2 and it suddenly felt great again,but what i have made here is a 3 lap qualifier setup,as in,,,i have to gradually wind up the speed over 3 laps,its quite fun and satisfying to do,it really is a case of carrying corner speed from one turn onto the next,i also had another little dabble with the 911 lastnight using a slightly tweaked fernando setup and found it to be very driveable,so still a car choice decision for me :).

Yes mate i know but i wasnt talking about you.I was talking about me:p.yesterday i did 1.14.106 in practice one after lunch alone in the server,then Oppis join and both tryed to reach the 13 second mark with no success.Btw i was with your beamer setup very nice one:up: but you will have the same problem again:the tyres:down: i saw karlos yesterday in a race setup doing some laps in the 16 second mark but i dont know for how long can he keep it like that.So i guess i will take another car for the race.I wanna go without having to look all the time at tyre temp and wear:(

[KarlosDaJackal]

Yes mate i know but i wasnt talking about you.I was talking about me:p.yesterday i did 1.14.106 in practice one after lunch alone in the server,then Oppis join and both tryed to reach the 13 second mark with no success.Btw i was with your beamer setup very nice one:up: but you will have the same problem again:the tyres:down: i saw karlos yesterday in a race setup doing some laps in the 16 second mark but i dont know for how long can he keep it like that.So i guess i will take another car for the race.I wanna go without having to look all the time at tyre temp and wear:(

I think I'll run out of fuel before I burn up the tires, but I've always been the fairly easy on the wheels :D

Even if it was dodgy on the tires, I'll risk it and go flat out for this race :eek:

[Slick1]

...and lose karlos:p This will make for a very interesting race cause these tyres burn up quickly and for some reason unlike other tracks.

[Ace_Racer]

Well today was an interesting practice, did a 23 lap run, if you ingnored the mistakes i was able to keep my time right around the 1:16 second mark. I still am working on my race setup. I am done with my qualifying setup for now at least may tweak it when I do some Qauli 2 practice on my LAN. In practice 2 I was able to go right out and set a 1:14.5xx and then backed it up a little bit ago later on in the session with a 1:14.522. See you all on the server on Friday!:D:up:

[the_wrexer]

Just went back on the server again with Kiristofer Neison to see if i can better my qualy time. Took a very low wing setting and got a MEGA time of 1.17.303. :D. 1.16s seems possible for me just got to find a little more speed.

[Ace_Racer]

way to go wrex, big improvement. You can get into the 16's.

[sege]

Ace, (without going back over this thread in case I've missed someone) it sounds like you'll be heading the RSR pack at this stage!
I haven't been practicing for a few days but i reckon I'll be lucky to dip into the high 15's so 14.5 is an awful long way off!!!

Good work, shame Curtiba isn't in the hotlaps section for people to upload, as I wouldn't mind a sneak preview of some of these laps prior to qualifying.:D

[Jack Stand]

I've been away with work this week so little or no time for practice...got out on the server last night for a minute and was my usual slowness...:17:6xx in the rsr with a conservative race setup...:confused:...I'll keep at it...I'm confident I'll find another second somewhere before the race.. my biggest concern is with the rear tires going away in an untimely fashion...well that and being as slow as a snail:rolleyes:

[jayblue]

As i cant race tommorow night (:cry:) i may aswell put my setup for the m3 in the online file for all who would like to have a go with it. I did a 1:13.2 offline with it :up: nearly down in the 12's eh slick :D its called m3 jayblue. Let me know what you think guys. I set it up to be quick through the higher speed section at the end of the lap, but sacrificed a little stability in the middle sector.

This will be a very close race, shame as i was looking forward to it too. Keep it clean! :p

[Geordie055]

Jayblue wrote

As i cant race tommorow night () i may aswell put my setup for the m3 in the online file for all who would like to have a go with it. I did a 1:13.2 offline with it nearly down in the 12's eh slick its called m3 jayblue. Let me know what you think guys. I set it up to be quick through the higher speed section at the end of the lap, but sacrificed a little stability in the middle sector.


Thanks for setup online, will try it out see how you do things :up:
But sorry to hear you can't race :eek: I think it will be close race, up for grabs now guys :roflmao:

[fane]

Your friends should married more times Jay,marriage is a good thing:D.Im sorry for you,i think that the race will be more open now.Thanks for the setup,its not usuall from you to do it and i hope that you will make more setups online for us to try,especially in new tracks that dont have online basic setups.Have a nice saturday and we will meet again for the next race.:up:

[Slick1]

LOL, cool, i'll go try that setup lol and yes you are close to that 1:12 jay, see yall, i told yall 1:13 is going to come to him and then he'll get a 1:12 lol, good work jay:up:

[Berger R - 74]

Hallo jayblue,

thank you for the online setup.
I have a question:
Is it possible to do some setup from quali and race from Season 4 online. I am very, extrem very interested to see how you have make you car setup last season. Perhaps (i hope) i can learn someting.
Ps. offline quali time with fane/my setup only best 1.14.1

[fane]

Well finally got into the bloody 1.13 mark.Im at the server again with Oppis.
It was with Mcdanger setup with little changes.I post online.Its called Bmw-testfane.1.13.800. i tryed your setup Jay but MC suits me better:p
Btw the time was made with no autoclutch

[Steve_300ZX]

Thanks for putting your setup online Jay :up:. I, for one, need all the help I can get (been spending most of my time all week decorating and doing stuff around the house). Tried several setups in the few laps I have managed to get in, but am struggling to get in the 1.15's consistently. Will try and have a go later and see if I can improve my times with it.

