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Realistic works version o f the car as driven by Erik Carlsson and Gunnar Palm in the 1964 East African Safari.
Version 1.00 of "Saab 96 Sport" is uploaded. You can view the download page for it here (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=524)
Aha! Cant wait to try this one :)
body.tga seems to be missing. I downloaded 2x to be sure. Drives nice! :up:
Mudsnow wrote
body.tga seems to be missing.
Strange that. I have re-installed the original brown Saab and then the RTP file for the new Saab and everything turns up as it should.
Has anyone else had the same problem?
Kiplali
I only had time for a quick drive with bonnet view. Looked alright to me. Felt great too :)
Car is great :trophy: but it's way too "bouncy" for my taste-it's like that it's too narrow :confused: ....the space between left and right wheels so i'm jumping from one side to the other even i feel that suspension is working??
and one more question-why i don't have any steering when i get off the throttle-i go straight on :confused: :confused:
maybe this would be better to adress to TT but i don't know :cry:
maybe i have some corupted d/l or something :cry: :confused:
Never get off the throttle, just use the left foot break :)
Car is great :trophy: but it's way too "bouncy" for my taste-it's like that it's too narrow :confused: ....the space between left and right wheels so i'm jumping from one side to the other even i feel that suspension is working??
and one more question-why i don't have any steering when i get off the throttle-i go straight on :confused: :confused:
maybe this would be better to adress to TT but i don't know :cry:
maybe i have some corupted d/l or something :cry: :confused:
Great, I have not driven it yet, but after watching videos of these things that is exactly how the SAAB should behave. As far as I can tell, they looked lethal at high speed, but were tough and very fast in the right (brave) hands. Ollo, I am sure, is right about technique.
I have DL several times now and every time there is no body.tga in the rtp file. Everything else is fine. Very strange. :confused:
Could someone please export the body.tga and attach it here or PM it to me?
I have DL several times now and every time there is no body.tga in the rtp file. Everything else is fine. Very strange. :confused:
Could someone please export the body.tga and attach it here or PM it to me?
Do you have some addon car installed in there car_7 slot. Restore it to default and then install again, should work.
Never get off the throttle, just use the left foot break :)
ok-it seems that it's not the car-it's me :D
this is a first FWD what i did drive after a long time so i guess i forget to LFB becouse i don't do it with RWD :o
now i'm affraid that i suck with FWD more then with RWD..
but still that prob. is too much to bleame it on RFB :confused:
OK, here is the problem again. I am installing over the original file but,
there is no body.tga in the rtp file!
See!
Does no one else have this problem?
Please, please, please, could someone export it and attach it or PM it to me! Only takes a few seconds!
Please, please, please, could someone export it and attach it or PM it to me! Only takes a few seconds!
i don't know do i have a permission for doing this but :arrow: you got PM ;) :wave:
I have DL several times now and every time there is no body.tga in the rtp file. Everything else is fine. Very strange. :confused:
Could someone please export the body.tga and attach it here or PM it to me?
thats very odd, there is definitely a body.tga in the rtp file and it is impossible for you to get a different file from the server to the one I just downloaded
Thanks imagine! :woohoo:
And thanks Kiplali! Very nice car! :up:
Maybe it is another problem with my ISP or browser. :confused:
Apologies, I've been out all day reminiscing about Kenya!
Thanks Imagine, for sending Mudsnow the body tga. Glad problem is now resolved. :up:
Kiplali
Well,i really don't know how would MudSnow join our Blitz Rally competition without that :D
Hey, Im having a blast in Kenya - great car kip, Bond et all :up:
This is a a superb effort, I really like this little car. A great job with the sounds, it comes on pipe just like a stroker should and smooth as silk.
Faster than it feels too.
Sweden's snowy forests are now swathed in burnt two stroke oil and some of Kenya's local populace are a teeny bit high right now.
Out with the riffler files tomorrow and get those transfer ports cleaned up.
One tiny complaint - let's have some Dunlops on it, not those shoddy old BB branded tyres.
Yours respectfully
Roger Carlsson :trophy:
Thanks Roger.
Having seen your picture Roger, I think you need to gain a few pounds to resemble Erik! :D
Good point re tyres, will note for my next creation....its big, 285bhp... have to do some homework on what tyres they use in that country!
