GTR3 website bust

[usfwoody]

.se is a Swedish internet country code, so I assume the people that are putting together simbin.se (the future site for GTR3) are in Sweden. Its 10am for me (EST) so that puts Sweden at what time? 4pm. Still nothing on the teaser site :thumbdown: If today comes and goes and they havent even updated this early hype avenue, im probably going to close the book on Simbin. I started with Race 07 and now im playing Shift 2 (for fun and with physics mods). pCARS and rFactor 2 look like they outclass GTR3 already, so it'll take a lot for me to give Simbin my money in the future.

[Siggs]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/030/403/YouMad.jpg?1260647699

(I overuse this image waaay to much :lol: )

[gears]

Interesting.

We haven't seen any screen shots of GTR3 yet, no information on features or anything, but pCARS and rF2 "outclass" it?

Seems your mind is made up before you have any facts. Smart move :thumbup:

[hompe]

16:32 in sweden :P

[freejrs]

My mind is also made up before I have seen any facts.

I will buy this game regardless.

SIMBIN's track record speaks for itself so I doubt very much we will see any drop in quality from GTR3..........surely it will be their best effort yet. :thumbup:

[gears]

My mind is also made up before I have seen any facts.

I will buy this game regardless.

SIMBIN's track record speaks for itself so I doubt very much we will see any drop in quality from GTR3..........surely it will be their best effort yet. :thumbup:

Agreed wholeheartedly!

No wait.... I'm going to make up some "arbitrary" time in my head that the website should be up. It's not up yet so screw it! :angry:

:laugh:

[alex291190]

.se is a Swedish internet country code, so I assume the people that are putting together simbin.se (the future site for GTR3) are in Sweden. Its 10am for me (EST) so that puts Sweden at what time? 4pm. Still nothing on the teaser site :thumbdown: If today comes and goes and they havent even updated this early hype avenue, im probably going to close the book on Simbin. I started with Race 07 and now im playing Shift 2 (for fun and with physics mods). pCARS and rFactor 2 look like they outclass GTR3 already, so it'll take a lot for me to give Simbin my money in the future.

http://chocolatenyanko.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png?w=300&h=232

[gears]

Just saw this on my twitter feed from SimBin Studios:

Counting down...

I'm guessing the site will be up in 10 minutes ;)

[alex291190]

I just got all excited inside :D

[chalbi]

Is simbin.se down or is it just on my PC? Or they have some enormous traffic right now. ;)

[usfwoody]

Ok, I get the whole judgement before the facts thing, but lets be honest, the screen grab of the pit lane wall looks like a moderate improvement over GTR-evo. pCARS already looks amazing, and with their community involvement, probably will only get better. oh, and since rfactor wasnt sucessful I guess that means rFactor2 will be crap to, correct? <-biting sarcasm. As an office worker, 4pm means just about the end of my day. I suppose Simbin and their s/w engineers work later or whatever, but give me a break. Core hours people. What if the site goes down, do you want to have the office empty when that happens, or staffed with your employees?

edit: I work in a simulation company that could conceivably do a game like this (we dont do video games but the potential is there) and I can guaran-damn-tee that we would never have a new website go live during off hours. Dont bother asking which company, since I know I sound like an ass in this thread :-p that would just be bad form.

[alex291190]

Ok, I get the whole judgement before the facts thing, but lets be honest, the screen grab of the pit lane wall looks like a moderate improvement over GTR-evo. pCARS already looks amazing, and with their community involvement, probably will only get better. oh, and since rfactor wasnt sucessful I guess that means rFactor2 will be crap to, correct? <-biting sarcasm. As an office worker, 4pm means just about the end of my day. I suppose Simbin and their s/w engineers work later or whatever, but give me a break. Core hours people. What if the site goes down, do you want to have the office empty when that happens, or staffed with your employees?

