Forza Motorsport 3

[zud the spud]

I have no time for public races in this game, maybe when only good people play it when the popularity dies a bit more, but I doubt i'll do much public racing.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

No, what I meant was you can copy the half you want to mirror from the top onto the one side and then mirror it, you get the perfect opposite you can just copy and paste to the top.

Yeah what about the mirrored lettering being backwards (see my edited post above)?

Good idea when you're only doing basic shapes but I've found it doesn't always work for me.

[Husky42]

So just bought this game, well traded some titles in for it, only a few races in but i rather like it. Had rented but not got far, question: Is there a way to make the steering not so sensitive?

My limited xp with F3 - (rental only) im just not sure how to make the car quit "wandering" but i do seem to love the game.

[freejrs]

So just bought this game, well traded some titles in for it, only a few races in but i rather like it. Had rented but not got far, question: Is there a way to make the steering not so sensitive?

My limited xp with F3 - (rental only) im just not sure how to make the car quit "wandering" but i do seem to love the game.

There is no sensitivity setting as far as I know but you can adjust the deadzones at the start and end of the thumbsticks travel. Maybe if you increase the deadzone at the start you will get rid of the wandering.

[random1self]

thats one of the problems i had with my old controller. what would happen is i would put in a small input on the thumb stick and it jerk back in the opposite direction just as far as i had i had input to the other direction.

[Husky42]

As much as it pains me to say this.. I really really really like this game.

[markspeed]

So then the question for me quickly becomes, which is the better deal. The Splinter Cell Conviction bundle(if I can get a hold of it) with the two controllers, 250 gig harddrive, and buy Forza 3, and Halo ODST, or get the Halo/Forza bundle, buy an extra controller, and to heck with the extra 130 gig harddrive space?


Former?

Later?


I'm still leaning former....thoughts?

[Husky42]

So then the question for me quickly becomes, which is the better deal. The Splinter Cell Conviction bundle(if I can get a hold of it) with the two controllers, 250 gig harddrive, and buy Forza 3, and Halo ODST, or get the Halo/Forza bundle, buy an extra controller, and to heck with the extra 130 gig harddrive space?


Former?

Later?


I'm still leaning former....thoughts?

Well i heard conviction was kinda lame, but guess it depends on how much u like that game. I only have a 20gig HD and dont really use it.. but i dont also do a lot of dlc or games at the same time.

[zud the spud]

120GB is all you will ever need, to install a game on the hard drive uses 7GB or so. Demos are rarely over 2GB, unless you plan on installing every game you get then you will never run out of space.

ODST and Forza are worth the purchase, I'd hold out until there are some reviews flying around for Conviction before you spend the extra money.

[markspeed]

Now those are the kinds of thoughts I was hoping to hear. Not the oh, the bigger this is better. Or the faster that. I could get the Halo/Forza bundle and the accessory pack or whatever it's called. Controller, charger kit, HDMI cable and all for about 90 bucks. So a few pennies saved their perhaps. I'm not too sure, just weighing the pros and cons.

Thanks for the good thoughts fellas.

[Husky42]

My ex always said size didnt matter....:P

[markspeed]

So if I follow the recommendations, which have just about comvinced me, cause while I do believe you can never have too much of anything, including harddrive space. I believe Tim Allen, and TVR's motto's speak the truth, too much power is just barely enough, still there are always exceptions to any rule, of thumb or not.

However, I do kinda feel like I'm getting hosed a little bit by the bundle deals. So it does sound best to go with the Elite deal with two free games. And if I do so I guess I'm going to have to brush off my old Gran Turismo Dual Shock driving skills, which are of some note, as many at the late great gtttimes would contest. This is because I will not buy one of the lamely reviewed Xbox compatible wheels.

[zud the spud]

Microsoft just announced you can use flash drives for storage: http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/03/26/USB-Memory-Support-for-the-Xbox-360-coming-April-6th.aspx

I don't think you can install games to it, but it says "storing profiles, game saves, demos and more." so you can save some decent HDD space with this, it's very welcome considering my 20GB is pretty tight on space right now.

[ALEXZANDER]

I think the next gen consoles should have at least 1TB on the base model units. and like 5TB on the high end model .And before someone says im a crazy nutcase that shouldnt be left unsupervised, i to believe that you cannot ever have too much HDD space. But I take it to the next level.

[markspeed]

I kinda doubt that. I imagine that the new consoles might be totally digital media machines. No harddisk media of any kind. They'll be a totally online design. With games by way of fee for service. Perhaps some kind of pay as you play setup. After what we've seen thus far. They aren't going to miss any opportunities to rake in a much money as possible. Prices might not be as high as they are now, but everything will cost. Even the in-game music will require a fee for service.


And I don't imagine the games will be as good on average. Look at what has happened the film industry. The gaming industry is following that track. More gimmicks, less substance. More dazzling graphics, less keep you interested content inbetween the cut scenes. If that sounds bleak to anyone. Tell it to your local theater/cinema.

[Prez2010]

Hay can we talk noon cars in forza like the R1 Aston Lola X class it's just silly
plus the SC430 in R2
the ACR Viper in R3

Basicly what I'm saying you can't race on line with anyone in those classes
because it's just silly they need to sort that out!


PS I use a ford feista in a class tag and it's pro like 8.9 lunch lol

[zud the spud]

1TB should be all you ever need, whats the capacity of a blu ray disc? 40GB? 1TB would be ample.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

1TB should be all you ever need, whats the capacity of a blu ray disc? 40GB? 1TB would be ample.

For the moment. File sizes, clock speeds, RAM requirements etc. are ever increasing though. Remember a certain William Gates saying the most RAM (or could have been hdd space) anyone would ever need would be something which at the time was seen as quite a lot but is now considered tiny and unusable, like 256MB? (could have been a famous misquote though) :lol:

Good to hear that game saves and whatnot can be moved to flashdrives, I'm just hoping it's not like readyboost where only certain USB sticks will work.

And I hope you can use them to run game saves from, not just store them, if so I will buying a separate 1-4 GB stick for each game I have, if it's possible to use multiple sticks for multiple games...

Anyhoo back to Forza 3...

...The Furai livery I've done is on my SF and so far only 1 person has bought it, despite putting up a WIP thread at the official Forza forums... :(

He did however send me a message saying it's the most detailed around, so many thanks to whoever that was for the kind words. :)

Hay can we talk noon cars in forza like the R1 Aston Lola X class it's just silly
plus the SC430 in R2
the ACR Viper in R3

Basicly what I'm saying you can't race on line with anyone in those classes
because it's just silly they need to sort that out!


You forgot the Mazda Lola R1 LMP car that can be detuned to R2... :thumbdown:

[Prez2010]

Yah sorry that's the worst thing ever! The first car I used in R2 I used with joy a Aston martin DBR9 and got smahed by the lola and SC I was like WTF
it's so silly now my best R2 is a DTM Audi what is going on T10!

[zud the spud]

The higher classes are all bugged out like that, below S class however there is great competition.

And Raven, I'm off to buy your Mazda livery right now :)

[ravenmorpheus2k]

The higher classes are all bugged out like that, below S class however there is great competition.

Yeah it's a shame T10 still haven't quite got it right...


And Raven, I'm off to buy your Mazda livery right now :)

Er thanks. To be honest I don't think that many people are interested in livery replicas, unless their McLaren, Brawn, Mercedes etc. Philistines.

I have a LMP on the AH as well, it's costs 2 million brand new and they're going for <10th of that. It's ridiculous, no-one can make any real serious money from the AH anymore.

Just a couple of things that T10 have yet to fix. Ho hum.

[Prez2010]

I'm havin great races in a class I love it
gota a 230mph focus XD

[zud the spud]

Raven, add "replica" as one of the keywords, it took me a while to find yours among everyone else's.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Raven, add "replica" as one of the keywords, it took me a while to find yours among everyone else's.

Er ok. You could have just used the search term 787B. Worked for me the last time I tried it. ;)

[freejrs]

Er ok. You could have just used the search term 787B. Worked for me the last time I tried it. ;)

I found it easy enough but failed to remember that I do not actually own the Furai yet......

I don't even have enough cash to buy your skin.:-D

If and when I get enough cash together expect another customer as your version is by far the best effort imo.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

I found it easy enough but failed to remember that I do not actually own the Furai yet......

Ah yes that doesn't help.



I don't even have enough cash to buy your skin.:-D


Nor does that. :lol:


If and when I get enough cash together expect another customer as your version is by far the best effort imo.

Yeah I looked on the storefronts and I wasn't entirely enthused or inspired by the 787B replica liveries on there...

[zud the spud]

Er ok. You could have just used the search term 787B. Worked for me the last time I tried it. ;)

I searched 787B and put replica in the keyword, went through all of them assuming yours would be there. I think there were 3 or 4 versions of it, all quite different. If you haven't already you want to add 2 keywords, because people are more likely to find it that way.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Ok well not to dispute that or anything but I just put in 787b in the keyword search (no car make/model filters) and it shows mine 3rd down the list of most recent. And even when I apply the filters for Mazda and Furai it still shows third down the list of most recent.

And now that I have added a description it comes up top of the list of most recent when I search for it using the keywords 787b replica.

However it is the third most expensive design with the 787b livery and the most expensive on a Furai as well...

...mind you it is more accurate than the one by CWO83, which is the second most expensive...

:)

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Ok so I'm getting bored of racing and want to do some more liveries, so I posted this over at the Forza forums - http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/3774320/ShowThread.aspx#3774320

Ok so I've been doing a couple of liveries recently and I think I've got quite reasonable at them...

My XBL gamertag is actually ravenmorpheus2k, check my SF for samples of the logos and the 2 liveries I've done, also bear in mind I did quite a few on FM2, which can be viewed here - http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/1921963.aspx

So I thought I'd take some requests, basically I'm bored and want something to paint.



If you have any replica race liveries you would like me to have a go at please post here.



