New 4-Stroke Engine

[Roger]

Has anyone seen this before? Interesting...............

www.new4stroke.com

[richard]

Like you say Roger, interesting,
it seems to work OK.

[Hanski]

Reminds me of, here in Finland, under planning since 1969, 2-stroke slow going Diesel engine, as in vessels. What makes it interesting is to double it to 4 cylinder one, but still 2-stroke, when going,swithcing fuel injection between cylinders to acchieve high rounds per minute. Nice motor, less moving parts, so cheap,and light. but not cabaple to acchieve goal of low pollution.
It is, though, one way, when developing diesel-engines by adding todays new invention, urinecompunds, to fuel flow, and catalyzers.

[Feliks]

Please visit update page:
Without oil possible?


http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Possible%20mutation%20pivot.htm

Regards Andrew :)

[Feliks]

In large scale are better see advantages or disadvantages :) :)

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Sulzer.jpg



One Grek man , help me and free make some pretty animations: when coursor up -Hi PPM when down Low RPM.

www.new4stroke.com/images/new4stroke.exe
www.new4stroke.com/images/new4stroke_around.exe

Regards Andrew:)

[Feliks]

Half rotate engine animations

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Halfrotate1.gif

Need change a broken cylindre pistons complet?:)
http://www.new4stroke.com/images/cardan1.jpg

Problem with crankshaft deflection are little: http://www.prismateknik.com/viewNavMenu.do?menuID=11

Regards Andrew :cool::

[Pero_Grozni]

Looking very interesting.
Few questions
-how ist the burning chamber sealing solved. There are 4 surfaces which need to be sealed. I see that there are plates with loaded springs intended to seal 2 surfaces.
-How is the lubrification of the sealed surfaces solved
-How is the power output compared to a normal 4 cylinder engine with the same capacity

[DoubleT]

I want video of this running. Anybody hear it's exhaust note? Should be very interesting.

[Feliks]

Looking very interesting.
Few questions
-how ist the burning chamber sealing solved. There are 4 surfaces which need to be sealed. I see that there are plates with loaded springs intended to seal 2 surfaces.
-How is the lubrification of the sealed surfaces solved
-How is the power output compared to a normal 4 cylinder engine with the same capacity

Its few possible combinations:
http://www.new4stroke.com/images/pivot16_pliki/image002.jpg
http://www.new4stroke.com/images/oil.jpg

next ceramic lubrication water,
or brake blade without lubication :)
at other surfaces too same seals,this don't see becouse its idea are better easy understand, :)
Power output are possible will better , becouse only one rod in 4 cylinder engine,and no Nm force.this force are at "piston" bearings-better efifcient
http://www.new4stroke.com/images/tlok%20silyp.gif
only one "piston pins",sumary not same "rotating" mass for normal engine.
Too no problem with thermal expand "piston"
Need make prototype and measure:) :)

[Feliks]

I want video of this running. Anybody hear it's exhaust note? Should be very interesting.

Yes ,you right.If I have some time, and help ,I make a good video with sounds.
I I laughed , so if I put my prototype to racing car, and go to start at nomal race, every racer are give me walk-over first place if he hear this sound my engine :) :)
In old sliding timing cross ,aspin rotary cone they are opened exhauts window are lineary (becouse are rotary sped lineary).But in my engine
moment opened exhaust window are in maximum speed of piston valve , and
Immediately open window.First attack are big.:) :)
And its very importand advantages;-good first attack are most help resonance in exhaust tube,and sumarry help intake a new air portion.

If possible ,I can sell this sound to good racing simulation games :):):)

[Amun]

wow, so you actually have the working prototype?

This engine design seriously looks amazing.

please make a video with the engine sounds included. :roflmao:

[Sime(Bleach)]

Another waste of time and money,you've basically got what we have now.. the extra pistons dont really have any effect other than to add weight and probably become another unreliable appendige, goin to be more friction/heat build up which in turn becomes less efficient regardless to what they reckon....

[Feliks]

wow, so you actually have the working prototype?

This engine design seriously looks amazing.

please make a video with the engine sounds included. :roflmao:


Yes, I have working prototype piston valve engine .But Amun, if I seriously think make this video , I have some question:
Only same vide , is not interesting. Why? E.G.: Open your motor partition in your car, make a vide with work engine and next without work engine. I think so this two vide they look identical. Its same you see on normal photo this engine. Photo this engine are on page .
And make vide is little interesting.
But sounds in this vide theoretically are interesting.If I make this vide normal camcorder with microphone , sounds are not very clean and not have a good sound dynamic.
When I need standard CD quality, I must record this sound e.g. Pro tools HD system recording. I don’t bring my engine to studio with this system :) .I must rent portable sytem.
But another question are fact ,so when restoring this .wav file on normal equipment , we not have a good dynamic and sound no right tone. I have sound equipment: activity four way system at JBL/Celestion components, and its no enough to good sound simile sounds engine.
I thing so this engine make 145 dB sound pressure.It is same different normal alive race eg.F1 and .wav file with sounds this race. This same with Roaring of Lion . wav file , and same Roaring of Lion at Safari in Africa 10 meter near.( at night):) .
And I thing, so make this .wav Is not good wave to popularize this sound, because not make right emotions. But welcome to Krakow , e.g. free weekend and see work engine.
For alleviating your curiosity describe story about sound or all impressions with eorking prototype.:
My Professor at Technology University of Krakow, who’s see first prototype at work end detail look when engine work, because I made gradate work at study wit my own conception
When I am finish second prototype I invite him to my garage for demonstrate how work my new prototype. When I am start my engine, Professor , has gone out from opened garage very fastly. Hi stay about two minutes behind garage , and slowly back, and make me congratulations good work . Hi say me , so first time hi little afraid.:confused:: I don’t surprised , because I too sometime not sustain this too big sound.
But other sides sound: I was make a muffler to my engine this is photo it: http://www.new4stroke.com/images/muffler.jpg
When I am put it at work engine, I am was surprised , a very silent work mechanically engine. I don’t believe – it 95 % silent ratio normal engine !! ( this engine without hydraulic clerance). Fact, most mechanically noise in traditional engine are made valve timing !!.
Amun, maybe , you know how math cost simile” sound machine” in England?
I thing so height e.g. Moog :)
Right?

[RedHawk]

I think it's total crap
That's my opinion, if this should be efficient then it would be in production, right?

[Feliks]

With "cylinder" and popped...

http://www.new4stroke.com/walki.jpg

Are You know engine named Twin Feliks ? :rolleyes:

http://www.new4stroke.com/tloki.jpg

Mutations "Long Cylinder" and 8 piston valve in one "cylinder"

http://www.new4stroke.com/8%20piston.jpg

Possible mutations water cooled half rotary:
Without that leaks in driving and from deducing of water half rotate "piston" . Elastic hose only several degrees twisted.

http://www.new4stroke.com/elastic%20hose.jpg


Regars Andrew :-D

[CX650]

I think it's total crap
That's my opinion, if this should be efficient then it would be in production, right?

Every invention has to start somewhere. e.g. where is the production version of the ceramic engine that Kawasaki had running in 1984?

It is investment that dictates production viability, not the viability of the product itself.

[Pizzaman]

Ahum... has anyone considered why a rotary engine is efficient, even while it has the same problems with piston-clearances and rings and such?

Well, I'll tell you. Some of you will now hit their head 'what the hell wasI thinking'!
Do you know what, besides friction, makes the internal combustion engine least efficient?
It's the changing of direction of masses. Like the up-and-down of the pistons.
This is why a rotary engine produces such good HP for the engine displacement size.

The formula to calculate this is : Energy =0.5 * mass * (SQR)velocity

so the energy needed to accellerateor stop an object is a half times the squared velocity times the mass of the object.
Now calculate that for 4 dancing pistons at 5000 RPM. Do the same for the engine above. Yes it will work. Like a sliding-valve engine works. But it won't rev.
Maybe it will make a good stationary engine.

Still, it's a nice invention!

[pitradio]

Looks like you did design it in Solidworks :).

[CX650]

Ahum... has anyone considered why a rotary engine is efficient, even while it has the same problems with piston-clearances and rings and such?

Well, I'll tell you. Some of you will now hit their head 'what the hell wasI thinking'!
Do you know what, besides friction, makes the internal combustion engine least efficient?
It's the changing of direction of masses. Like the up-and-down of the pistons.
This is why a rotary engine produces such good HP for the engine displacement size.

The formula to calculate this is : Energy =0.5 * mass * (SQR)velocity

so the energy needed to accellerateor stop an object is a half times the squared velocity times the mass of the object.
Now calculate that for 4 dancing pistons at 5000 RPM. Do the same for the engine above. Yes it will work. Like a sliding-valve engine works. But it won't rev.
Maybe it will make a good stationary engine.

Still, it's a nice invention!

Quite!

[Feliks]

Little Horse Power Meter

Tongues in engines manner of measurement of amount of mechanical horse.
Each engine owns invariable parameters about definite , like :
Sum of inertia mass, sum inertia springs, chains ,valves,etc.

Each model of engine has this parameters exactly SAME !!

And if for example, we want it without load for 4000 RPM ,at same time , we need exactly SAME horsepower.
It is principle my idea: Horse Power Meter.

Manner of measurement Horse Power:
Car is stop !!
We have running engine in idle RPM.
We need only same impulse classic RPM meter
Next we push and press in electronic meter switch "measurement"
Next we must push throttle in FULL .
Engine go to eg 5000 RPM.
Electronic measurement TIME with special SOFT , how long engine going measurement period 3000 rpm to 4000 rpm . This TIME are equivalent horsepower of engine.
Little power -long time , normal power - short time
Idea in diagram:
http://www.new4stroke.com/RPMTime.jpg


Next diagram electronic of Horsepower Meter, can made little 8 -bit processor eg. AT2051. Small individual Soft for each model of engine:

http://www.new4stroke.com/lcznik1.jpg


Engine is gauged in its time of measurement of force LOAD his own.
And it is not necessary has drive testing your car.

Andrew :drive:

[James_1]

Hi Andrew, what you have done is brilliant! Please keep up the great work! This is something I have spent huge amounts of time thinking about myself, I ended up inventing the cross-rotary system but I see that yours is more efficient. I wish you the best of luck with this project.

[PukaMan86]

I think I like this more

www.revetec.com

[James_1]

Still only 38.6% efficient.

[PukaMan86]

Still only 38.6% efficient.

With most conventional gas engines being about 25%.

[James_1]

32% with 12:1 compression.

[Feliks]

On one of aerial forum, describing my horse power meter, it re-wrapped in discussion for transmit force for transmission in helicopters theme limitation , very often.
I read this forum and , I has been orientated , that transmission is critical element in helicopter most
Sometimes. at creation of new invention, inspiration takes place at I safety of user most important
There is so and this time.
Understand how as critical thing beginning, try to omit she completely.
My constructions for carrying half- rotary engine directly try to joint impeller of helicopter, with out any transmission. In order to get low turns properly, I must use engine about outsized jumping capacity, and low rpm. My half -rotate engine, is accuracy, and size are reasonable.
Second ,safety important , are diesel fuel in this low rpm engine. Summary I increase safety twice.
It try to make similar to main parameters " " Chinook”.
http://www.new4stroke.com/rotor1.jpg

Principle of operation half-rotate engine
http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Halfrotate1.gif

Air cooling " piston"
http://www.new4stroke.com/images/air.jpg

And neither one cogged circle :D :D

For it, that their is passion force and speed engine ,contained about such dimension behind back of drivers well , so, it is possible to use for for race. For example, call such race FORMULA 0,5 Grand Prix :wink:


I find same gear box at propeller C-130 Hercules airplane.
With torque sensor.
My work:

http://www.new4stroke.com/rotor2.jpg

And again neither one cogged circle :D:D

Andrew:-D

By the way , which I am curious be have voice such helicopter?? Really similar to average ship? ....

[PukaMan86]

32% with 12:1 compression.

How many cars have a 12:1 compression ratio? Answer: Most of them don't. Compression ratio isn't the only factor. As stated before, average is about 25%.

The revetec engine's thermal efficiency is almost at diesel levels, which is impressive, and doing so while putting out about half the emissions of a conventional engine. Not to mention it also reduces the size of the engine considerably as well, which is a big plus.

[James_1]

You are right, a high compression engine is very expensive to make. The idea is good but whether it is viable is another thing...

[Pizzaman]

Awww, bull crap. have you ever looked at the compression rate of a diesel engine?
BTW my (admittedly non-standard) Mini has a 11:1 compression ratio.
Needs to have it too, because of the hot camshaft that's in it.
It's NOT meant to make it more efficient...

[Feliks]

Largest in the World project engine .

This name: MULTIBOXER - its radial engine in horizontal position.
Tis is first cross head radial engine.
If made please using components Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C piston, cross head ,rod:

Engine 14 cylinders have 108,920 hp at 102 rpm .
My project engine have 45 cylinders end power ~~ 350. 000 hp
Tis is better ,so nuclear reactor in aircraft carrier ship.
http://www.new4stroke.com/cross%20head.jpg
http://www.new4stroke.com/cake.jpg


Last time I do not like something very cogged transmissions too. :D

My horizontal engine need angle transmission.
Its my project crossheads 90 deg angle transmission:
http://www.new4stroke.com/angle.jpg

May by twin crossheads angle replace old "differential" ?? ;)

Andrew :drive:

[Feliks]

Largest in the World project engine .
Last time I do not like something very cogged transmissions too. :D
.....
May by twin crossheads angle replace old "differential" ?? ;)

Andrew

New differential:
http://www.new4stroke.com/differential.jpg

I don't like noise of differential too... :rolleyes:

The Mathematical crossing short-circuit,
results of new easy differential :

http://www.new4stroke.com/differential1.jpg

...and add few viscous couplings :rolleyes:

Andrew:drive:

[Feliks]

Next short-circuit:
http://www.new4stroke.com/differential2.jpg



Andrew :-D

[willowjoe]

New 4-Stroke Engine

wow, a new four stroke. amazing

[Feliks]

And precise differential:

http://www.new4stroke.com/precise.jpg

Regards Andrew :drive:

[Feliks]

Different new sites in animation Solid Works of new differential.

http://www.new4stroke.com/differ.wmv

Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

Next about 550 MW power engine project:

http://www.new4stroke.com/radial%20half%20rotate.jpg



http://www.new4stroke.com/turbiny.jpg


http://www.new4stroke.com/gwiazda%209.jpg

550 MW


Regards Andrew :drive:

[bozont]

wow interesting stuff. but...the crankshaft mechanism should be last posible solution.

[Feliks]

wow interesting stuff. but...the crankshaft mechanism should be last posible solution.

I have a new dilemma : this engine are crank-less or no?? ;-)

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Wobble-1.gif

ERegards Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

Originally posted by Feliks


For hi power system my version this good idea:
http://www.new4stroke.com/images/ratio.jpg


Better is good enemy !!

http://www.new4stroke.com/variorod.jpg


New rod differential at animations Solid Works when one axle stop:

http://www.new4stroke.com/differ%20stop.wmv

Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

And GIF animations:

http://www.new4stroke.com/differstop.gif

Regards Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

In my oscillating dynamo I help cellular telephone IC Lm 2621.
(http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=66&t=157463&i=180)
May be cellular telephone need advanced mechanic?? ;-)

If put in cellular telephone mechanic automatic movement,using in mechanic clock, and miniature electric generator drive it, we don't need charge cellular telephone.Phone will be loaded on our result of traffic, obvious as there will be in our pocket

Some parts and principle work of automatic movement:

http://www.new4stroke.com/rotor-016.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/reverser-9953.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/movement-036.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/iwc_5000_pellaton.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/20.gif

Perhaps, we must use e.g. 6 such systems, in order to can be charge phone goods .?
Same philosophy : no one big , many little.


May be Swiss precision it will astonish again .;)

My propose for yacht: On highest point of mast instead of flag,for example,box belongs to place with such array: 20 pcs X 20 pcs X 60 pcs systems (50 cm x 50cm x 30 cm). All 24000 system's. And I think, so enough for made electric energy for yacht. Without any fuel.

There is possible build closest house fiberglass mast too and we insert dynamo in this highest place. When wind blows this e.g 15 meter mast too have some movement.
Without barrier for birds , and no sound effect. And looks better ;-)

Andrew :-D:-D

[Viper]

You should find some sponsors and produce that stuff...

You remind me of macguyver, without the hairdo.

Edit: Just to make clear: You REALLY should produce some of that stuff. Seems like a really genious way to produce electricity.