The Nurburgring pit wall looks the same in 2 games. Good god. :mrgreen:

[usfwoody]

The Nurburgring pit wall looks the same in 2 games. Good god. :mrgreen:

The wall man looks like an N64 goldeneye character. Boy, I didnt suppose this would sound like a troll thread or a flame war, but I wanted to voice my frustration. I get it, im impatient. :twisted:

[jayblue]

Seems like there is a lot of traffic heading to the Simbin website...

[maeckie]

Is simbin.se down or is it just on my PC? Or they have some enormous traffic right now. ;)

right, can´t even reach the "cleaning for xmas"-page now....

-> some more minutes :-P

[alex291190]

I bet everyone and there dog is trying to get on right now.

[triskele10]

Here is a screenshot

[MagpieRacer]

.se is a Swedish internet country code, so I assume the people that are putting together simbin.se (the future site for GTR3) are in Sweden. Its 10am for me (EST) so that puts Sweden at what time? 4pm. Still nothing on the teaser site :thumbdown: If today comes and goes and they havent even updated this early hype avenue, im probably going to close the book on Simbin. I started with Race 07 and now im playing Shift 2 (for fun and with physics mods). pCARS and rFactor 2 look like they outclass GTR3 already, so it'll take a lot for me to give Simbin my money in the future.

Hell of a sim racing resumé there, Race 07 and Shift 2? Please, if your gonna flame Simbin for releasing details when they are good and ready, at least bring some decent credentials to the table.

rFactor 2, looks like rFactor one with some new visual effects and a bit of weather, CARS looks good yes, based off of the Shift 2 engine, still around 2-3 years away from release.

GTR3, we know nothing of, but even if it is mostly the same as GTR2 but slightly updated it will wipe the floor with Shift 2 and whatever other simcade games you play.

[jayblue]

Screenshot looks good.

[MagpieRacer]

Here is a screenshot

Where did you find this?

[triskele10]

Where did you find this?

Raceroom

[usfwoody]

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBZbIQQPBmF12GV00T-MVIwESynjcVYuRsW5tNTPyT6RfvyWcx

Credentials... really? I was just giving my frame of reference. That screen shot looks good, sure, but it wasnt available when I was forming my opinion. Let me guess Magpie, you sound like the entitled iRacer. Si o No?

[MagpieRacer]

No actually, had a bit of a stint on it but cant say I really got into it that much.

[Street Racer 77]

http://www.virtualr.net/gtr3-first-screenshot-released

[usfwoody]

hmph, I wiffed on that shot bad. I feel I check virtualr pretty religiously to get the scoop on this sort of thing, but I guess I didnt that day. Ok, points taken.

Have a warning and have a good day.

[Scorz]

Screenshot looks alot better than i was expecting. Seems they are gonna match the sounds with some nice eye candy. Looks very SHIFT 1 visually

[Kazumi]

screenshot edited or not? ;)

[brabham67]

screenshot edited or not? ;)

Not sure, but I have seen Shift1/2 screenshots that look as good, so I have to assume its real, and not 'shopped.

Is this all they are giving us today? I thought we'd get more than one screenie..... Not a problem, just askin... ;-)

[Chopchop]

This car and the Nürburgring-ish images...makes me wonder if the game is going to be based on Nürburgring 24 hours?

[Street Racer 77]

This car and the Nürburgring-ish images...makes me wonder if the game is going to be based on Nürburgring 24 hours?

Don't think so. Look at the Numberplate. They use a fictional one.

[Kazumi]

Not sure, but I have seen Shift1/2 screenshots that look as good, so I have to assume its real, and not 'shopped.

Is this all they are giving us today? I thought we'd get more than one screenie..... Not a problem, just askin... ;-)
well... didn't say it isn't real. it's just that Simbin used to spice up previous R07 addons screenies with contrast and other image enhancements, motion blur and lens flare effects. look at the race injection pictures http://www.raceroom.com/en/news.html?page=1&news_id=156

[brabham67]

Don't think so. Look at the Numberplate. They use a fictional one.