I do have a few caveats (rules) though -



1. It has to be something that you don't see spammed all over the place, so for example, no F1 replicas (unless they're something that hasn't really been done).

2. I have to have the car already, so post what car you'd like it on and I'll check my garage, or if I have the cash for it I'll buy the car.

3. I mainly do stuff based on older cars, such as the Toyota 88C Minolta livery I've done (on a CCG) or the Mazda 787B on the Furai, so please bear that in mind, I can have a go at more recent liveries but I prefer the older ones.

4. No liveries that would look out of place on a car, i.e. Mercedes cars with a BMW livery (i.e. Merc with BMW logos all over it).

5. I will need source pics so any help you as the person requesting the livery can give in that area will be appreciated.


So with all that in mind make your requests and I'll see what I can do. Smile

So let me know if any of you have any requests. :)

[random1self]

You forgot the Mazda Lola R1 LMP car that can be detuned to R2... :thumbdown:

actually, when you do the engine swap, the stock engine drops it to r3 :P

[edit - raven - you should put your xbl tag in the search description so that even if we cant find a certain design, we can find your SF.]

[ravenmorpheus2k]

actually, when you do the engine swap, the stock engine drops it to r3 :P


Hmm does it now. Never noticed that. Sneaky. :sneaky2:

[edit - raven - you should put your xbl tag in the search description so that even if we cant find a certain design, we can find your SF.]

Yeah I think I might add my xbl tag (ravenmorpheus2k) as a keyword if people are really finding it that hard to find my 2 designs, the logos I've done and my SF.

[zud the spud]

I don't have a design for you right now, but when I think of something I'll post here. I don't know what is up with me but I can't paint as well in this game than Forza 2, I've only done 2 or 3 designs. So I've bought most of my own.

[zud the spud]

I remembered one that you could do - Enjuku 350z Pic 1 (http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/AACstyle/DSC04689.jpg) Pic 2 (http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/AACstyle/DSC04696.jpg) Pic 3 (http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/AACstyle/DSC04693.jpg)

I'm not that fussed about all of the logos, just the main ones. I'd pay 100k for it.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

I don't have a design for you right now, but when I think of something I'll post here. I don't know what is up with me but I can't paint as well in this game than Forza 2, I've only done 2 or 3 designs. So I've bought most of my own.

Hmm yeah I kind of know what you mean.


I remembered one that you could do - Enjuku 350z Pic 1 (http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/AACstyle/DSC04689.jpg) Pic 2 (http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/AACstyle/DSC04696.jpg) Pic 3 (http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/AACstyle/DSC04693.jpg)

I'm not that fussed about all of the logos, just the main ones. I'd pay 100k for it.

Been done. :lol:

Search on the storefronts for Nissan and keyword enjuku and there are a few of them, one looks very well done, it's by dat bwoi on the #46 Fairlady Z, price 10k. ;)

Oh btw I forgot to mention, I hate liveries like that one and many of the others on Japanese cars (mostly drift cars), purely because they have obsucre bits on them like the black stuff on the side of that one.

Oh and I haven't got around to getting carbon fibre done yet. Need to find the FM2 tutorial with pics so I can have a go, last time I tried it on the create vinyl group canvas it didn't go too well, think I need to be doing straight onto a car from scratch...

[zud the spud]

Oh well, I tried.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Yeah thanks. :)

I just found the CF guide again and did some CF. Looks good.

Tried to do an FXX with CF all over though, front bumper says no.

Worked well on the top of a Mini Cooper though. Mini Cooper with a CF roof anyone? :lol:

I swear T10 have done something silly to many of the models UVW mapping which makes them difficult to paint properly in certain areas. :?:

Finding liveries that I want to do, that haven't been done already and done well is actually quite difficult. I was going to do a classic Yellow/Black Renault 5 Turbo rally car livery, but it's been done a few times (shame about the black plastic bumpers not being paintable though). And it seems to me that painters have no life, either that or they've found way of importing vinyls from FM2, because they seem to be able to make liveries up in a few minutes with tons of logos on them!

[random1self]

i should resume work on my silk cut furai ... but ive never had the patience to make it to the sponsor stage :|

[random1self]

Silk Cut Mazda WIP (click me) (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/silkwip.jpg/)

why are long smooth, flowing double lines such a unnecessary pita again? i really wanted to trace the lines on the body work but that wasnt happening and i dont really feel like starting all over again though ill probably need to.

thanks for the mirror tip Zud the spud.

raven - you could try the all purple xjr-14 silk cut on the furai? (edit) or the funky stoner looking martini 917 on the #26 porsche 911 gt1? or champion audi r8 onto the audi r15? ive no clue what your car collection is?

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Looking good. Can't say I'm a great fan of the Silk Cut liveries, don't like the purple/yellow mix but yours is looking good. :thumbup:

And long smooth flowing double lines depends on what car you're painting, the Furai seems to be especially difficult to achieve this on.

I'm currently doing a 2001 Skoda Octavia WRC livery (Armin Schwartz, Monte Carlo Rally) on a VW Bora (Yeah I know, rule 4, but VW own Skoda and the Bora does look a little bit like the Octavia) as a request for a guy over at the Forza forums so that should keep me occupied this week.

Got any pics of the "funky stoner looking" Martini 917?

That might be a good one for me to do after the Skoda. Although last time I did a Martini livery was in FM2 on a 911 (or could have been a 959) and getting the Martini lines to curve was a pain in the ass...

[random1self]

"hippie" martini 917: click me (http://www.allsportauto.com/english/detailphoto.php3?zl_id=3108&zl_idMD=577)

:)

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Oh that one. The one that is Martini racing but has no Martini logos on it at all. :?: Damn hippies. :lol:

Think I'll pass on that one. Probably wouldn't work too well on the 911 GT1 anyway.

[zud the spud]

grinding away at the career, 65% complete now. I just did the Ford Focus championship, and instead of having a good race I went overkill, I bought a Focus RS, put a 500hp V8 in there with twin turbo's and 4WD. 0-60 in 3.2 seconds. It's a beast. I love being able to do crazy stuff like that.

[random1self]

raven - how about the 1998 versions of the GT-One? ive seen a few out there, but, none are accurate. im i the only one that sees the lizard on the engine cover? :?

[ravenmorpheus2k]

@Zud - that's nothing. I did the Svenska cup one in an A900 CCGT. :lol:

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Correction to the above (cos the edit function is not working on my BlackBerry) - I meant R2 CCGT. :P

[ALEXZANDER]

When I started over ( for the third time) a month ago, before I deleted my old save game, I put all the cars I wanted to keep up for auction. When I was doen with the intro race, I wen into AH on my new save and canceled all my auctions. had cars put back into garage. so I was lvl 1 with a audi R10. Used it in some of the beginner races. By the end of the second lap ,i usually had the whole field lapped. :)

[Roush9]

Kinda defeats the purpose of racing if you're gonna smoke the whole field.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Meh. The "series" like the Svenska cup (or whatever they call it) are mickey mouse nothing series that are only there to fill the game up and provide competitive racing early on in the career imo. Once you progress and get better cars they become rather pointless.

And I'd rather do 3 lap races in a CCGT and smoke the field than do 3 lap races in some crappy Swedish road car.

[zud the spud]

I've now done all of the endurance races, that's a big load off my back. 65.9% complete, I will get that 80 gamerscore if it's the last thing I do...

[Prez2010]

I'll give the GT-ONE a shot
I got the car now and done a 2:59 at the old lemans in my one lol yah I'll do the paint mate show me some pics

[BTCC Madman]

i havnt been playin forza latley but i am now gonna try nd complete this game if it kills me

[Pumpkin888]

i havnt been playin forza latley but i am now gonna try nd complete this game if it kills me

You should probably stop before that. :P

[zud the spud]

Somebody over at the Forza forums has claimed that they have been informed by a T10 employee of the April car pack:

1971 porsche 917k
1971 ferrari 512s coda lunga
1970 chaparral 2j (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/91-3.jpg)
2011 mercedes SLS AMG
2011 mclaren MP4-12c
2010 gumpert apollo
2010 vauxall insignia VXR
2009 holden HSV W427
2011 audi RS5
2010 BMW X6m

He says one of these won't be included.

I have no idea if this is genuine or not, just speculation. About half of them have been mentioned before though.

[random1self]

heh. i read the mclaren as an old F1 not their new super car.

[Prez2010]

Wow I want the 917!!!!!!!!!! I'm am going to mess people up with thing!

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Somebody over at the Forza forums has claimed that they have been informed by a T10 employee of the April car pack:

1971 porsche 917k
1971 ferrari 512s coda lunga
1970 chaparral 2j (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/91-3.jpg)
2011 mercedes SLS AMG
2011 mclaren MP4-12c
2010 gumpert apollo
2010 vauxall insignia VXR
2009 holden HSV W427
2011 audi RS5
2010 BMW X6m

He says one of these won't be included.

I have no idea if this is genuine or not, just speculation. About half of them have been mentioned before though.

Speculation.

However if they do have a 917 (and the Ferrari) it'll be yet another stupidly priced car. And where would they put the Chapparal? They'd have to make a new manufacturer for the menus.

[zud the spud]

The guy on the forum has said it was crap. April Fools apparently. I don't get it but w/e. The MP4-12c, the SLS AMG, the gumpert apollo, the HSV W427, the X6m, and the vauxall insignia VXR8 were leaked on the web auction house so will be coming at some point.

[ALEXZANDER]

Who whould ever want a X6M anyway? it is a pointless car in real life, why would anyone want it in a racing game?

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Because there is a 4x4 event and the Beemer is probably the best tool for the job (when it's released).

[kopyville]

Who whould ever want a X6M anyway? it is a pointless car in real life, why would anyone want it in a racing game?

