is the E90 faster than the rest?

[fizman]

on paper, it has higher power/weight.
on the track, out of the box, it seems harder to drive than the rivals.
in a couple of forums, i've read that it isnt altogether honourable to race in the bimmer, coz its quicker than the rivals once tuned correctly..

opinions?
should i try and tune it, or do you think it will eventually get banned from races to prevent one model dominating?

(nogrip hotlaps show that it isnt dominant. and the alfa makes next to no appearances whatsoever!)

[darock]

Tuning it correctly isn't the clue to the car. The forums where that was said..... well, they are what the are.

As for honor being important, you haven't raced online have you. ;)

Nah, it's no big deal as a car. What it almost always does that dazzles the newbies, is the sucker kicksbutt on standing starts.

It takes learning to deal with power on oversteer to drive it fast. The FWDs take learning to deal with power on understeer to drive fast.

One thing you should do (you asked for advice) is pick a car and stick with it until you've sorted out how to balance the handling with the springs and shocks. If you jump around, you'll never have a grounding in what balance feels like or how to get it with the type car you're in.

As for the idea it would get banned? Are you kidding? I betting you've not been online in GTR2. If any car in a game was going to be banned, that blasted Ferrari 550 would have been gone 2 weeks after GTR was released.

The BMWs aren't harder to drive. And get only marginally easier with tuning. And the FWDs aren't harder to drive either. And get only marginally easier with tuning.

It's not the car that wins the race, it's the driver. In our games at least.

[darock]

If you're trying to decide what car to start out with, consider this......

If you think the Bm'er is going to give you an advantage, forget about racing sims. You find advantages in your driving ability. And thinking about finding advantages takes away from developing them inside you.

And if you get bored easily, start with any of the FWDs. That way, what you're learning about FWDs will have a chance of being used in the next one you jump into when your 1st choice no longer excites you.

This game is a blast. It's one where you can actually find books that explain how to setup the cars. Of course the books were written by guys like Carroll Smith and Bob Bondurant and the likes. Amazing....... and fun.......

[SuperCouilles]

I think the BMW are a tad faster...
IMO, RWD are harder to drive and less forgiving. They are also more fun when you get to the point where the rear slide and you're able to adjust the throttle not to spin.

[guybo]

In the Leaderboards the 320si dominates. At RSC you see the BMW more than any other car with the best hotlaps. In my league, the points leader drives a BMW. BMW also has the manufacturer's lead.

IMHO the BMW is the fastest car in the game. Now, that said, if you jump into a Bimmer and think that you will just automatically dominate, you are wrong. You have to now how to drive it. The guy who is in the lead in my league could hop in any car and still win, he is a straight up alien.

But the BMW is a car that is harder to drive an entire race cleanly with because it is more prone to spinning. It is less forgiving than the FWD cars, which are much better to recover from a spin or off in.

[Bram Hengeveld]

FWD-cars are easy to go fast in. The majority of the people will probably pick this type of car for that reason.
An average driver will not accomplish much in a BMW. But the aliens among us will go extremely fast in a RWD BMW E90.
That said i can simply defend why i drive the old E46, lol

[fizman]

i cant stand FWD.
makes no sense to me..
will start working that bimmer :)

[SuperCouilles]

FWD-cars are easy to go fast in. The majority of the people will probably pick this type of car for that reason.


I disagree with this comment. Here's why:

It's not because you think you're fast that you're fast. IMO, that impression comes from the fact that the car is less prone to spin. Not spinning doesn't necessarely make it fast. What you'll see oftentime is FWDriver entering a corner WAY too fast. Soon, and because of that "trustable" car's behaviour, every corners are entered too fast... This, of course, make you lose time. You think you're going fast, but you're not.

I will agree that at first, it's easier to do clean lapses on a FWD. The domino effect of this will be that those clean lapses are going to be faster than the one made on RWD. No doubt.


IMO, when you're good enough driving both FWB and RWD, then you discover a world of difference. One FWD example is when to use the throttle or not. Sometime, compression will make you understeer. Sometime, gas will make you understeer. To be fast, you need to know when to use gas to counter "understeer" - and you'll need to know all of this if you're using RWD and want to compete with the E90 which is a tad faster.