...and it says Raceroom.net on the bottom.... I hope this next title isn't filled with a bunch of adverts for Raceroom.

[brabham67]

well... didn't say it isn't real. it's just that Simbin used to spice up previous R07 addons screenies with contrast and other image enhancements, motion blur and lens flare effects. look at the race injection pictures http://www.raceroom.com/en/news.html?page=1&news_id=156


I do the same with my screens, but your right. I so want to believe that GTR3 will be all that and a bag of chips that it's to easy to lose perspective.

[usfwoody]

FYI, its up now. I take full credit for that. Keeping their feet to the fire. :mrgreen:

[gears]

I think the thread title should be changed: GTR3 Website Win :mrgreen:

[Tkrau]

...a little late in saying...

It's not at all uncommon for domain names, and the sites that use them, to be set up/activated early just so the name(s) aren't taken by someone else...think of it as a sort-of reservation.

[gears]

UPDATE: The picture of the car is an unedited screenshot directly taken from the game

http://www.racedepartment.com/2011/12/gtr-3-first-screenshot/

[Street Racer 77]

Unbelievable, isn't it :O

[SwedishFrog]

Ladies....and Gentlemen....All good things come to those who wait ?
Yeah, right ! LOL Tack sa mycket nu helvete.....
I came BACK to GTR 2 from S2u/Shift....pure quality SIM-ulator; not SimARCADE.

[DurgeDriven]

screenshot edited or not? ;)



;) Can't tell @1280 :P

If it was that good why not post 1920. :?:

[gears]

It's been confirmed by SimBin that it is an actual in-game shot. See my post with link above.

[SwedishFrog]

Gear .... your Swedish-Ferrari/Volvo logo makes me laugh out loud... L O L...every time I see it. Thank for the simple humour. (Photoshop is great too)

[colosus]

I have to say that I'm a Big fan of Simbin...i been racing there creations back in the day EA's F1 99,2000,2001,2002 & Challenge 99-02, where they first hit the seen with there GTR mods...it was so damn good..

http://www.racesimulations.com/F12002/GTR2002/mods.html

Not to mention the newer.. real.. Full games GTR, GTR2 & the rest, and now GTR3 wow.... i only hope they can match the looks of there game to that of Shift 2 and GT5, dont get me wrong..if its a sim i dont care about the looks..but hang on a sec i not only wanner feel like i'm racing a real car but i want it to look like one too..lets face it..with PC's today and there new core processors..we know it can be done..so please make this better looking than Shift 2, they can be sure i will be buying it if they do..it will be the Best Sim out there.. :thumbup:
Heres a couple of screens Simbin GTR2002 Blast from the past mod (EA F1 2002)
And Please no Digital Enhanced screens..

[martinsalat]

i think the most people the made EA's F1 GTR mods are works now for sms in "project cars".

[colosus]

are you saying that the guys behind the Fia GT Mod V3 that was Simbin and others who helped.. are not really the guys who made GTR...or you mean they left and joined up with Project C.A.R.S ? and all that was left made GTR real racing ?
Either way it looks hot if thats not superemposed screenshot..

[Kazumi]

yeah kinda... the "SimBin" SimBin split into SimBin and Blimey!

while Slightly Mad were formed by former Blimey! members (who were in that "SimBin" SimBin before that)

maybe someone can explain it better :mrgreen:


edit: you'll also see Blimey! credited in GTR2 and GTL.

Quote: UPDATE: The picture of the car is an unedited screenshot directly taken from the game
:thumbup:

we'll see ;-)

[gears]

:thumbup:

we'll see ;-)

It's been confirmed by two people from SimBin and 6e66o:

I can assure you, this is how the game looks. No photoshop magic involved - 6e66o

http://www.racedepartment.com/2011/12/gtr-3-first-screenshot/

[freejrs]

Don't see why people are so sceptical about the screeshot to be honest. It's not particularly spectacular really........I sense there are a lot of people who really want this game to suck.