I would want it in the game, you're not the only one playing the game here in the world, and the game is not meant to be made only for u.

and come on, I bet you already got your favorite car in forza, since you wouldnt buy a racing game with crap cars, and since you already got the game, stop complaining, if there are people who wanted the X6M, why do you got to complain when you've already got driveable cars in the game that you already race with? stick to your cars and stop being that paranoid. I already got the FXX in the game, and the 300c, thats all I really need, I dont care about the other cars that are coming as a DLC, I dont see why people are getting angry about it when they already paid for something that they like, if the game is so bad when it comes to car variation, why did you buy it? do you expect that T10 should listen to what "you" would like to drive? come on dude, knock it off

[nabdool]

something that id really like to see is the addition of new rims/wheels. so many cars and so little choice of wheels... sigh

[ALEXZANDER]

^ i agree, the game needs more wheels, also it would be cool if you could paint stock wheels, and if you could put other cars stock wheels on different cars, like you could in GT4.

[btcckid]

wow...............i just bought for someone unknown to me a ford rs200 S level 642 for 6,000...................... talk about bargin.......................... and it literally looked like it was put on as i found it..........

[zud the spud]

only one F class champinship left! I can finally get rid of the Twingo!

[ravenmorpheus2k]

I'm going column by column, that way I get a bit of variety rather than just wading through all the crap events all the time.

And I just bought myself a 2010 Mugen Honda Civic Type R, and it's doing 175, according to the readout on the dash...







...T10 obviously forgot to set it to change when people like us Brits are using MPH! :lol:

[markspeed]

So how far along is everybody? I'm driver level 3 I think, with two cars over Rep Level 2. My Fiat Abarth is now lookin like an out and out racecar. It's loaded with stickers which are good for about 80 horsepower I think(Lewis Hamilton eat your Mac ;-) ). My Scirocco is a nice little sleeper. Especially for a FWD. Perhaps a driveline swap will make it more fun to drive.

[freejrs]

Driver level 43 I think. But man does it get slow when you are above level 30. Just incredibly boring to have to do all the crappy races....

I just want to do up cars............TBH I don't really play this game anymore.;-)

[zud the spud]

over 68% of the event list completed now. I will finish it eventually...

[btcckid]

haha i saw that too, was rather confused why they kept it kph for us :(


I'm going column by column, that way I get a bit of variety rather than just wading through all the crap events all the time.

And I just bought myself a 2010 Mugen Honda Civic Type R, and it's doing 175, according to the readout on the dash...







...T10 obviously forgot to set it to change when people like us Brits are using MPH! :lol:

[markspeed]

Does any one else have the guilty pleasure of putting stickers on their cars? I'm completely absorbed into putting the stickers of each part I purchase somewhere on the car. It's not perfect cause some parts don't have a sticker. I'm constantly trying to find the most professional look for each cars decals and livery. It's oddly comforting and time consuming.

Does this mean I should start skinning in GTR2?

[zud the spud]

I used to be like that in Forza 2 but in Forza 3 I've been appreciating simplicity more.

[btcckid]

i decided to do a really shocking 3min job on my r33 skyline im hoping to have on "A" level as all my a's ae really bad..................... its literally my name on the side and a number just deliberatly stuck on poorly.... :)

[hoboholic]

Looks like I might be getting Forza 3 when I buy my new 360. Look forward to playing it a bit.
http://www.ebgames.com.au/xbox360-999130-Xbox-360-Elite--5-FREE-games-bundle-Xbox-360
Thats the bundle I should be getting...

[gavkiwi]

Looks like I might be getting Forza 3 when I buy my new 360. Look forward to playing it a bit.
http://www.ebgames.com.au/xbox360-999130-Xbox-360-Elite--5-FREE-games-bundle-Xbox-360
Thats the bundle I should be getting...

Nice hobo

check this out

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3538885/ShowThread.aspx

2010 V8 Supercars, some are pretty sweet

& this

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/3108572.aspx

1992 Winfield GTR

some nice Aussie stuff 8-)

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Nice. But...

...pretty much every single one of those cars is let down by one thing, the wheels.

If you notice the real life cars have colored wheel rims that are not metallic, such as the SBR Irwin car which has yellow rims. And unfortunately you don't seem to be able to paint the rims in FM3 with anything but metallic colors, I've been trying to get white rims and they just come out as silver. :(

Damn good liveries though, there are some really good painters out there. :thumbup:

Raven Morpheus goes off to buy a Toll HSV livery...

[ALEXZANDER]

yeah, forza needs like to have matte and non metallic wheels colors, like every other racign game that allows painting of rims. and you should be able to paint stock rims too.

[markspeed]

Looks like I might be getting Forza 3 when I buy my new 360. Look forward to playing it a bit.
http://www.ebgames.com.au/xbox360-999130-Xbox-360-Elite--5-FREE-games-bundle-Xbox-360
Thats the bundle I should be getting...



I got the bundle with Halo and Forza for 299.

[ALEXZANDER]

Lucky, when i got my elite, it came with Lego indina jones and kungfu panda, neither of which i have ever played. and it cost 399.

[zud the spud]

I got a good package deal, CoD 3, Gears of War and PGR3. great games.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

I got the bundle with Halo and Forza for 299.

Lucky, when i got my elite, it came with Lego indina jones and kungfu panda, neither of which i have ever played. and it cost 399.

I got a good package deal, CoD 3, Gears of War and PGR3. great games.

Oh woopdeedoo! I bought FM2 three times (totalling £90) because my 360 "lunched" the disc, and then I bought FM3 at full price also. My 360 cost me £250 and it's only the basic one! :P

Where's the middle finger smiley when you need one...

[ravenmorpheus2k]

New DLC announced - http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/roadandtrack/


Cars in the pack -

2010 VW Golf R
2009 Holden HSV w427
2010 Ford Taurus SHO
2010 Merc E63 AMG
2010 Renault Megane RS 250
2010 Vauxhall Insignia VXR
2010 Mini Coupe Concept
2010 Bentley Continental Supersports
2010 Mazda MX-5 Superlight
2010 Seat Leon Cupra R


Yawn....

[sam100255]

the mini coupe :puke: and the mx-5 isnt much better

why dont they put a mix of cars in not just 2010 mid to high performace, i mean i want an MGB GT :-P

[freejrs]

2010, 2010, 2010, 2010........BORING!!!!! Let's just hope GT5's rumoured summer release is acurate........

[btcckid]

oooo that ford toraus is sexy.............................................. ............


:( what a boring bunch of cars........... i just look forward to the touring DLC group coming soon.......rs500's cossies..mercs............ what they should be doing all the time.. groups like that......i wonder what the free sample would be for this 2010 set in a couple of days........

[Trebor901]

Well i should think the manufacturers would like their new cars promoted in this game and thats why they always put new cars in, but sometimes they do get boring i think every pack should be a mixture, one from the 70's, one from the eighties a couple from 90's and 00's

[Prez2010]

I like it but I like the small coupe cars like the Golf R and the Megane RS

And look out I'll be the one in the MX5 sl in A class tag ;P

[Trebor901]

i really cant see the point of putting the new face/arse lift SEAT Leon on their cos its exactly the same performance wise as the 2008 one

[DoMw94]

well im happy with the holden and the vauxhall. but the rest is, well as ravenmorpheus2k put it...

Yawn....

[random1self]

haha i saw that too, was rather confused why they kept it kph for us :(

i think it depends on the home of the car as opposed to where the user is. i know ive a couple of cars where the dash shows kph instead of mph.

[hoboholic]

Ok I now have Forza 3 and am installing disc 2.
Will report with my first impressions in a few hours. :up:

I don't currently have XBL set up so I'll be dealing with the default cars and tracks for the next week or so (until I can buy a USB WiFi connection for the xbox).

[hoboholic]

I did the first 3 series + 2 races of the world series and so far I like what I see. It starts out slow as you'd expect but I would imagine that once the fast cars start getting into your garage the ball will just roll faster and faster and the game will unfold quicker. Can't wait to get out of the hatchbacks :P

[zud the spud]

Hobo, if you set your 360 up near your computer you can connect it to xbox live through that instead of shelling out for a rip off wireless adapter. You need to mess with some network settings which I have forgotten how to do, I'm sure there are tutorials on the internet.

As for the game, it does take a while to pick up, but you get enough credits early on to get some of the cars you really want to drive.

[btcckid]

Hobo, if you set your 360 up near your computer you can connect it to xbox live through that instead of shelling out for a rip off wireless adapter. You need to mess with some network settings which I have forgotten how to do, I'm sure there are tutorials on the internet.

As for the game, it does take a while to pick up, but you get enough credits early on to get some of the cars you really want to drive.

thats how i have mine setup...sadly the wire goes through my mums room and my room....cant shut the doors totaly as itll break it..slightly happening now...but i got 15m cable for £3.....better then 40 for a wireless...

[DoMw94]

.....better then 40 for a wireless...

i got mine for 25 :-D i didn't really have an alternative though, i had to get the wireless adapter

[zud the spud]

I got to try out the game with my new home cinema system, the GT2 Jag sounds astonishing. The whole room was vibrating, so epic. Need other cars with epic engine sounds, anybody got any favourites?

[kopyville]

I got to try out the game with my new home cinema system, the GT2 Jag sounds astonishing. The whole room was vibrating, so epic. Need other cars with epic engine sounds, anybody got any favourites?

the murcielago LP 670-4 LP.. even got a louder sound than the carrera gt.. also try the australian touring cars or what they're called.. they got some sick sound

[ALEXZANDER]

I connect my 360 directly from my router. heres my setup.

[DoMw94]

I got to try out the game with my new home cinema system, the GT2 Jag sounds astonishing. The whole room was vibrating, so epic. Need other cars with epic engine sounds, anybody got any favourites?

based on when i heard the real thing last week, id say try the astom martin DB9 racecar

[Empty Box]

The DLC cars probably have some better sounds. But the Panoz LMP1 might be worth a go if they made it sound like it should. Been so long since I Forza'd I can't remember what sounds like what.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Hobo, if you set your 360 up near your computer you can connect it to xbox live through that instead of shelling out for a rip off wireless adapter. You need to mess with some network settings which I have forgotten how to do, I'm sure there are tutorials on the internet.

As for the game, it does take a while to pick up, but you get enough credits early on to get some of the cars you really want to drive.

Easy as pie.

Cat 5 patch cable. Plug it into a PC and the 360.

On your PC -

Set a manual IP address and subnet mask in your LAN connection adapter under the IPv4 properties.

I have the following -

IP 192.168.0.1
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0

Run a CMD window and type IPConfig (whilst connected to the web) and make a note of the DNS settings you have under the connection that is your internet connection (hopefully not your LAN port otherwise this probably won't work, should work OK with a wireless connection though).

Then put those into the DNS settings on the LAN connection.

On the 360 -

put in the following (IP address can be whatever you want)

IP 192.168.0.2
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (note that both the PC and the 360 have to be on the same subnet mask)
Gateway 192.168.0.1 (this is what you put in the LAN connection properties under IPv4 as the IP address)

DNS (these are what you grabbed from IPconfig and also put into the LAN connection properties under IPv4), which in my case is -

Preferred 149.254.192.126
Alternate 149.254.201.126

Last step is to setup ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) on your adaptor that is the internet connection (in my case a 3G dongle but in your case probably your wifi connection) so that the LAN can use the internet connection.

Then connect/disconnect from the web (or reboot the 360 and PC) and then connect to XBL and you should be good to go. ;)

[markspeed]

Oh woopdeedoo! I bought FM2 three times (totalling £90) because my 360 "lunched" the disc, and then I bought FM3 at full price also. My 360 cost me £250 and it's only the basic one! :P

Where's the middle finger smiley when you need one...


No, you're not British at all. http://www.xtremed63.com/GIFS/flipa.gif



I hope I don't receive a ban for that.

[markspeed]

I connect my 360 directly from my router. heres my setup.



Nice spagetti mess going on back there. Got some parmesan? ;-)

[hoboholic]

Ok now, after around 3 hours worth of play I'm up to driver level 5. Just won the Ford Focus 2009. Quite a nice car I must say...

[markspeed]

Ok now, after around 3 hours worth of play I'm up to driver level 5. Just won the Ford Focus 2009. Quite a nice car I must say...


It's nice as FWD cars go indeed. But wait till you put together some scratch and mod it. As a RWD it's quite fun, and tail happy. As an AWD it's a beast in grocery getters clothing. It eats up everything in the C class I've seen so far. And it looks like it'll beat up many in the B class too.

But apparantly the V-Dub Golf R32 seems to be the king of asskickery in the leaderboards up to the B class 500 level at almost all the tracks I've raced on.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

It's nice as FWD cars go indeed. But wait till you put together some scratch and mod it. As a RWD it's quite fun, and tail happy. As an AWD it's a beast in grocery getters clothing. It eats up everything in the C class I've seen so far. And it looks like it'll beat up many in the B class too.

But apparantly the V-Dub Golf R32 seems to be the king of asskickery in the leaderboards up to the B class 500 level at almost all the tracks I've raced on.

Yes it's odd how 1 car in each class dominates the leaderboards. :?:

No, you're not British at all. http://www.xtremed63.com/GIFS/flipa.gif



I hope I don't receive a ban for that.

Nope. I'm English. :P As for a ban. Who knows.

[zud the spud]

Yes it's odd how 1 car in each class dominates the leaderboards. :?:

I didn't think that was the case below S class? The top half of the classes all have one car but the bottom half seemed to be quite open.

[Prez2010]

yes i found A to be very wide like my Feista has like 9.0 Lunch lol so it rocks and they is so maney cars that are good at A

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Hmm yeah. But there does seem to be a preferred car in each class. From what I've noticed anyway. I definitely don't believe that under scrutiny the leaderboards are all that open, I bet if you go through them there are a core of cars that are used over and over again.

I could be wrong though. I often am...

[zud the spud]

No I agree, S class and above there is usually one car that dominates. I think this is because when you get over S class the upgrades are less common, whereas every car in A class can be fine tuned to exactly the limit of PI in R1,2,3, and S there are fewer cars that have fewer but bigger upgrades. Hence cars that can meet the exact PI tend to dominate, such as the Mazda Lola in R2. This coupled with the advantage AWD seems to have.

[markspeed]

No I agree, S class and above there is usually one car that dominates. I think this is because when you get over S class the upgrades are less common, whereas every car in A class can be fine tuned to exactly the limit of PI in R1,2,3, and S there are fewer cars that have fewer but bigger upgrades. Hence cars that can meet the exact PI tend to dominate, such as the Mazda Lola in R2. This coupled with the advantage AWD seems to have.


No doubt on that. I am certainly noticing that FWD and AWD cars have an advatage to them. So far all the FWD's I've driven, Fiesta, Focus, Scirocco have almost no torque steer, and very minimal understeer.

AWD's, atleast my AWD Focus seems to have no handling bias at all. Clear crisp turn in. Barely a hint of understeer. And exactly the right amount of throttle-on oversteer to be usefull. Whereas my RWD'ed Focus had major grip problems it shouldn't have had. At just around 300 horses, on street tires, or sports tires it should not have been so terribly tail happy. It was way more difficult to put the power down in the RWD focus, than it was in the FWD Focus with the same power. 300 horse FWDers often have trouble putting the power down as weight transfers rear. RWDers, even front engine ones don't have this problem so much. Of course the AWD focus shouldn't have a traction problem at launch, but it sure can in turns in the real world. I mean seriously, I've driven an 86 Trans Am(with a seriously modded lump) and a 89 Ford Mustang LX that consistently nailed 14 flats on stock tires in the quarter, both of which had more grip on road tires than the Focus RWD does on sport tires. So that's something of a balance issue, or an exaggeration issue I guess. And that would be understandable if this were Gran Turismo we were talking about. But I could've swore that Forza's staple was to be better at this than Polyphony. I guess not.


But so far as I can tell from the leaderboards the Golf R32 dominates the F, E, D and C classes. Everytime I look at the leadersboards after a hotlap, or race all I see is the Golf, with the occassional mention somewhere in the low top 20 and beyond. But the top ten is always so far as I recall all Golf R32. That car must have the magic formula of weight to power, grip to power, and drivetrain config, allowing for the most and best modding to fill up to the class spec.

[zud the spud]

I haven't looked at laptime leaderboards for ages, they are pretty redundant for most people. Last time I checked I was in the top 1% though which is always nice.

I look at the drift leaderboards every now and then to see how bad I really am, I'm in the top 3% at Fujimi Kaido with 130,000 or so. I watched the world number 1 and it is insane, he is sideways for the whole lap.

Anybody getting today's DLC? I'm prolly not. Nothing really grabs my attention, unlike the other packs.

[markspeed]

I haven't looked at laptime leaderboards for ages, they are pretty redundant for most people. Last time I checked I was in the top 1% though which is always nice.

I look at the drift leaderboards every now and then to see how bad I really am, I'm in the top 3% at Fujimi Kaido with 130,000 or so. I watched the world number 1 and it is insane, he is sideways for the whole lap.

Anybody getting today's DLC? I'm prolly not. Nothing really grabs my attention, unlike the other packs.


I haven't DL'd any of the DLC packs yet, except for the free trials.

Yeah I got in the top 1% in one of the Ford Mustang races. I was 3700th of 370,000 times set. Hahahaha. I felt triumphant for about 10 seconds or so. :laugh: Given the number of times set in most of these races and tracks, I think I'll be content with being in the top 20 percentile.

[Prez2010]

right DLC now guna try it out on a drag and track

[ravenmorpheus2k]

I haven't looked at laptime leaderboards for ages, they are pretty redundant for most people. Last time I checked I was in the top 1% though which is always nice.

I look at the drift leaderboards every now and then to see how bad I really am, I'm in the top 3% at Fujimi Kaido with 130,000 or so. I watched the world number 1 and it is insane, he is sideways for the whole lap.

Anybody getting today's DLC? I'm prolly not. Nothing really grabs my attention, unlike the other packs.

I'm in the top 10% at the Nords (or was it Le Sarthe, forget now). :lol:

But I can't drift. :(

As for the DLC, nope, can't be bothered.

[zud the spud]

I'm in the top 10% at the Nords (or was it Le Sarthe, forget now). :lol:

But I can't drift. :(

As for the DLC, nope, can't be bothered.

I think I'm in the top 1% round the nordschleife in B class, but I'm not sure on that.

[btcckid]

i dont think my laps count...there all shite :(

[zud the spud]

I was wrong, It's R2 that I'm in the top 1%. My B class time isn't even in the top 10%.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

i dont think my laps count...there all shite :(

Don't worry, neither do ours, there are so many drivers out there that even saying you're in the top 1% isn't all that impressive. :lol:

If Zud was to say he's in the top 100 at the Nords, that would be impressive. :)

[btcckid]

just to say......has anyone seen that new mini ........... ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww .............................what the hell have they done to a allready unnatractive car......just made it worse :/

[btcckid]

Don't worry, neither do ours, there are so many drivers out there that even saying you're in the top 1% isn't all that impressive. :lol:

If Zud was to say he's in the top 100 at the Nords, that would be impressive. ;)



ahhhhhh :P maybe im not so bad after all, just i keep getting told by my mate that im being beaten by his gf on leaderboards..surely thats saying something about me...;-)

[zud the spud]

Don't worry, neither do ours, there are so many drivers out there that even saying you're in the top 1% isn't all that impressive. :lol:

If Zud was to say he's in the top 100 at the Nords, that would be impressive. :)

I just checked, my R2 time is 597th putting me in the top 1%, It was my first clean lap so I'm pretty pleased with that. It was set using the Super GT Lexus also so I could prolly go faster in the Mazda-Lola.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

ahhhhhh :P maybe im not so bad after all, just i keep getting told by my mate that im being beaten by his gf on leaderboards..surely thats saying something about me...;-)

Her name's not Milka Duno is it. :lol: :P

I just checked, my R2 time is 597th putting me in the top 1%, It was my first clean lap so I'm pretty pleased with that. It was set using the Super GT Lexus also so I could prolly go faster in the Mazda-Lola.