Kiplali
The sound gets better and better the more I drive this car. Top notch quality TC and Richard :up: Beautiful car and nice tricky physics :)
Thanks Roger.
Having seen your picture Roger, I think you need to gain a few pounds to resemble Erik! :D
Good point re tyres, will note for my next creation....its big, 285bhp... have to do some homework on what tyres they use in that country!
Kiplali
Hoosier? Firestone white wall? Am I getting close? :D
Well,i really don't know how would MudSnow join our Blitz Rally competition without that :D
I suppose I could've just sprayed a quick coat of primer over it. :P
WOW to the top 3! :trophy:
Very tight line!
Roger wrote
Hoosier? Firestone white wall? Am I getting close?
Yep :D
Kiplali
Great car Kiplali, looks good and drives well.
Thanks to your team. :wave:
Very nice done car, and the sound is really great. I'm nearly smelling the oil and benzin when watching replays. Great job for the physics, too!
Thanks Kiplali for the car, Gregory for the physics and all others that may be involved in the project!
Greetings,
Ralph.B :wave:
Hi. I just d/l this car but I'm getting same prob as mudsnow did, no "body.tga" and to make things even worse no sound files at all. The size of the file is correct so everything should be there but no. I tried d/l twice and I tried both to install direct and to just open the file in the bzf-manager but they're still missing. Any ideas why? :confused:
if you have put another addon car in that 'slot' in the game previously remove it by copying the original from the cd and then try again hicka
Thanks, worked out well :). Very nice car both to see and drive.
Was away on vacation to Thailand when the car released. Now its download and installed. The Saab is a joy to drive. Tricky and bumpy, but if you learn how to drive the Saab you will drive fast. Not the fastest top speed, but very high lowest speed make the car successful.
:up:
//TC
This car is great. Screenshot below me racing it.
This car is great. Screenshot below me racing it. Why do you keep posting pic. in action :wave: -it would be better for you to join in to our weekly challenge ;)
throstlethwaite
19 July 04, 21:08
I'm just writing to say how much i have been enjoying the Saab 2-stroke. I always admired these giant killers when i was a boy and ever since I started on RT last October I have been hoping someone would model it. Now they have and it is of course superb. The noise is lovely, but I wonder if some "bring, ding ding" on the overrun were possible? Also did the rally drivers use the free-wheel or not- I expect with less drag from the front wheels it would be less easy to get sideways (I have very little success with left-foot braking). Also isn't the engine a bit too powerful?
anyway, thank you very much Kiplali. (sorry this is long and rambling-the 1st time I have written to anything on the internet!)
Hi Guys
Many thanks for your kind comments, glad you like it. Apologies for not responding sooner, been busy on my next project a 1964 Ford Falcon.
Yes I agree that it would be great to have that bring ding ding sound on the overrun but unfortunately it would appear that you are very limited in what you can do with the sounds. Basically you get an idle and 3 or 4 other sounds. The sounds have to be recorded at a specific rpm otherwise you get a science fiction type sound. The Saab sounds were made from a small segment of a clip of actual cars. They were in fact made by my brother so the credit goes to him.
I am not sure about the freewheel, I'll see if I can find any info on that.
I obtained two pieces of information as to the power of the Safari Saabs. The first stated that the Safari Saab were savagely tuned to develope 87-90bhp at 6500rpm and and the second gave its power as 95bhp. I chose the latter figure. :wave:
Kiplali
Hi Guys
I am not sure about the freewheel, I'll see if I can find any info on that.
Kiplali
The driver can switch the freewheel on and off with a regulator on the inside over the brake pedal. (1964)
I think they have the freewheel off when they drive rally. They have no use for freewheel.
The freewheel is very good in normal driving, when you get use to it.
//TC
John_Schoen
24 July 04, 20:08
Found this on a Saab forum:The Saab freewheel originated out of necessity - Saab originally used two-stroke motors where the oil was mixed with the gas. If you were racing down a hill at high revs and let off the gas, there would be no lubrication and the engine would seize. Not good. The freewheel allowed the engine to go back to idle. When they went to the 4 stroke Ford motor they kept the freewheel, but did add a lock device to lock it out. It was available throughout the V4 era, and it was an option on the first few years of Saab 99s too.