[Feliks]

My propose new
Differential Gear. I'ts first design.

http://www.new4stroke.com/dffeful.jpg

Without any cogged gear, and if we will employ oiled lubrication solid ball bearing (closed), then work is possible without oil oiling .Polyurethane HD belt.
I am some, that such will work without that noises differential .;-)

Regards Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

My friend ( architect and musician) has said that it distrusts springs." Because if it can crack, then sometime it will crack sure." I agre with his think:


http://www.new4stroke.com/gound2.jpg




And my vision Pack of oscillating dynamo:



http://www.new4stroke.com/oscillating%20block.jpg



Regards Andrew;)

[Altarir]

My friend ( architect and musician) has said that it distrusts springs." Because if it can crack, then sometime it will crack sure." I agre with his think:


http://www.new4stroke.com/gound2.jpg



Regards Andrew;)

not a bad idea, but the way a spring moves when compressed and then released is much easier to predict than how waves will move on water in a closed container. Besides, a spring is a bit lighter, cheaper, easier to build and smaller than this. Still that seems like a good place to start further development.

[Feliks]

not a bad idea, .... Still that seems like a good place to start further development.

Yes, discus about advantages and disadvantages of spring a re start
Some video, what spring of poped can make :-)

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/high_speed_video/mechanisms/MERC_valve_spring_close-up_1000vs6000rpm_3000fps.wmv

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/high_speed_video/mechanisms/MERC_valve_spring_tests_coils_removed_3500-6000rpm_1000fps.wmv

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/high_speed_video/mechanisms/MERC_valve_spring_tests_1000-6000rpm_1000fps.wmv

I thik, so pistons valve , and rod eliminate this "play sprig".
Mass too is better solutions.

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Farthest development at one pivot stand differential animations, but this time about 180 degrees removed rod. Permutation is possible about 90 degrees definitely too.My be It's help if torque will not have a linear relationship But which setup will be better, as yet, I do not know
To develop simile Torsen torque biasing and traction management too.

http://www.new4stroke.com/differstop180.gif



You see this animations?


http://www.new4stroke.com/new4strokegreek2.gif

Andrew:-)

[Viper]

Do you actually develop these things for work or is this a hobby?
Do any of these things actually get built?

[Feliks]

You know last time my distaste for transmission cogged ??
Visit Ricardo Company -http://www.ricardo.com/engineeringservices/newEnergy.aspx?page=windturbinegearboxengineering I see many problem with it.

My solve: Wind motion my oscillating dynamo packs, without any cogged transmission:


http://www.new4stroke.com/wiatrak.gif



Regards Andrew :-D

[NKVD]

when we start posting engineering drawlings it must be a good topic... :)

[Feliks]

But if you no like oscillating dynamo , I have my proposes without this:
Name Beam Dynamo.


http://www.new4stroke.com/beam%20dynamo.jpg




http://www.new4stroke.com/beam%20pumnp.jpg



http://www.new4stroke.com/pump.jpg




http://www.new4stroke.com/kansas%20pump1.jpg



Such type of pump has been born for too, that produce electric current from marine waves can .
Under-sea fields with energy?


Regards Andrew:-D

[Viper]

Producing power from the energy of the sea is something that should have been researched and executed for a long time by now. It's a pity that it's only just begun.

[Feliks]

Producing power from the energy of the sea is something that should have been researched and executed for a long time by now. It's a pity that it's only just begun.

And I pull next....


In Beam Dynamo we can change input data using set off pulles.

This pull my story:You know last time my distaste for transmission cogged ??


http://www.new4stroke.com/beam%20pump%20multi%20rolle.jpg


First principle pulles:

http://www.new4stroke.com/pulles.jpg


Regards Andrew :drive:

[Feliks]

You know , if dreams me diesel helicopter? :mrgreen:



http://www.new4stroke.com/helicopter.gif

Regards Andrew:-D

[James_1]

Producing power from the energy of the sea is something that should have been researched and executed for a long time by now. It's a pity that it's only just begun.
It began over here in the 70's, and then the government was bribed into stopping development. Google the "duck".
BTW my (admittedly non-standard) Mini has a 11:1 compression ratio.
Needs to have it too, because of the hot camshaft that's in it.
It's NOT meant to make it more efficient...
But it is making it more efficient, you are getting more power from the same sized engine as a result:-D

[bozont]

With "cylinder" and popped...

http://www.new4stroke.com/walki.jpg



this works similar to a very old omega engine invented in 1950-56 . i post some pics if i find it:)

[Feliks]

What is this?

http://www.new4stroke.com/wiatrakh.gif

Andrew:-D:-D:-D

[Viper]

Your diesel helicopter that you posted a few posts above?

[Feliks]

No, please, about next assumption :-)

In break, that bore next animation :

Big Boy with Stephenson Second engine are going.

http://www.new4stroke.com/halfsteam4.gif
Ride it where ?

Andrew :mrgreen:

ps Need new electronic valave drive system.

[Feliks]

Advantages of half rotate pumps are additional possible regulations.
In normal piston pump, we have two elements definition pumps – diameter of piston and stroke piston In half rotate pump we have too same elements: diameter “piston” and long “piston” and additional important possible regulations TORQUE of drive pump on arm with some hole... This same on crankshaft side
This regulation are without additional gear .
For salt water I think better solution made aal this pump PCW , or ABS, or propose - ceramic


http://www.new4stroke.com/half%20pump.jpg



Regards Andrew :-D

[daseteam]

You know , if dreams me diesel helicopter? :mrgreen:



http://www.new4stroke.com/helicopter.gif

Regards Andrew:-D

Whirlybirds go green
Transport: Switching to diesel engines could make helicopters, and other aircraft, more efficient and less damaging to the environmentSep 4th 2008
:thumbup:

[daseteam]

Transport: Switching to diesel engines could make helicopters, and other aircraft, more efficient and less damaging to the environment

THE ability to take off and land vertically, and to hover, makes helicopters useful machines. Unfortunately, because they lack fixed wings to help provide lift, they are also expensive to operate. Helicopters need powerful engines to drive their rotors, and that means they use a lot of fuel. So could they benefit from one of the developments being used to make car engines more efficient—a switch to diesel fuel? EADS, Europe’s aerospace giant, seems to think they could. One of its subsidiaries, Eurocopter, has begun work on a diesel-powered helicopter. Makers of fixed-wing aircraft are also looking at diesel engines, in small planes at least, where they show promise as a serious alternative to standard piston engines, which run on a high-octane form of petrol.
The first diesel-powered aircraft, a modified Stinson, took to the air in 1928. But even though diesels were tried out in airships and some early Junkers bombers, they never really caught on. Their chief drawback was their weight. Both of a diesel’s big advantages on the ground—its efficiency and its torque (pulling power)—are the result of its high compression of the fuel-air mixture in its cylinders. The resulting high pressure, however, requires a big, heavy engine to contain it. That is why diesels have traditionally been used mostly in heavy machines, such as locomotives and lorries.
Now the weight penalty is starting to diminish. New casting and manufacturing methods can produce lighter, stronger components. Computerised fuel-injection has improved diesels’ performance, and their inherent strength means they can be turbocharged to boost power even further. As a result, many of the least thirsty cars now on the road have diesel engines. And these same advances are being exploited in a new generation of diesel engines for use in small fixed-wing aircraft.
Diamond Aircraft, an Austrian firm, is making a diesel-powered light aircraft which it says uses just 17 litres of fuel an hour, instead of the 35 litres that a similarly sized plane with a traditional piston engine would consume. General Atomics, a Californian company, has performed a similar trick. It has begun supplying diesel-powered versions of its Predator unmanned aerial vehicle, known as Sky Warrior, to American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Sky Warrior is intended for long-range reconnaissance missions, rather than as a weapons platform.
Eurocopter, meanwhile, has proposed fitting an advanced, turbo-charged diesel engine into one of its EC120 helicopters. Normally this aircraft, like many commercial helicopters, is powered by a jet-turbine engine that runs on kerosene. (Only the smallest helicopters still use piston engines.) Guillaume Faury, Eurocopter’s engineering chief, hopes to have a prototype diesel EC120 flying by 2012. If it works well enough, the company might build a twin-engined version, too.
Eurocopter calculates that although an unloaded diesel EC120 would still be heavier than a jet-turbine version, it would use less fuel per kilogram lifted. This would not bring much benefit on short flights, but on longer ones (say, two or three hours) the weight of the extra fuel needed for the jet turbine would compensate for the inherent heaviness of the diesel engine, meaning that the diesel would offer significant fuel savings. That would make diesel helicopters ideal for missions such as search and rescue, and border patrols. For the whirlybirds at least, this would be less thirsty work

[Feliks]

In large scale are better see advantages or disadvantages :) :)

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Sulzer.jpg



One Grek man , help me and free make some pretty animations: when coursor up -Hi PPM when down Low RPM.

www.new4stroke.com/images/new4stroke.exe
www.new4stroke.com/images/new4stroke_around.exe

Regards Andrew:)
Dear daseteam, did you have apprehend this drawing in scale right?

This diesel is dimension and smallest than traditional cargo several times.
One more time, see on dimension:

http://www.new4stroke.com/rotor1.jpg


And most important case not requirement complicated , expensive and for rotor heavy cogged transmission, which is turned only 200 RPM .
This diesel too have 200 rpm, and drive rotor without transmision .This two advantages inspire you write new story about this .
Your is written history try old perfectly, so, you will describe it after apprehension with facility this new .:wink:

Regards Andrew:drive:

[KampferAs]

Helicopters like the Eurocopter B4 and most others use "Jet A" which is Kerosene (almost the same as Diesel) with lots of additives...

http://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfacts/sources/non-renewable/images/refinery.gif

[Feliks]

A bit nostalgia, for specially cross-heads and high precision of execution of cylinder
http://www.new4stroke.com/walschaerts_motion.gif

Regards Andrew

[NKVD]

so thats how a steam locomotive works....interesting

[Feliks]

Without any cogged gear .Last I don't prefer cogged gear.
Animation drive truck without any cogged wheel.
Rod differ, two clutch ( maybe hydraulic)and half rotate engine ,same parameters "Hercules C130" - Vintake= 250 liter. Without any gearbox.
For truck are good parameters.

http://www.new4stroke.com/truckhalfrotate5.gif

Regards Andrew:-D

[AndreiRS]

Wow nice, just a newbie question: All that mass on the "cylinder" will not generate a lot of momentum? In righ RPMs... And the combustion is alternated in a cross (X) or 2 explosions on one side then after on the other?

[GRAVITY]

Can you burn hydrogen in a regular IC engine, Does it need any modifications other than A high pressure tank and approprate piping?

[Feliks]

My grandfather worked as engineer on railroad .......
Unfortunately, it has died before I have been born ..


http://www.new4stroke.com/handcar.jpg

Andrew:-)

[Feliks]

:-DWhat is this?

http://www.new4stroke.com/wiatrakh.gif

Andrew:-D:-D:-D

This is a hydraulic pump of widmill.:-D:-D

Manner of utilization is next my proposal instead of mechanical transmission
in producing windmills electric current :Hallf Rotete Pump
Main principle of operation on following drawing and has enclosed animation
Solution has many advantages from haf rotate pump. Expensive
substitute is first most important and noisy, emergency transmission
of mechanical windmill .
It is presented next advantage on former drawing
for one dynamo driven manner of connection
of whole farm of windmill hydraulic engine serious too.
This way, we save several most expensive elements of windmills,
treating such farm windmill as integrity .( Complex design)

http://www.new4stroke.com/wiarafarm.jpg

Regards Andrew Santa Claus:-D:-D

[Feliks]

Nihil nove sub sole.

Star hydraulic or oscillating dynamo.
http://www.new4stroke.com/star.jpg

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Viper]

Does that work? Are all those rods long enough?

[AndreiRS]

Good point. I was thinking this but didn't know how "to express". I was looking for some very technical explanation, but yours is very good and simple. :thumbup:

[Feliks]

Star engines were characterized biggest always force density


http://www.new4stroke.com/starhalfrotate5.gif

Happy New Year Andrew:D

[Viper]

So you need chambers with different rotations for that to work. Looks like a complex build.

[Feliks]

Some advantages "cylinder/piston"design:
1.
Significant smallest mass a lot turning, but that goes behind it, masses of inertia are small for such such array. For example, for one kit one ( four cylinder ) only rod.
Due to capability behind assistance of joint in pivot of crush many cylinder, for 16 even " cylinder ", one remains further only rod.


Mass is put in majority also near pivot of turn " crush " very, that causes that power of inertia are relatively small .

Theoretical exemplar it on inertie :
Largeness depends on pivot in square on distance . But main mass is concentrated this "piston" pivot of turn near , rally will be relatively small inertia.


In amount, waste of mass so significant reflexive , for the same jumping capacity of conventional engine and my, boost of physical efficiency causes, but that goes for decrease of expenditure of fuel it.
Facility of cooling of crush also, through feeding of water by pivot of turn of crush, and then, excellent cooling , it makes it possible boost of degree of compressing ( proficiency ), but, at low emission NOx.
All these above-mentioned advantages, they cause that this solution has better physical proficiency has significantly, than conventional .



2.
Considerable advantage of such solution, easiest technology of execution is about many "piston/cylinder ". Cylinder, it does not need exact processing very, as nothing slides after it, it can be executed as extracted from aluminum profile , in ready for service version .Accuracy of execution is in this case completely enough. Inaccidentally of aluminum cast, there would be ready without no engine processing for use it .
However, it requires "piston" on generall purpose machines polishing only.
This technology is cheapest about many, than hitherto existing, it required which (proceeding ,polishing) machine.General repair of engine relies on exchange also only seals, "piton" and ball bearings, without taking out crakcase .

3.
And most important advantage
All can be closed in this engine type ball bearings.It signifies with solid lubrication in means. (the same type as in wheel of cars ball bearings). So, all can work without traditional oil. Possibly, crunching requires oiling crush of /cylinder only. But it to very minimal amount, because crunching only just.
If we will employ array on piston e.g. Teflon- (surface of piston only) stainless steel,
ceramic - stainless steel, or ceramic -ceramic(lubrication water),or similar arrays, it will work without oil engine completely oiling.For diesels, I think, that it will enough oiling diesel fuel .
Thus, whole crank case, it can be opened completely and there to be cooled swimming air.

4.
Due to outsized margin of "piston in cylinder", any kind of deforming thermal or mechanical, will not have critical meanings as conventional engines so .

This my solution has such advantages in generality " cylinder/piston "

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[BigTam]

Localised heat management is going to be devilish hard to get done well judging by the configuration - special alloys maybe?

[Feliks]

Opposite too RB211 engine:

60 „cylinder” star half rotate engine parameters:
Diesel engine, sum 250-liter work volume, 4000 RPM,

20 000 KW, 170 g/KWh.--- 5,8 KW/ KG, full power: 3,5 Ton /h

250 L / 15 =16 liter work /4 cylinder x 2 = ~~ 32 liter full cylinder volume dimmer

long cylinder about 300 mm .(3 dcm), 32 / 3 = 10,5 dcm^2 S cylinder

10,5 / 3, 14 = 3,34 (r^2) r = sqrt 3,34 =1,8 dcm (180 mm) d cylinder = 360 mm

Sum D = 900 mm , long =1200 mm, d cylinder = 360 mm
V all engine = 4,5 x 4,5 =20,25 x 3,14 =53,5 (S dcm) x 12 =642 dcm^3

All weight (aluminum) 642 liter –250 liter =392 liter x 3,5 KG =1372 KG ( 1,37 Ton max weight) ~ ~ ~ ~ 2 Tones weight. . And birds no afraid :)

http://www.new4stroke.com/star60.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/604.gif


Regards Andrew :mrgreen::mrgreen:

P.s. If you need next 60 cylinders in left side ?? ;)

[Feliks]

In my latest solving the oscillatory dynamo, a diode who exchanged the changeable oscillatory electricity for the electricity about the permanent polarity was crucial element
Such an element fulfilling identical functions as the diode exists in the hydraulics of theses. There is a valve one-sidedly letting it in to water. it is opening for example only then when the pressure from the feeding side exceeds certain described by the threshold e.g. 10 bars. When the pressure is on the feeding side it is smaller, the valve is closing it oneself. and doesn't allow for moving back waters.

The principles of operation are the same like at pumping the bicycle wheel up with pump, but will refer to water. In this way we can hold. in the pipeline pressure e.g. 10 bars, and from leaking out of the pipeline who will be above the pump e.g. 100 meters will be sailing out water.
The one straight line I decided to use the principle for the production of the electric current with the help of sea waves. Although he is supposed to produce the electricity, it is being imported these are for inflating the problem waters sea into the container with water sea e.g. to height 100 of meters, or similar (e.g. on high cliff seashore). The rest is known and professionally made as the normal power station aqueous, but in this case she will be to sea brine. isn't buying it special one should actually solve the difference, only a matter of the precipitated corrosion .


Particularly that such a very similar solution was already on an island applied Okinawa, in the version of the power station pumped storage (but pumping into the container with the help of the electric energy- classic pumped storage).

Into my to pump the version this brine there will be sea waves driving water pumps with valves with diodes into the container Leaking in water only in direction of the container. pipes from pumps into the container will also have middle diameter, in order to in the time of whom from valves, not to waste the energy from different good pumps. Unfortunately the number can reach such pipes even 1000, at the productivity every e.g. 1 m^ 3 / sec.
But by it we can get the power of such a power station 1000 of the MW .