Probably. But that's cheating. ;)

[hoboholic]

Anyone able to tell me where I can lower the brake sensitivity for my left trigger?
It seems like I'm slamming the brakes every time I even touch the trigger, where is the setting to soften it? Accelerator (RT) seems to be fine though, just the LT that is a little touchy.

[zud the spud]

If there isn't a sensitivity setting in the options, you could reduce the brake pressure on the setup. You do need race brakes to do that though.

[Lordsirion]

that was a question i wanted to ask actually, why is the lola dyson R1/R2 and R3, would it not piss on the oposition? in the lower classes anyways, being P2 car i carnt see it winning R15,R10 908 Acura and Aston, or is it set to last years P2 specs in which the penske porche was pritty quick

[zud the spud]

Yeah normally it's a low R1 class, I'm not sure if you can do some upgrades to make it better. What you can do is remove the normal engine and put in a 190 something hp engine to drop it a few classes. A few months ago I ran into a couple of people on multiplayer using it and my unrestricted Lexus Super GT was pretty evenly matched it seems, but then again I've not played much public multiplayer and what I have played they were terrible.

[Lordsirion]

190Hp lola coupe, sounds like a laugh, i may have a look later, see whats possible with it, i tend not to play MP, i sick of getting arse kicked hehe, i dont do much with setup so mostly all standard cars

[markspeed]

A Mazda Lola with the Lotus Elise lump hahahaha! It actually accellerate with exuberance, till it hits the aerodynamic brick wall at prolly about 120mph with that lump. You'd have to dump all the downforce in order to get some speed out of it. You could probably operate the throttle like an on/off switch for all the traction problems you wouldn't have. The tranny would probably flash a big neon sign on the dash that says [BORING] everytime you touch the throttle.

[zud the spud]

It's actually still pretty quick, it hits 190 iirc. That's why it's so broken.

[btcckid]

anyone on forza know a easy way to make flames for a car design plz, using the top gear 944 flame design, i have the easy bits done (number, reg and sideskirt chop off) but will need some help on the flames please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jPaYnaKVDk&feature=player_embedded#!


find it at 5.15 and theres the part im struggaling with :)

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Check out the official forza site. I recall an excellent flames tut (or two) for FM2 over there. The same principles will apply, except you can do most of it on a large scale in the design "pasteboard" section and then see how it looks on the car.

[zud the spud]

I'm waitng for more photos from the GT1 world championship to come out, then I'm painting the Piccione/Hirschi Aston. Someone has already done the other Hexis car, it looks amazing.

[btcckid]

ok well im trying the first part of the flame with those bendy style layers, this isnt turning out great but am begginer so it wont loook good but am going for it!

[btcckid]

ok well that failed....after 3 hours of designing just the orange part, i find out the white rubbing outs show and that my sclales are all wrong...........seems im not good at this at all.. :(

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Post some pics. :)

[btcckid]

http://i40.tinypic.com/5qjc0.jpg

ok heres it on the car, like i say, ive heard people say, u spend the time and ull get a good result but i spent all that time and it comes out like this... doesnt look good and it doesnt fit too well(ive tried large/small etc)...

if you want to maybe download the design too and have a look also on one of your cars?
my storefront is "killersawus666"

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Ah I see. Have you tried using the shapes that are on the "flames" tab? ;)

[btcckid]

i was going to but then couldnt find any simaler style so decided to start from scratch......i see that way wasnt the best :(

[ravenmorpheus2k]

I've just done a 1970 'Vette with a flame paint job, I'll post some pics in the morning (going to bed shortly) so you can see how it can look.

It was relatively simple to do as well. :)

In the meantime you might find this helpful - http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/197671.aspx

BTW - got any pics of the Top Gear car?

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Here we go, my attempt at a flame paintjob, simple, but looks good imo -

http://i39.tinypic.com/34htif8.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/14y3f9t.jpg

[btcckid]

ok these pictures should work hopefully, the video tutorial is mainly for the shading contrast to flame if im right in understanding?
the style of flames i havent seen anything simaler and dont wan to obviously go out and buy em on storefront but its looking that way :(

i like your flame set, how long did it take you ?

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Couple of hours. I see what you mean now. They may not be all that easy to do.

A couple of tips - don't use large shapes to make the whole thing at once, use various small shapes, particularly where curves are concerned. And use shapes to "cut into" other shapes to create the shape you want.

[btcckid]

thats what i did, cut some of the corners off with circles(for the curves) and others for parts sticking out slightly.......

and to ge the actual shape, i managed to make a vinyl piece slightly thing and curved but nothing flame like as a breif, more just awkward abstract design. do u reckon you could have ago see how it comes out for you with the top gear flame?, uve done more forza design so im sure youd do a better job but i want to know its possible with that one

[markspeed]

It's actually still pretty quick, it hits 190 iirc. That's why it's so broken.



I wonder how it pulls 190(mph correct?) with the downforce? Or is this another game that doesn't properly calculate the drag induced by DF? I would hope everyone had learned the lessen of Gran Turismo 3 by now. I just watched and episode of Attack of the Show, and during the Whips Rides and Hoons segment they mention the new Cop car made by Custom Carbon or some name like that, and they claim it does 200 mph with a 265hp and 400lbs/ft of torque, diesel engine which is impossible. An E type Jag can't go that fast and it's definitely got less drag. I think they heard 200 kph and misinterpreted. And that's probably what the Forza developers did by mistake. I mean a Lotus Elise is probably more slippery and it can only do what 140mph with it's 200 or so horsepower. I think all these racing games need more math. Cause there's stuff in Forza and many other games that just don't add up.

[zud the spud]

markspeed, the R2 version might not be the one with the lotus engine. It hits 190. The R3 probably doesn't go so fast. idk I don't use the R3 version.

Forza 3 models drag correctly. Maybe not 100% realistic, but if you crank up the wing you clearly go slower.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

thats what i did, cut some of the corners off with circles(for the curves) and others for parts sticking out slightly.......

and to ge the actual shape, i managed to make a vinyl piece slightly thing and curved but nothing flame like as a breif, more just awkward abstract design. do u reckon you could have ago see how it comes out for you with the top gear flame?, uve done more forza design so im sure youd do a better job but i want to know its possible with that one

Oh it's definitely possible. You just need to know what shapes to use, how to spin, skew and stretch them.

I would have a go at this and show you but I've got 2 liveries on the go at the moment for a couple of other people so I'm kinda stuck for spare time.

IF you can find some better side shots of the car then I may consider having a go when I've finished the two cars I'm working on at the moment (which I've not done any work on for 2 weeks...)

[btcckid]

Oh it's definitely possible. You just need to know what shapes to use, how to spin, skew and stretch them.

I would have a go at this and show you but I've got 2 liveries on the go at the moment for a couple of other people so I'm kinda stuck for spare time.

IF you can find some better side shots of the car then I may consider having a go when I've finished the two cars I'm working on at the moment (which I've not done any work on for 2 weeks...)

no worries mate, concerntrate on these others, i doubt therell be anything more greater then the video print screens sadly but if you do have anytime after, do give it a shot and then hopefully ill see where im going wrong....:thumbup:

ive started to use the size guide to help with getting thigns accurate but am still struggaling on getting 1 side same as other :(

[ALEXZANDER]

forza needs a drawign tool in the vynal making thing so you can make your own shapes.and writing and stuff.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

What like the incredibly hard to use paint tool in the latest Smackdown vs Raw game!?

No thanks.

Plenty of people do their own shapes and writing on Forza.

It's really not all that difficult once you know how (I'm still learning of course). It's just time consuming.

[ALEXZANDER]

I think it would be cool to just have a tool where you could just draw stuff directly onto the car, it would make doing your own tribals easy.

[zud the spud]

forza needs a drawign tool in the vynal making thing so you can make your own shapes.and writing and stuff.

the reason they only use shapes is so the data can be transmitted quickly for when you are playing online (It's already pretty impressive IMO considering how many trillions of trillions of designs there could be). If you put the ability to make your own shapes in there it would make this so much harder.

[markspeed]

markspeed, the R2 version might not be the one with the lotus engine. It hits 190. The R3 probably doesn't go so fast. idk I don't use the R3 version.

Forza 3 models drag correctly. Maybe not 100% realistic, but if you crank up the wing you clearly go slower.


Ok, but that's not telling me much, cause that's the case with Gran Turismo 3. So what you're saying is that Forza is no more adavanced than a 9 year old simcade? All of a sudden it doesn't sound so impressive does it? ;-)

[ravenmorpheus2k]

no worries mate, concerntrate on these others, i doubt therell be anything more greater then the video print screens sadly but if you do have anytime after, do give it a shot and then hopefully ill see where im going wrong....:thumbup:

ive started to use the size guide to help with getting thigns accurate but am still struggaling on getting 1 side same as other :(

Do it all on the right side, then go to the left side, press A and select "insert all from right side". ;)

BTW I've done my attempt at it, it's only taken me 90 minutes, give or take a few. I'll upload some pics later, having some web issues (like T-Mobile capping me so I can't use XBL between 16:00 and 00:00, unlimited broadband my ass!)

On a side note, I've just been driving the Mugen Civic 2010 that I've bought, and I noticed a nice, but pointless, but nice, touch that T10 have done, the clock on the dashboard displays whatever time your 360 thinks it is. :thumbup:

[btcckid]

Do it all on the right side, then go to the left side, press A and select "insert all from right side". ;)

BTW I've done my attempt at it, it's only taken me 90 minutes, give or take a few. I'll upload some pics later, having some web issues (like T-Mobile capping me so I can't use XBL between 16:00 and 00:00, unlimited broadband my ass!)

On a side note, I've just been driving the Mugen Civic 2010 that I've bought, and I noticed a nice, but pointless, but nice, touch that T10 have done, the clock on the dashboard displays whatever time your 360 thinks it is. :thumbup:


yea i tried that but then it puts them on the way of the side your bringing it from, not as simple as that as you then have to get the numbers right to get it the same as the other side, something which im learning!!!
wow u cant use xbox live aty times, never heard that one before but do look forward to the pics!!
and the mugen is relly ncie to drive lol

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Yeah it's t-mobile's "fair usage policy", if you exceed their "fair usage" limit, I.e. cap, on downloaded data, they throttle your connection so you can't download stuff and they block services such as XBL/Steam etc., either by way of actual blocking methods or just simply because the services cannot do what they need in terms of up/down-loads due to the throttling on the connection.

Problem is the app t-crap provide doesn't accurately record your usage and on a number of occasions, such as this, I've apparently gone over the limit, when I know full well I haven't. I suspect they do it on purpose to alleviate network congestion due to over-subscription of their network. :thumbdown:

Hence the reason I'm trying to get a fixed home line broadband package sorted...

Anyhoo the pics will have to wait until Saturday now.

As for the "insert all" method, try it without the numbers and see what happens with just basic shapes. ;)

[btcckid]

Yeah it's t-mobile's "fair usage policy", if you exceed their "fair usage" limit, I.e. cap, on downloaded data, they throttle your connection so you can't download stuff and they block services such as XBL/Steam etc., either by way of actual blocking methods or just simply because the services cannot do what they need in terms of up/down-loads due to the throttling on the connection.

Problem is the app t-crap provide doesn't accurately record your usage and on a number of occasions, such as this, I've apparently gone over the limit, when I know full well I haven't. I suspect they do it on purpose to alleviate network congestion due to over-subscription of their network. :thumbdown:

Hence the reason I'm trying to get a fixed home line broadband package sorted...

Anyhoo the pics will have to wait until Saturday now.

As for the "insert all" method, try it without the numbers and see what happens with just basic shapes. ;)

ahhh so bascially your paying for being taken off all the time.....not great :angry:

and on numbers i mean putting it in places using the number/degrees etc.. i know ive got to change the +/- etc..... but even when i reckon im there, im not...its just too confusing :(

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Ah well, practice makes perfect. ;)

The pics of what I've done are attached, I mainly used the middle pic you attached to your earlier post for reference, it's not 100% accurate, but then it did only take me 90 mins to do the other night.

[btcckid]

wow, thats much better then my attempt and you got more in the time i did!!!, did u create it using "create a vinyl design"? or was it directly on the 944 at the time of making it??? but even still, really nice job and now i can see it can be done much tidier then mine

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Straight on the 944. I only do logos and stuff like the numbers on this particular car in the "create a vinyl design" option.

[btcckid]

maybe thats where im goinf wrong slightly then... as ive noticed it with parts i create..wont let me change size/width when applying it to a car..

[DoMw94]

Anyone interested in getting a few supercars togother to take some pics and do a few laps together? Kinda like a Gumball rally or concourse type thing.

[MadNitroBooster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMS9Ldb7NcE&playnext_from=TL&videos=xJ5CwbPQQaw&feature=recentf
I didn't make these

[zud the spud]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMS9Ldb7NcE&playnext_from=TL&videos=xJ5CwbPQQaw&feature=recentf
I didn't make these

wtf? So they make a logo and slap it on a few cars and that gets on Machinima? Holy crap.

[MadNitroBooster]

wtf? So they make a logo and slap it on a few cars and that gets on Machinima? Holy crap.

yep

[zud the spud]

Next DLC pack will have ten new cars from ten new manufacturers, so far 2 have been revealed: Gumpert Apollo and Mosler MT900 S. IGN are revealing 2 a day here: http://uk.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/108/1087450p1.html it is going to be released next tuesday. I can tell already I will be buying this one.

[pitradio]

2010 SSC Ultimate Aero and 2010 Joss JT1 confirmed as well.

I'm hoping for Spyker..
The new spyshots are also known what cars they're.

[freejrs]

Recently started playing this game again as i found a way to get cash quickly and easily. Set up a private match on Benchmark Layout A with 7 AI drivers, make it as hard as possible with the difficulty and driver aids off, set it to 50 laps and R1 class only.

Now when you start don't follow the track just go as closely to the inside barrier as you can, avoiding the bollards and tyres.

50 laps takes about 16mins and you get 90K credits for doing it plus a shed load of XP. I prefer to run 20-30 lap races as it doesn't get so boring and there is less chance of getting disconnected with 3 laps to go!!

We got your monies!!!!!

Also I just bought the VIP car pack as I felt like throwing some money off a bridge but didn't have a bridge in walking distance. Got gifted a load of cars, mostly shit, sold a lot of them and I now have 1,250,000CR!!!!

Which won't last me very long........

What I don't get is some of the cars I was gifted I could sell back to the game for a decent amount of CR. Say the Top Secret Supra which I sold for 150,000 back to the game. Yet the Acura R1 class racer I can only sell it back for 100CR.....what is up with that???:?: Are Turn 10 totally retarded or what??

[zud the spud]

I guess it's laziness, but the very valuable cars (>1mil) they set the sale value to 100cr. The cheaper cars they don't seem to care about.

[freejrs]

Also I was just wondering what the hell happened to the car pack with all the old beasts in??

they announced the car list a while ago:

- 1986 Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS
- 1988 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R
- 1992 GMC Syclone
- 1971 AMC Javelin AMX
- 1984 BMW M635CSi
- 1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evo II
- 1977 Saab 99 Turbo
- 1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
- 1971 De Tomaso Pantera
- 1973 BMW 2002 Turbo
- 1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
- 1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
- 1982 DeLorean DMC-12
- 1983 Volvo 242 Group A

....that one??

I want the Mitsibushi Starion and I'm willing to pay cash!!!!!:twisted:

[zud the spud]

There were going to be two car packs released sponsored by Road and Track. They've released one and the other will come out eventually. They have been doing 1 a month, usually in the middle of the month.

[pitradio]

Yep, but that old cars pack is from Jalopnik. Jalopnik also already released one pack.

[zud the spud]

Yep, but that old cars pack is from Jalopnik. Jalopnik also already released one pack.

That's right, it's not road and track, my mistake.

[freejrs]

So will all those cars above be released in one pack then??:?:

[zud the spud]

I believe so.

[gavkiwi]

So will all those cars above be released in one pack then??:?:

the jalopnik set of 10 cars was slated for summer 2010, since we are now just into may, its difficult to say when it will be released :?: bet jun - aug , i dunno

[pitradio]

I thought it'd be 2 packs, 400cred each

[btcckid]

so that theres 14 cars..10 a time....surely that means 6 more for 2 packs........ and im sure i was given a link or told from someone there was a bonus secret car being made too???

[MadNitroBooster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO6Yg4ovJIM&feature=related
could be new game style

[zud the spud]

2010 Rossion Q1 (http://www.niot.net/blog-images/first-drive-rossion-q1-is-a-supercar-for-the-slightly-rich.jpg) and 2010 Spada Vetture Sport Codatronca TS (http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/spada-codatronca-ts-tutte-le-foto/codatronca1.jpg) confirmed. I'm liking this pack more and more.

I'm hoping for the Ascari.

[freejrs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO6Yg4ovJIM&feature=related
could be new game style

Fantastic!!!!:laugh::laugh: Poor little VW!:mrgreen:

[Prez2010]

that is so PRO i cant wait to get some mates and try that ! lol

[markspeed]

Has anyone else found that the Risi Competition Ferrari grips like Happy Gilmour on ice? I don't know what's wrong with the car, but a 550 horsepower mid-engine modern racecar like the Ferrari, as sorted as it is would have more grip. I mean I've got road cars that have more grip on the cobblestones of amalfi on stock tires than the Ferrari does on race tires at a road track like Sedona. It can't break with stability, it can turn in, or turn out. And it snaps from evil oversteer to snowplow understeer faster than it can shift from second to third gear.

Meanwhile, the Viper ACR sticks like Schumachers 2004 Ferrari. What gives? Balance issues? Or did the Forza guys just not get the physics sorted on this car?

[zud the spud]

The last 4 cars for Tuesday's car pack are:

- Spyker C8 Laviolette LM85
- Devon GTX
- Wiesmann MF5
- Radical SR8

The last 2 are still unconfirmed but the spy shots are pretty blatant.

I'm buying this pack straight away, I would love for them to do more of this. More manufacturers are always better.

[random1self]

Has anyone else found that the Risi Competition Ferrari grips like Happy Gilmour on ice? I don't know what's wrong with the car, but a 550 horsepower mid-engine modern racecar like the Ferrari, as sorted as it is would have more grip. I mean I've got road cars that have more grip on the cobblestones of amalfi on stock tires than the Ferrari does on race tires at a road track like Sedona. It can't break with stability, it can turn in, or turn out. And it snaps from evil oversteer to snowplow understeer faster than it can shift from second to third gear.

Meanwhile, the Viper ACR sticks like Schumachers 2004 Ferrari. What gives? Balance issues? Or did the Forza guys just not get the physics sorted on this car?

most R class cars need a really gentle/smooth approach for putting down power in the first 2 or 3 gears. the c6.rs are really bad, specially with cold tires. i do everything i can to not use 1st gear in r1.

the only exceptions i can think of off hand is the fxx and the r8 lms with awd swap.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Has anyone else found that the Risi Competition Ferrari grips like Happy Gilmour on ice? I don't know what's wrong with the car, but a 550 horsepower mid-engine modern racecar like the Ferrari, as sorted as it is would have more grip. I mean I've got road cars that have more grip on the cobblestones of amalfi on stock tires than the Ferrari does on race tires at a road track like Sedona. It can't break with stability, it can turn in, or turn out. And it snaps from evil oversteer to snowplow understeer faster than it can shift from second to third gear.

Meanwhile, the Viper ACR sticks like Schumachers 2004 Ferrari. What gives? Balance issues? Or did the Forza guys just not get the physics sorted on this car?