It looks like we don't need the freewheel.:)
Found this on a Saab forum:The Saab freewheel originated out of necessity - Saab originally used two-stroke motors where the oil was mixed with the gas. If you were racing down a hill at high revs and let off the gas, there would be no lubrication and the engine would seize. Not good. The freewheel allowed the engine to go back to idle. When they went to the 4 stroke Ford motor they kept the freewheel, but did add a lock device to lock it out. It was available throughout the V4 era, and it was an option on the first few years of Saab 99s too.
It looks like we don't need the freewheel.:)
The reason with freewheel is from the begining that a 2-stroke engine dont feels so good if it runs on high rpm for a long time. So when you lift up your right foot on a down hill the engine can take a "brake" and rest, then it can run good again and do the work good.
The lock device for the freewheel is older then the V4. In my original Manual for a Saab96 from 1964 the say it exist. And if i remember right a friend to me have a Saab96 from 1962 ther the lock device was on the right side of the engine very low under the hud. (it was more then 15 years ago)
With freewheel on you can save alot of petrol if you use it well.
//TC
John_Schoen
25 July 04, 20:10
I understood from that piece that the engine would seize due to lack of lubrication if people closed the throttle going downhill (without the freewheel). In that situation, the wheels turn the engine around faster than the fuel/oil mixture would allow it to go, the engine runs lean and seizes. That is my theory, but I could be wrong. :)
I understood from that piece that the engine would seize due to lack of lubrication if people closed the throttle going downhill (without the freewheel). In that situation, the wheels turn the engine around faster than the fuel/oil mixture would allow it to go, the engine runs lean and seizes. That is my theory, but I could be wrong. :)
You have right there, if you dont push the throttle down, the engine get to low of oil. And no engine feels well of that.
//TC
yassine
15 December 04, 20:57
I THINK ME: IT'S FANTASTIC AND I NO ADD ANYTHINGS.and it's the first 2tempsin rally trophy.and I have got a ideea for SAAB 96 SPORT remplaces SAAB 96 V4 in results,records...if I can modifi it.
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YOU CAN USE EVERYTHINGS EXCEPT BRAKES...
Roger
15 December 04, 21:02
Hi, Yassine - please read this before modifying anyone else's work.
http://forum.nogripracing.com/viewtopic.php?t=1789
Merci :wave:
Joyeux Noel...
Manalive
5 November 07, 14:28
I realise that this is an ancient topic. But I just came across it, and HAD to add my tuppence-worth about the freewheel:
(1) unlike the standard 2-stroke 96, the Sport had a separate lubrication system. So, it was still lubricated on the overrun, so the freewheel wasn't necessary to protect the engine.
(2) nonetheless, the freewheel WAS used on rallies! It enabled fast clutchless block downshifts while left-foot-braking. So, no lift-off oversteer - it was all done with the brakes, and to hell with driveshaft life expectancy, I guess.
I recently bought one. Lovely :D Now, I'm going to get Rally Trophy, just so I can try pushing the Sport without any danger of major repairs or insurance claims...
e-lindman
27 December 07, 23:23
The driver can switch the freewheel on and off with a regulator on the inside over the brake pedal. (1964)
I think they have the freewheel off when they drive rally. They have no use for freewheel.
The freewheel is very good in normal driving, when you get use to it.
//TC
Hi,
I can maybe clear some out about the freewheel, when driving this cars for real. (i have done it for several years in rallying and racing)
The most drivers of the two-strokers use the freewheel in rally (and in tarmac racing) Its perfect when you use left foot braking. You can also shift gear (down) without use the clutch, means that you can go harder into corners and easily use trailbraking. And as some of you allready mentioned its better to secure lubrcation in every situation.
But not every driver was use the freewheel. For example Mr EriK Carlsson did not, but his team mate at that time Carl-Magnus Skogh allways do.
For me, I will say if no freewhell- its not a two striker!
Ill have to test this car in virtual rally to.
slizendize
2 January 11, 11:12
Quite easy to drive and stunning handling. :thumbup:
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