Costs of making such a power station will also be smaller, since for her devices won't have to pump water into the container how it is in classical power stations of this type. Machines will be so like by a normal hydroelectric power plant straight lines and no high cost.

http://www.new4stroke.com/salt%20water%20pumped%20storage.pdf

http://www.new4stroke.com/Okinawa.jpg

Also shortened descriptions Polish pumped - storage to slight differences of the water levels (100 m) is describing http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=66&t=157463&i=260 or
http://www.new4stroke.com/plants.pdf


Gross from many centuries of coasts England and Ireland they were attacked by marine waves .
People built obstacle for these waves sometimes, that they did not prevent from life on islands.
I think that would end this immemorial war goods , and invite this ocean on coast, but that it is high, it belongs it help. It belongs to take advantage it waves, in order to they pumped on its high coast of water.
I think, so around England , Ireland , North America ,shall made this power plant.
More belongs to place in ocean for water pomp e.g.

Pistons type , or my idea half rotate, which will drive usual floats clinched for they behind assistance of rope. Ordinary belongs to place behind each pump bolts, which will be opened e.g. at 10 kG/cm2 (Acting similar for diode I my oscillating dynamo) and which for collect tubes for reservoir on high coast miss water drive it.
Collecting tube should for example for flow 1 m3/sec 0,6 m have diameter.

http://www.new4stroke.com/aaa4t.gif

http://www.new4stroke.com/pompa11.gif
http://www.new4stroke.com/storage.JPG

For achievement in such this collecting tube of flow 1 m3/sec and 10 bar , requirement 12 pump wanted for transport water on according to following specification 100 m height too reservoir.

Pump reconciles, for simplification about normal piston, should have 0,6 m diameter, and 3 m of height. During average jump of rippling 2 m, it will give during one cycle for composite tube 0,5 m3 water pushed (S= 28 dcm2 H= 20 dcm (2 meter) = 560 dcm3 (liter). For set up flow 1 m3, TWO such pumps should pump for collecting tube.
For proper fabrication of pressure on exit of pump ( set up 10 bar ), wanted proper swimmer is.
There is simple account surface of piston of pump will together page (S) x 100 surface of swimmer.
In my example, surface of piston of pump it 28 dcm2, it signifies that swimmer)should have 2800 dcm2. In order to swimmer had such surfaces, it must have 20 m diameter, and definitely 1 m of height. It needs one kit about 12 pumps 12 swimmers 20 m each diameter, or about dimension one swimmer 12 x28 m2= 336 m2.

For behavior some reasonable spans, it is possible to accept, that for such array for production capacity 1 m3/sec 10 bar, wanted near 700 m2 place rippling sea .

Need for continuous supplying tank for power station theoretically 700 m3/s (716 MW , 100 m height ) requirement 700 x 700m2 = 490000 m2 rippling sea . It is theoretically only 700 m x 700 m !, when 2 m average heights of waves.


Here, mathematical enumeration same only:

To 1m3/ sec
1 m^3/sec 10 bar(H=100m ), 600 mm diameter pipe and piston pump, S= 28 dcm2 Hwave= 20 dcm (2 meter) = 560 dcm3 (litre) for 1 m3 need 2 piece . but period are 6 sec , sum 6x 2 = 12 piece pump .

S pump= 28 dcm2 , 10 bar, F =28 T, Hfloat >1m, S float ~~=2800 dcm2 (28 m2) , D float =~~20m
12 piece x28m2 =336 m2 ~~ =100m x 7m using area =700 m2

700 MW (700 m3/sec), H=100m
700 m2 x 700 = 350000 m2 . ~~700m x 700m area of wave



As elements are presented from marine waves over system production current professional , they are built in the world already and test, additional requirement of experience for their building not.
Another, very important information in relation to the system. System the one should be only as storage, rather than storage-pumped what significantly the height of investments will lower in comparing to current answers. Costs will only be so like for an ordinary hydroelectric power plant
Only water pumps with valves (diode) can so that touch up still and selected materials. but in general, it is piston pump known for the antiquity. Summing up, mechanical problems are solved, and with the appropriate swing one should only build such a power station.
The degree of the safety of such containers will also be very high, since put very close the sea, in case of the breakdown of unsealing, they won't cause heavy losses, since water quickly will find its way back to the sea.

I think that wonderful geographical conditions will permit on high cliff Scotland England and Ireland, to build such containers into whom sea, highest waves will be pumping brine on average in world a lot. it means that the efficiency of such a system will be most effective in world, and therefore built containers should be around these countries what in the future can guarantee the green energy for all countries Europium.

Regards Andrew:mrgreen::mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Above I described power stations to Zarnowiec about the power of 720 megawatts, and the size of her upper container

But this size of the container will suffice for the cycle 5.5 an hour long, that is through 5.5 hour we can receive 720 megawatts of the power. But if the productivity of pumped sea water is sufficient, for keeping the fluidity of the move cycle 2 hour will be enough for us an hour long.
Then about such a size we can obtain 2000 MW from the container .A by supporting the stormy weather even 4000 MW, if installed devices will let it.

On shallow water it is necessary to use half- rotate of the pump .

In of Ewas to Żarnowiec at present the employed is 114 - here with it:
three members of the management board,
29 engineering-technical employees,
59 paid housemen hourly,
9 economic employees,
10 administrative attendants.

Regards Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

In normal piston pump, we have two elements definition pumps – diameter of piston and stroke piston In half rotate pump we have too same elements: diameter “piston” and long “piston” and additional important possible regulations TORQUE of drive pump on arm with some hole... This same on crankshaft side
This regulation are without additional gear .


Some adwantages:
http://www.new4stroke.com/half%20pump.jpg

For salt water I think better solution made all this pump PCW , or ABS, or propose - ceramic

Or to exchange these holes for the smoothly regulated shoulder e.g. with stepping motor driving the thread.....

It is the simplest manner of the fluid adjustment of the productivity of the pump .

Really the new system could replace the traditional injection pomp (pistons) of Diesel of the type Bosch???

Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Whether American landscape views will appear on Nord Atlantic? Every so water sphere about the capacity of 2000 m 3, and the height 100 m can give power 10 MW for 3 minutes. If filling pumps water with the one I believe loss is managing to fill waters up, we will have it 10 MW driven with sea waves of the electric power.
Building 100 such pieces believe power 1000 of the MW will give it to us it is so much, how many two small atomic power stations. But obvisious it will be green energy. So far windmills only had so for faith, and perhaps now will be finished with the Sphere?
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM6E5
http://www.worldstallestwatersphere.com/?cat=4
http://taylortank.com/default.aspx

Regards Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

The issue very much often raised, important for aviation :
Yeah I just wanted to clarify this matter of the weight "be greater" for my solution.
She is very often raised, as the lack of the advantage of my engine.
And it is of course the untrue, but intellectual ‘box’ are ordering to think so, that it is a truth.
As a token of it I did taking off the weight on which I put the valve with the spring and spring retainer(witout retainer locks) diametef full phi 32 mm ( diameter canal 30 mm),
And I other side Piston , rod, pin,and two rings diameter 38 mm , what is a greater dimension than a valve has him considerably.
In spite of it, in the photograph done by me clearly one can see, that much he is heavier unite the valve.
If not you believe, go to scrap, find and take the piston with the connecting rod from the old lawnmower and about the same diameter valve with the spring from some car engine.. I think that you will be not having to use scales, because after taken into one hand piston, and into second of valve, you will be sure knew what was heavier.

If now will add to the moving weight of valve ( the reciprocating mass) rocker arm, mecanical regulations of clearance valve (or very heavy hydraulic valve lifter( tappet)) taped (ewentualy push rod). it sure it will turn out that the weight of the valve is twice as bigger from set piston –rod same diameter.

However, that's not all in relation to the weight.
He is reaching to valves static weight so things like valve quide in heads, and rocker arm shaft.
One should also add the weight not chosen materials of the head, about the diameter piston. and lengths of his cylinder.
For lowering static mass of the engine one should add the lack bolts for screwing the head, since altogether cylinders around wit cylinder valves it is possible easily to make one-piece steel out, and then aren't needed bolts to the head together with threaded with their nests.
Adding this static reducing the weight, we receive altogether the piston valve is three times lighter than the traditional valve.!!

And greatest loss of engine mass.Piston valves mass, at the same diameter like valves, they cause that he is arriving about 15 % of jumping volume of the engine. That is mass of the engine is also reducing about 15 %.

In net part all about termal efficiency.I am only attention, so most important in combustion chamber, are TEMPERATURE elements.


http://www.new4stroke.com/weight.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/weight1.jpg

Andrew:-)

[Feliks]

All detail about photo:

Poped Valve : weight only poped,springs,taper all 176,5 Gram.
Diameter 32 mm
diameter open gap 28,5 mm.

Piston with rods, pin, two rings , weight 160,5 Gram
Diameter 38 mm - it's 25% more poped in diameter( some weight are they grow with the square of the radius) . Gap 38 mm .



http://www.new4stroke.com/weight2.jpg


Such a difference, that for the stability, one should add the biggest weight from the set to this scale

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

And now small warning for future designers of my idea engine. What problems clearly apparently they will have to deal with. It is an effect of ten-times increasing the power in relation to the mass-produced fiat.126 engine. During this attempt turnovers didn't exceed 3500 RPM one can see , but effects

http://www.new4stroke.com/korba.jpg

Shows it has become with polished rod on photo .It color has been changed on result of temperature on bearing on blue .Of course, at present everything is exchanged and the engine is sending for the demonstration of his work.

Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

[CX650]

And now small warning for future designers of my idea engine. What problems clearly apparently they will have to deal with. It is an effect of ten-times increasing the power in relation to the mass-produced fiat.126 engine. During this attempt turnovers didn't exceed 3500 RPM one can see , but effects

http://www.new4stroke.com/korba.jpg

Shows it has become with polished rod on photo .It color has been changed on result of temperature on bearing on blue .Of course, at present everything is exchanged and the engine is sending for the demonstration of his work.

Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

My apologies, but English please. I understand that you are trying but...

[Viper]

I'm fairly certain that he's using a translator such as Babelfish.

There's not a single misspelt word in his texts.

[Feliks]

My apologies, but English please. I understand that you are trying but...


Yes Sir!
Unfortunately I don't remember so that to the same schools we walk. Since it won't be possible to move this course of events back, following solving the problem proposes the rally: a text will be a meaning text of my publications in Polish. I will always make this text available in the Iink form to the Polish lingque in my of publication. For example :Text1.txt (http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Text1.htm)
And on the forum I will try how best I can with the help of Babelfish write in” English ”. If somebody really is interested in a text written by me, and my English is insufficient for full understanding my texts, he will be able to copy the Polish text from this Iink and to give it back for translate by professional translated companies so-called „ Human translated ” as a rule to be connected it unfortunately will be with the payment for such a translation.. But by it it is possible to choose so company which will be answering with quality of explaining to the reader
However, sometimes in the text, can to be concealed contents, or the need of explaining what intentions I had. And here even the professional translation can turn out to be insufficient. therefore in such case I would recommend specialist explaining by people explaining for politicians. Yeah but most probably in this case costs can be considerably bigger, but even in case of such a translation. I am not sure, whether it will actually give all colours back e.g. „ Yes Sir ”

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Higher I described a few fasts way to the autoload of the mobile phone behind the help of the watch mechanism to alone of winding, which driving the electric generator will load the phone call automatically at moves of the phone.
Now I am still presenting one way of solving such a mechanism.
http://www.new4stroke.com/w1.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/w2.jpg


At putting in the mobile phone let us say six of such mechanisms, it should be enough to holding the phone in the readiness to work and the stand-by.
But for all certainty that we will always be they could use the phone, even when long he was in the stillness he proposes to add the handmade knob for winding such a mobile phone up, similarly he is like it in watches with such a mechanism. Then we will already always be sure that we will be able to use our phone, because of it we will wind lichen by hand, and then really we will get the full independence from the electric current and the traditional battery charger.

http://www.new4stroke.com/phone.jpg

At the amount of mobile phones 1000 000 000 which everyone is downloading from let's say 1 Watt, we will save it of current in the height of 1000 MW.

Regards Andrew :-D:-D

Particularly how you will go to the long fell-walking and you will get lost
Text2.htm (http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Text2.htm)

[Feliks]

Weight piston and valve same diameter - 62 mm
Right now without springs. Only retainers.


http://www.new4stroke.com./weight3.jpg

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

http://www.uncells.com/

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/03/pic2.jpghttp://www.uncells.com/]

Regards Andrew:thumbup::thumbup:

[Feliks]

So that you get rid of the doubt next photographs with accurate data :


http://www.new4stroke.com/weight4.jpg

Diameter popped 75 mm , diameter piston 76.5 mm

Right now are you shure ?? Any washes.

http://www.new4stroke.com/twopistons.jpg

Weight popped 75 mm 1000 G
weight piston & rod 76.5 mm 850 G
weight popped 62 mm 400 G
weight piston & rod 62 mm 370 G

But the window of the flight of the valve of 75 mm is only 64 mm, what is very similar to the window of the flight piston 62 mm .

That is it results from it that the valve of 75 mm is giving the same flight as the piston 62 mm that is 1000 G to 370 G !!!!!

==~~ 2.5 more weight popped to piston& rod !!

It only looks impossibly. but this way is.:D


http://www.new4stroke.com/poped.jpg


In principle ,for them greater popped/piston diameter, it is this difference in weight will be to the benefit of pistons.




Since when the keg came into existence, for it is her shipping by ships constituted a spot of bother. That is how, they forgot to attach, while swinging the ship rolled from one side to other side, hitting in not around with great energy. There was this great danger for the crew. That is how, they forgot to attach, while swinging the ship rolled from one side to other side, hitting in not around with great energy. I decided to use this energy for the production of the electric current with the help of the oscillatory dynamo. It is a pendulum driving the oscillatory dynamo around so with keg. It will be sufficient to install shipboard or for other swimming raft, and during waving we have the electricity, rather than danger
http://www.new4stroke.com/barel400.gif

block of osillating dynamo:

http://www.new4stroke.com/block.jpg


And mutation pendulum dynamo:

http://www.new4stroke.com/pendulum.jpg

Or magnet tooth plate.




http://www.new4stroke.com/pendulum300.gif



So far we exploited the energy arising with the help of the pendulum only for stopping him. :rolleyes:


Clik on picture, see animation

http://ultra.ap.krakow.pl/~ogar/elektromagnetyzm/wahado_waltenhofena.html

Regards Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

It is a next mutation of the swaying pendulum around it pivot :


http://www.new4stroke.com/caly400.gif

And it is a conception of containing inside box a dozen or so of such pendulums giving the electricity under the influence of moving. Of course completely hermetically sealed box.

http://www.new4stroke.com/oceanwavve.jpg

It is next my proposal to use sea waves for the production of the electric current


Regards Andrew :-D

[Viper]

AAAAH, now I see what it's for. :)

[Feliks]

Now all tubules in one time are giving the energy from the move of the pendulum


http://www.new4stroke.com/PCB.jpg

And on the other side pendulums a next PCB set can also be. Altogether it for example 1000 pieces of coils and magnets of sets can be. Every coils is giving 1 watt.

Regards Andrew :-D

Good alternate on flywheel ? ( turning the principle away perhaps of theses to be starter ( Large stepper motor)):thumbup:

Linear stepper (http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/ph/p/id/133#toc1)
Stepper basic (http://www.shinano.com/xampp/docs/Stepper%20Motor%20Operation%20&%20Theory.pdf)

[Feliks]

[QUOTE=Feliks;850970]Now all tubules in one time are giving the energy from the move of the pendulum ..........

Good alternate on flywheel ? ( turning the principle away perhaps of theses to be starter ( Large stepper motor)):thumbup:

QUOTE]

Now I will show and I will explain the rule of operation my new dynastarter :


http://www.new4stroke.com/flywheel.jpg


Next on hard PCB put some coils end electronics.
Every so the "green cylinder" has the magnet, two coils with shuffled teeth for the half of their size of the division, a bit electronics of the type small bridge on mossfets, securities on varistors electronics controlling generate the electricity . Current on each coil about 5 Ampers menage mossfets.
Everything controled of course with microprocessor .


http://www.new4stroke.com/greenpin.jpg



It is put on this hard PCB plate about 150 of such arrangements with coils and the electronics parts

http://www.new4stroke.com/view.jpg



everyone so complet of elements is decreeing with 5 amperes, rally if to do about 150 pieces of these elements and to put them on this PCB tile, we can manage about 750 amperes what should completely be enough for the warming up the engine. Receiving the electric current in the same way for charging a battery is already a banally simple matter.

http://www.new4stroke.com/view1.jpg

I think, that such PCB it "Automotive mother board" the same "Automotive mother board" is replacing the alternator and the starter. Flywheel still is always in the engine.

http://www.new4stroke.com/alldynastarter.jpg


Principe as same , but in disc version linear stepper (http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/ph/p/id/133#toc1)

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Pcb are possible in 2 half part.

http://www.new4stroke.com/half.jpg

Two multicore ribbon cable, and sensitive electronics put outside of hot engine.
On PCB only magnets and coils , and nonsensitive electronics filled with resin.

Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

So far I didn't still deal with a brake system of the car .

Without any interference in a brake system existing so far, I will prolong his work live at least twice .
So so:
Do you know electric retarder in big truck and buses?
When they applied the ones electric retarder in these cars, consuming the part of a brake system it diminished repeatedly .
Rght now are possible using this retarder in little passengers cars
That is, when this my new idea ,will be applied dynastarter, one should also equip him with the function electric retarder. Namely, with the help of a brake pedal, at first to give the electricity on the one dynastarter with a view to braking for them, and only then, when braking will be this way insufficient, a brake pedal will start a traditional brake system .

This dismisser which will be possible for the accomplishment on dynastarter, will be acting on a bit of an other principle than electric retarderin lorries. That is, provided electricity to dynastarter, will be producing the braking torque similar to the holding torque in stepping motors.

I think, around when drivers will have the big red diode in the car ,led which will be becoming when traditional brakes are starting acting, they will be supposed this way to suppress ambitions so that she doesn't become , that is a traditional brake system is out of work. I think that an entire brake system used this way will be enough on all life of the car, without any exchanges of him parts friction.

This asolutely new function of new dynastarter.

Regards Andrew:-)

[Feliks]

Principe oscillating disc dynamo (pendulum)


Red Pin :

http://www.new4stroke.com/redpin.jpg




http://www.new4stroke.com/view%20dynamo.jpg




http://www.new4stroke.com/pendulum%20dynamo.jpg




http://www.new4stroke.com/pack1.jpg





http://www.new4stroke.com/wavebox.jpg



Regards Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

Or swimmer too....

http://www.new4stroke.com/swimmer.jpg

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Now I will describe the entire technology of modification swimmer.

Made a cheap swimmer :

1.To buy old sea containers.

2. Weld some diagonals new part too to improve the stiffness,

3. To paint the container this way modified with method of the bath in rustproof paint.

4 . Put for means container maximum polystyrene foam packed into strong plastic sacks.

5. To close the container tightly.

5. Through the small hole to fill up under the pressure with the foam polystyrene foam.
(automatically expanded one's volume)

6. We have a long time live swimmer weight about 3000 kG , and volume 33 m^3
Sum we have 30 000 KG (30 Ton) displacement force each .

Redy too using In oscillatory dynamo or water pumps make energy.

http://www.new4stroke.com/container.jpg

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

That if to fill all unused spaces up on ships or planes with this polystyrene foam, most probably they stood unsinkable .

Thanks to the fact that it wouldn't be possible to sink them,
a lot of people so that it is possible to rescue.
And next
then to the shipyard it would be possible to tow away .



Recently I noticed ,that the aircraft would be very useful by the ability to swimming
Two days ago :

BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8347913.stm)

tu142 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-142)


If such a shortcut poliuretane foam for construction of such parameters:

http://www.new4stroke.com/896_1.jpg


Specifications specific gravity after hardening 11 - 16 ,3 kg/m3* Base polyurethane Productivity of 825 ml – 66 litres * c 100 mb of the stream about the diameter of 5 2 cm * Pyłosuchość 8 - 10 minutes * Time of processing 15 - 30 minutes * Time of hardening from 5 up to 48 h (full mechanical load capacity) * a free access of air is Necessary. One should not apply foam in rooms closed tightly. Resistance to UV rays weak in outside applications one should shelter the surface of foam from the UV radiation. Structure of cells of c 70 % smoothed, evenly closed cells thermal Resistance after hardening from – 40 ° C to + 90 ° C (short-term to + 140 ° C)


15 bottle give 1 m^3 (1000 litres) cost about 80 $ , this can swimm 1 tones

Tupolew 142 have 80 ton weight 80 x 15 = , need 1200 pieces bottles this foam .


All cost of foam 80 x 80 $= 6400 $.
Whole weight of the foam to allow the total buoyancy such an airplane is 1200 KG
It is only 1% of the total weight of the aircraft.

Wig area is 311 m^2 , 80 m^3/ 312 m^2 = 0,25 m the average amount of surface foam on the inside wings. I think that in this plane is so much unused space.

And such buoyancy of the aircraft would also be found useful for Airbus over the Atlantic, as well as the Boening over Hudson.

Regards Andrew:-)

[HR186S]

Is any of this been done for real? Or is it all just drawings and computer simulations?
I'd like to see the real engine working.

[Feliks]

Is any of this been done for real? Or is it all just drawings and computer simulations?
I'd like to see the real engine working.

Welcome to Krakow...

Andrew

[Feliks]

I see a few places where you can be put the foam.....


http://www.new4stroke.com/skeleton.jpg


1% of the weight is almost the same as error weighting.


Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Straight structure of dynastarter brought the thought to mind for me in order on the similar principle to do electric brakes and the electric assisting engine on the not-drived pivot of the car .
Instead of the flywheel I used the brake disc from one side having small teeth made an incision.

They are also put on the PCB plate green "pins" in the bulk. http://www.new4stroke.com/greenpin.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/discbrake.jpg

Such an arrangement allows on not-drived pivot to carry the electric brake out also. Yeah but very much work opportunities of such an arrangement are also an important case on not-drived pivots, as the electric motor driving wheels directly. Perhaps it won't be such an excellent drive as classical 4 x 4, but in critical situations can replace such a four-drive arrangement. I think that it is possible to name him 2 + 2.

And have a electronic lock.... simile ABS
Regards Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

I very much apologise, but I forgot that on this forum the part of readers had motorbikes......

I propose for them 1+1 system ........

Regards Andrew:-)

Ps.In good taste there would be a use microstepper elctronic for the fluid movement ...

[HR186S]

Welcome to Krakow...

Andrew
Thanks :)
But you didn't answer my question... :?:

[Feliks]

Thanks :)
But you didn't answer my question... :?:

Unfortunately I cannot afford the building site of such a prototype.:thumbdown:



Maby to cover the oil tanker with the “small duvet” for providing him unsinkable ?
The duvet would be made from sea containers filled up with foam, for safety ship.
If she was “too cool”, it is possible to do it her two-tier. Places aboard of oil tanker it is relatively much.
Duvet:
http://www.new4stroke.com/duvet.jpg

And Tanker:

http://www.new4stroke.com/frontlady.jpg

Regards Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

And about half rotate.

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Sulzer.jpg


Star engines were characterized biggest always force density

http://www.new4stroke.com/starhalfrotate5.gif



Below picture of the star half rotate around 10 (40) with "cylinders". for the transparency of the picture one can see only 3 additional "cylinders" more than is at the animated film.
One can also see dimensions of the whole of the engine in the assumption that every cylinder has such dimensions for the picture half rotate with the set connecting rod of the Sulzer D= engine of 900 mm and stroke 2500 mm .

http://www.new4stroke.com/half10.jpg

So 10 (40) "cylindrical" engine half rotate about the same working capacity in comparing to the Sulzer 10 engine cylindrical on the picture below .

Sulzer: 10 Cylinders 20 m long , 15 m hight , 1500 Ton weight

Half rotate star : 10(40) "Cylinders" 4,5 m diameter , 4,5 m long
about 70 ton weight.


http://www.new4stroke.com/sulzer1.jpg


And most importantly.. Since in the engine half rotate mass innertia are several times Sulzer smaller than in the engine, engine half rotate can work with the much greater rotation speed.
Slzer : 102 RPM 60 000 KW

Half rotate 250 RPM 150 000 KW

In same intake work volume .

Regards Andrew:D

Sure the engines of cars will be similar proportions

[Feliks]

Usually from the other side flywheel a clutch is found.. it unfortunately still has a few defects. That is, relatively frequent exchange of the clutch disc, of impression with the spring,and of clutch bearing. it is one of service major repairs. , Mechanical or plumbing steering also often makes his correct action impossible

I thought, that if only an electric current decided on these all cases, it would be perhaps better. After refining details, the clutch without no service work could in order to work through the entire life of the car.
In order to carry the full function of the clutch out, he belongs, so as in previous of my proposal dynastartera, to use "green pins" and radial teeth the flywheel.
http://www.new4stroke.com/greenpin.jpg

Additionally, one should put two (or more) locks, which will steered will be a solenoid, and a spring to enter teeth on the flywheel and to close the clutch mechanically with this flywheel

So that this closing proceeds in a "stress-free way", one should add the electronic sensor which he will be detecting, or the flywheel in relation to the clutch isn't already rotate, and it is possible to put down solenoids controlling locks so that they connect on "hard" these two parts .
It is supposed to be similar acting to the synchronizer of the gearbox

Before the dismissal solenoid,, "green pins" must have the maximum electricity which with pressing a clutch pedal will be reducing. Of course this electricity and steering must reach the clutch through of collector rings, since the clutch is turning.

I think that after good designing and making such a clutch, we are having a chance to the clutch for entire living of the car

http://www.new4stroke.com/cluth.jpg



Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

And about half rotate.

Star engines were characterized biggest always force density

Below picture of the star half rotate around 10 (40) with "cylinders". for the transparency of the picture one can see only 3 additional "cylinders" more than is at the animated film.
One can also see dimensions of the whole of the engine in the assumption that every cylinder has such dimensions for the picture half rotate with the set connecting rod of the Sulzer D= engine of 900 mm and stroke 2500 mm .

So 10 (40) "cylindrical" engine half rotate about the same working capacity in comparing to the Sulzer 10 engine cylindrical on the picture below .

Sulzer: 10 Cylinders 20 m long , 15 m hight , 1500 Ton weight

Half rotate star : 10(40) "Cylinders" 4,5 m diameter , 4,5 m long
about 70 ton weight.

And most importantly.. Since in the engine half rotate mass innertia are several times Sulzer smaller than in the engine, engine half rotate can work with the much greater rotation speed.
Slzer : 102 RPM 60 000 KW

Half rotate 250 RPM 150 000 KW

In same intake work volume .

Regards Andrew:D

Sure the engines of cars will be similar proportions

"Half rotate 250 RPM 150 000 KW "

But we only need 60 000 KW What doing?

Yeah so ,we will reduce dimensions half rotate some 2,5.
This dimension are ~~ 3 m dia and 3 m long, 40 Ton ......

But it then again will give us the possibility of increasing RPM Maybe to 400 RPM?

And next reduce ..... where are border this steps ???

Border is are very small engine ;-)

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

They want to cultivate the Christmas Eve, going behind the tradition in Poland which is telling us that on this special day one should be reconciled with all people which are surrounding us. My wishes of the vision Merry Christmas and modified return to sources that is poped valves.
I think that with traditionalists an approval will also take place in this special day.

My proposal it is modified poped valve which let for very effective picking up the warmth by chilling with intense stream of oil.
Thanks to widening the leading part of the valve to the maximum dimension which can only to fit in the nest , the surface of the joint of the valve with the head repeatedly was increased.
Thanks to widening the leading part of the valve to the maximum dimension which can only to fit in the nest the surface of the joint of the valve with the head repeatedly was increased. much simpler sailing across the warmth causes it to the well chilled head. a here also omitted Valve Guide which is usually of materials worse being a heat conductor than aluminium stayed. the additional crack of the baulk still became the Valve Guide to head liquidated in this new structure of the valve. The new structure allows to move heat to the head very efficiently. with valve quide omitting, and big relatively with area.
In the new structure it is an important thing, that inside valve on 3 / 4 one's length is feeling empty inside and has the enormous area for the exchange of the warm with chilling oil.
Chilling jst oil passed to the middle of the valve with the help of two tubes from which the very intense stream of cooling oil is flowing out.

I think that at such a construction of the valve, the temperature of the valve should not exceed 500 degrees Celsius, and NOx coming into existence in a combustion chamber can be limited about about 80 %

It will also be possible to increase the efficiency of the engine by increasing the degree of tensing, or else there will be no great temperature in a combustion chamber what the significant reduction of self-ignitions will cause, and will cause more laminar burning.

And the most important case. Since temperature of the new valve on 3 / 4 his lengths she should not be bigger than the temperature of the head, it will be possible to resign entirely from devices for placing valve clearance, since the sum of the expandability of the new valve and the expandability of the head will be approximately similar.

therefore keeping valve clearance of manner will be unnecessary as a result of the same complete expandability of the valve and the head.

Below I am describing two models of the latest version of valves, and the disintegration of the temperature on the length in the traditional valve.
http://www.new4stroke.com/Popped10.jpg


http://www.new4stroke.com/popped11.jpg


http://www.new4stroke.com/valwetemp.jpg


Marry Christmas Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

If valves don't need valve clearance , it is the most considerable problem desmodrom will disappear .


Perhaps therefore it is possible to come back to old good desmodrom


Happy New Year, for all Friends.

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

"Salt water extraction"


http://www.new4stroke.com/oil500.gif

http://www.new4stroke.com/pompa.pdf


And sallt water Tank:

http://www.new4stroke.com/Okinawa.jpg


1 m^3 / sec if H = 100 m give ~~ 1 MW ( 1000 KW) electric energy

Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Feliks,

Thanks for starting your thread again.

Please come up with a way to stop the oil gusher in the Gulf of Mexico.

Sincerely,

All of us.

I present my visions to resolve this difficult problem of stopping the oil slick:

You must first prepare a specially made item to seal the leak. It must have a large size that is 60 feet tall and 60 feet in diameter at its widest point. at the bottom of this item, please place a special knife around the bottom edge. Knife must of course be made of very hard material, such that will be able to cut all the metal parts that will be on its way

In his way will certainly be a lot of old items damaged hole.
Of course, that this knife can cut through all the elements needed to operate a very large force.
And here once it wisely:
So, yes, prepared some of the new valves (of course, completely open for the moment) should leave the head in the fire, so was in the middle of that item, the item with the valves can say, weighing about 100 tons. This does not allow the weight placed on its bottom remains the old structure with a knife.
But this element has a conical tank shown in the figure, which is thrown from the vessel through a pipe can fill it with concrete or specific, or a ball of iron. Its dimensions are 60 feet in diameter and 30 height. The size of this "cone" will be about 3,000 cubic meters (m ^ 3).
If you will fill it, for example, iron is its weight increased to approximately 21,000 tonnes. feel that this burden is not cheap, it was a knife to cut all the metal parts that are on the road. Ellement pockets certainly say that the bottom about 20 feet. It will seal.
The next step will be to close the new valve at the top of the item. Later, these valves will work even with the new pipe attached.
I think that despite the high oil pressure is also created so much of the burden will be able to seal the damaged head.


http://www.new4stroke.com/disaster.jpg



I totally do not know to whom to send my solution. So please read his message, where there is a chance that will go into the right hands.
Maybe it will help you seal the leak.

Regards Andrew Feliks:-)

This is the first underwater press cutting iron

[Viper]

Anyone here that knows people at BP? :)

[redi]

http://www.bp.com/multipleimagesection.do?categoryId=9009861&contentId=7018696

[Viper]

Damn, they've even got a complete site dedicated to the spill.
http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/inquiry/2931/

Feliks, could you give me the original Polish text?

I'll see about having a member translate it and I'll send it to BP then.

[Feliks]

Damn, they've even got a complete site dedicated to the spill.
http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/inquiry/2931/

Feliks, could you give me the original Polish text?

I'll see about having a member translate it and I'll send it to BP then.

Polisch text :http://www.new4stroke.com/Polskitext.htm

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Drive for pump or oscillating dynamo:

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/ocean2.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/Heightwave.PDF

Regards Andrew:-)

[Feliks]

Well, who would have thought that Newcomen was so close to an adequate solution ;-)

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Newcomen.gif


http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Halfrotate1.gif

Regards Andrew :-D

[Supra4]

The top one ... how should I put this ...

You heat the water, which then transforms to steam and pushes the piston up due to the pressure increase. Fine, that works perfectly and the principle has been used for decades. The fact that the other arm (and whatever weight is attached to it) is going down, also helps. Basic thermodynamics and gravity are working together on this stroke.

Then you add cold water from the auxiliary tank, which will cool the steam down and make it transfer to water again, thus lowering the pressure and forcing the piston down.
This cooling water won't be just a few drops, you'll need to spray in a considerable amount of water to make it cool down at a decent rate. So you'll either need a large diametre pipe (which will heat more water behind the valve and thus decrease cooling efficiency) or apply the water under high pressure (which is more likely as you need to spray it anyway, but which needs a strong pump and therefor much power to get up to the pressure).
However the weight on the opposite end will be pulled up. So gravity will try to counteract the lower pressure. That's a huge efficiency loss.

Then at the bottom of the stroke you open the valve so the water comes down again and fresh steam enters the "cylinder".
Every time this happens, you'll add a bit to the main water reservoir as the water from the auxiliary tank (the bit you injected to cool the steam down) also goes down. So basically you'll need a small pump to get the extra water back to the auxiliary tank, where it can cool down before being injected into the cylinder.
The amount of water being pumped to the auxiliary tank needs to be very precise, otherwise one of the tanks will eventually run out of water while the other one will be full. So energy is needed for that as well, which will further decrease efficiency.