TBH, it is good to see when the fast guys, or the guys that can make good setups, put their setups online for all to try. I think it shows the spirit of a fun and friendly league.

[jayblue]

Hallo jayblue,

thank you for the online setup.
I have a question:
Is it possible to do some setup from quali and race from Season 4 online. I am very, extrem very interested to see how you have make you car setup last season. Perhaps (i hope) i can learn someting.
Ps. offline quali time with fane/my setup only best 1.14.1

My setup may not suit you but glad for you to try it. As regards last seasons setups i still have them all but i think you will find them all very close to the original's, generally i only spend a lot of time setting the car up when i feel i'm not reaching the full potential of the time i think is possible.

A good setup never seems to save me much time off my laptime's (maybe 0.3-0.5 max) in any of the cars really - except with the m3 which seems, for my driving style, to need a good setup every time i drive it :confused: The setup i used here was based loosely on the Suzuka fun race setup from last season with NAGP.

Have fun guys, i will be on the practice server more next week, had a busy week this week except thursday daytime but it was empty for most of that - i think everyone was at work lol!

[fane]

Setups are a strange thing.U all should try the default first.For example the default setup for the rsr in curitiba is very good already.And then,the driving styles count too much.Steve doesnt feel too quick with my setups but i like his.The only person that matches my preferences is Digital.I like his setups and,usually he likes mine.Watching some guys at practice server is more important sometimes because you can actually do something wrong.I was doing some corners in second gear and now im doing in 3rd.The time i gained was more than a good setup so try to follow some fast guy onboard and see what you are doing wrong.Btw good luck for all tomorrow and dont forget the rules,the first corner,the tyres and brakes cold etc etc.Dont forget to give a little gap to the car in front because of the lag.:)

[jayblue]

Just ran a mock quali session online and it will be very interesting to see how the race turns out, anything in the 14's seems to be a very good time and the top of the grid will be fighting over less than 0.1 of a second IMO. There seems to be a barrier at which only a perfect lap will be any faster, one tiny little mistake and the time always ends up the same. High 1:13's are definately do-able, but only on perfect laps. As ezza mentioned earlier the track changes a lot from session to session.

[sege]

Setups are a strange thing....


Regarding setups Fane, can I ask?
I tried your RSR setup, and one thing that impressed me the cars stability under braking, even when locking a wheel (or two lol!).
The only thing I saw that could have produced that compared to my set up was softer rear rebound settings, and possibly softer front bump.
Is that correct? If not what was your thinking around those two settings?

I know this is a very selfish & specific post but depending on Fane's response it might produce something useful to all us slow pokes!
I never seem to be able to brake as late or confidently as the speedys amoung us.

[fane]

Ok Sege so the stability over braking is due to having the brake bias set to the front mostly.I tryed run with lets say 52/48 but it wasn´t good so i think you should try 60/40 or even more:eek: About the coast,preload, i say that you can put coast to a higher value 65% and preload set to 3 or 4 and why? Because u can gain much time in that hard left if u brake in time and acelerate as soon as u can but the car has to go without spinning wheels.Power u can put to 10%.Now the arb thing.Thats the setup that cost me more time to find out.Mcdanger setup is at 90 in front for the beamer.I think that for the porcha the best is 110 and about 40 in the back.A little toe in in front/back,lets say -40 at front and +60 in the back.Give it a try.Ace racer has a nice setup for the rsr also he did a good time yesterday in the practice server.As for the suspension,stiffer settings are the best way,dont put numbers above 6 ok?

[sege]

ok great, thanks for the insight! Much appreciated mate :up:
Good to pick the brains of you guys sometimes!

[ICKE]

Have to practise soon. :)

Lets see what kind of lap times I can do, my goal for this first race is not to be last.

[ICKE]

First time for me in this track. Did a couple of laps and my time was 1:17:5xx, went out a bit in the last corner.

I expect to reach 1:15´s in the quali. :)

[sege]

Phew! finally broke the 16 second barrier: 15.6.
I'm happy with that, I didn't change anything in the set up at all! just took got on the loud pedal earlier in the hairpin, it opens up more than I first realised plus there's the super grippy mesh thing on the exit, for the super committed.....:roflmao:

[ICKE]

Jayblue, your setup is very nice!

I went from 1:17:5 to high 1:15´s right away.

I love how the car slides through the cornes in the midsection, especially Pinheirinho, it feels as if it is doing all the work for me. Cant really recommend it to people who have a different driving style, because errors do happen easily.

[jayblue]

Jayblue, your setup is very nice!

I went from 1:17:5 to high 1:15´s right away.

I love how the car slides through the cornes in the midsection, especially Pinheirinho, it feels as if it is doing all the work for me. Cant really recommend it to people who have a different driving style, because errors do happen easily.

Thanks glad you like it. I prefer the car loose in the higher speed stuff, but it is easy on worn tyres to spin so be careful and have a good race :up: