Btcc 2010

[Lordsirion]

seems there thread for everything else and i not found btcc one, thought i would create one, some news people may or may not know. andy jordan is using a Vecra next year, but not the same as last year, he using the turbocharged engine suplied by Toca,
http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1773
car looks awesome. sort of like Ambrose V8 from few years ago.

tim bridgeman and Ben Collins who i believe is the stig, but thats another thread. both tested for the what was Airwaved BMW, (airwaves no longer sponsering)
http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1775&month=0&year=2009&form=&searchterm=

if anybody else would like to add anymore, then alls welcome

[Dan253]

team dynamics may make 2 teams next year, one called team dynamics and one called team halfords (apparently) Matt neal and James Thompson for Halfords and Pinkney and one other driver for dynamics

[DoMw94]

team dynamics may make 2 teams next year, one called team dynamics and one called team halfords (apparently) Matt neal and James Thompson for Halfords and Pinkney and one other driver for dynamics

i heard dynamics for 'juniors' and paying drivers and a 3 car honda works team with neal, herbert and thompson

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Some say Top Gear are entering a car next year, driven by a man in a white suit and helmet...

...All we know is...

...The BTCC won't ever be as good as the 1990s. :lol:

I'm just hoping that ITV keep the coverage on Freeview or it goes to the BBC because there have been rumours of it going to pay TV, i.e. Sky. :thumbdown:

[Dan253]

sky will be crap to be honest, the commentary and things the itv do are great, and good news also dunlop are back :)

[Lordsirion]

bets not go to sky, unless Eurosport or Motors get it, SKY SPorts, only program i dont pay for, ****ing hate Football, ino nascar and stuff on now and then, but sick of "Footie"

i think pinkney and herbert will be a team, seems as though Halfords love money, carn't belive they give sheddon the boot, alot of good drivers need rides

Thomo, Sheddon, Gio, Herbert, im sure there is more but im forgetfull hehe

[guybo]

Gio is going to WTCC from what I read

[Eurostc]

chevy don't have a ride for him , so he's looking at the Italian SuperStars ...

[moppenheimer]

Gio is going to WTCC from what I read

He was until Yvan switched over to Chevy.

[LittleZippyUK]

Motorbase have lost their main sponsor of Airwaves.

[Alex1911]

Andy Jordan driving a turbo Vectra confirmed

[def123]

Bamboo will be a two-car team, that was confirmed a few months ago.
Let's see if they can do a bit more in their first whole season, I hope so because with VXR gone there are three good cars missing!

[Lordsirion]

still think bamboo should have done better last season, started off well, but after RML got them chevy's flying, vaulkhard could have done better, who they having for other driver, Neal-Sheddon, or someone with money, herbert-pinkney or someone else

[def123]

still think bamboo should have done better last season, started off well, but after RML got them chevy's flying, vaulkhard could have done better, who they having for other driver, Neal-Sheddon, or someone with money, herbert-pinkney or someone else

I think Vaulkhard will stay, the other driver isn't confirmed I think!
But there are so many good drivers looking for a cockpit for nxt year, so they should easily get a driver especially because those other RML-chevys are so good at the moment, by the way will Silverline stay?

[def123]

Just read about a new team, Forster Motorsport (i don't know if I may add my source!?), they have two BMWs. They've already tested the cars at Brands in november, one of the cars is Jackson's old BMW but i don't know where the 2nd car is from.

[Andy81]

seems there thread for everything else and i not found btcc one, thought i would create one, some news people may or may not know. andy jordan is using a Vecra next year, but not the same as last year, he using the turbocharged engine suplied by Toca,
http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1773
car looks awesome. sort of like Ambrose V8 from few years ago.

tim bridgeman and Ben Collins who i believe is the stig, but thats another thread. both tested for the what was Airwaved BMW, (airwaves no longer sponsering)
http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1775&month=0&year=2009&form=&searchterm=

if anybody else would like to add anymore, then alls welcome

Interesting that there letting a special "few" use the new readily availavle engine for the new generation, there supposed to be more powerfull won't that give them a bit of an unfair advantage?

Would be nice to get another new team enter, be nice to see Forster Motorsport do well in thier first year. They did smash a car in the tire wall on their first test at brands so things can only get better. :-)

I wouldn't read too much into Motobase team (airwaves) testing new drivers either, they seem to have tested alot of new drivers aswell as Collard and Adam having had reasonably good year for the team. Might just end up as they were last year??????Mabee......

It's a bit of a shame Giovanardi is only contemplating factory drives, he should man up and get a pay drive at a smaller team to keep himself in touring cars i think before he ends up with a summer off.

[Lordsirion]

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=3569

specifications for new engine,

more info on touring car times

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4132

lea wood has entered the BTCC for 2010, in a private Honda Integra (Old Halfords Model)

also alan gow is trying slowly to kill RWD before the rules all change and its just FWD, RWD cars will be "Forced" to use a longer 1st gear to stop them getting a better start, which i think is awesfull but hey wont be RWD for long anyways


new forster team will be running two drivers and cars obviusly Martin Depper and Arthur Forster both past Mini Cooper champions.

i appogise for just ripping most of that from touringcartimes, but hopefully some people may not have known about it.

[NitrousOxideUK]

Giovanardi (sp?) might be taking a season sabbatical, from what I read at autosport...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80416

[Lordsirion]

i was reading he was asked to go to that italian superstars championship, and he's thinking about it, and seems all the big teams nah want him, unless he accepts less money and support then he going there, he was going to Chevy WTCC as they where getting 5 cars, but seems as though seat and or bmw no longer having 5 cars, chevy decided not to and told him he not got car.

[def123]

I really hope Gio stays he is a great racer!!!
I don't think he can get a drive at any worksteam in TOCAs except from Lada but he doesnt wanna drive there, I can understand him ;-). I think his only chance is going to a independent team, let's see what he'll do.

The test of Team Forster at Brands was not really the best one, both the drivers crashed it once in two days, so not really what I would call the best first test, but at least the mechanics could study the car!

[Trebor901]

I've heard that Giovanardi could partner someone who is probably THE best driver BTCC has got in it. In a car that runs an engine with 5 cylinders and won the STCC this year.

Jason Plato is working hard to get Volvo back into BTCC and i think if they do then Giovanardi should go there and that would be the most unstoppable team in BTCC for quite a while.

If not i would love to see JP back at Chevy because i think next year is gonna be his year. Finally.

Also a side note on Dave Pinkney someone told me that he was going to be driving for Team AON next year which will be a waste of a good seat in my opinion, that bloke has more money than sense.

[def123]

I'm just hoping that ITV keep the coverage on Freeview or it goes to the BBC because there have been rumours of it going to pay TV, i.e. Sky. :thumbdown:

On the BTCC-website in the article about tyres (from today) is said:

"The first round of the 2010 Dunlop MSA British Touring Car Championship will take place at the Thruxton circuit in Hampshire on Sunday 4 April. All rounds will be televised live on ITV4 with highlights on ITV1, ITV4 and Men & Motors."

So I think the BTCC stays where it is :thumbup:

[ravenmorpheus2k]

On the BTCC-website in the article about tyres (from today) is said:

"The first round of the 2010 Dunlop MSA British Touring Car Championship will take place at the Thruxton circuit in Hampshire on Sunday 4 April. All rounds will be televised live on ITV4 with highlights on ITV1, ITV4 and Men & Motors."

So I think the BTCC stays where it is :thumbup:

Yes but ITV are talking about putting ITV4 on tv subscription services and taking it off freeview. Men and Motors is only available via Sky/Virgin/BT, ITV want their digital channels, which includes ITV4, to go the same way, or so the articles I've been reading say.

So if that happens that means no more BTCC on freeview. And I'm loathe to pay my TV tax and then another TV tax on top of it, even if I could afford to, just for the BTCC/F1 and the few other programs I watch.

Besides I wish the BBC and Alan Gow would do a similar deal to what Bernie Ecclestone has done with the BBC, the BBCs coverage of F1 especially their iPlayer re-runs, which due to working shifts and thus missing live races I rely on, have been top notch for most of the season this year.

You can't say that about the ITV player. :thumbdown:

[def123]

Yes but ITV are talking about putting ITV4 on tv subscription services and taking it off freeview. Men and Motors is only available via Sky/Virgin/BT, ITV want their digital channels, which includes ITV4, to go the same way, or so the articles I've been reading say.

So if that happens that means no more BTCC on freeview. And I'm loathe to pay my TV tax and then another TV tax on top of it, even if I could afford to, just for the BTCC/F1 and the few other programs I watch.

Besides I wish the BBC and Alan Gow would do a similar deal to what Bernie Ecclestone has done with the BBC, the BBCs coverage of F1 especially their iPlayer re-runs, which due to working shifts and thus missing live races I rely on, have been top notch for most of the season this year.

You can't say that about the ITV player. :thumbdown:
:-( I haven't thought of this, I'm German so I don't get as many informations from Britain. BBC and ITV want to have sth similar to pay tv with their freeview-thing in 2012. Till then BBC will stay FTA (free-to-air) but you're right I read that ITV has problems to get enough money.
Let's hope it stays how it is now especially because I couldn't watch the BTCC anymore, just the DTM (boring) and the WTCC (massive crashes at the start and then also a bit boring) :thumbdown:

[btcckid]

Besides I wish the BBC and Alan Gow would do a similar deal to what Bernie Ecclestone has done with the BBC, the BBCs coverage of F1 especially their iPlayer re-runs, which due to working shifts and thus missing live races I rely on, have been top notch for most of the season this year.

You can't say that about the ITV player. :thumbdown:

yea....i think i struggled with trying to get the btcc working on itv player...i think i got something in the end but it was right laggy even then...so :thumbdown:

[def123]

And one more VXR Vectra sold:
Dave Pinkney will drive a Vectra next year, another one with that new engine, he'll drive for his own team.

[Alex1911]

2 Turbo Vectras in the field

I wonder who will get the 3rd Vectra and with a turbo engine too, could be very temting for the likes of MacMillan, Hughes, Kerry, Johnsson

[mallyauto86]

whats all this about toca ? btcc aint bin toca since the 90's . .

[Andy81]

whats all this about toca ? btcc aint bin toca since the 90's . .

Toca is the governing body that run the BTCC. Just that the title has been lost in the championship name for sponsors.

[guybo]

why don't we just call it the BSCC while we are at it? LOL

[DoMw94]

why don't we just call it the BSCC while we are at it? LOL

what does that stand for?

[David Wright]

what does that stand for?

British Saloon Car Championship - the old name for the BTCC.

[Alex1911]

Andy Jordan has posted a sneak peak of his Vectra

Looks totally awesome already :thumbup:
http://tweetphoto.com/7043546

[Trebor901]

its already built? although i suppose the stupid new engine will need a lot of testing otherwise it will be more unreliable than an Alfa Romeo.

[Alex1911]

its already built? although i suppose the stupid new engine will need a lot of testing otherwise it will be more unreliable than an Alfa Romeo.

the new engine will definitly be running good otherwise Alan Gow will be very pissed :laugh:

[def123]

its already built? although i suppose the stupid new engine will need a lot of testing otherwise it will be more unreliable than an Alfa Romeo.

And I think, that is why they let a few teams race with the new engine. A test in a race is allways the best way of testing an engine.

[Andy81]

its already built? although i suppose the stupid new engine will need a lot of testing otherwise it will be more unreliable than an Alfa Romeo.

The engine manufacturer has plenty of experience with racing engines and is being built with the view of lasting for a full season so should be bullet proof.

It should also give more power than existing engines with the turbo as well as being cheaper, so i'm not quite sure why it's stupid?

Making BTCC faster, cheaper and giving all teams a chance to have easy access to a cheap competitive engine is a very good idea i thought.

[Alex1911]

Paul O'Neil confirmed with Techspeed and the Honda Integra

[def123]

Paul O'Neil confirmed with Techspeed and the Honda Integra

I hoped Paul would get a better car, for example the third Vectra because I think he could be fighting for the championship.

By the way, Techspeed is thinking of starting with three Integras.

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Already 12 cars on the grid (8cars+driver and 4 cars without driver), but we're still waiting for RML/Racing Silverline, Team RAC and motorbase.
Also Team Dynamics hasn't confirmed anything yet, I think.

[Alex1911]

I hoped Paul would get a better car, for example the third Vectra because I think he could be fighting for the championship.

By the way, Techspeed is thinking of starting with three Integras.

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Already 12 cars on the grid (8cars+driver and 4 cars without driver), but we're still waiting for RML/Racing Silverline, Team RAC and motorbase.
Also Team Dynamics hasn't confirmed anything yet, I think.

Yes I also hoped Techspeed might also try the Vectra with NGTC Turbo engine like Jordan and Pinkney :crying:

So far confirmed are
- Andy Jordan Vectra
- Dave Pinkney Vectra
- Tom Chilton Ford Focus
- TOC Ford Focus
- Paul O'Neil Honda Integra
- TBA Honda Integra
- Harry Vaulkhard Chevy Lacetti
- Arthur Foster Foster Motorsport BMW
- Martin Depper Foster Motorsport BMW

[Trebor901]

Yes I also hoped Techspeed might also try the Vectra with NGTC Turbo engine like Jordan and Pinkney :crying:

So far confirmed are
- Andy Jordan Vectra
- Dave Pinkney Vectra
- Tom Chilton Ford Focus
- TOC Ford Focus
- Paul O'Neil Honda Integra
- TBA Honda Integra
- Harry Vaulkhard Chevy Lacetti
- Arthur Foster Foster Motorsport BMW
- Martin Depper Foster Motorsport BMW

TOC isnt confirmed at AON yet. Also i dont think we'll see RML with Plato i think we might see him at a new team.

[def123]

TOC isnt confirmed at AON yet. Also i dont think we'll see RML with Plato i think we might see him at a new team.

There's only one new team that would make sense:
Volvo

[guybo]

I know who TOC is... but who's TBA???? LOL (j/k)

Does anyone else thing TOC looks like he just stepped straight out of an anime cartoon?

[Alex1911]

VW Golf in the BTCC 2010

http://www.amdessex.com/news.read.cfm?articleid=78

[phil23]

Cool. Another new car is welcome on the grid. I hope we see a strong field in 2010:thumbup:

[murphy0207]

VW Golf in the BTCC 2010

http://www.amdessex.com/news.read.cfm?articleid=78

that was a surprise, great news though, the more the better.

wonder who the driver/s will be..........

[moppenheimer]

Hollomby and Shaw, it says in th article

[murphy0207]

Toca is the governing body that run the BTCC. Just that the title has been lost in the championship name for sponsors.

and own the rights, and arnt forethcoming in allowing any mods or new games, hence btwc ect...shame really

[Alex1911]

John George Integra for sale http://www.touringcarspares.com/car_details.php?id=68


That means he will most likly not return to the BTCC. 2010 is the last year for the BTC spec cars like the Integra, Civic , Astra Coupe, MG.

[murphy0207]

thats a shame , i think he was quite a good driver, a loss i think...........

[Dan253]

also liam mcmillans car is for sale so we prob wontbe seeing him no more, i thought when he raced he was great though!

so im sorry about that

[Alex1911]

also liam mcmillans car is for sale so we prob wontbe seeing him no more, i thought when he raced he was great though!

so im sorry about that

Seems ORECA really sc***ed him with the engines but i wonder why doesn't he consider doing the same as Andy Jordan and Dave pinkney and perhaps get a NGTC engine for his Toledo . :-)

if that engine works on the Vectra wh not on the Toldeo too and i don't think he will be denied a dispensation by Alan Gow

[guybo]

This just in- a British tuning house- AmD- has entered a team for 2010 running a VW Golf. The driver's name is Hollamby, and the car is a 2 liter naturally aspirated 4 pot.

[moppenheimer]

um...go back a page buddy

[Andy81]

also liam mcmillans car is for sale so we prob wontbe seeing him no more, i thought when he raced he was great though!

so im sorry about that

Mabee's he's after a different car/team for next year. No need to right him off just yet.

Good news about the golf entering aswell, nice to see a variety of cars, we do still need to get a team racing Alfa Breras though :mrgreen:

[guybo]

I missed that post...

Oh well,

[Lordsirion]

good to see for next year we still got all the teams and cars.

Focus, Integra, Golf, Vectra, Lacetti, hopefully we can get the volvo. what ever happened to the halfords i heard we where getting 2 teams so probably still Civics we but some money in get some alfa's or something even cooler in there

[def123]

Let's make a list of all the cars and drivers that are already announced for the 2010 season.

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 TBA

bamboo eng (Chevy Lacetti)
3 Harry Vaulkhard
4 TBA

Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
5 Arthur Forster
6 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
7 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
8 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
9 Paul O'Neill
10 TBA (maybe Martin Bell?)

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
11 Shaun Hollamby

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
12 Lea Wood

The numbers are NOT the numbers on the car!

So as you can see already 12 cars on the grid. Now ad probably 3 RML/ Silverline Chevys, 2 RAC BMWs, 2 Team Dynamics Civics, maybe 2 motorbase-cars and the third VXR Vectra, then we would have a grid of 22 cars.
Now let's hope, SEAT sport UK can stay in the championship with Shedden and let's hope for some new teams, that would be a nice grid :thumbup:.

[Alex1911]

i Also hope that Martin Johnson brings out his old Astra Coupe again for one last time

Would be so fitting for the Astra ... it was in the first year of BTC - era and it should race in its last year too :-)

BTW can anyone tell me why the RAC BMW isn't in RACE since it raced at Brands Hatch WTCC?

[Trebor901]

where did you get Team Wood from? hasnt been announced on BTCC.net yet and havent heard hardly anything on any other websites about it, also since when has the boys version of Lee been spelt Lea i thought it was a girl racer

[Lordsirion]

looking like a nice collection of cars, 22 is enough, im sure BTCC drivers can make things interesting, specially with new people entering and new cars aswell., carnt bloomin wait hehe

[D1sc05tu32]

Mabee's he's after a different car/team for next year. No need to right him off just yet.

I don't think we'll be seeing him back personally... I read somewhere they were thinking of returning to the Seat Leon Supercopa

[def123]

where did you get Team Wood from? hasnt been announced on BTCC.net yet and havent heard hardly anything on any other websites about it, also since when has the boys version of Lee been spelt Lea i thought it was a girl racer

Sorry I forgot to give my source. I have everything from the wikipedia page BTCC season 2010.
There is a grid with all the announced cars. There I found Team Wood, driver Lea Wood.

I'll check that.

EDIT:
You're right, it isn't on btcc.net!
But there's an article on touringartimes.com where they have an interview with George Wood who said they already have the car. It's one of the old Halford Integras.

[def123]

And one more car:
AmD will have two cars at a few meetings, sadly not at every meeting :-(
Simon Shaw will drive the 2nd car sometimes.

[def123]

More and more news:

RAC will not be the title sponsor for WSR this season.
Let's see what happens there, the reigning BTC-champion should be able to get a sponsor!

[Andy81]

More and more news:

RAC will not be the title sponsor for WSR this season.
Let's see what happens there, the reigning BTC-champion should be able to get a sponsor!

RAC are still sponsoring the car, just as co-sponsors. No danger of the team not finding another sponsor being driver champs.;-)

[Dan253]

RAC are still sponsoring the car, just as co-sponsors. No danger of the team not finding another sponsor being driver champs.;-)

Yea I hear they are going to revert back to West Surrey Racing for next year, and Alex Mcdowell has tested a RML chevy (supposedly matt jacksons) from this year, personally I hope plato and jackson stay at silverline as they were so good at the end of the year.

[Alex1911]

Yea I hear they are going to revert back to West Surrey Racing for next year, and Alex Mcdowell has tested a RML chevy (supposedly matt jacksons) from this year, personally I hope plato and jackson stay at silverline as they were so good at the end of the year.

And i hope Gio will drive for RML in the BTCC alongside Plato. This team would be simply unstopable and the internal rivalry would be pure awesomness

[Dan253]

yea i agree, i doubt we will see him in it again, Im gunna ruin myself if he aint in the btcc again, in 2008 he was coming out of the garage out onto the back of the pits as I was walking past at snetts, im killin myself for not getting his autograph and a photo with him :( come back gio

[Alex1911]

Andrew Jordan Vectra has been revealed, absolutly stunning :mrgreen:

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4318

[Alex1911]

orange no more

new WSR livery is white/blue http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4319

[Alex1911]

Let's make a list of all the cars and drivers that are already announced for the 2010 season.

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 TBA

bamboo eng (Chevy Lacetti)
3 Harry Vaulkhard
4 TBA

Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
5 Arthur Forster
6 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
7 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
8 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
9 Paul O'Neill
10 TBA (maybe Martin Bell?)

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
11 Shaun Hollamby

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
12 Lea Wood

WSR BMW
13 Colin Turginton
14 TBA (most likely Jelly again)


updated

[Lordsirion]

herbert is probably back for next year taking one of the possible 4 halfords seats

[def123]

The grid is getting full!
WSR is thinking of entering three BWMs and a new team might enter next season: IF Motorsports. They think of entering a Fiat Punto Abarth, with a NGTC engine and maybe even the whole car might be built with the new specifications.
They're not sure if they are ready till Thruxton but the might enter later in the season.

Here's the updated starting grid:

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 TBA

bamboo eng (Chevy Lacetti)
3 Harry Vaulkhard
4 TBA

Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
5 Arthur Forster
6 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
7 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
8 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
9 Paul O'Neill
10 TBA (maybe Martin Bell?)

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
11 Shaun Hollamby
12 Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
13 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
14 TBA
15 TBA
(???16 TBA???)

???IF Motorsport??? (most likely Fiat Abarth Grande Punto, NGTC)

What a great grid 77 days before the season starts! :thumbup:
Let's see what RML/Silverline, Team Dynamics and motorbase do.

[DoMw94]

I found out yestrday at autosport international that Colin Turkington and Jason Plato do not have any funding for next year.

[Alex1911]

Alan Gow "the car would certainly not be eligible - under either the current or the new BTCC (NGTC) regulations - as it doesn't even come close to meeting the minimum dimensions. It's simply not 'grande' enough....... " :laugh: :-P

[def123]

Alan Gow "the car would certainly not be eligible - under either the current or the new BTCC (NGTC) regulations - as it doesn't even come close to meeting the minimum dimensions. It's simply not 'grande' enough....... " :laugh: :-P

I think they won't use it this year. That wouldn't make any sense at all. They want to build a NGTouringCar but these rules are for next year. I don't think they would be allowed to use this or am I wrong about that?

By the way.
Team AON wants to save the environment :mrgreen:
The 2nd car and, if they have one, also the third car will not have a usual petrol engine. They plan to use LPG (gas).
I don't think they are really confident about it though Chilton's car will still have a petrol engine.

[Lordsirion]

i was thinking it was going to be a bad idea, but i just come back from JackFrost Christmas Stages at Croft and a Clio LPG powered car come in top 10 overall, it flew. so maybe Team Aon LPG be a good idea

Plato says he not got the funding for next year but he is really trying to make a deal. and Neal is trying to make a deal with Halfords.

[BTCC Madman]

whats wrong with a new manufactur entering the series??
bit annoying if aon do do lpg- we lose that incredible sound of the focus

[Lordsirion]

isn't it right that the new rules or from next year they have to be a curtain size, i think they actually just want FWD saloon cars like it used to be, so no civics or focus

your right thought that focus does sound awesome

[Andy81]

isn't it right that the new rules or from next year they have to be a curtain size, i think they actually just want FWD saloon cars like it used to be, so no civics or focus

your right thought that focus does sound awesome

Actually the min and max size has been in place for a long time, and the civics, Focus and even VW golf are all within the size despite not being the traditional saloon cars.
It's just that despite it's name the Grande Punto is a small car, they would be much better off picking the Alfa Brera which as someone else pointed out is within the size required :) Seriously though if 'IF' motosport are serious then there are plenty of new cars they could buy to fit the bill or 2nd hand tourers that'll do a good job.

[Lordsirion]

i could right i list out that would fit the bill just for something a little big different. brera would be awesome, just had to make it to the finish hehe.

[Andy81]

i could right i list out that would fit the bill just for something a little big different. brera would be awesome, just had to make it to the finish hehe.

Lol yeah, that's why a Fiat is a bad idea too. Any battle damage would take an age to repair, it's a 2 hour job to change the headlamps on some of those. That's why halfords won't touch them :mrgreen:

[pitradio]

whats wrong with a new manufactur entering the series??
bit annoying if aon do do lpg- we lose that incredible sound of the focus

Afaik LPG does not deliver an other sound than petrol. The smell is different however. LPG is a bit like rotten eggs.

I think it's stupid not to allow hatchbacks in that class. most small sedans are fugly.. Think about Ford Fiesta sedan....

http://www.groenlicht.be/wp-content/uploads/ford_fiesta_sedan_china_1.jpg

Or would they want to go back to Opel Corsa sedan..

http://oglobo.globo.com/blogs/arquivos_upload/2008/07/198_105-opel-corsa-sedan-1985.jpg

[murphy0207]

on the subject of lpg, and correct me if im wrong but there was a vectra challenge cup that used to run alongside the btcc , and there was a lpg vectra in the field, i dont think it won a race but improved quite a bit during the season, im sure it got a poduim finish at donnington the same weekend mat neal won in the team dynmaics primera(2nd race).?;-)

[Alex1911]

Martyn Bell will NOT race in 2010

That leaves a seat open at Techspeed in an Integra.

[Trebor901]

no it doesnt Alan Blencowe is racing there apparently

[Alex1911]

new very strong roumor

It appears 888 will return this season as a private entry with a Vectra and Turbo NGTC engine just like Jordan and Pinkney.

So this would mean that we will get 3 Turbo Vectras on the grid. No driver yet mentioned but Harrison said "We're talking to some serious parties about the 2010 programme already

I suspect it might be Mat Neal or perhaps even Giovanardi :-)

[Alex1911]

John George will drive alongside Paul O'Neil

So the updated list

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 TBA

bamboo eng (Chevy Lacetti)
3 Harry Vaulkhard
4 TBA

Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
5 Arthur Forster
6 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
7 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
8 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
9 Paul O'Neill
10 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
11 Shaun Hollamby
12 Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
13 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
14 TBA
15 TBA
(???16 TBA???)

17 888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
TBA

[mallyauto86]

team dynamics not running ?

[Alex1911]

team dynamics not running ?

nothing heard from them so far

[Alex1911]

new very strong roumor

It appears 888 will return this season as a private entry with a Vectra and Turbo NGTC engine just like Jordan and Pinkney.

So this would mean that we will get 3 Turbo Vectras on the grid. No driver yet mentioned but Harrison said "We're talking to some serious parties about the 2010 programme already

I suspect it might be Mat Neal or perhaps even Giovanardi :-)


LOL

just remebered something. Erkut said back in 08 that he plans to take a year off and return in 2010 in a Vectra

So could this actually be Erkurt ? :laugh::mrgreen:

[btcckid]

team dynamics not running ?

there flogging 3 civics ;-)



also in total 120hours of btcc for this year covereage :D

[mardionu]

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
11 Shaun Hollamby
12 Simon Shaw



AmD Technik has only one car. They share the car during the season if Simon Shaw finds funding.

[Alex1911]

some shock news

Bamboo will NOT race in the BTCC but WTCC instead. Well i think BTCC was way too tough for them anyway , they need the softer and sterille WTCC procession parade :-P:laugh:

so the updated list with only 14 possible entries so far . So far we may get 5 BMW , 3 Vectra , 2 Focus, 3 Integra and 1 VW.

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 TBA


Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
3 Arthur Forster
4 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
5 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
6 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
7 Paul O'Neill
8 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
9 Shaun Hollamby/ Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
10 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
11 TBA
12 TBA
(???13 TBA???)

14 888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
TBA

[def123]

So it's getting interesting now.
Today I read sth on Touringcartimes about RML.
Nothing confirmed yet, but there are rumours about two Cruzes on the grid with Plato as one of their drivers.
So maybe we might have a manufacturer on the grid - Chevrolet. What a team that would be!!!! :twisted:
"Well placed sources" said to Tocatimes that also Colin was talking to them :thumbup:

A 888 entry would be great, I think they would get some technical and maybe even financial support from VX and some big factorys as sponsors because it's a big and succesful team. I think it is in Vauxhall's interest if there is a Vectra fighting for victorys on the grid.

[KindaUnstuck]

Turkington has also been linked to a third WTCC Bamboo Lacetti today as well (as well as Proteam and Weichers and WSR and RML)

Accordng to Autosport Collard has been in talks with Motorbase and WSR but looks set to stay at Motorbase.

[Alex1911]

an interview with Steve Neal and there are some interesting things there


Q:
2009 maybe wasn't the season you hoped it would be. How would you sum it up?

Steve Neal:
That's a good question actually, I hadn't really though about that! One to forget I think, although the experience with Thommo was very good and Johnny Herbert was a great guy to have onboard. He doesn't have the experience of James though and isn't a direct replacement for him; he is someone different who brings something else to the party. For pure ability to drive a front-wheel drive car and set it up, Jimmy T is one of the best in the world as you well know. When he left us, we missed him.

Q:
How tough was 2009 as a team after the loss of Halfords backing and the fact that there were a number of driver changes during the year?

Steve Neal:
It is exactly what you've said. Funding was difficult as it is again this year – it's even tougher this year. The driver situation with David coming onboard was good as he brought a good budget with him but that is the first time I've run a driver who had paid for his drive. Normally I like to employ the young professionals. David was entertaining to have onboard though, that's for sure!

Q:
What's the state of play for 2010?

Steve Neal:
I was talking to Peter Riches and both he and Alan Gow think this season is going to be more difficult. Last year had momentum from 2008 but this year doesn't have the momentum – it has gone completely. There is very little cash about, people have been laying off staff and there are a lot of mechanics and engineers out of work. SEAT has quit the WTCC, Lada has pulled out, BMW has downscaled and it seems to be Chevrolet or nothing there. I don't see that as a proper world championship anymore.

Q:
With regards to the BTCC, are we seeing the after effect now of Vauxhall pulling out as we don't have a manufacturer team anymore.

Steve Neal:
It's a shame as they were the benchmark for everyone. If you have a proper manufacturer team like Vauxhall, or like RML, then there is something for everyone to go for and compare themselves to. They also have a strong influence over how the championship is run. When you get wildcards coming in with kit cars – like the new Focus and like the Lacetti – then it makes it a bit of a farce to be honest with you.

Q:
Is it more challenging to bring in sponsors without a manufacturer or is it always difficult.

Steve Neal:
Not for the normal sponsors it isn't as they are looking for what exposure they can get and you can sell that on the basis that they will probably get more exposure without the manufacturer teams. But to attract a works team, it is more difficult as they want to be racing against works teams. That is the difference.

Q:
You've made no secret about wanting to get Honda involved more and you said at Brands Hatch that there were more talks lined up. What happened there?

Steve Neal:
We are always talking to them to try and persuade them that is a good thing to be doing as it is the only thing they have left in motorsport in Europe. But we are only talking to Honda UK and they have had a tough time as you appreciate. They are doing alright under the scrappage scheme and have been selling the Jazz which is built in Swindon, and my understanding is that the company is running profitably, so maybe the view will be different.

Q:
But then you have the problem you just mentioned of not having a manufacturer team for Honda to race against...

Steve Neal:
Exactly. I don't see Honda putting up a works team like Vauxhall did with Triple Eight, but I think they would like to help out with some sponsorship. The problem is that we need to wait for them to set their sponsorship levels for the season ahead.

Q:
We can assume that one place would be filled by Matt. Would you want Johnny in the second seat?

Steve Neal:
It all depends on money quite honestly. If we have the funds to take Johnny on, then I would be very happy to do it.

Q:
Would you ever consider the NGTC engine as potential option for your cars to help with the budget?

Steve Neal:
We did look at it, but it doesn't package into our car. We have a small package in our engine compartment and putting that in with a pretty big blower on it and all the installation that is required wasn't practical from our point of view. Also, they say the first year will be cost neutral, but I don't see it like that. We have no market for our engines as no-one else really runs the Honda anywhere so there was no cash generation from selling the old engines to buy into the turbo package.

Q:
Will it be tough to ensure the performance of the two engines is kept fairly level given the arguments we've had in recent years over petrol against diesel and FWD against RWD?

Steve Neal:
I think you're right. TOCA seem to think they can control it and Alan [Gow] is of the opinion that he can control the power output and the performance of the cars. The fact that he doesn't isn't necessarily what we want to see. It was pretty obvious that the Lacetti had an advantage over everyone else last season and he should have been able to control that better – but he didn't.

Q:
There have been steps to the slow the RWD cars with the gearing change but will that solve a problem?

Steve Neal:
As long as they play the game they it might work, Personally, I don't think it is going to make a great deal of difference.

[def123]

That's really interesting.

The last passage about the Lacetti makes me wondering to be honest. I wasn't following BTCC in 2005 but I heard that the Integra was by miles the best car on the grid. And obviously it was Team Halfords that did run the Integra.

Now, 4 years later there's a car on the grid that has a small advantage (I don't think it's that big) and they start complaining... :thumbdown:

[Andy81]

That's really interesting.

The last passage about the Lacetti makes me wondering to be honest. I wasn't following BTCC in 2005 but I heard that the Integra was by miles the best car on the grid. And obviously it was Team Halfords that did run the Integra.

Now, 4 years later there's a car on the grid that has a small advantage (I don't think it's that big) and they start complaining... :thumbdown:

Sour grapes that's all.

Last season being able to afford an off the shelf lacetti from the previous years WTCC manufacturers was a big advantage. I bet if team dynamics could have pulled that off they would be falling over themselves.
Intersted to see how the chevrolets do against the NGTC engines this year though, and the Focus too that had some sort of monster under the bonnet towards the end of the season.
Saw it at Brands twice, first time it sounded like a lawnmower and was way off the back of the grid, second time it sounded like thunder and was fighting for the lead. Great races they were too.

[DoMw94]

this is pathetic! the bmw has been around for a good few years now, yet they are banning it soon. RWD doesnt give you that big an advantage, if they did then why has the bmw only won 1 championship and it went down to the last day too! its like tim harvey once said in evo, people dream about owning race cars like bmws but soon its just going to be chevys and kias and who every dreamed of owning one of those?

[Alex1911]

this is pathetic! the bmw has been around for a good few years now, yet they are banning it soon. RWD doesnt give you that big an advantage, if they did then why has the bmw only won 1 championship and it went down to the last day too! its like tim harvey once said in evo, people dream about owning race cars like bmws but soon its just going to be chevys and kias and who every dreamed of owning one of those?

what exactly do you mean by "soon"

the BMW as all other S2000 cars will be allowed to race until 2013 ? :?:

[ijack94]

what exactly do you mean by "soon"

the BMW as all other S2000 cars will be allowed to race until 2013 ? :?:

yes 3 years isnt long really is it. i agree with what dom is saying here because RWD cars dont get that big an advantage

[D1sc05tu32]

Honda have announced a 'factory team' in cooperation with Dynamics:

http://www.hondauk-media.co.uk/release/?release=1283

Looks good!!!

[Alex1911]

Honda have announced a 'factory team' in cooperation with Dynamics:

http://www.hondauk-media.co.uk/release/?release=1283

Looks good!!!

updated list , we can safely assume that Matt Neal will drive for Dynamics and they will probably race another car presumatly Johnny Herbert . So we have 16 potential entries and 18 if RML confirm their plans

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 TBA


Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
3 Arthur Forster
4 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
5 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
6 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
7 Paul O'Neill
8 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
9 Shaun Hollamby/ Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
10 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
11 TBA
12 TBA
(???13 TBA???)

888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
14 TBA

Team Dynamics - Honda (Honda Civic)
15 Matt Neal
16 TBA

[Lordsirion]

carnt wait already. still got months to wait, i hate winter, hard to find cars on the tv

[Lordsirion]

anybody know what turkington doing

[Alex1911]

another entry announced

Tom Boardman in an petrol SEAT Leon run by team Special Tuning (UK).Team is appearently looking for a second driver... could be Adam Jones or Shedden

so this means

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 TBA


Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
3 Arthur Forster
4 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
5 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
6 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
7 Paul O'Neill
8 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
9 Shaun Hollamby/ Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
10 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
11 TBA
12 TBA
(???13 TBA???)

888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
14 TBA

Team Dynamics - Honda (Honda Civic)
15 Matt Neal
16 TBA

Special Tuning UK - (Seat Leon TSI)
17 - Tom Boardman
18 - TBA

[btcckid]

http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1817

toms back

edit....beat me to it :)

[def123]

Matt isn't confirmed at Honda yet I think.

So with RML we have 20 and with motorbase 22 cars. :thumbup:
And I think they will all stay in the championship for the whole year :thumbup:

[btcckid]

Matt isn't confirmed at Honda yet I think.

So with RML we have 20 and with motorbase 22 cars. :thumbup:
And I think they will all stay in the championship for the whole year :thumbup:



thats what they put on their facebook last night

[def123]

Still many seats are open. But I think as soon as RML confirms their drivers we'll soon see who'll drive where.

That is what I think is going to happen:

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 Onslow-Cole


Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
3 Arthur Forster
4 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
5 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
6 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
7 Paul O'Neill
8 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
9 Shaun Hollamby/ Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
10 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
11 Turkington
12 Jelly
(???13 TBA???)

888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
14 Giovanardi

Team Dynamics - Honda (Honda Civic)
15 Matt Neal
16 Herbert

Special Tuning UK - (Seat Leon TSI)
17 - Tom Boardman
18 - Shedden

RML (supported by Chevrolet)
19 Plato
20 Jackson

What do you think?
Who is going to drive where???

[Lordsirion]

i think you could be spot on, still talks on TOC bringing a c30, and maybe plato as well, but only time will tell not heard anything off plato, i heard nash was coming back this year to in a chevy so thats another driver

[Andy81]

Where's this idea that team 888 are returning? That's not even been a rumour has it????, more of a hope. No evidence that Gio will return either unless i've missed something somewhere?
Info from him showed he was resigned to a quite season as he was only interested in a factory drive.

Matt Hamilton is also missing from the list, it's pretty certain he will race again.

[def123]

Where's this idea that team 888 are returning? That's not even been a rumour has it????, more of a hope. No evidence that Gio will return either unless i've missed something somewhere?
Info from him showed he was resigned to a quite season as he was only interested in a factory drive.

Matt Hamilton is also missing from the list, it's pretty certain he will race again.

They said that they plan to return (-> Touringcartimes) and I put Gio there because I think they would get some support from VX if they are on the grid.
It's in Vauxhall's interest if there's a quick Vauxhall out there and with 888 preparing the car it's almost certain that it is quick, isn't it?
And if he gets enough money, I think he would accept a quarter-factory drive, too...
By the way, wasn't Gio linked with RML (Chevy??)?

I haven't heard anything from Hamilton yet, so I didn't put him on the list.
He would drive for the same team, right?

[DoMw94]

pics from the first test http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4423

oh and andy81 - here http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4371

[Andy81]

pics from the first test http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4423

oh and andy81 - here http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4371

Ooh, i stand corrected. Could be interesting. But they'll have to make it quick if they want a NGTC engine. Although 888 could well run the factory engine from last year well enough.

Hamilton has said on his website he's returning with the same team, if that still means the old style civic i don't know.
I managed to get some good pics of his car at brands, it was moving a little slower than some of the others. :-D

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Andy3536/DSCF0810.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Andy3536/DSCF0869.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Andy3536/DSCF0874-1.jpg

[DoMw94]

Ooh, i stand corrected. Could be interesting. But they'll have to make it quick if they want a NGTC engine. Although 888 could well run the factory engine from last year well enough.

Hamilton has said on his website he's returning with the same team, if that still means the old style civic i don't know.
I managed to get some good pics of his car at brands, it was moving a little slower than some of the others. :-D

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Andy3536/DSCF0810.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Andy3536/DSCF0869.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Andy3536/DSCF0874-1.jpg


ooh loveley! yeah he should be back, i saw him at the autosport show

[Lordsirion]

just read up on btcc.net, andy neate will be joining WSR next year, with turkington, not sure whether being streched to 3 cars not read it anywhere, and pritty sure OC will be driving for Aon, so thats few drivers cought up on

[D1sc05tu32]

just read up on btcc.net, andy neate will be joining WSR next year, with turkington, not sure whether being streched to 3 cars not read it anywhere, and pritty sure OC will be driving for Aon, so thats few drivers cought up on

Doesn't say anywhere about turks. Great to have Neate back racing and best of luck to him 8-)

[Andy81]

Turkington has just done a test for WSR, not signed for them. It could be where he goes but it will depend on finances now.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81630

Onslow Cole looks like he's going to be no2 at Aon, at touring car times they talk about the testing in Spain and refered to him as Chiltons teammate....
Mabee it's in the works but teh contract just needs an X on it.

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4432

[Alex1911]

Andy Neate has been confirmed at WSR which means

[Alex1911]

new announcement

Jelly wil NOT race in the BTCC because he doesn't have the funds. This makes a 3 car entry for WSR extemly unlikely. So the updated list

[Alex1911]

Rob Collard has sighned with WSR and NOT Motorbase :ohmy:
So with 2 drivers announced it apears Turkington will not race with them or they will run 3 cars :?:

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 tba

Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
3 Arthur Forster
4 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
5 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
6 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
7 Paul O'Neill
8 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
9 Shaun Hollamby/ Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
10 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
11 Andy Neate
12 Rob Collard


888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
13 tba

Team Dynamics - Honda (Honda Civic)
14 Matt Neal
15 tba

Special Tuning UK - (Seat Leon TSI)
16 - Tom Boardman

[KindaUnstuck]

Rob Collard has sighned with WSR and NOT Motorbase :ohmy:
So with 2 drivers announced it apears Turkington will not race with them or they will run 3 cars :?:

WSR are working on sorting the third car out for Turkington (whatever they mean by that).

Details of a sponsorship package with Collard are going to be announced shortly - I wonder if this is tied into the third car as well.

Motorbase are also due to announce new backers as well as the new driver lineup, so it must have been a good deal for Rob to go back to WSR, really hope we see Colin in the third car though.

[Alex1911]

David Bartrum seems to be very upset about this late switch

"Naturally I am disappointed that Rob has opted to go elsewhere because as far as we were aware we had an agreement and I believed him to be a man of his word"

[def123]

Now that's something nobody expected.

"Nevertheless these are exciting times for Motorbase and we have a major backer and an associate sponsor to reveal within the next week with our full driver line-up," said Bartrum."
So next week we'll see who's gonna drive for them.

[DoMw94]

Johnny herbert will not be in BTCC this year, he has gone to superstars http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4456

[Alex1911]

it appeas that on the Autosport mag was reported that Jason Plato will drive a Cruze for RML after the Volvo deal didn't materialize

[def123]

it appeas that on the Autosport mag was reported that Jason Plato will drive a Cruze for RML after the Volvo deal didn't materialize

Chevrtolet Sweden will use a Cruze in STCC next year, so............

Sad not to have Volvo on the grid. A manufactury would be great.

[Trebor901]

Chevrolet Sweden using one means nothing RML will build as many of them cars that teams want and personally i can see JP being partnered by Mat Jackson in BTCC this year again which will be great to see

[Alex1911]

exactly

Updated list, wouldn't be just awesome if Giovanardi would be the second driver , Plato and Gio in the same car after 3 years of instense rivalry, what more can you want, it would setle things once and for all :mrgreen:

also added Motorbase since it has been already confirmed that a major backer has been found after Airways left them. Also 6 seats are left open

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 tba

Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
3 Arthur Forster
4 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
5 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
6 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
7 Paul O'Neill
8 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
9 Shaun Hollamby/ Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
10 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
11 Andy Neate
12 Rob Collard


888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
13 tba

Team Dynamics - Honda (Honda Civic)
14 Matt Neal
15 tba

Special Tuning UK - (Seat Leon TSI)
16 - Tom Boardman

RML - (Chevy Cruze)
17 - Jason Plato
18 - TBA

Motorbase - (BMW 320si)
19 - TBA
20 - TBA

TH - Motorsport (Honda Civic Type R)
21- Matt Hamilton

[mardionu]

Matt Hamilton confirms 2010 BTCC assault with TH Motorsport

[Eurostc]

Looks like Plato may get #1 plate at the end of this year instead of #2 ....:-)

[def123]

Looks like Plato may get #1 plate at the end of this year instead of #2 ....:-)

Well, RML has improved the Cruze this winter. I think it's now the best car in WTCC and if they use it in BTCC there might be a bit of a gap to the other teams...

[Alex1911]

Well, RML has improved the Cruze this winter. I think it's now the best car in WTCC and if they use it in BTCC there might be a bit of a gap to the other teams...

doesn't the Cruze have some dispansations in the WTCC ?

[def123]

doesn't the Cruze have some dispansations in the WTCC ?

They finished first, 2nd and 3rd in the first race and I think 4th, 5th and 6th in the second race. That's not really disappointing I think ;-)

[Alex1911]

Lea Wood will not race his Integra in the first 2 rounds due to sponsor issues but looks like he will race starting from Brands Hatch

http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/2010/03/10/lea-wood-happy-with-test/

[Alex1911]

potential good drivers which are unfonfirmed so far
- Colin Turkington
- Mat Jackson
- Adam jones
- Gordon "flash"Shedden
- Tom Onslow Cole
- Phil Glew
- Johnny Adam
- Steven Kane
- James Nash

and only 6 seats available as it looks

[D1sc05tu32]

Phil Glew and Dean Smith tested a 888 Vectra at the Rock the other day according to autosport... They only have one car though :(

[DoMw94]

Phil Glew and Dean Smith tested a 888 Vectra at the Rock the other day according to autosport... They only have one car though :(

i read that they still have 2. the other is probably an oldr car or a spare shell. i heard a roumor of menu returning for the last round last season and they had a spare shel in the factory

[Trebor901]

they have got 2 more because they've still got the one that Alain Menu raced at Thruxton in 2007 because the 1 of the 3 used for the last 2 years was a brand new one

[Lordsirion]

i think glew should get it, he been racing in clio's and he completed took the championship last year, and there isn't really a build up championship now like the leon used to be.
still think turkington will go to WSR i think he was waiting for BMW WTCC to offer him a drive, maybe he will do the Vaulkhard route but i dont think so.
i thought i read somewhere Nash was back in a Lacetti but maybe old news
possibly safe to say OC will be at Aon, doing all the tests wearing overalls so on.
Sheddon maybe get the other Dynamics seat he was there before and i think he is a good driver.
If RML do come back i think it should be Plato Jackson, seemed to work last year.
Collard has joined WSR so there is 2 spare seats at Motorbase, so maybe Kane, Adam?
Jones entered a private Leon for last few rounds last year so if money in right place he could come back with that.

i think i maybe way off with this prediction but hey.

[D1sc05tu32]

I think we'll see:
Motorbase - Jackson & Collins/Kane
RML - Plato & MacDowell
WSR will get Turks
I don't think Shedden will go to Dynamics after last year.

Gio and Glew for 888?

[def123]

I think we'll see:
Motorbase - Jackson & Collins/Kane
RML - Plato & MacDowell
WSR will get Turks
I don't think Shedden will go to Dynamics after last year.

Gio and Glew for 888?

I thing Boardman's team wants to have two cars next year, so Shedden might race there in his SEAT.
Let's see what Gio will do, RML would be an option for him, too.

[Trebor901]

Gio said he was having a year out of any racing, he would have to pay for the drive at 888 and RML (unless they get works backing) and he has already said that is not an option

[Alex1911]

didn't Jason Plato manage to have a deal where sponsors payed the seat AND him too ?

[DoMw94]

I dont see liam macmillan returning. 2 of his cars are for sale http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/30124/BTCC_Toledo.html

[Alex1911]

I dont see liam macmillan returning. 2 of his cars are for sale http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/30124/BTCC_Toledo.html

His main problem was the engines of ORECA

He could have perhaps used an NGTC engine now like Jordan and Pinkney or he could pay for a seat in another team

[Trebor901]

but the cars are being sold with 2 complete engines so they must have recieved the engines at some point £25,000 though seems a bit cheap for a super 2000 touring car even with its age, the Integra BTC Spec was being sold last year for £65,000

[Alex1911]

but the Integra is more bulletproof in terms of ressitence to crashes :laugh:

[Andy81]

Just seen this.

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4514

Plato tests a Cruze at Oulton Park.

Other teams were testing at Oulton Park today: WSR with Robert Collard and Andy Neate, Andrew Jordan with Pirtek Racing and David Pinkney with Pinkney Motorsport.

[Lordsirion]

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/29432/2008_Chevrolet_Lacetti_S2000.html

selling 2 lacetti cars, plato,jackson of last year, that mean Cruze then, 70k hmm i wish

[Alex1911]

I fear that unless Turkington appears, Plato will walk away with the championship

Chilton has a very good car to win it but he still makes some mistakes sometime

[Trebor901]

I fear that unless Turkington appears, Plato will walk away with the championship

Chilton has a very good car to win it but he still makes some mistakes sometime

I dont know, Chilton when he is on the money he really drives well you only have to look at brands at the end of last season. I dont want Plato to run away with it i want him to win the title through a hard fight because that is what he deserves, he deserves a good fight and for once to come out on top of the championship

[Lordsirion]

i think turks will come back, whether with WSR or Motorbase, maybe he wants a new challenge but carn't say he wants to leave.

[murphy0207]

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/29432/2008_Chevrolet_Lacetti_S2000.html

selling 2 lacetti cars, plato,jackson of last year, that mean Cruze then, 70k hmm i wish

i wonder if they have any payment schemes:laugh:

[Alex1911]

I dont know, Chilton when he is on the money he really drives well you only have to look at brands at the end of last season. I dont want Plato to run away with it i want him to win the title through a hard fight because that is what he deserves, he deserves a good fight and for once to come out on top of the championship

that's the thing with Chilton IMO

he has style very depending on the form. He can fly sometimes and drive brillaintly but he can have a bad mood and makes many silly mistakes

He is not (yet) someone like Gio who drivers to the maximum of the car every time

[Andy81]

i wonder if they have any payment schemes:laugh:

Lol, yeah i often wondered about that.

More suprising is the Motorsports vision shop. One click and your cometing in a series.
Formula Palmer Audi.......add to cart.......go to checkout now............ :twisted:
http://www.msvshop.co.uk/product.php/127/fpa_2010_championship_drive

[Lordsirion]

i'll offer them £3 a month :)

[DoMw94]

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4520 New Honda Civic! the coolest looking car ever!

[def123]

Team Dynamics will run two cars next year, the drivers will be Matt Neal and surprisingly Gordon Shedden back there...

Motorbase will be "Team Airwaves" for another year. They secured the sponsorship now...

“Our original plan was to run a BTCC newcomer alongside an experienced driver, in the same way that we brought Steven Kane and Jonathan Adam to touring cars over the past couple of years. I’m not sure it will quite work out like that now… as things stand today, we might even go one better.”
So who do you think will be their drivers?
Maybe Johnny Adam alongside Matt Jackson???

[Lordsirion]

i was thinking the same thing, adam and jackson, all depends whether RML come back with Jackson or not, im sure they all know now just taking ages to tell everyone, DAMN YOU

[Andy81]

i was thinking the same thing, adam and jackson, all depends whether RML come back with Jackson or not, im sure they all know now just taking ages to tell everyone, DAMN YOU

There's really not many clues as to who Motorbase will sign. Although you would think Adam will be there.
Jackson could be a good bet, surprised he wasn't at the Chevy test with Plato at Oulton the other day, may be a sign he's available??? Especailly after it looked a pretty certain deal that Plato was gonna join Volvo.
But as most teams and drivers are taking longer to get their finances sorted and drivers in place the BTCC have extended the testing restrictions by 8 days to March 31.
So at least drivers signed at the 11th hour may get to drive the cars before they arrive at Thruxton.

But your probably right in assuming all the drivers and teams know how it's gonna pan out, their just leaving us in suspense :laugh:

But team dynamics really look the part with that livery. Gonna look great :-)

Looks like AoN will run LPG. I'd assume with both cars but the news report doesn't make it clear. I know in Spain they did one Petrol and one LPG.
http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4523

Hope this goes well after looking so fast at the end of last year.

[Lordsirion]

i was thinking are they using the Mugen civic this year or old civic, glad to see they got neal and sheddon back think they might be good team next year... i read they extended testing just, shame there only 14 or so cars upto this point, was dissapointed with WTCC lineup thought BTCC would be more impressive, as where still missing RML and Airwaves, Boardman wanting 2 cars. still i suppose around 20 in a touring car race is goood

[Andy81]

i was thinking are they using the Mugen civic this year or old civic, glad to see they got neal and sheddon back think they might be good team next year... i read they extended testing just, shame there only 14 or so cars upto this point, was dissapointed with WTCC lineup thought BTCC would be more impressive, as where still missing RML and Airwaves, Boardman wanting 2 cars. still i suppose around 20 in a touring car race is goood

Hopefully it will all fall into place in the last week. 20+ will be good and i'm still expecting that.

[Alex1911]

time to update the list :-)

With Shedden having a drive I guess the possible team mate for Tom Boarman could be Adam Jones

Only announcemnets missing are Motorbase, RML and VX (if they show up)

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 Tom Onslow Cole

Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
3 Arthur Forster
4 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
5 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
6 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
7 Paul O'Neill
8 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
9 Shaun Hollamby/ Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
10 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
11 Andy Neate
12 Rob Collard


888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
13 tba

Team Dynamics - Honda (Honda Civic)
14 Matt Neal
15 Gordon Shedden

Special Tuning UK - (Seat Leon TSI)
16 - Tom Boardman

RML - (Chevy Cruze)
17 - Jason Plato
18 - TBA

Motorbase - (BMW 320si)
19 - TBA
20 - TBA

TH - Motorsport (Honda Civic Type R)
21- Matt Hamilton

[Andy81]

time to update the list :-)

With Shedden having a drive I guess the possible team mate for Tom Boarman could be Adam Jones

Only announcemnets missing are Motorbase, RML and VX (if they show up)

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 Tom Onslow Cole

Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
3 Arthur Forster
4 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
5 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
6 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
7 Paul O'Neill
8 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
9 Shaun Hollamby/ Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
10 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
11 Andy Neate
12 Rob Collard


888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
13 tba

Team Dynamics - Honda (Honda Civic)
14 Matt Neal
15 Gordon Shedden

Special Tuning UK - (Seat Leon TSI)
16 - Tom Boardman

RML - (Chevy Cruze)
17 - Jason Plato
18 - TBA

Motorbase - (BMW 320si)
19 - TBA
20 - TBA

TH - Motorsport (Honda Civic Type R)
21- Matt Hamilton



888 team were running a S2000 spec engine during the tests.

Be interesting to compare their pace with that of the NGTC engine Vectras.

Well, providing they make it............

[Lordsirion]

888, who was riding the car in tests?

[Andy81]

888, who was riding the car in tests?

Glew and Smith

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4506

No return for Gio, just incase that's what you were thinking :-(

They both seemed to impress though.

[Lordsirion]

ah right, so is that 2 car team or they sticking with 1, think they sold all other last years cars off.. just read its TOC and chilton is LPG powered focus

[def123]

888, who was riding the car in tests?

Phil Glew and Dean Smith
http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4506

EDIT:
Andy was a bit quicker...

[def123]

I just read on wikipedia that Dynamics is Honda Racing Team. So are they a complete works-team or are they just supported by Honda?

[Andy81]

ah right, so is that 2 car team or they sticking with 1, think they sold all other last years cars off.. just read its TOC and chilton is LPG powered focus

The wording in the article i think implys there's only 1. But I can't find any information on that anywhere.
If they enter, there's no reason why they wouldn't have enough spares to run 2 cars. Probably more dependant on finances. But it certainly looks like the team will be there in some form.
Just have to keep an eye on the news for the actual answer......

I did also post about the LPG Focus earlier ;-) But yes. The test in Spain must have gone well. Be a shame if it wasn't near the front after the ground they made up last year.

[Trebor901]

nope they're not a works team Steve Neal confirmed that yesterday. They have been getting money from Honda for the past 3 seasons and this seasont they're getting no more than they have been in previous years, i guess it looks good to have the manufacturer name on the side of the car in BTCC

[Andy81]

I just read on wikipedia that Dynamics is Honda Racing Team. So are they a complete works-team or are they just supported by Honda?

Supported by, with very close ties. But not a works team.

Beaten to it, this threads moving fast :)

[Alex1911]

man the thing about the Motorbase lineup is simply thrilling with candidates in 2 or even 3 cars :

- Ben "the Stig" Collins
- Colin Turkington (still without a drive) would be a real great move if they manage to snatch him from WSR after the Collard loss :mrgreen: :D
- Mat Jackson
- Steven Kane
- Johnny Adam
- Alex MacDowall
- Tim Bridgman

[Andy81]

man the thing about the Motorbase lineup is simply thrilling with candidates in 2 or even 3 cars :

- Ben "the Stig" Collins


Lol, i wonder what his race suit looks like :laugh:

Be interesting to see him in the BTCC. Although it'd be quite a que for a team to bag Turkington.
You know he's gonna consistently finish in the points and rarely wreck the car. It's be a shame if he doesn't get a drive.

[Alex1911]

Lol, i wonder what his race suit looks like :laugh:

Be interesting to see him in the BTCC. Although it'd be quite a que for a team to bag Turkington.
You know he's gonna consistently finish in the points and rarely wreck the car. It's be a shame if he doesn't get a drive.

well Turkington surelly has valuable information regarding the setups WSR used on its beamers, so another reason to try and grab him for Motorbase ;-):-)

[Andy81]

well Turkington surelly has valuable information regarding the setups WSR used on its beamers, so another reason to try and grab him for Motorbase ;-):-)


Lol, yeah inside information. :-)

Motorbase may have been waiting for the Airwaves deal to get rubber stamped before going after good drivers. The article that talks of them regaining Airwaves does hint that Jackson and Turkington are available???And that they may announce a better driver lineup than last year..... Just coincidence, or are they trying to point us in the right direction???

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4525

[Alex1911]

Mat Jackson, Colin Turkinton and perhaps a 3rd car for Kane, Collins, Glew


This would be a really strong lineup , which could challenge RML and AON

so far RML and AON have best cars/driver lineups IMO

Andy Neate will be useless in the first part of season for WSR so Collard will be on his own i guess

[Trebor901]

Andy Neate i doubt will be useless because he is the one who has helped WSR develop that BMW over the past few years and before his crash he was meant to be replacing Jelley last year.

Also if Turkington and Jackson are team mates this year that will be one of the best combinations ever although i would expect Jackson to come out on top because when he was in a BMW he was always quicker than Turkington

[Alex1911]

Hmm

in 2008 Mat jackson raced for his "BMW Dealer Team" and so i think he had more support from BMW as WSR did ;-)

So no , I think that Jakson will not simply outrace Turkington this time

[Trebor901]

no Mat Jackson in 2008 was run by Jackson M-Sport and just had sponsorship from BMW Dealer UK and wasnt helped by BMW at all, Mat Jackson is the better driver imo and look back at the last race of 2007 at Thruxton Jackson battled nearly all race with Turkington and Turkington spun himself and Jackson won.

[Alex1911]

no Mat Jackson in 2008 was run by Jackson M-Sport and just had sponsorship from BMW Dealer UK and wasnt helped by BMW at all, Mat Jackson is the better driver imo and look back at the last race of 2007 at Thruxton Jackson battled nearly all race with Turkington and Turkington spun himself and Jackson won.

may be but Turks is more experienced with the BMW now ;-) and Jackson didn't race the BMW since 2008

until the Motorbase lineup is actually confirmed we can only speculate

[Andy81]

Turkington doubtful.....

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4529

[Alex1911]

so far it looks like Mat Jackson and team AON might be the only ones to be able to stop Plato :crying:

Or Neal by ramming him off the track :-P

[Trebor901]

that Civic wont stand up to Matt Neal's normal crap driving standards

[def123]

so far it looks like Mat Jackson and team AON might be the only ones to be able to stop Plato :crying:

Or Neal by ramming him off the track :-P

I totally agree with you.
RML did a great job this winter and developed the Cruze to the best car in World Touringcars. If Matt stays at RML he could be able to beat Jason, if he goes to Motorbase, it's gonna be very hard for him to beat Plato.

The Focus might be a strong contender this year, too. But we don't know how good that new engine works, so it's hard to predict how good they really are.
By the way, was another team in another championship already using the LPG engine or is Team AON the first team using it?

But never forget 888 (if they enter a car...)!! They know the car, they just need a good driver and they'll be in the top 5.

[Alex1911]

the VX Vectra with its nomal S2000 engine was a disaster in the second half of the season on the straights it clearly lost out to the Lacetti, BMW and later the Focus

It only took some good results because Giovanardi and his ultra high skills drove it. Neal and Jordan clearly struglled with it

So considering that i think it will grab some podiums at best , maybe a wing with reverse grid if it shows up of course :-(

the TURBO Vectras might be a different issue however ... :D

[def123]

the VX Vectra with its nomal S2000 engine was a disaster in the second half of the season on the straights it clearly lost out to the Lacetti, BMW and later the Focus

It only took some good results because Giovanardi and his ultra high skills drove it. Neal and Jordan clearly struglled with it

So considering that i think it will grab some podiums at best , maybe a wing with reverse grid if it shows up of course :-(

the TURBO Vectras might be a different issue however ... :D

I have to admit, you're right...
The Vectra wasn't that good at the end of the season. I haven't thought of that, to be honest ;-)
But still, I don't think the two Turbo Vectras will be as good as the normal one, maybe the Pirtek team at the end of the season. 888 is way more experienced than the other two teams and that's a huge advantage.

[Dan253]

Just remember pirtek worked with 888 last year with jordan so they might have some experience with setups ect.

[bazza_racer]

I have a mate who will be in the btcc this year. and he says... Motorbase filled both their seats at the beginning of the week (but doesn't know who they are possibly Collins and Kane), Alex Macdowell will be with RML in the 2nd cruze alongside Plato. 888 have no-one signed but WILL be using the NGTC engine (makes sense, as toca want it to work... so it'll have to be fast so will prob get loads of rule breaks if it's not...) Turkington will struggle because he has NO money... he brought the RAC sponsorship to WSR, so now they've pulled out he's stuffed...
Is Gorden Sheddon confirmed at Dynamics??? I've heard that James Nash has been talking to them this week.. (amongst 888, Aon and a 3rd car for RML) - Same as Phil Glew!

[Alex1911]

I have a mate who will be in the btcc this year. and he says... Motorbase filled both their seats at the beginning of the week (but doesn't know who they are possibly Collins and Kane), Alex Macdowell will be with RML in the 2nd cruze alongside Plato. 888 have no-one signed but WILL be using the NGTC engine (makes sense, as toca want it to work... so it'll have to be fast so will prob get loads of rule breaks if it's not...) Turkington will struggle because he has NO money... he brought the RAC sponsorship to WSR, so now they've pulled out he's stuffed...
Is Gorden Sheddon confirmed at Dynamics??? I've heard that James Nash has been talking to them this week.. (amongst 888, Aon and a 3rd car for RML) - Same as Phil Glew!

well in case of the TOCA Turbo engine if its not competitive they can simply increase the boost to give it more power ;-)

[def123]

Just remember pirtek worked with 888 last year with jordan so they might have some experience with setups ect.

Yes maybe. But I think you'll agree that 888 who developed the car themselves, have way more informations about the car.
But if it's true what bazza_racer is telling, 888 will be fighting for victorys, but they need a good driver who can handle the car...

[Andy81]

I have a mate who will be in the btcc this year. and he says... Motorbase filled both their seats at the beginning of the week (but doesn't know who they are possibly Collins and Kane), Alex Macdowell will be with RML in the 2nd cruze alongside Plato. 888 have no-one signed but WILL be using the NGTC engine (makes sense, as toca want it to work... so it'll have to be fast so will prob get loads of rule breaks if it's not...) Turkington will struggle because he has NO money... he brought the RAC sponsorship to WSR, so now they've pulled out he's stuffed...
Is Gorden Sheddon confirmed at Dynamics??? I've heard that James Nash has been talking to them this week.. (amongst 888, Aon and a 3rd car for RML) - Same as Phil Glew!


888 havn't even confirmed their entry. If they leave it much longer it may to too late to get an Engine.
Gordons defenatly confirmed at Dynamics aswell.

It would be interesting to see Ben the Stig Collins in the BTCC. I'd be really surprised if they went with him over Adam. But they all did testing for them. He may have been really quick. You don't get to be the stig for nothing after all.
Seems like even if we get all the teams were expecting good drivers will still miss out.

[Lordsirion]

http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1847

Chevy have entered 2 cruzes into BTCC driven by Jason Plato and Alex Macdowell that leaves jackson open to Motorbase surely

[def123]

http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1847

Chevy have entered 2 cruzes into BTCC driven by Jason Plato and Alex Macdowell that leaves jackson open to Motorbase surely

Plato will be champion at the end of this year :thumbup:
That's all you can say isn't it?
The Cruze has become a great car now and RML knows every part of it, so it's going to be very hard to beat Plato.

Let's see what MacDowell can do.

[Alex1911]

a Manufacterer team LOL

It takes the absese of the likes of Gio, Jackson , turkington and the only factory support for JP to finally win the championshp so even if he wins it won't mean much under this low opposition after he failed for 4 years in a row :thumbdown:

[Dan253]

ahhh: 06 he had 3 finishes at donno with only 2 points, in 07 he was not really a match for gio at the end of the year, in 08 they kept having missfires at the end of the year which didnt help and in 09 didnt have the car knowledge at the start of the season until snetterton or oulton really

[Alex1911]

In 06 the Integras and all BTC spec cars had weight penalties to favor the S2000 cars( specially the SEAT)

in 07 he was leader going into the final round at Thuxton and he had about a 10 points margin so it was his to lose and not Gio's to take

in 08 admitingly the Diesel had realibilty issues bu still it was best car in the field in terms of speed.

in 09 he again had the best car in the field, that Lacetti was unstopable in the second half of the season.

So Plato this years somehow has the luck to be in the best cars of a season :twisted:

[DoMw94]

I know its old news now but matt neal was saying that the civic needs to loose weight. its only just occured to me that it might be him that needs to loose the weight! hees like 12 foot tall:-P:laugh:

[ijack94]

Hahaha well said DoMw94. Does anyone know if Turkington is in it this year?? If so what car??

[DoMw94]

Hahaha well said DoMw94. Does anyone know if Turkington is in it this year?? If so what car??

No sadly its looking like he wont return due to money issues. if he does come back, it will most likeley be in a wsr bmw again

[Trebor901]

ha! makes me laugh, money issues when his family own a business turning over tens of millions a year.

Awesome to see Chevy works team though, very very happy about that

[Dan253]

well the money issue isnt from him, its because he cant find sponsorship, mainly because RAC isnt the main sponsor with WSR as he brought the RAC with him when he joined WSR again back in 06!

[Trebor901]

if he brings in the money to race you dont need a sponsor, its just that normally the money comes from the sponsors

[Alex1911]

Mat Jackson and Steven Kane will drive for Motorbase plus Martin Johnsonwill return

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 Tom Onslow Cole

Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
3 Arthur Forster
4 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
5 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
6 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
7 Paul O'Neill
8 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
9 Shaun Hollamby/ Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
10 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
11 Andy Neate
12 Rob Collard


888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
13 tba

Team Dynamics - Honda (Honda Civic)
14 Matt Neal
15 Gordon Shedden

Special Tuning UK - (Seat Leon TSI)
16 - Tom Boardman

RML - (Chevy Cruze)
17 - Jason Plato
18 - Alex MacDowall

Motorbase - (BMW 320si)
19 - Mat Jackson
20 - Steven Kane

TH - Motorsport (Honda Civic Type R)
21- Matt Hamilton

Boulevard Team Racing - (Astra Coupe)
22- Martin Johnson

[Lordsirion]

http://www.btcc.net/html/drivers.php

just had look and there 23 confirmed drivers, woop, looks like a kick arse season

[Lordsirion]

so come on people, who are the two triple 8 drivers?

[Alex1911]

so come on people, who are the two triple 8 drivers?

if only Gio would be in one of them :crying:

it there is no mention if 888 will use the old S2000 engine or the new NGTC Turbos liks Jordan and Pinkney

[mardionu]

Possibly drivers for 888 are Phil Glew and Dean Smith.

[def123]

if only Gio would be in one of them :crying:

it there is no mention if 888 will use the old S2000 engine or the new NGTC Turbos liks Jordan and Pinkney

Well it wasn't mentioned, they only said that Pirtek ans Pinkney will use it.
So nothing confirmed yet.

But I think if they want to, they'll get it because they have the experience to develop sth and that might help to develop the engine, which is very important since everyone has to use it next year.
And, I think you agree, 15 of 20 cars out of the race with an engine probleme doesn't really look good ;-)

[zud the spud]

I haven't been keeping up with BTCC across the winter, what is Turkington doing for 2010? I'm astonished if he doesn't have a drive.

[DoMw94]

I haven't been keeping up with BTCC across the winter, what is Turkington doing for 2010? I'm astonished if he doesn't have a drive.

he couldnt get the money together so it doesnt look like he will be starting the season

[Andy81]

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4537

Thiis article would indicate that 888 are entering with 1 car (as i think they mentioned before) and with an S2000 engine.
NGTC engine cars are marked. And if they have at least confirmed their entry then the engine spec should be known.

Although which driver they run is still an unknown.

[DoMw94]

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4537

Thiis article would indicate that 888 are entering with 1 car (as i think they mentioned before) and with an S2000 engine.
NGTC engine cars are marked. And if they have at least confirmed their entry then the engine spec should be known.