And finally : Turning water to steam isn't an instant process (unless you superheat it, which requires temperatures in excess of 100°C and enough pressure to stop the water from turning into steam ... which is impossible in this case because it would stop the thing from working alltogether). So the preparation for the upward stroke is going to take some time.

On the downward stroke, the problem is even bigger because the temperature change will need even more time. So both strokes would happen at a completely different pace, which makes it impossible to turn the piston's motion into rotation. You simply couldn't drive a crank like that, so all it'll be good for is pumping.

----

In a nutshell : steam isn't the most effective way to power anything. Otherwise we'd still be using it. What you'll end up with is a big and complicated piece of machinery which will make little power compared to the amount of energy (whatever is heating the water doesn't just pop out of nowhere) it needs to run. And the uses for that power will be very limited.

[Klapaucjusz]

@Supra4: Do you know that you're trying to argue with a man that is dead for almost three hundred years? ;) :P It's a schematic of Thomas Newcomen's steam engine from the beginning of the 18th century.

One more thing - how do you think most of (thermal) power plants work? They are steam-powered. Nuclear ones too.

[Feliks]

One more thing - how do you think most of (thermal) power plants work? They are steam-powered. Nuclear ones too.

http://www.new4stroke.com/efficrpm.jpg

New 4 stroke about 5% to 10% above the top line.

Halfrotate (Twin Felix), about 15% above the highest line:-)

Andrew:-)

[Feliks]

Well, who would have thought that Newcomen was so close to an adequate solution ;-)


I also very close to the Technology
http://www.new4stroke.com/handcar1.jpg

Regards Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

I think that this technology is very effective. Can you imagine that by doing the same movement up and down through the traditional piston-connecting rod-crankshaft to get the same ease the movement of this vehicle?
I think that it would then be much harder work. And these four , the looks on it, they not liked to work more than need....

Can you feel it ??

Regards Andrew:-)

[Feliks]

However and that will had such a good humor, just take a timber and a little grease lubricated.;-)

Do not need any oil !! :-D

Seal or Teflon or lubricated with diesel fuel.

OIl = diesel fuel in this picture

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/image014.jpg



Regards Andrew:-)

[Feliks]

Some new4stroke history:

Print table of Fortran 1982 program.
I could choose from 100 of these tables, each for different angular positions of crakshafts.
Here is one of them:

http://www.new4stroke.com/print.jpg


Working drawing of the head:


http://www.new4stroke.com/headimage.jpg
Regards Andrew:-)

[Feliks]

The first windmills pumped water in America. To sustain this good tradition, I developed a little more modern sytem for the production of electric current in a similar way of pumping water.Whether American landscape views, are water sphere.I decided to add this view to the next shot where the water will be collected water so that it could give electrical energy when draining it back into the lower reservoir.

http://www.new4stroke.com/komplet.jpg


This water will be pumped sphery as in the first versions of windmills, wind.
The wind turbine will move a small diameter, but it is a multi-blade, placed together with the hydraulic pump in the middle of a specially constructed balloon. Balloon will be tethered, as previously barrage balloons.
Only that will go along the line, hydraulic pipes, the hydraulic motor, which will be driven water pump located in the lower reservoir.The water pump will continuously pump water to sphery. Now the water falling from the lower reservoir back to the shery, will do an electric current through hydrogenerator.

http://www.new4stroke.com/balloon.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/Turbine.jpg


Every so water sphere about the capacity of 2000 m 3, and the height 100 m can give power 10 MW for 3 minutes. If filling pumps water with the one I believe loss is managing to fill waters up, we will have it 10 MW driven with wind turbine in balloons.
Of course, the balloons could be filled up by hydrogen, because today we have very good material on the shell.
This system could be installed in any place where electricity is needed, and thus would have limited losses on the transfer.
Also low noise, and the invisibility of the rotating blades, not to interfere in coexistence with the environment.Balloons can be affixed to a height of 150 to 200 meters, where the wind is always blowing on the ground even when there is absolute silence.

some links:
http://media.primezone.com/cache/189/int/8385.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu2glpmRXIs&feature=player_embedded#!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/21/northrop-grumman-wins-contract-to-build-us-armys-long-endurance/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3n5cUaG5fg&feature=player_embedded

Regards Andrew :-):-)

On Saturday is the anniversary of 9 / 11, and make this possible, I decided to share with my good deed ,publication of this study.
http://www.new4stroke.com/911day.jpg
http://www.911dayofservice.org/

[Feliks]

http://www.new4stroke.com/4turbines.jpg

Of course, two rotate in one direction and two in the opposite direction.
You must use a very light hydraulic oil. If it were not frozen in winter.
Hydraulic pump in the balloon has the best power to weight ratio. All the airlines are working on the hydraulic actuators.
Of course, all of the balloon must be tested in the wind tunnel aerodynamic, in order to fully match the efficiency of the 21st century.

Some pictures of how to create a balloon from the inside ;-)

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/turbo.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/windtunnel.jpg


and NASCAR wind tunnel

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/NASCAR.jpg


Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

There is a way to shorten a bit of flexible hydraulic tube...

http://www.new4stroke.com/uwiaz.jpg

Well, if it accidentally escaped gas from the balloon and so it can be;-)

http://www.new4stroke.com/Gass.jpg

Regards Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

Name : Jazz Big Band

http://www.new4stroke.com/JazzBigBand.jpg


Regards Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

Rotating Dixieland Yoda.


http://www.new4stroke.com/Dixieland.jpg


Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Next Dixieland :


http://www.new4stroke.com/building.jpg

In some tubes can be hidden anti-missile ..

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

To those dixielnds can efficiently drive Hydraulic, it may have, no peaks of specialized software, use the links below.

http://www.hippocampus.org/homework-help/Physics-B/Fluid%20Mechanics_Venturi%20Tube%20-%20Simulation.html

http://www.ce.utexas.edu/prof/kinnas/319lab/applets/venturi/venturi.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/accp/al0966/le2.htm

The lower pressure propeller spins quickly ....
And review of the fact that it's not worth double the turbine insert...

Regards Andrew :mrgreen::mrgreen:

[NSRacer]

i don't get the idea of this topic...you guys never heard of 4 stroke engines? dirt bikes have 2 and 4 stroke engines, look at yamaha yz450, kawasaki, honda etc

[Feliks]

Mistake..!!

http://www.new4stroke.com/coller.jpg

Regards Andrew ;-)

[Feliks]

A new way of sailing through a balloon which has the wind, and transmits energy to the propeller using hydraulics

http://www.new4stroke.com/balloonsailing.jpg


And sailing version of the Venturi jets:

http://www.new4stroke.com/Jazzsailing.jpg

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

I simply will look as flat block. It can be cast as a single unit. It did not need the division on the block and head. Because the pistons can be put at the bottom......
It is full 4 stroke engine.

http://www.new4stroke.com/flatblock.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/flatblock2.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/dolnozaworowy.jpg


Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/08/ddwfttw/all/1

My version of car wind.Solo of trumpet

Will test whether it could be faster than the wind... Boat too....

http://www.new4stroke.com/carwind.jpg

You never know what is beyond the present ... :rolleyes:

Ice boat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_boat)

But faster than the wind, it is possible ....

But perhaps the experience of the Ice Race can to help you change the aerodynamics in F1?
But in F1, there are winds above 300 km / h !
Fighter aircraft F-104 starts at a similar velocity. Right then, about 700 KG per 1 square meter load.
If using a well-sculpted are did the 700 KG used to accelerate boild F1 ......

I think that not everything has been said in the aerodynamics of F1.....

700 KG at 1 m^2 - 70 KG forward at 10 dcm^2 aditional F1 wings....

http://www.new4stroke.com/Racecar.jpg

Regards Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

Can it save fuel by using the wings ??

It all depends on how clever way it uses the wing...

Ice Boat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_boat)
Sailing_faster_than_the_wind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing_faster_than_the_wind)


Or, the cyclist can get speed of 200 km / h?
And they like to ride in the peloton?

The Phisics of sailing (http://www.physics.unsw.edu.au/~jw/sailing.html)

Regards Andrew :) :)

[Feliks]

This problem ereting towers
can be resolved with Jazz Big Band. Just half of the turbine rotates in one direction and half in another page.

I did this study in the Venturi nozzle turbine and the calculations have a rather surprising results. Back to front.;)

http://www.new4stroke.com/Venturi1000.jpg

Regards Andrew:-)

[Feliks]

Well, energy is the same at the entrance, like a normal windmill. Only I noticed that the amount of energy produced by the windmill, the third power (cube)depends on the speed of the wind.
Windmill depends on the diameter of the second power (sqare).
So I started with a lot of it is better to improve the efficiency of wind turbine using wind speed increases, and not via increasing the diameter of the fan.
Serves to increase the velocity venturi nozzle

V^3 , D ^2

As curiosity I enter the number of Hp has the arrangement of 15 m / sec. = 270 Hp


You probably use a turbine engine derived from a helicopter, to generate such energy

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

http://www.new4stroke.com/Venturi%20100m.jpg

Compare the speed with which the headrest will swim to the surface of the sail of 10 m ^ 2 and the wind of 5 m / s.

And now a windmill with a diameter D = 3m and also velocity of 5 m / s, which gives the power of 0.3 Hp.
and serve to drive the screw boat.
Now compare that with the boat that run much faster ???

It seems to me that, however, by usin 'the wind turbines are inefficient and primitive.

But surely the best helicopter pilots know that the strength of fast-rotating propellers is huge ..

Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

Try to follow the logic in my post. If you keep making the venturi constriction smaller the power goes up and up. Wrong! You cannot get something for nothing. There is only so much power in the wind flowing through a given cross section area and conservation of energy says the power will not increase as you move along a venturi. A good windmill will extract 50% of the available energy from a given cross section area of wind. There is no magic that will increase that by a factor greater than 2, in fact 59% is the (Betz's Law) limit for wind turbines of any type so modern wind turbines can achieve over 80% of the theoretical limit.

Oh yes, this theoretical limit of 80%, but for the most primitive machinery ?
And there is an error in assuming that we count the most primitive machine.
Plain sail is much more perfect than a windmill.
And here we see that the wind has a lot more energy than even 100% of the energy windmill

See how high can the waves rush in, only at the surface, blowing. The waves are also wind energy

The nozzle wenturi use all surfaces of the input, multiplied by the weight of the wind (the amount of air flow in kilograms)
And it is this mass air flow causes the nozzle is formed in high speed. Even after leaving the nozzle cone is longer than the cone input. The air mass of his "draws even more through the nozzles

This is just like a sports car exchaust tubes . When calculating the length and diameter, are taken into account also the mass of gas flowing.

And there is no mass flow of great importance in the calculation of the weight just pulls out their remnant gas from the cylinder, and even causes an inflow of fresh air. Without any widmil.
Note that in my last example, is given by the mass flow entrusted Venturi. And it amounts to 48 tonnes per second. It is the burden of two wagons loaded in 1 second.

A pipe with a length of 500 meters and a diameter of 100m, at a speed of 15 m / s
there is a 1600 tons of air, which has its energy.

This is the weight of two freight trains. Try to stop them. Ride at 50 km / h

http://www.new4stroke.com/venturi%2011%2020000%20MW.jpg

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Read the article. This is the absolute truth and applies to any wind turbine.

It might take a while to get your head around Betz's law, but unless you do, you are not in a position to dismiss it.

EDIT. By the way, 16 MW is the TOTAL power in a 100m diameter disc in a 15 m/s wind. Any machine extracting more than that has disproved the 1st law of thermodynamics - a perpetual motion machine.

I'm not an executioner. I help people with this type of issue for a living.


Well, that warning was fuller, that I give you that for a Venturi entrance diameter of 100 m and wind speed 15 m / s flows as much air and treatment by 230 pieces CF6 engines of Boeing.

However, one more proof that the sails are much more efficient than the windmills.
Last Polish sailing ship "Fryderyk Copin" broke the mast in the North Sea and towed to Falmouth.
http://www.fryderykchopin.pl/?id=o-zaglowcu&sub=dane-techniczne

As you can see in the data sheet, the speed of an internal combustion engine Hp Scania 538 is 9 knots.
However, a sailing speed of 16 knots. Sails area is 1,200 square meter..

Obtaining such a ship speed of 16 knots just by driving it through the internal combustion engine would involve a minimum of about 2000 Hp.

However, the speed of the ship has been on their sails, even if it sails can not be exactly perpendicular to the direction of swimming, because it would obstruct each other with the wind.
So I have to be at a high angle to the direction of flow, which also means that only part of the force obtained from the sail, pushing the ship forward.

We can assume that the pool surface that can sail power forward. That is, 600 square meters.
This ship has the speed at 12 m / s wind.

And now Let's calculate how much, under the windmill can give us an area of 600 square meters of the wheel at a speed of 12 m / s

6 About the same perpendicular usable space as the ship sails00 m / 3,14 =191 , 191 sqrt =13,8 m , 13.8 X 2 = 27 m D widmil.

About the same perpendicular usable space as the ship sails.

Well, now we calculate how much power will give us a windmill with a diameter of 27 meters and wind speed 12 m / sec.

(12 x 12 x12 x 27 x27 / 1530) 0,4 = 326 HP

As you can see from the calculations where the power produced by the windmill is several times smaller than the engine power needed to flow the speed of 16 knots. (Teoretical 2000 Hp)
So you can tell from this example that the power produced by a windmill is 6 times smaller than the power produced by the sails.
or even this theory, the 100-meter windmill has 16 megawatts of power theory is not the absolute maximum power which disposes of the wind flowing through it.
According to this calculation gave the sails to six times more, - 30 megawatts.
Yes, I recommended that slowly read the theory about the new use of the wind ...


New widmil theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navier%E2%80%93Stokes_equations)

However, the perpetual motion I would be careful. Because God every day we founded the thunderstorms. You know how much there is electricity? and does not need to use either sail or wind, in order to make electricity out of nothing.
And new dixieland:
http://www.new4stroke.com/GreenToothYoda.jpg

Regards Andrew :-)

[Feliks]

It is proposed to be called Venturi widmill: " The Cube Turbine "

Do you know that such a large cooling towers at power plants are made of reinforced concrete walls with a thickness of 12 cm on average?

I'm very curious if that work well, though for that tip wentturi Inject and burn some fuel.
The calculations on the calculator Venturi, that, if the temperature of the air flow would be about 60 degrees Kelvin higher, the speed of the jet that increased by 50% !

If this is not too much to add, that was such a low temperature turbine engine
During low-wind, he could give a little energy.
It was like a ramjet engine
ramjet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramjet)

jet helicopter (http://www.muzeumlotnictwa.pl/zbiory_sz.php?ido=72&w=a)


Well, such a complete install on the mountain. Would give as much energy as the whole of Poland produces.

Sniezka (http://www.meteogroup.pl/pl/home/pogoda/pogoda-na-swiecie/pogoda-lokalna/miasto/12510/sniezka.html)


Regards Andrew:-)

[Feliks]

And again, a mistake...

http://www.aerostar.com/military/new_images/TRF-3500-D_towed_2.jpg

http://www.aerostar.com/military/new_images/TRF-3500_towed.jpg

And to be towing a boat areostar....

And in the middle of a venturi nozzle areostar with two such fans...

http://www.new4stroke.com/Bigwind.jpg

Merry Christmas to everybody
Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

New animations half rotate engine:

http://www.new4stroke.com/halfrotate400.gif




http://www.new4stroke.com/halfrotate400fazy.gif




And in scale 1:1 350 ccm intake volume:


http://www.new4stroke.com/halfrotatedxf.dxf Save file

Regards Andrew:D

[Feliks]

http://www.new4stroke.com/walki.jpg

or" Twin Feliks "



http://www.new4stroke.com/platehalfrotate.jpg


http://www.new4stroke.com/fullhalfrotate.jpg

or other new patents...

The cylinder can be made from an aluminum extrude...


http://www.new4stroke.com/elastic%20hose.jpg

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

"Twin Feliks"

http://www.new4stroke.com/tloki.jpg


Big air cooled
http://www.new4stroke.com/images/bigair.jpg


Small air cooled


http://www.new4stroke.com/images/smallair.jpg


star halfrotate


http://www.new4stroke.com/starhalfrotate5.gif


And "Stephenson second"


http://www.new4stroke.com/halfsteam6.gif



And story this inventions "step by step"
Story half rotate engine (http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Possible%20mutation%20pivot.htm)


Regards Andrew

http://www.pivotalengine.com/PivotalBrochure.pdf

Save these PDF files on your computer and print. These are drawings of the 2-liter engine on a scale of 1:1


http://www.new4stroke.com/section.pdf

http://www.new4stroke.com/long.pdf

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

The wind energy. Harrier is driven by the wind, the helicopter also...In order to receive a flow venturi nozzle which is in the engine Harier ( 200 KG / sec ), then you need only 6 meters in diameter and 25 length.... and 5 m / sec wind...


http://www.new4stroke.com/Venturi%206000.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/Venturi%206000a.jpg

With the movement of 200 Kg / sec Harrier has a string of 10 000 KG....