It's not the physics per se, just the stock tunes are crap on most of the race spec cars. I found the Ford GTR undrivable until I downloaded a tune for it.

My tip would be, if you haven't already, download the most downloaded (or highest rated) tune for the Risi F430.

Oh and just as an aside, did Turn 10 make Sedona the most difficult track ever known to man on purpose? It doesn't matter what car I'm in, they just don't drive as well as they do on other tracks, they have bags of understeer and the brakes lock so the car just goes off in a straight line (and that's with decent tunes that work great on all other tracks)!

[zud the spud]

I hate Sedona. It's a really frustrating track, there are no satisfying corners like there is at Mugello, Silverstone or Laguna.

[Roush9]

Does anyone know when they're releasing that carpack with the cosworth? I see they released one with the 2010 mini and what not, but I only have 720MSP left and they're 400 each.

[zud the spud]

it is coming, they haven't announced a date yet.

[Roush9]

my new drifter. Doesn't drift as well as I thought it would, gotta work on the set some more.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/MattLeach/th_370z1.jpg (http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/MattLeach/?action=view&current=370z1.jpg)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/MattLeach/th_370z2.jpg (http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/MattLeach/?action=view&current=370z2.jpg)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/MattLeach/th_370z3.jpg (http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/MattLeach/?action=view&current=370z3.jpg)

[zud the spud]

I tried drifting that thing, it had way too much grip for me. I'm still sticking with my Supra and my Scooby's.

[Roush9]

I got the set where I like it now, can hold it sideways with little effort. I also have the 70 Boss mustang z06 and 0-300Supra for drifting in my stable as well.

[markspeed]

It's not the physics per se, just the stock tunes are crap on most of the race spec cars. I found the Ford GTR undrivable until I downloaded a tune for it.

My tip would be, if you haven't already, download the most downloaded (or highest rated) tune for the Risi F430.

Oh and just as an aside, did Turn 10 make Sedona the most difficult track ever known to man on purpose? It doesn't matter what car I'm in, they just don't drive as well as they do on other tracks, they have bags of understeer and the brakes lock so the car just goes off in a straight line (and that's with decent tunes that work great on all other tracks)!



So... basically none of these cars have grip like their counterparts from GTR2 have? The ACR Viper has bucketloads of grip, yet the full fledged racecars do not. Lame. Really lame.

[redi]

So... basically none of these cars have grip like their counterparts from GTR2 have? The ACR Viper has bucketloads of grip, yet the full fledged racecars do not. Lame. Really lame.

It rather sounds like the Sedona track has less grip than the other tracks?

[zud the spud]

So... basically none of these cars have grip like their counterparts from GTR2 have? The ACR Viper has bucketloads of grip, yet the full fledged racecars do not. Lame. Really lame.

I just tried the ACR and the 430 out back to back at Laguna Seca, after 2 laps I was a second and a half off the fastest lap in last year's race in the 430, (I did a 1:25, fastest lap in the race was a 1:23.9) given some more setup time I could probably get closer. With the ACR I did a horrible lap with a standing start and beat the lap time listed on Wikipedia (I did a 1:33, Wikipedia says the 2008 ACR should do 1:35) so if you can take anything it's that the ACR isn't a realistic representation of real life.

I found the 430 gripped just fine if you didn't turn in violently under braking. In acceleration zones it gripped beautifully. I'm confident that if you were to use a steering wheel and drive smoother then it wouldn't slide so much. The ACR however is glued to the road, I guess it's more forgiveable to drive because it's a road car, with stiffer springs you would probably go faster but you couldn't drive it as easily.

I found adding some more rear camber and rear downforce helped out the Ferrari.

You shouldn't compare Forza to a pc simulation. It's obviously not on the same level in terms of realism. You should enjoy what's good about Forza, and I don't think that the physics is on that list.

[markspeed]

I just tried the ACR and the 430 out back to back at Laguna Seca, after 2 laps I was a second and a half off the fastest lap in last year's race in the 430, (I did a 1:25, fastest lap in the race was a 1:23.9) given some more setup time I could probably get closer. With the ACR I did a horrible lap with a standing start and beat the lap time listed on Wikipedia (I did a 1:33, Wikipedia says the 2008 ACR should do 1:35) so if you can take anything it's that the ACR isn't a realistic representation of real life.

I found the 430 gripped just fine if you didn't turn in violently under braking. In acceleration zones it gripped beautifully. I'm confident that if you were to use a steering wheel and drive smoother then it wouldn't slide so much. The ACR however is glued to the road, I guess it's more forgiveable to drive because it's a road car, with stiffer springs you would probably go faster but you couldn't drive it as easily.

I found adding some more rear camber and rear downforce helped out the Ferrari.

You shouldn't compare Forza to a pc simulation. It's obviously not on the same level in terms of realism. You should enjoy what's good about Forza, and I don't think that the physics is on that list.




Indeed I am enjoying Forza. Just not the faster cars. The faster the cars get the more the grip feels less like grip. I've tried that Ferrari at three tracks, and one of the C6 Vettes at five tracks. And short of trying some of the things you suggest these cars just don't grip like they should. It's just disappointing it all. I can't even roll the power on without wheelspin, and that's just not right. But, like you said this isn't GTR2. Which is ironic, that the Sim cars in GTR2 have more grip than than the same car in the Simcade. I guess they wanted to take a truly different direction than Gran Turismo.

[btcckid]

so anyone tried the new cars yet then??????? im downloading the sample one now..

[freejrs]

so anyone tried the new cars yet then??????? im downloading the sample one now..

I might buy the pack just for the Radical but the other cars don't really interest me. Wish you could just buy them individually.....;-)

[btcckid]

I might buy the pack just for the Radical but the other cars don't really interest me. Wish you could just buy them individually.....;-)


well after having a drive about with dom just now, looks like ill be buying this... the sample car looks like the captain scarlett car...and crazy cool.............. only the spyker i could live without but first carset i think ill be buying....
but i dont have any credits for any :( in forza terms ;)

[zud the spud]

car pack looks great, however I have 2 exams in just under 2 weeks time so I think I'll get it after them.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

well after having a drive about with dom just now, looks like ill be buying this... the sample car looks like the captain scarlett car...and crazy cool.............. only the spyker i could live without but first carset i think ill be buying....
but i dont have any credits for any :( in forza terms ;)

Hows the Top Gear 944 coming? ;)

I will be waiting until the weekend to dl this pack, probably early morning, less T-Mobile traffic then...

[btcckid]

Hows the Top Gear 944 coming? ;)

I will be waiting until the weekend to dl this pack, probably early morning, less T-Mobile traffic then...

o shoot, i knew there was something:ohmy: been learnign with really simple deisgns mostly...mostly simple shapes...nothing fnatastic.... trying to make my barracuda a horror car......although have nicked 2 designs off storefront......master level for me :(

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Mines been downloaded 5 times. Some people out there must like that car. :lol:

[btcckid]

haha, very lucky...i have elzilcho amount of downloads :( though i do have a download on my "L plate" ......;)

[zud the spud]

I put couple of vinyl groups up for free, the one was a DTM numberplate, last check it had over 100 dl's. People like free stuff.

[btcckid]

i only put everything at 1000......... surely thats not alot...says me who also goes for the free vinyls

[Prez2010]

Have a look at my storefront I got some great stuff and cheep for a short time so grab them lol
yah me I love free stuff lol

[Roush9]

They released the exotic car pack yesterday, pretty damned epic. The mosler, apollo, aero and radical all rape, especially the radical. Stock the aero has over 1200HP but I could only manage to get it up to 256mph, which is right around the same speed my 960HP or so vette can go.

[Prez2010]

i love the radical its so pro R2900 its sooooo good

[freejrs]

They released the exotic car pack yesterday, pretty damned epic. The mosler, apollo, aero and radical all rape, especially the radical. Stock the aero has over 1200HP but I could only manage to get it up to 256mph, which is right around the same speed my 960HP or so vette can go.

260mph is the best I managed with my Koieneggsegggg CCGT @ about 950bhp. My mission is to top 300mph......:twisted:.....anyone done it???

Is the Mulsanne even long enough??

[ALEXZANDER]

This game needs the chicaneless mulsanne like GT4 had. So you can really hit it at top speed.

[zud the spud]

It does have it.

[freejrs]

Indeed it does have the chicaneless Mulsanne but what it really needs is the GT4 Test Track.

[zud the spud]

There is the benchmark high speed ring for people who bought the game new, but I don't think you can take it all flat out at about 250 mph.

[freejrs]

Benchmarkring is no good. The corners are too sharp/not banked enough to test top speed. Mulsanne is the best option in the game.

[zud the spud]

Isn't the Mulsanne slightly up hill? Next time you try it go backwards down it.

[Prez2010]

Yah I got my supra the go 262mph up the hill so I will try down plus that bloody SSC Areo thing dose 257mph stock I need it lol

[freejrs]

Ah backwards and down the ever so slight incline!!! That should work.:-D

[pitradio]

I wish there'd be a drag strip of 10km long

[Roush9]

I've been using the green hell straight to get a top speed run in. It's more than long enough.

[markspeed]

Or Nardo the real top speed test track.

[freejrs]

I've been using the green hell straight to get a top speed run in. It's more than long enough.

Im looking for 300mph+ guy!!

I think I achieved 300mph or just below in GT4 but you had the luxury of NOS to help you along......

[Roush9]

I don't think it's possible to get up to 300mph. Me and someone on XBL had those P1 cars with rotary engines in them, maxed out, and we we're drafting and we still couldn't touch 300.

[markspeed]

I don't think it's possible to get up to 300mph. Me and someone on XBL had those P1 cars with rotary engines in them, maxed out, and we we're drafting and we still couldn't touch 300.