Although which driver they run is still an unknown.

what?:?: it clearly shows that triple eight are hoping to enter 2 cars. the 88 and 888 cars. ok 3 didgit number may be a bit wierd but they pulled it off in V8 supercars. also on the btcc website, it shows 2 triple eight entries

[Andy81]

what?:?: it clearly show that triple eight are hoping to enter 2 cars. the 88 and 888 cars. ok 3 didgit number may be a bit wierd but they pulled it off in V8 supercars. also on the btcc website, it shows 2 triple eight entries

Oops my bad :)

Well spotted. I was looking for 888 down the order and must have missed 88 :thumbup:
Looks like a S2000 engine though :-)

[Andy81]

Here's something i wasn't expecting.
Honda (team Dynamics ) are to be classed as a manufacturer team along with Chevy. So 2 manufacturers for 2010.

http://www.btcc.net/html/drivers.php

[def123]

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4542

Plato was fastest today.
But if it stays how it is right now it would still be okay!
2nd is Gordon Shedden who is 0.155sec behind Plato. That's not really a big gap!
Let's hope Plato doesn't find more speed, but I think he will... :-(

[Alex1911]

Now he question is what happened to Andy Jordan and his Turbo Vectra

Did they restrict the Turbo too much ?:-( or pehaps Andy and his team are just sandbagging to avoid any protests from the other teams ? :mrgreen:

[BTCC Madman]

gonna be a great year.
at least iv got a local driver to support - alex mcdowell only 18 miles away lol

[Andy81]

Now he question is what happened to Andy Jordan and his Turbo Vectra

Did they restrict the Turbo too much ?:-( or pehaps Andy and his team are just sandbagging to avoid any protests from the other teams ? :mrgreen:

I was thinking what happened to the turbo cars of Pickney and Jordon. But it could be anything.
But they were only using the indy circuit so top end power won't be the deciding factor.
Could be setup, both drivers and teams are new to the car so may not have the setup knowhow with the vectra yet. It's all just speculations though, they may well end up being mid pack runners like the initial test is showing. But first race at Thruxton will certainly show the power of these new NGTC engines. I would really expect the turbos to perform well there.
Being a first drop in the ocean though as it were with the NGTC engine, it won't be difficult to get them right for next year or tweaking the boost to give them an even playing field if the're not quit up to speed.

Be interesting to see the turbo vectras go up against the S2000 vectras for a real comparison though.

[Trebor901]

the cars that are really standing out at the moment as being really quick are, Focus', Civic's and Cruze's, BMW's seem the same as always

[Alex1911]

I was thinking what happened to the turbo cars of Pickney and Jordon. But it could be anything.
But they were only using the indy circuit so top end power won't be the deciding factor.
Could be setup, both drivers and teams are new to the car so may not have the setup knowhow with the vectra yet. It's all just speculations though, they may well end up being mid pack runners like the initial test is showing. But first race at Thruxton will certainly show the power of these new NGTC engines. I would really expect the turbos to perform well there.
Being a first drop in the ocean though as it were with the NGTC engine, it won't be difficult to get them right for next year or tweaking the boost to give them an even playing field if the're not quit up to speed.

Be interesting to see the turbo vectras go up against the S2000 vectras for a real comparison though.


I also i think it might be embarassing for Alan Gow if this turbo Vectras are outpeformed by the S2000 cars in such a categoric way. he must allow them more boost :twisted:

[DoMw94]

Hmmm? I certainly do hope so!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2718/4458334438_e88c4627ed.jpg

[def123]

Hmmm? I certainly do hope so!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2718/4458334438_e88c4627ed.jpg

Is this a real picture???

Would be really great to see Turkington trying to defend his title :thumbup:

[Alex1911]

some worrying comments from Pinkney :-( could it be that TOCA has restricted the turbos too much :thumbdown:

“We’ve been running similar laps to Andy (Jordan) all day and were within a tenth of a second of each other on the times, but there is a bit of a gap to the front-runners, so we seem to be a bit under-powered at the moment.“

[Trebor901]

Is this a real picture???

Would be really great to see Turkington trying to defend his title :thumbup:

Thats the same name transfers that have been on there for the past 3 years, they just add the other drivers names in the team above it every year and i guess they were hoping he'd get backing so he could race but im pretty sure it wont be on there for Thruxton

[Alex1911]

Phil Glew has been confirmed at 888. this means that only the other seat at 888 is open and perhaps thrid car for Turkington at WSR

Team Aon (Ford Focus)
1 Tom Chilton
2 Tom Onslow Cole

Forster Motorsport (BMW 320si)
3 Arthur Forster
4 Martin Depper

Pinkney Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
5 Dave Pinkney

Pirtek Motorsport (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine)
6 Andy Jordan

Tech-Speed with sunshine.co.uk (Honda Integra)
7 Paul O'Neill
8 John George

AmD Technik (VW Golf)
9 Shaun Hollamby/ Simon Shaw

Team Wood (Honda Integra)
10 Lea Wood

West Surrey Racing (BMW 320si)
11 Andy Neate
12 Rob Collard


888 (VXR Vectra, NGTC engine) ?
13 Phil Glew

Team Dynamics - Honda (Honda Civic)
14 Matt Neal
15 Gordon Shedden

Special Tuning UK - (Seat Leon TSI)
16 - Tom Boardman

RML - (Chevy Cruze)
17 - Jason Plato
18 - Alex MacDowall

Motorbase - (BMW 320si)
19 - Mat Jackson
20 - Steven Kane

TH - Motorsport (Honda Civic Type R)
21- Matt Hamilton

Boulevard Team Racing - (Astra Coupe)
22- Martin Johnson

[Andy81]

888 are cutting it a little fine with the second driver......

Think you can loose the NGTC engine next to them now though.

There's some great paint jobs on the cars this year. BTCC never looked so good. :)

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4551

[def123]

888 are cutting it a little fine with the second driver......

Think you can loose the NGTC engine next to them now though.

There's some great paint jobs on the cars this year. BTCC never looked so good. :)

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4551

The cars look great!!!! :thumbup: :-)

But look at Arthur Forster's car. He has to be a small person, because otherwise he won't be able to see what's going on.
That white stripe on his windscreen is very wide :ohmy:

[Trebor901]

the white stripe on Forsters windscreen actually isnt any bigger than the one on the Motorbase BMW's

[Andy81]

The cars look great!!!! :thumbup: :-)

But look at Arthur Forster's car. He has to be a small person, because otherwise he won't be able to see what's going on.
That white stripe on his windscreen is very wide :ohmy:

Selling far too much windscreen space as advertising. Rather silly, when he goes down paddock hows he going to see an accident thats happening up the hill....
Who cares, that's were i'll stand :)

Edit* Yes trebor the airwaves logo covers just as much. There's really not much room to see out of.

Some promotional video shot at the media opening at Brands on the 23rd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHbb315pxd8

Only missing 888 by the looks of it.

[Lordsirion]

i think they know, but just being pains, then again maybe they dont have a driver and maybe join in later in season

[Trebor901]

hopefully 888 will have a team mate for Phil Glew by Friday then it will be the full 23 cars on the Thruxton grid

[Andy81]

Interview with NGTC enigine manufactures. They recon more people might take up the engine before the years out.

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4577

[Alex1911]

Interview with NGTC enigine manufactures. They recon more people might take up the engine before the years out.

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4577

but Alan Gow needs to have the turbo raised cos now it looks like pinkney and jordan are underpowered actually

If they are slow in the speed trap it means they really need more boost :crying:

[Andy81]

but Alan Gow needs to have the turbo raised cos now it looks like pinkney and jordan are underpowered actually

If they are slow in the speed trap it means they really need more boost :crying:


Gow, Swindon Engines and the teams using the NGTC enigine seem pretty confident in the engine. Don't forget the only comparison we have is at the tight indy circuit at Brands so it's not a real power test. They may have been taking it easy on the test aswell.

We really just don't know. Could be anything.

We'll know in a week though, Thruxton will be a great test of power. See how quickly they're going at the end of the back straight.

The article for Swindon engines also talks about better intercoolers and cooling for the engines could give a team a big HP difference over others using the same engine aswell. So the teams may want to look at themselves as part of the power issue (if there is one) :?:

[guybo]

Woohoo! 4 days until the new season officially begins with Thruxton quali! w00t!

OK, so I'm an American, can you Brits out there adopt me for 10 wonderful weekends this year? Don't make me beg bc BTCC has become my favorite racing series!

[Lordsirion]

yeah, carn't wait for season start, you got a channel over in US to watch it?

[Alex1911]

yeah, carn't wait for season start, you got a channel over in US to watch it?

there are the lovable torrent sites for the non UK folks

Torrent sites are a God send gift to us mortals :-)

[Lordsirion]

yeah, got to love torrent sites.

[guybo]

there are the lovable torrent sites for the non uk folks

torrent sites are a god send gift to us mortals :-)



qft

[Alex1911]

http://twitter.com/DunlopBTCC/status/11431029033

Please let it be the super italian Gio :-)

[Andy81]

http://twitter.com/DunlopBTCC/status/11431029033

Please let it be the super italian Gio :-)

Could be Gio, makes sense after touring car times did an article about it being an all British championship this year :laugh:
http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4582

Gio or Turks when they talk about it being a 'Top name driver' More likely to be Gio though given 888s history with him.

[tmsr]

Could be Cleland coming out of retirement :mrgreen:

[Andy81]

Could be Cleland coming out of retirement :mrgreen:

Hmm, yes.....


More 888 news.
Team boss Ian Harrison told Motorsport News, “We will definitely have two cars on the grid for the opening meeting. We’d like to think that will carry on for the rest of the season too, but we are still in talks”. This opens the way for whomever takes the wheel at Thruxton not necessarily being the full-time driver.

From Touring car times pre season preview http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4586

Also see plato is unhappy aboput the turbos LPG Fords aswell. Aparently they were quicker by 3mph at the Brands media day despite posting the 4th and 8th fastest times. Didn't know the LPGs were going to be turbos.
http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=4585

[Dan253]

Them LPG Focuses to seem to fast considering how quick the Cruze is, would like to know the difference from the Turbo Diesels in 08 in the trap compared to the focus, I mean that Lacetti seemed quick but by the end of the year it wasnt the quickest, that was probably half the reason that focus was at the front in brands last year. Looks like it still doesnt have the full package compared to the Cruze though

[Lordsirion]

hang on a minute, plato complaining on high speed, his and jackson Lacetti at brans last year went past everyone else like he has a V8 under the hood. and like Dan said they still never won