Another way to go. The narrowest point is less Venturiego nozzle pressure. It's like found in the center of the lowlands of atmospheric ( weather ). This causes larger than hurricanes weather.
Except that here we have a much shorter way from the boom to the lowlands....
Huricane flows from areas of high pressure to areas of low pressure.




QUOTE (Greg Locock @ Mar 29 2011, 21:25)
Step back from the equations, and think about what would happen if you put a disc with a hole in it up to the airflow. Now stretch the disc out along the axis of the hole. All the air in the disc bit will be still 'see' disc ahead of them, not the hole you'd like them to go for. A big wodge of stagnated air will build up ahead of the venturi. For the equations just use continuity and Bernouilli, for the lossless case./QUOTE


In this reasoning, the disc does not have thickness. The reasoning for the classic windmill, to which all are used: flat disk, with virtually no thickness. Therefore, the classic windmill has a low efficiency, because this disc is not dispensed air mass and its speed is only such as wind.
The venturi nozzle are two cones and a not insignificant thickness of 25 meters. And now this whole mass of air that is housed in a venturi nozzle is involved in the flow through it. It should be noted that the cones are of unequal length. Cone output is 30 % longer than the input... why? Well, because this is the output cone of doing it at low pressure in the narrowest point.
With reduction in pressure, is involved the whole mass of air in which the output is a cone, that is, the average disk X 16m. Cone can not be shorter because they do not provide laminar flow, which is a prerequisite for good work Venturi nozzle. With disorders of movement ( for a short cone ) in action will take part, only a small mass of air, to lower pressure. The condition is llaminar flow, because the cone has to be quite so long. For that produces a significant vacuum in the narrowest point, causing fresh air to the input cone...

Andrew:wavey::-D

[Feliks]

However, few venturi nozzle in the world already taken:

http://www.valka.cz/ADMIN/REDAKCE/SNAKE/forum/Po-2/Po2_U2Kukuruznik_01.jpg

http://www.imperialco.net/imperial/venturi3731.jpg

http://www.flowlin.com/Pics/006.jpg

http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/techarticles/engine/mufp_0603_ford_carburetors/9627060%20w200/mufp_0603_11z%20carburetor%20accelerator_pump_nozz le.jpg

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GsMANSJUOQ]Vinturi Wine Pourer

If they move to the Thames or Potomac River this venturi nozzle:

D=1 meter, L = 5 meter V min 0,6 m/sec V max 6 m/sec , Flow 500 kg/sec .....

A little electric power can be done...

The same goes for the sea tidal and sea currents.

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

If you need a really high torque without gear:


http://www.new4stroke.com/diskmotor.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8fBx6dan3g&feature=player_detailpage#t=7s

Regards Andrew:D

[Feliks]

Animation showing how using venturi nozzle drives the gyroscope to the flight instruments. Historically, the aircraft was not an electric current...
But now, if we do the jets in the right size, we thus also powered electric generator...


http://www.new4stroke.com/airdriveindicator.gif



Even used a double Venturi nozzle, in order to increase the vacuum to best drive "turbine"


http://www.new4stroke.com/Venturigauge.jpg



Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

So yes, I think it best to start with what everyone has long-standing knowledge and know how not to reinvent the wheel.
Ideally we'll see this in professional.

http://www.croll.com/pr/pdf/vacpro.pdf
http://www.croll.com/pr/pdf/fundament.pdf
http://www.croll.com/pr/index.php?page=vetheory#matcon
http://www.croll.com/pr/pdf/DesigSteam.pdf

http://www.croll.com/pr/a_ejectors.htm
http://www.croll.com/pr/pdf/vacpump.pdf
http://www.croll.com/pr/pdf/vacwater.pdf
http://www.croll.com/pr/pdf/superheaters.pdf
http://www.croll.com/pr/pdf/noisecontrol.pdf

I think that for the first time, that's enough. :rolleyes:



http://www.new4stroke.com/largeventuri2.jpg

Greetings fromYoda (http://www.myfreewallpapers.net/starwars/wallpapers/master-yoda.jpg)


Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

I still have some of the existing achievements Venturi Nozzle:
http://books.google.pl/books?id=RNTvti6Vmd...uri&f=false (http://books.google.pl/books?id=RNTvti6VmdcC&pg=SA3-PA16&lpg=SA3-PA16&dq=TURN+AND+SLIP+INDICATOR+venturi&source=bl&ots=mO5mt7DzId&sig=l4ynhYe2x4glJesLRz53VLhpu3M&hl=pl&ei=8DqeTez_D8_EsgbfjujiAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=TURN%20AND%20SLIP%20INDICATOR%20venturi&f=false)

http://64.201.227.3/~sk/J-1_All_ProductBroch.pdf

http://www.pdfio.com/k-214799.html
http://www.nitech-vac.com/products/ejector...am_ejectors.htm (http://www.nitech-vac.com/products/ejectors/steam_ejectors.htm)

http://www.new4stroke.com/laser1.jpg


I think that the next step will be to manufacture large quantities of electricity from wind, by the use of Venturi nozzles

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

The Underground Windmill.

Underground windmills will be an really new alternative to the Atom

http://www.new4stroke.com/ground700.gif


Regards Andrew :-D:-D

[Feliks]

Helicopter rotor blades without ???

Without blades (http://www.dysonairmultiplier.com/)

http://www.dysonairmultiplier.com/

four animation.

Perhaps,perhaps...

Andrew

[Feliks]

In Other Technical Forum :

That Venturi nozzle feeding a windmill-turbine is a really interesting concept.
One of the problems with current windmills is that they must be constantly pointed to the wind, not only to optimize energy generation, but also lest they might sustain some damage.
A set of nozzles, say in a six or eight pointed star arrangement, could feed a fixed windmill, which as you suggest, could now operate in a horizontal plane and be sustained in rails or whatever.
The nozzles, being quite solid structures, can take side winds, and one would just need to open/close the appropriate valves within the nozzle star at the right time depending on the direction of the wind, much easier and faster than rotating a whole windmill with the wind. One could also combine any number of such tunnels and stack nozzles at different heights.
The wind capturing device and the energy generating device become effectively uncoupled from each other.

About something that you think? :D :D

http://www.new4stroke.com/allwind.jpg


Andrew :mrgreen::mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Total power in the wind. Power = 0.5 x Swept Area x Air Density x Velocity3from http://www.reuk.co.uk/Calculation-of-Wind-Power.htm...


In the Wikipedia is a big mistake or inaccuracy
Call it what you think.

Now why is that:

Kinetic Energy = Mass x 0.5 x Velocity2 It is certainly true.

But when it comes to the calculated mass is no longer referred to as:

Mass / sec (kg / s) = Velocity ( m / sec ) x Area ( m2 ) x Density (kg/m3 )

In my opinion, if we count the mass, we must indicate the volume of the cylinder, which is in addition to its surface and its length.

Here, due to an error or a" shortcut calculations" assume that the length of the cylinder is equal to 1.

But it is not always true mass depends also on the length of the cylinder, because they can be 50 meters.

Of course, if you will take part in the formation of energy.

Even in a new traditional windmill blade width can have two meter, and now the model is invalid.

* But because the masses are Surface x L x Density. Always. :-D

Well, where we have L ? :?::?:


Regards Andrew :-D


By the way. What has to calculate the speed of her weight? :laugh:

[Feliks]

Holidays are approaching, so we do spring cleaning. For sure we will use the vacuum cleaner. We can using such a vacuum cleaner to see how the underground windmill will run . Namely, you should close the pipe vacum cleaner is best without the caps to a small fan, for example, to cool the CPU, or a computer power supply. We will have a working model of an underground windmill......

The following picture shows the sports exhaust, which are built with a relatively long individual pipes from each cylinder. Their length L is crucial for their proper operation. Mass departing exhaust with a volume of such tubes will help the new portion of air intake into the cylinder, while the common valve opening. This mass is precisely calculated for the speed at which it will perform a so-called dynamic charge of the engine

http://www.racdyn.com/Images/OnLineCatalog/RegularViews/RV_1300854461.jpg

Just the energy contained in the exhaust of precision of the volume of the exhaust manifold vacuum in the cylinder does.


Happy Easter to everybody !

Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

"The Non-Undergroud Windmill"


http://www.new4stroke.com/non.gif


Regards Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

http://www.new4stroke.com/hom600.gif

This is Homer. Now you can safely drink, because he knows the underground fan will give him a lot cheaper green energy.
It can use an underground windmill used an old engine, for example, the Harrier. Or the same fan.

http://www.new4stroke.com/Pegasus%20Fan01.jpg

Regards Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

" The Full Underground Windmill "

http://www.new4stroke.com/fullund.gif

Regards Andrew :-D:-D

[Viper]

What do you do for a living, exactly?
You seem relentlessly passionate about this stuff. :)

[Feliks]

What do you do for a living, exactly?
You seem relentlessly passionate about this stuff. :)

My interest is on my side.http://www.new4stroke.com :-D


You know how it works "Underwater Windmill" ?


http://www.new4stroke.com/underwater.jpg

Regards Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ3Pohh502E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW1Fedhx6Nc

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

"The gain in kinetic energy resulting from the increased linear velocity in the throat is offset (i.e., balanced) by the decrease of pressure in the throat. The reduction in pressure which occurs when the fluid flows through the throat is called the Venturi effect and is named after the Italian physicist Giovanni Battista Venturi (1746 - 1822) who first observed the effect."

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Venturi_effect
http://www.hippocampus.org/homework-help/P...Simulation.html (http://www.hippocampus.org/homework-help/Physics-B/Fluid%20Mechanics_Venturi%20Tube%20-%20Simulation.html)



Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Lesson Two: in terms of fundamental historical

Venturitubes 1937.pdf (http://www.new4stroke.com/Venturitubes1937.pdf)

On the pictures below you can see how small the venturi nozzle is to drive the gyroscopes in the strands. My finger and applied on the next hand, illustrate the size of the venturi tube. It is almost equal to the diameter of my finger. Now, please imagine how much energy to give the fan with the same diameter of my finger...

http://www.new4stroke.com/ventfing.jpg



http://www.new4stroke.com/venthand.jpg


Since the narrowest point of the venturi tube, we can easily get up to 10 times higher air velocity, we can mount the engine behind the jet frame, which at high speeds the inlet has a good performance.
For example, you can mount an engine on an Tourist Plane, which reaches 200 km / h at the entrance to the RAM JET would be about 2000 km / h....
This will generate additional good sequence, using a very simple engine ( or two )


http://www.new4stroke.com/ventjet.jpg

Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Originally posted by Feliks


On the pictures below you can see how small the venturi nozzle is to drive the gyroscopes in the strands. My finger and applied on the next hand, illustrate the size of the venturi tube. It is almost equal to the diameter of my finger. Now, please imagine how much energy to give the fan with the same diameter of my finger...


Regards Andrew

A venturi tube so small as my finger is able to propel a large heavy rotating disk gyroscope air to 10 000 RPM, and even walk through the air filter....


http://www.new4stroke.com/airdriveindicator.gif


Since the gyroscope can be power, relatively high compared to the diameter of the venturi tubes (1 ") and he has the 2 ", then maybe you can do in F1 KERS Venturi "?
The air sucked into the engine can be sucked through a venturi tube so, resulting in a negative pressure to drive the gyroscope, which will keep energy....:tsk

That would be something like a turbine gives energy, but the intake pipe. Turbo :D

http://www.new4stroke.com/ventf11.jpg

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

http://www.pilotfriend.com/training/flight_training/fxd_wing/gyro.htm

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/1982636.pdf

Andrew:mrgreen::mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Another animation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz2rQvCxp44

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Originally posted by monkeysandbearspants
Having digested the content of the thread i conclude that the answer could be one of these !!

However weight may be an issue and mostly certainly there would need to to be some boot modifications!




http://www.new4stroke.com/litlleengine.jpg


http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_pomocnicze/sp_index_ang.htm

http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_pomocnicze/remont_sp/awarie_remont/glowica_urw_zaw_isadora/glow_urw_zawor.htm

http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_glowne/sg_index_ang.htm

double bottom fo foam
http://www.youtube.com/user/pawielus?gl=PL&hl=pl#p/u/53/Cfp0BWKwdgY dno (http://www.youtube.com/user/pawielus?gl=PL&hl=pl#p/u/53/Cfp0BWKwdgY%20dno)


large swimmer:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pawielus?gl=PL&hl=pl#p/u/92/mnxWu3oWghs

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[markspeed]

http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_pomocnicze/sp_index_ang.htm

http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_pomocnicze/remont_sp/awarie_remont/glowica_urw_zaw_isadora/glow_urw_zawor.htm

http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_glowne/sg_index_ang.htm

double bottom fo foam
http://www.youtube.com/user/pawielus?gl=PL&hl=pl#p/u/53/Cfp0BWKwdgY dno (http://www.youtube.com/user/pawielus?gl=PL&hl=pl#p/u/53/Cfp0BWKwdgY%20dno)


large swimmer:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pawielus?gl=PL&hl=pl#p/u/92/mnxWu3oWghs

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:




Man even Optimus Prime would have a bad crank day trying to fire that best of a lump to life. Thank the gods for electronic ignition! :thumbup:

[Feliks]

Good opportunity to remind:

And about half rotate.

http://www.new4stroke.com/images/Sulzer.jpg


Star engines were characterized biggest always force density

http://www.new4stroke.com/starhalfrotate5.gif



Below picture of the star half rotate around 10 (40) with "cylinders". for the transparency of the picture one can see only 3 additional "cylinders" more than is at the animated film.
One can also see dimensions of the whole of the engine in the assumption that every cylinder has such dimensions for the picture half rotate with the set connecting rod of the Sulzer D= engine of 900 mm and stroke 2500 mm .

http://www.new4stroke.com/half10.jpg

So 10 (40) "cylindrical" engine half rotate about the same working capacity in comparing to the Sulzer 10 engine cylindrical on the picture below .

Sulzer: 10 Cylinders , 20 m long , 15 m hight , 1500 Ton weight.

Half rotate star : 10(40) "Cylinders" 4,5 m diameter , 4,5 m long
about 70 Ton weight.


http://www.new4stroke.com/sulzer1.jpg


And most importantly.. Since in the engine half rotate mass innertia are several times Sulzer smaller than in the engine, engine half rotate can work with the much greater rotation speed.
Sulzer : 102 RPM , 60 000 KW

Half rotate: 250 RPM , 150 000 KW

In same intake work volume ...

Regards Andrew :-D

Sure the engines of cars will be similar proportions.:-D

[Feliks]

http://www.new4stroke.com/oil500.gif

I thought about that. The float on the animation gives the impression of a small..

I think that this would be accurate...

http://www.dieselduck.net/videos/04%20weat...ough%20seas.wmv (http://www.dieselduck.net/videos/04%20weather/cargoship%20in%20rough%20seas.wmv)


I wonder how many tons of water would be able to pump out the 100-meter high tank, during one cycle of the wave? :)

Regards Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

The Red Baron Windmill:

Due to the vacuum created by the wing, over which the wind flows, wind turbines in the channels of collective spin vacuum and provide energy....

http://www.new4stroke.com/Redbaron700.gif

Here you can see demonstrations of the film that created a vacuum at the top of the wing when the wind blows on him.
The resulting vacuum can suck the ball into the pipe passing through the wing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8IFfnbjY8

By placing many of the holes on the top of the wing, use the vacuum on the entire surface of the wing. The Assembly shall meet in two sustaining supports and drives the suction fans to them with normal air pressure.
This will of course be used to produce energy,
and its amount will depend on the size of the system...

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Well, some developing:

Of course, you must use the entire art of loving wing aerodynamics.
And How companies grow one way: speed amplifier in the form of air intake venturi nozzle.


http://www.new4stroke.com/redbaronventuri.jpg

Well, and a new kind of wings...
Venturi nozzle flat... After all the two wings made contrary to each other..
http://www.new4stroke.com/Flatventuri.jpg



Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

In other forum :

Those wings need endplates.

Seriously - using the flow in a secondary device means that a lot of the wind power is wasted, because the mass flow through the turbines is much less than the wind mass flow captured by the machine.

I have seen some interesting and original ideas in this thread, but you are wasting YOUR energy trying to improve on the efficiency of a modern wind turbine.


All of this, I waste my energy ,you able to understand that there are other, much more efficient ways of using wind energy.

I know your great love for modern wind turbine, but you must remember that any excessive love sent your eyes, and impossible for an objective view of reality.