Maybe there isn't a long enough straight. Cause if the old Honda team could get their low drag grid spec meeting F1 to do 260, than one or two of these streamlined butterflies should be able to crack 300. If GT3's no NOS Suzuki Escudo can do it, than a hopped up Mac F1 should be able to also, atleast in these simcades that is.;-)





P.S. Roush9, BTW I have seen your ipod. There's this guy in the next chat room to the left, his ipad swallowed it! :o

[Roush9]

Forza3 isn't real life, derp. In theory, the aero should be able to get near 300mph. I don't even think the bugatti can get near 300.

[ALEXZANDER]

The GT4 test course wasnt big enough. you need a course that is shaped like the gT test course, but the straights are 20KM long, banked at 45 degrees, with end corners that are 10km long and banked at 60 degrees. and for aesthetics it should be textured in concrete instead of tarmac. high banked courses look better in concrete that they do in tarmac. they just do .

[zud the spud]

The GT4 test course wasnt big enough. you need a course that is shaped like the gT test course, but the straights are 20KM long, banked at 45 degrees, with end corners that are 10km long and banked at 60 degrees. and for aesthetics it should be textured in concrete instead of tarmac. high banked courses look better in concrete that they do in tarmac. they just do .

concrete gives you worse traction, and also isn't as smooth. When you are putting down hundreds of horsepower you want the smoothest surface possible.

Also, why would the straights need to be banked? It would just mean you would have to pay attention to where your car was heading even on the straight, which is something you don't want to do. Flat straights would be better.

[ALEXZANDER]

If i was makign my own racign game, i would have a track like i described, even as yuo pint out its flaws, i look at them as adding to the challenge of drivign on it. it wouldlnt be a borign oval, it would command the drivers undevided attention at all times. and i just think hauling bloody tits on a 45 deg. banked strait with the wouderful concrete sruface shimmerng in the sun with full bloom on, and a slightly blured horizon just plain awesome.

[zud the spud]

but a 60km oval? Seriously? Even at 450km/h that's 8 minutes a lap.

[ALEXZANDER]

i dotn mind a long lap,also, the track would be wide enough to run 10 cars wide. once you get a 800 car grid going it would seem a bit smaller. the whole idea of the track is it is so massive you can hit really high speeds, and it would be a spectacle to run 800 car grids, it would be really fun.

[freejrs]

Banked straights?? Are you shitting me?:laugh::laugh:

[markspeed]

You'd sacrifice a significant amount of speed on straights having to compensate for the banking. Going straight you would not have any help from centrifugal force. Cars would also need some degree of downforce on that kind of track. If it were more conventional you would only need zero life designs.

[ALEXZANDER]

Ok ok, i give in, if it means moar speed, no banking on straights.

[zud the spud]

I think the main problem with your idea is that cars like the Bugatti Veyron can only go flat out for about 10 minutes. For your car do more than 2 laps at a time you would need a huge fuel tank, and extremely strong tyres. Unless you used a slower car, but then what's the point in a 60 km oval?

[ravenmorpheus2k]

what's the point in a 60 km oval?

God knows. I don't think even Alexander has considered the ridiculousness of it.

Now unless my maths is faulty (which it possibly is because I'm tired) even at a constant speed of 300kph it would still take you 12 minutes to complete just 1 lap!

That's 12 minutes of sheer boredom! :thumbdown:

[btcckid]

God knows. I don't think even Alexander has considered the ridiculousness of it.

Now unless my maths is faulty (which it possibly is because I'm tired) even at a constant speed of 300kph it would still take you 12 minutes to complete just 1 lap!

That's 12 minutes of sheer boredom! :thumbdown:

especially if your loosing.....................

i got bored of the 5mins lap on gt4...that massive long oval...... so 3 times that in a rev reached sound for 15mins isnt gonna be fun.....

[Dan253]

not got forza myself or a 360 but christ what the hell were they thinking with a 60km oval, and like Mr.Kid rightly says the oval in gt4 was long enough so think how boring that is going to be, I mean what sort of driver is going to want to do that, even in a bloomin Veyron that is going to take minutes to drive and think of the pitstops needed, could they make it round? full throttle for 12 mins is a heck of a time and the fuel is going to be gone!

rant over

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Yeah to be fair my maths is slightly fault because 300kph is only 186ish mph.

And this 60k oval isn't actually in the game, it's just a fantasy Alexander has...

I also missed Zuds post which has it spot on - 8 minute laps, be it in kmh or mph.

[ALEXZANDER]

I just want a track that is awe inspiringly massive. thats all. a few of you have raised good points about its flaws, like the fact that running flatout sucks fuel. well there would be a pit lane on both sides of the track, so that would elimanate the possible of runnign dry mid lap. there would be alot of stratigy in runnign this course, in the areas of fuel and tyres. because the track is so big, and cars runnign fast, stoppign to pit could cost you alot of time and positions especally in races with 800-1000 car grids. the stragity and plannign would make or break your chances at placing well in the finish. the strategy would be alot of fun.

as for the issue of a boring lap. well if your runnign a 800-1000 car grid, chances are that there is always someone trying to pass you, defending you position from them would keep you occupied.

i know it all sounds ridiculous and over the top, but i think it would fun and entertaining, and that is what games are for. :)


I even came up with a name for my track.

Drehzahlregelung Rennstrecke or "speed loop race course"

[DoMw94]

...and the fuel is going to be gone!




no fuel in forza 3:wink:

[Roush9]

no fuel in forza 3:wink:

yeah there is.

[freejrs]

Lets just be thankful that we will never ever see a track like the one Alexzander describes in any game or sim ever. We will never see 800 car grids. We will never see banked straights. We will never see dual pits lane for refuelling every lap.

Oh and I though of another name for the "track".

Retardedmorondumbass Streke.

[markspeed]

especially if your loosing.....................

i got bored of the 5mins lap on gt4...that massive long oval...... so 3 times that in a rev reached sound for 15mins isnt gonna be fun.....



The worst was the Vitz race. 10 laps of 6.5 mile track at about what 140 miles an hour at best. I forget what the top speed was on that car but slow comes to mind. I actually started to fall asleep during the third lap. The developers at Polyphony really annoyed me often with the GT series. The overused so many tracks, than underused so many others. Forza has this problem too a bit. Some of these tracks just aren't used enough.


But what I do like are the Rally like tracks which are broken into stages. They could do well with much more of these for the next game. And make half of them dirt/gravel tracks.

[markspeed]

I achieved driver level 50 yesterday. Got my Total Team Peugeot 908. And I've got to say, visibility is quite bad out of this car. It's pretty difficult in several cars in this game because of how close the focal point is to the windshield. But in the 908 it's particularly bad. I lost sight of the apex and more going into every just about every turn at Catalunya. Not good. Hope they change this for Forza 4. I doubt a firmware update can fix this sort of problem. It would need a new disc.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

I just got the new DLC, it's got that 1200+HP car that is supposed to be quicker than the Veryon.

Can't say I'm all that impressed with the selection of cars, the Spyker looks butt ugly (although as a VIP I got one gifted), there's a Viper "in drag" and other cars I've never seen or want to drive, the radical might be worth a look at though, if it's competitive in R2...

[ALEXZANDER]

I achieved driver level 50 yesterday. Got my Total Team Peugeot 908. And I've got to say, visibility is quite bad out of this car. It's pretty difficult in several cars in this game because of how close the focal point is to the windshield. But in the 908 it's particularly bad. I lost sight of the apex and more going into every just about every turn at Catalunya. Not good. Hope they change this for Forza 4. I doubt a firmware update can fix this sort of problem. It would need a new disc.

the 908 and the mazda are bad, i prefer the R10, as it is open cockpit. :thumbup:

[Roush9]

I just got the new DLC, it's got that 1200+HP car that is supposed to be quicker than the Veryon.

Can't say I'm all that impressed with the selection of cars, the Spyker looks butt ugly (although as a VIP I got one gifted), there's a Viper "in drag" and other cars I've never seen or want to drive, the radical might be worth a look at though, if it's competitive in R2...
It destroys everything in R2. And the Apollo and Mosler are kick ass as well.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

It destroys everything in R2. And the Apollo and Mosler are kick ass as well.

More good balancing from T10 then, does it destroy the Mazda Lola LMP as well? :rolleyes:

I noticed something odd on the storefronts today...

...I was searching for Acura NSX '05 tunes and paints and I noticed there is an Acura NSX '05+ that only starts at R3 class, but looking in the car showrooms I cannot see such a car for Acura.

It's also listed on the AH.

I wonder if an upcoming DLC has another Acura NSX in it?

[Roush9]

More good balancing from T10 then, does it destroy the Mazda Lola LMP as well? :rolleyes:



The SR8 is a beast of a machine. Acceleration and downforce is where it destroys the rest of the R2 class, on tracks that have long straights the top 2-3 can hang. In one race, can't remember the track, it actually took me 4(7lap race) laps to pass the top 3.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

The SR8 is a beast of a machine. Acceleration and downforce is where it destroys the rest of the R2 class, on tracks that have long straights the top 2-3 can hang. In one race, can't remember the track, it actually took me 4(7lap race) laps to pass the top 3.

I just drove it at Road America in the R2 world championship and you're right, it destroys the rest of the R2 class.

It does seem to have weak suspension though, I was driving across some of the kerbs at Road America and the suspension damage indicators (all four of them) went yellow during the course of the 9 laps of the race, thus leading to some sudden oversteer issues here and there. :?:

Needs to be treated carefully as it's it a bit fragile but will destroy any R2 car is my verdict (haven't tried it against the R2 version of the Mazda Lola LMP yet though).

I'm still wondering what the Acura NSX '05+ is? It's bugging me...

[btcckid]

well i just sold my peugeot le mans car i got gifted..... put it up for auction buyout at 339,000....(was meant to be 340), got sold within 10 seconds of putting up...having looked before, people were asking 400 for it....so thought might aswell....got myself 2 lovely cars to keep me happy.... the audi rs6 touring(whiteish one) and a lamborghini diablo........ audi drives well.....suits me perefect... :)