Besides, is not just about the same efficiency, but also for it to be able to build a very simple structure that even the next 4,000 years will exist. I makes sense to build on the sea, because they almost always wind blows from one direction - from the sea. And so it will probably still over the next 4000 years...
* In such a structure may be, for example, 100 such horizontal " flat venturi " and long for 300 meters. Constructed channels will lead to negative pressure turbines which generate much electricity. And the only element consuming to be turbine generators. The rest should survive 4000 years without repairs...

So with these issues will be decisive, not only we can improve the efficiency of Venturi amplifier.

Well unless the people have lost the ability to build such structures ...

http://www.new4stroke.com/All_Gizah_Pyramids.jpg

And here in a better resolution though you wanted to see more details:

Pyramids (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/All_Gizah_Pyramids.jpg)

But who will be Pharaoh?? ;-)

Regards Andrew :-D:-D

[Feliks]

And here's the picture of Homer family watching the Red Baron Windmill prototype with flat Venturi nozzles.
If you meet all expectations, this is a prototype of Homer performs with Stone, as Pharaoh himself had wished.
And it will be a very durable building, well, for example, compared to the ridiculously short life of nuclear reactors...

http://www.new4stroke.com/homerf.jpg



Best Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

With a dash of fantasy.

Oh yes, a little bit of you have, then a little knowledge and work reliably over the idea and new invention ready.....

Here you can see perfectly that we can get plenty of potential energy generated by the aerodynamics, without any propellers....
It allows a range of up to 3000 km by glider...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliding


Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

In other forum
Oh yes, a little bit of you have, then a little knowledge and work reliably over the idea and new invention ready.....

Here you can see perfectly that we can get plenty of potential energy generated by the aerodynamics, without any propellers....
It allows a range of up to 3000 km by glider...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliding


Andrew:stir:

The main energies supplied to a glider is gravity and convection(solar) energy. Even a glider has to be able to change it's vector to operate at a gain. At the end of the day, a glider has produced very little work. If you were to try to power the world on the work performed levels of a glider, it would be a herculean task.[/QUOTE]


You know perfectly well, with new ideas about the rank of the fundamental, very difficult to penetrate to the use of mass...

But thanks to people like you, we can slowly try to..
Another, although not looking as Hekules, we have on video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8IFfnbjY8

Instead, we can build an automatic flow of balls so that they can be sucked into the pipe.
A falling ball (or WATER) with wings, they can hit their way back after a shoulder wheel, similar to a water wheel, giving him his potential energy ..

Well, the automatic circuit, will cause the "Hercules" he can rest.
This is just an example of how we can use another way of generating energy this way.

Regards Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

Instead, we can build an automatic flow of balls so that they can be sucked into the pipe.
A falling ball (or WATER) with wings, they can hit their way back after a shoulder wheel, similar to a water wheel, giving him his potential energy ..

Well, the automatic circuit, will cause the "Hercules" he can rest.
This is just an example of how we can use another way of generating energy this way.


"The Water Wind Power Plant"



Love for "tuning" not gone...


http://www.new4stroke.com/redbarontung.jpg


Andrew

[Feliks]

http://mainhg.demotywatory.pl/uploads/201003/1268596992_by_bratpitt_500.jpg


http://www.1-famous-quotes.com/quote/1378398


Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

I actually wasted 2 min typing that text in google translator and came up with this:

"scientists believe the surface of his wings is too small in relation to its weight and in accordance with the laws of physics can not fly ... But the bumblebee does not know ..."

Regards,

K.Lagan


Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

In other forum:
Correct if you calulate based on single lift pulse per wing cycle. Bees get 2 lifts per wing cycle. People used to think the earth was flat and at the the center too.

Please to let us know how to make complex structures that are both strong enough to self suport and to resist 4000 years of storms? We simple people can see how a simple shape pile of rocks could last in an area that does not see sub 0C temps. Now all you need to do is figure out how to make electricity from a pile of rocks.

The pile of rocks:

http://www.new4stroke.com/piramidanaca.jpg


Hmmm, as someone with a structural engineering background, I see potential problems with that structure :lol:

Needs more rocks.

No, I think it needs less air.

And I have hope that over the last 4,000 years we have learned, to build something more than just the pyramids and the pyramids.... :-)

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Well, with that lovely airfoil texture, I'm sure that that will start producing usable amounts of energy any time it's within the eyewall of a hurricane....

Also such a pile of stones, and a dangerous element of water, politely puts 2000 MW....


http://www.new4stroke.com/HooverDam.jpg


Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Not stones, Concrete with much steel and piping in it. Well under 100 years old and under constant care, maintenance and upgrades. Nothing polite about this project. Read up a bit and you will find it was made out of men and material. 0.0 % clever, 100% brute force and slide rule engineering.

Concrete is a pile of stones, only a tiny...

If we use the design of computers, calculators to calculate the type,
http://www.flowmeterdirectory.com/flowmeter_venturi_calc.html
http://www.hanleyinnovations.com/vf50.html

It can be 100% clean design
And even more politely 'll gain energy. And then it will be possible, for the next 4000 years.

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Snoopy inspired me.. :)

First, the architects built the pyramids, then the rectangular houses. Now for the houses in the shape of airfoil ;-)


http://www.new4stroke.com/snoopy.jpg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak4JgrNPwIc&feature=related


Regards Andrew :-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJtYvsDKQV8&NR=1 :mrgreen:

[Gassolini]

Andrew, I just want to thank you for all the interesting engine concepts you've presented, including that on your your own site! I've learnt quite a bit from it :thumbup:

DJ
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[Feliks]

Andrew, I just want to thank you for all the interesting engine concepts you've presented, including that on your your own site! I've learnt quite a bit from it :thumbup:

DJ
--


You still look at a few other forums, there you will find even more information, for example here:

http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4535



As if someone is not loved music, it can be so..

‪Snoopy And The Red Barron (Peanuts)‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdljMhUQWyQ&feature=related)


But you should see that Snoopy House can ...fly

‪ANGEL GUADIANIA Snoopy VS the Red Baron‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r9WuQMJ_aM&NR=1)

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

http://www.new4stroke.com/multisnoopy.jpg



Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Indeed it is

http://bucket.usastra.com/gallery/Gifs/multisnoopy.gif


The Multisnoopy Ship

This is Beautiful.. :-D

This is the modern variant of a sailing ship... so that the sails are not torn...

Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/downwind-faster-than-the-wind


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNbNNSDljGI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPOqlkzW8KU&feature=related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing_faster_than_the_wind#Sailing_dead_downwind _faster_than_the_wind

http://www.new4stroke.com/snoopy1.jpg

Aerodynamic coefficient Cx is very small. It is certainly much smaller than in the traditional ship...

This is not a traditional sail 2D, but the full 3D structure. Energy is processed and used to drive water propeller. Why can swim backwards and forwards. Like a film with 2D fan.
So many of Snoopy Ship has a much higher efficiency due to 3D

Andrew:mrgreen:

[Viper]

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/downwind-faster-than-the-wind


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNbNNSDljGI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPOqlkzW8KU&feature=related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing_faster_than_the_wind#Sailing_dead_downwind _faster_than_the_wind

http://www.new4stroke.com/snoopy1.jpg

Aerodynamic coefficient Cx is very small. It is certainly much smaller than in the traditional ship...

This is not a traditional sail 2D, but the full 3D structure. Energy is processed and used to drive water propeller. Why can swim backwards and forwards. Like a film with 2D fan.
So many of Snoopy Ship has a much higher efficiency due to 3D

Andrew:mrgreen:

Cool!

[MickeyMouse]

Why not put the wings in the water and gain even more power? The faster you go, the more power you get, and the faster you go, yay perpetual motion!

[Feliks]

Why not put the wings in the water and gain even more power? The faster you go, the more power you get, and the faster you go, yay perpetual motion!

It is unfortunate that your idea you're late.. 100 years.
However, perpetual motion and somehow not occurred..;-)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofoil

Andrew:-D

[MickeyMouse]

Hydrofoils don't generate power, but your wings presumably do. Sticking your wings in the water would generate more power, no?

[Feliks]

Hydrofoils don't generate power, but your wings presumably do. Sticking your wings in the water would generate more power, no?

Antigravity ever seen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8IFfnbjY8&feature=player_embedded

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

http://www.new4stroke.com/heron600.gif

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Old ideas in new study:
This gear drive in a helicopter that is bothering me. Another way to get rid of her. By the way, turned out that the rear propeller and also you can get rid of , because the helicopter does not have the torque of the main propeller.
The helicopter had already been built. But it had drawbacks: no, for example, could not take full advantage of autorotation, because the propeller with a hole through the center did not have good aerodynamic properties....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sud-Ouest_Djinn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Helicopter_Djinn_rotor_mast_and_blade.jpg
I missed this problem and the propeller is as it is most optimal.
Also today after assuming control of the helicopter adjustable nozzle (vectoring nozzle) on the outlet gases from the turbine driven, will be very precise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbomeca_Palouste

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Engine_of_F-35.jpg
In summary the lack of a gear transmission and rear propeller helicopter will certainly reduce weight.





http://www.new4stroke.com/Heronsapacheb700.gif



http://www.new4stroke.com/sshot-1500.jpg



http://www.new4stroke.com/sshot-6.jpg

Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Here PhotoStream proposal, which has improved aerodynamics and a little stiffness to the system add..



http://www.new4stroke.com/sshot-2000.jpg


some histo:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/SFF_002-1055526_Fairey_Rotodyne.jpg/800px-SFF_002-1055526_Fairey_Rotodyne.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9633v6U0wo

http://www.new4stroke.com/percival.pdf

http://www.new4stroke.com/AIAA-Presentation.pdf

Originally posted by Chopper
Welcome back Andrew.

One day it will fly

:eureka

http://tipjet.com/tj_pho_gallry.htm


Andrew:mrgreen:

[mchalkley]

exceedingly interesting

[Feliks]

Green Engineering in strongbox bank.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU

Andrew;-)

[Feliks]

Is marriage Underground Windmill of Tesla's Turbine is the optimum solution?


http://www.new4stroke.com/Tesla.jpg


several cases that support the solution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdix_i-f4Tc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7nFga2BpGU&feature=related

http://www.imp.gda.pl/en/research-centres/centre-for-thermomechanics-of-fluids/turbine-aerodynamics-department/research/tesla-type-bladeless-turbines/

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7695242.pdf


Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

If you do not want to lose a large diameter fan operating in the Venturi nozzle, you should use " internal Venturi nozzles ".
These are just two cones inside a circular tube
Their convergence must be in accordance with the Bernoulli's principle, just like a normal venturi nozzle. So must be kept laminar flow. But we gain a large diameter fan. Theoretically, the energy gain obtained is 10 times larger in relation to the windmill in a narrow place of the normal venturi nozzle....
Field cross-sections must be changed in the same function as in classical venturi

http://www.new4stroke.com/Venturiinner.jpg

Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Wind and water have long been a very liked.
So I think that such a solution, consistent with their preferences, will be most effective

It is a Venturi vidmil that drives large enough vane pump with sealing ring via water.
Thanks to such a seal, which is not consumed, and it is tight, you can use all the energy that gives us a venturi nozzle of the vacuum produced.. Because the turbine does not have any leaks.So theoretically, this will be the most efficient use of wind...

We can thus take advantage of the vacuum energy, what we get in other ways to obtain it from the wind.

New "turbine" is Liquid Ring Vaccum Pumps


http://www.new4stroke.com/waterventuri.jpg


http://www.gd-nash.com/uploadedImages/Nash/Products/Flash_Images/liquid%20ring%20how%20it%20works%20extended%20leng th%20nl.swf

http://www.new4stroke.com/2BE4%20CPD%20sheet.pdf

Regards Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

Forged pistons :rolleyes:
http://www.new4stroke.com/2.jpg

And this looks like their production
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPF7jdPyQaU

Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Heron's Apache my be need this engine:

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorjet

http://www.new4stroke.com/sshot-2000.jpg

Heron's apache to drive propellers you may use electrically driven motors Motorjet. Then you can harness the power of their relatively high..

http://www.angelfire.com/art/jetengine/
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=777461

Well if he gave such ichyba two engines to the Hero's apache model, it is even quite good size, it could be...

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302250&pp=15&page=11

May be person size??
The first hybrid helicopter??

Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Thanks to the new Heron's Apache we can build a pretty good quality helicopter
http://www.new4stroke.com/Heronsapacheb500.gif
When we begin to design a small personal helicopter similar to this:
http://rotorfx.com/mosquito_experimental_ultralight_helicopters_for_s ale/mosquito_experimental_ultralight_helicopters_for_s ale.htm
We see the need to drive to the main rotor diameter of 18 feet (5.5 meter)
We see the need to drive to the main rotor diameter of 18 feet (5.5 meter) and 540 rpm rotational speeds. To achieve such a speed we could use a torque 800 Nm ( ~ 80 kgm ).
Returning now to the Hero 's Apache, we can assume that the torque on the main propeller tubes produce more than us four propeller.
Let's say that in May they long 3.5 feet (1 meter ). So, as at the end of each of those tubes you put the engine that gives us a sequence of 10 N (2 Lbs) values ??(1kg) it will be added to the rotor torque of 10 Nm (1 kgm)
So four of these tubes with motors will give us a 40 Nm (4 kgm).
Now, assuming that our helicopter will be lighter with a big motor, gears and tail rotor, we can assume that he will need to drive only the main rotor diameter of 600 Nm at, say, 16 feet (4.9 m).
So if we placed the total at the end of the tube Heron's Apache silnki of values ??within 600/40 = 15
15 X 2 lbs = 30 lbs of force within, we get has fully functional helicopter....
As it turns out, these motors have already modelers....
http://www.wrenturbines.co.uk/media/files/wren_160_pro_instructions.pdf
Weight engines 8 Kg (14 Lbs)....
http://wn.com/jetkart 10 position video
If you want to build a crane helicopter, use these eight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE4t-o7XY6M :tsk
http://www.vortechinternational.com/review.html
http://www.jetcentral.com.mx/english/mammoth.html
:cool::cool::cool:
Or a combination of hybrid electric..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DNOk5hXD60&noredirect=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEpbjk6dguM&feature=related&noredirect=1
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=777461
Or Only electric:
http://www.youtube.com/user/HansThunderbolt
40 pcs enought..~~ 40 KW and ful personal electric helicopter

So it happens that good fun can become a good professional...
Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Well, maybe but the full electric version:
These eight electric motors:
http://shop.rc-electric-jets.com/RC-Lander-DPS-120-mm-830kv-12S-Metal-EDF-LEDF120-1A83.htm


Now just: 8 electric motors, ie 2, 3 / 4 Lbs each battery X 8 pieces = 22Lbs (~ 10 kg) and can fly for 5 minutes. That is 132 lbs ( 66kg ) meringue can fly 30 minutes at full load... Weight of motors is 132 16 = 148 lbs (74 kg) fuel + engines.

http://alshobbies.com/shop/lookupstock.php?pc=7178

Weight of the traditional system of propulsion engine of CRE MZ202 is 38 kg, the transmission of about 15 kg, 5 gallons of fuel to the tank about 20 kg, the total weight of 72 kg and the propulsion flight time 1 hour..
When you subtract the tail rotor 20 kg to obtain also a similar range..

http://www.new4stroke.com/mosquito_experimental_ultralight_helicopter_dimens ions.gif

Until you can control the direction of these one additional electric motors, administer, only a little smaller.

And this looks like a traditional electric version of the aircraft

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8060/electriccricri.jpg

Bumblebee Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

I think that also the propeller airplanes can replenish the idea of ​​Heron's Jet Propeller. The latest toy modelers have superior features, and you may use them for "big air ".
Well let us take a small aircraft engine Rotax 447 to 44 Nm of torque. On the axis of the propeller must gear, have twice as large, ie ~ ~ 100 Nm (10 kgm ). Przytakim driving the propeller with a diameter of 1700 mm will be to spin it properly and give the appropriate string.
So at the end of a single turbine on the arm of Heron 's say a length of 500 mm have a string 200N (20 kg), and two shoulders at 100 N (10 kg). Then we were given the same torque on the propeller, which gives the Rotax engine.
http://www.faston.home.pl/r447.htm
After putting two turbines, modeling of over 10 kg (100 N), we get a replacement Rotax engine.
They even have the parameters several times larger than we need for this example.
Well, the weight of the drive unit will be cheaper too many times, what in aviation is crucial

It turns out that we already have a fairly large selection of gas turbine engines such
http://www.jetcatusa.com/p200.html
http://www.amtjets.com/Titan.php

And of course we have also quite a large number of electric motors to drive the turbines of jet aircraft models, whose parameters are such that we can use them in Heron's propeller well. Their parameters and parameters of the battery used in development Propeller Heron, causes them to become competitive with conventional engines
http://shop.rc-electric-jets.com/RC-Lander-DPS-120-mm-830kv-12S-Metal-EDF-LEDF120-1A83.htm

They can be used in this exemplary model propeller Heron


http://www.new4stroke.com/Heronspropeller500.gif



After viewing a few videos of models turbuny aircraft, I saw that these turbines do not have to be at the end of the model, and may be in the middle, and the aid of additional exhaust pipes just flies out of the model.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNP9TbkYCrw&feature=related

From this reason, and my solution also applied this collective pipe, which is separated into 4 and changes the direction of exhaust gas.
Thanks to this, quite seriously improves the design Propellers Heron....

http://www.new4stroke.com/Heronplropellerjet.gif
And weight in relation to the Rotax is 10 times less...
So that is similar in other much larger propeller propulsion system also...
http://www.amtjets.com/pdf/Olympus_HP_specification.pdf

Regards Andrew

[Viper]

That actually looks quite clever, but does the gas flow quick enough to push around at a sufficient force or speed?

[Feliks]

That actually looks quite clever, but does the gas flow quick enough to push around at a sufficient force or speed?

I think that this experience should dispel all your fears..;-)


This is the first contemporary working model turbines Heron.
* This photo accessories in my Low Budget Institute:

http://www.new4stroke.com/Accessories%20demonstration.jpg

And this movie works as a turbine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J63NOqgPgVc


Regards Andrew :-D:-D

[Viper]

Hm, I guess it does then. :)

[Feliks]

Yes, but even here motorcycle without an the traditional engine.......

http://www.new4stroke.com/Bike.jpg

Andrew:-D:-D

[Feliks]

Here, the view from the other side :rolleyes:

http://www.new4stroke.com/Bike1.jpg


Andrew

[Feliks]

I published once the South African forum.

http://www.landcruiserclub.co.za/cms/index.php?name=Your_Account&profile=1316

Perhaps, someone saw it.
Here it is made and the working prototype engine half rotate. Only this power way and grinding cylindrer....
But it is works....


http://stallionturbos.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58&Itemid=83


http://www.new4stroke.com/delphin.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/delphin1.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/delphin2.jpg
http://www.new4stroke.com/valves.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/all delphine.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/chamber.jpg


http://www.new4stroke.com/piston.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/seal1.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/seal.jpg

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Tt looks exactly like the good ,old vane pump

http://www.tanksystem.de/pics/equipment/hand_vane_pump_gr.jpg


http://www.new4stroke.com/parts.gif


http://www.new4stroke.com/wingpump.jpg

Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Pity that llink is not working. There was a nice movie...

http://www.new4stroke.com/delphin10.jpg



Next Percival - it is too Heron
http://www.new4stroke.com/percival.pdf
.
But all helicopters this typy such defects were....
http://www.new4stroke.com/Rotorvibration.jpg

Seems to me that the project Herons Apache version "FEL -X" will not have these disadvantages, and will be missing heavy and very unreliable gear.... :rolleyes:

Andrew
:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

Here are a few solutions that can some of the problems to solve..

Surely you will need to test them in practice, before se makes the right decisions as to the shape of the structure of the drive.
Perhaps such a solution with a single tube might be the most efficient, because it will most laminar flow

http://www.new4stroke.com/one%20pipe.jpg

Or a Cutter Heron :D

http://www.new4stroke.com/HeronCutters.jpg

Of course, a whole can be properly enclosed guard areodynamic...

http://www.new4stroke.com/apachewhell.jpg


Well, here an example, if the electric drive can also adapt to the helicopter. Turbine itself would be inside the helicopter, but it would not be permanently linked to the rotor, so that no torque moved...

http://www.new4stroke.com/1400.gif

It is air- gear drive;-)

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

A very delicate matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OGz5gu3rSo

Andrew:-D

[Feliks]

Christmas gift :

One third of payments of electricity


http://www.new4stroke.com/tariff.jpg

Marry Chistmas evryone

Andrew:-D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_7

[Feliks]

Ok, ok , but why write " is invented by a German scientist."????;-)


http://www.tzhealth.com/medical-devices%5CRugged%20Emissions%20Analyzer/A%20thermal%20catalytic%20converter%20reduce%20emi ssions%20a%20muffler%20to%20reduce%20engine%20nois e%20Dynamometer.htm

And you do not need to share the head of the block, because the valves go up and not down.

Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

I was with my friends in the Museum of aviation again. "I'd like him to show this demo in which the effect of the vacuum State at the top of the wings, which blows the wind from the fan, the ball is sucked in by a transparent tube

provided in the middle of the wings and a peg that pops up on the wing.

Doing this experience again, so your friend can see it, I am surprised that the ball a is NOT sucked in tube!!

It is that this experience has been vandalized, and the ball is sucked on

Vandalized based on this, with a transparent tube to the bottom was several times the seeds.

But this was not the reason for the lack of vacuum in the tube.
After arrives home, thoroughly by looking at the about the well running the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8IFfnbjY8&feature=player_embedded

I noticed that the tube on the film extends over the upper surface of the wings have 70 mm
The vandalizet show the tube was brought down to equality with the upper surface of the wing.
And this was the main reason for the lack of vacuum in the tube !
Simply air her upper surface of the wing, when it encounters a simple hole in the wing, just get it and seeking to keep the pipes, eliminates any vacuum in it.!!

That is, that the ball could be the suck by the vacuum arising at the top of the wings, in this case the pipe must extend over the upper surface of the wing by about 70 mm !!!

When this tube does not extend, this does not transmit its down this vacuum, even in the smallest degree.

Why is this, explain the following drawings:


http://www.new4stroke.com/wingpipe.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/wingright.jpg

http://www.new4stroke.com/airfoil.jpg



Yes so we are one of the one cases where due to vandalism, we fully the specificities of of the Red Baron Windmill...

According to estimates, the surface of the wing of a 100 m square, with a wind speed of 30 km\/h can produce approximately 750 KG lift.
To get 100 KG of thrust of the propeller to the ultralight trike, the engine must have a power of about 50 KW
You can take also denied that the 100 KG over da US 50 KW electrical Dynamo.
Which had managed to seize the entire lift such 100 m ^ 2 wings which is 750 KG, a power Dynamo would be 300 KW.

The Windmill of the Red Baron 100 m x 30 m = 3000 m ^ 2 and this will give us the 9000 KW.

Now you can build 10 such wings one above with which 30000 m ^ 2 = 90 MW.

No and now depends on how many% of this theoretical power we capture this lift and exchange it into electrical current.


Regards Andrew :-D:-D


http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/wrong1.html

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/wrong3.html

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/presar.html
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/shape.html

[Feliks]

A can so ...

http://www.new4stroke.com/WaterRedBaron.jpg

Andrew :-D

[Feliks]

And in the meantime since the formation of the ideas, changes a lot. For example, go beyond the "magic circle of the cylinder" was the hardest thing.
When I discovered it, a new type of timing, was the new 4 stroke engine:


http://www.new4stroke.com/male.jpg

Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

My 6 cylinder boxer..


http://www.new4stroke.com/6cilinder.jpg


Can have two times less cubic capacity, because that is two times smaller turnover at the flywheel.


Regards Andrew :mrgreen:

[Feliks]

I think the era of steam comes to an end. At most in obsolete nuclear power plants will be still used. :-D

Half supports the engine has one very big advantage. Piston not friction on the walls of the "cylinder""Only the seals frictions cylinder

Thanks to these properties, the engine may be running on ... the coal dust.
Rudolf Diesel's first engine was built just on the coal dust, but unfortunately zacierał is at work. In the case of half rotate, will not look any login problems.Simply does not have any large surface friction


http://www.new4stroke.com/halfrotate400.gif


http://www.new4stroke.com/halfwater.jpg


Only the directory should be chosen for personal seal. Each round you can straighten lines, of course, resistant to coal dust.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6hwiz0QXsE

http://www.passerotti.com.pl/page/pol/download/549P.pdf


Regards Andrew :-D:-D

[Feliks]

Will sufficient heat be generated in the exhaust to be used ina combined cycle situation?

Yes, combined cycle, but also the latest trends ...
http://www.gizmag.com/thermoelectric-cars-improve-mpg/10928/

And since it has to work at the coal face powder (same what they use today's power plants for combustion in boilers).
can seals with carbon, similar to the scrubbing of electric motors
http://hariramco.com/carbon-brushes.html

http://www.dpaonthenet.net/article/47129/C...ompressors.aspx

Star engines were characterized biggest always force density

http://www.new4stroke.com/starhalfrotate5.gif

http://www.new4stroke.com/elastic%20hose.jpg


Below picture of the star half rotate around 10 (40) with "cylinders". for the transparency of the picture one can see only 3 additional "cylinders" more than is at the animated film.
One can also see dimensions of the whole of the engine in the assumption that every cylinder has such dimensions for the picture half rotate with the set connecting rod of the Sulzer D= engine of 900 mm and stroke 2500 mm .

http://www.new4stroke.com/half10.jpg

So 10 (40) "cylindrical" engine half rotate about the same working capacity in comparing to the Sulzer 10 engine cylindrical on the picture below .

Sulzer: 10 Cylinders 20 m long , 15 m hight , 1500 Ton weight

Half rotate star : 10(40) "Cylinders" 4,5 m diameter , 4,5 m long
about 70 ton weight.

http://www.new4stroke.com/sulzer1.jpg

And most importantly.. Since in the engine half rotate mass innertia are several times Sulzer smaller than in the engine, engine half rotate can work with the much greater rotation speed.
Slzer : 102 RPM 60 000 KW

Half rotate 250 RPM 150 000 KW

In same intake work volume .

And now, the efficiency of the engine, due to the friction of the walls of the cylinder to rise about 5%. That is, it is the most efficient machine for the heat, whose efficiency exceeds 50% of the.

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2249

Regards Andrew:mrgreen:

[BLeeKii]

And in the meantime since the formation of the ideas, changes a lot. For example, go beyond the "magic circle of the cylinder" was the hardest thing.
When I discovered it, a new type of timing, was the new 4 stroke engine:


http://www.new4stroke.com/male.jpg



Phil Irving & Jack Brabham had a similar principle with just one piston for cycle control & relied on ports similar to a two-stroke.
Another bloke here in Australia came about something very much like it about 10years ago & posted video's of modified farm bike with ballistic improvements in performance.
Unfortunately the Brabham family still own the rights & had him withdraw the video's & stop building them.
I still have a couple of the video's on my HDD, it's main features being a large reduction in internal drag & a MASSIVE boost in Torque.
It was nicknamed the '6-stroke' even though it wasn't due to the marrying of the two different types of cycles.
There's still plenty of info out there about the principle though, but you can always try this page for a start; http://home.speedbit.com/search.aspx?site=web&prevsite=web&aff=105&q=Beare+6-stroke&sa=++Search++
I hope this has added some interesting food for thought:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/540421_10150791683828410_526893409_11689770_157460 8261_n.jpg

Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

You can see how the valve is on the sides, despite the Guide Therefore poped or not evenly sitting and deflects.Which precision is not speech.
Which is the technology that has no possibility of development-convicted on that.So the valves break and flow into the cylinder.Because working in temp. 800 degrees Celsius (or are very white, not red). And the way the power of traditional valves, little changes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feat...p;v=BBxVPOCrznQ

Andrew:mrgreen:

[Feliks]

http://www.powermag.com/blog/index.php/2011/03/14/a-short-history-of-nuclear-power-in-japan/

Fear think about what would happen, if not given these five cents....

Andrew ;-)



Is it possible Tsunami from the Mainland ???

Yes of course ...

As such, things appear to the local river.....


http://cs-imx.s3.amazonaws.com/static/dailypic/20120615/17034.jpg

Wishing you to never be so does not become.

anxious Andrew:?:

[Feliks]

http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/gadgets-electronics/photos/eco-photos-of-the-week-april-25-may-1/landslide-buries-highway

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010044629_webmudslide11m.html



If not yet, unfortunately, there was no Internet....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvCkH5yLoYo

Andrew:-(

[Feliks]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2011/mar/17/japanese-helicopters-water-nuclear-reactor-video
17 March 2011

And faith in the power of the defence forces....


Defence force always better than the force of reason...

Andrew:-(

[Feliks]

http://enenews.com/high-radiation-level-around-plant-prevents-helicopters-dumping-water-spent-fuel-rods-fukushima

Whether the IAEA supports still so cooling reactors, or changed the sentence. ??

Andrew:?::?:

[Feliks]

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/focus/fukushima/statusreport270412.pdf

The new rule :

No Atoms for Peace. Atoms only for War

As teh proved in practice, the spent fuel pools are more dangerous than the same reactors. Probably because of this need not be the same as the reactor containment, ...

Because the fuel in the reactor can be serious, but nonetheless the same fuel in the swimming pool of the spent fuel, no longer is dangerous....

Probably because the spent fuel pools are similar to garden pools


And again the Pyramids ...

http://everist.org/pics/Fukushima/Fukushima_pyramids_large.png

And the few words the truth about " swimming pools."

http://everist.org/archives/Fukushima/2012...ge_of_Fuku3.htm (http://everist.org/archives/Fukushima/20120430_Message_of_Fuku3.htm)

Regards Andrew :?:

[Feliks]

Here's how you can do a little organize with the scrap on 3 reactor.

You need to hire such a tool for cutting of metal from BP, hung it on the lift along with the camera, take the handle of the solenoid.


http://calmap.gisc.berkeley.edu/dwh_doc_link/Graphics/Riser_Removal_large.jpeg

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/img/bagua/2010/06/01/CRAW_2.JPG

Also imaginative robot works underwater he have ... also I have seen them.

Andrew ;-)

[Feliks]

Nice look at the animation:

http://www.javys.sk/en/nuclear-facilities/interim-spent-fuel-storage/interim-spent-fuel-storage

Andrew

And my animation, showing what you can do in 4 Fourth swimming pool in Fukushimie.
You need to build a new building, to the basement of the reactor building to insert with three new reactors, only to store the fuel. They manage any guarantees when possible earthquakes.After filling all the water also will be a guarantee of the & span settlement.

http://www.new4stroke.com/nuclear.gif


Andrew:-P

[Feliks]

Whether engineers will pretend that the atomists still do not know the new inverter UPS Technology on batteries, which in the case of a power failure, it is ready within fractional seconds to the provisioning of the full effect of emergency systems ???
Of course, some diesel then can long function.

But I think, with this reason for savings, because and so nuke is already insanely expensive.

http://www05.abb.com/global/scot/scot235.n...chure_rev_c.pdf (http://www05.abb.com/global/scot/scot235.nsf/veritydisplay/1fbaf829798d9615c1257870003576c1/$file/des_brochure_rev_c.pdf)

Andrew:-)

May repulsion to techniques derived from green energy does not permit widely its integrity in nuke ...;-)

[Feliks]

Monument to the victims of the earthquake in its epicentre in Tashkent. You can see clearly the huge cavity, in which the trees are growing, and despite their vertices do not protrude above the ground of the monument, the cavity is approx. 50 m depth.
And talk to someone it does not appear that build the atomic power stations on earthquake-resistant, ...Jan Christian Andersen Fairy Tales. ...
I have seen. I recommend a trip atomist engineers in particular.

http://en.rian.ru/images/16370/83/163708353.jpg


Andrew:angry:

[Feliks]

In order to provide the reactors in Fukushime from the bottom you have the mechanical tunnel.
Then insert the two meters in diameter with 20 tubes. , Do the holes from the top and side, and on the bottom line fire resistant ZrO2. For large pipes enter the small tube to remove radioactive leaks or cooling corium had reached there...


http://www.herrenknecht.com/fileadmin/redaktion/PDF_Downloads/Direct_Pipe_Fly_GB_09-12-21.pdf

http://www.herrenknecht.com/fileadmin/redaktion/PDF_Downloads/AVN250XC_AVN700XC_DB_GB_08-10-29.pdf


http://www.new4stroke.com/herenknecht.jpg

Certainly not the cheapest, but it will give guarantees that the radioactive materials do not enter the land and ocean

Regards Andrew

[Feliks]

Can to remove scrap metal from the reactor 3 can use these electromagnetic grippers?
Also for attaching various devices and cameras probably would be useful..
http://magnetix.com.pl/images/stories/produkty/eo-1.jpg

http://elektromagnesy.pl/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/chwytaki_okragle_1.jpg

Andrew
:-)

[Feliks]

Whether, if the sprayer to the treadmill, for example, a car, it will be more supportive of animals?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_mill

http://www.degial.com/india/tygiel/kierat2.JPG

Andrew ;-)

[Feliks]

I wonder if to ask if these two smiling at us men to graciously evacuated their asses out of this car, it would be possible instead of carriage them to produce some electricity for us? Since drivers are not needed, because the car is harnessed to the treadmill and drivin in circles .. But one thing is certain, that such a vehicle driving the external energy, we will have the wind, regardless of the weather ... AJ is here the energy produced is sufficient to maintain the treadmill speed, it will be good .... And maybe even a few kilowatts for us is for our use ....
And it is always, regardless of the weather ... I do not need to go to the desert to breaking records. This can be done on the treadmill near the house...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkcn8ZkvKKc&feature=plcp

http://news.discovery.com/autos/how-do-wind-powered-cars-work-111207.html

http://www.new4stroke.com/carwind.jpg


http://www.new4stroke.com/Racecar.jpg


Andrew:-D