Sorry buddies. Not going to happen. :-)

[zaxos]

It' s the initial fear that s being expressed...
Most of the people tha are sceptical right now, will LOVE the game later.
And don' t forget: patience is a virtue!!!

[guybo]

Based on that screenshot you can ell they screwed up the physics, there is way too much grip!!11 I can't believe Simbin screwed this up so bad! they will never get my money again! OMG WTF BBQ!!111

[hoboholic]

Based on that screenshot you can ell they screwed up the physics, there is way too much grip!!11 I can't believe Simbin screwed this up so bad! they will never get my money again! OMG WTF BBQ!!111

I C WUT U DID THAR :laugh:

As far as the Simbin question goes the way I see it this is the timeline.

-The original Simbin created the GT mod for F1 Challenge
-They got contracted and made GTR, GT Legends and GTR2.
-There were disagreements and part of Simbin (Ian Bell and others) split and made Blimey!
-The remaining Simbin team, still under the name hired replacements and created Race and the Race 07 base (I say base because they utilised it as their hub for their expansion packs)
-Blimey! had some projects going but soon morphed into Slightly Mad Studios
-While Simbin was developing their EP's for Race07, the newly formed SMS were contracted by EA to make Need For Speed: Shift and later, Shift 2 Unleashed.

-Currently, Simbin (With a lot of the people who participated in the GT2002 mod for F1 Challenge) are in the process of developing GTR3 while SMS (With the employees that left Simbin earlier) are developing Project C.A.R.S.

I think thats pretty much how it goes... :thumbup:

[colosus]

well that pains me then...to know that about Simbin...
Strange maybe thats why i like Shift & Shift 2, as that was Slightly Mad Studios envolvement..that explains everything...thats why Project C.A.R.S looks so good..;-)

Still i have high hopes for GTR3..like always it will still go in my Collection of Race games and its a big selection, i think i still have there mods V3 on cd somewhere 8-)

Thanx for clearing that up Hoboholic... Project C.A.R.S will be on my list for sure..either way i will get em both..all i need now is a Race chair & a triple monitor setup..:laugh:

[Afterbirth]

Its unedited by them. Not by the game. Forza 4 does the very same.
Do pause, use available processing power to render a HD pic.

Hell even if thats 2560x1600 theres no way it'll run with say..16 cars at 60fps (well on most peoples PC's anyway).

TBH it doesn't look any different from any next gen racer really.

As for physics - well GTR2 aside (which to me felt quite different), they've all been relatively grippy really. Sims that are easier to play then the likes of Rfactor anyway.
But even assuming this changes the game is unliekly to have the rawness of pCARS (which few racers do if i'm honest). And that dirty gritty feeling which carried over from their work on Shift 2 is very welcome from me.

We'll see but i just didn't feel the Race to Raceroom evolution was a huge jump, but this is GTR and they're using a different engine so time will tell.

[Birddogg66]

...and it says Raceroom.net on the bottom.... I hope this next title isn't filled with a bunch of adverts for Raceroom.

If I were SimBin I would sell billboard space to advertisers to help keep my company financially stable and prices to consumers low. If only iRacing took that approach!!!

[Birddogg66]

I C WUT U DID THAR :laugh:

As far as the Simbin question goes the way I see it this is the timeline.

-The original Simbin created the GT mod for F1 Challenge
-They got contracted and made GTR, GT Legends and GTR2.
-There were disagreements and part of Simbin (Ian Bell and others) split and made Blimey!
-The remaining Simbin team, still under the name hired replacements and created Race and the Race 07 base (I say base because they utilised it as their hub for their expansion packs)
-Blimey! had some projects going but soon morphed into Slightly Mad Studios
-While Simbin was developing their EP's for Race07, the newly formed SMS were contracted by EA to make Need For Speed: Shift and later, Shift 2 Unleashed.

-Currently, Simbin (With a lot of the people who participated in the GT2002 mod for F1 Challenge) are in the process of developing GTR3 while SMS (With the employees that left Simbin earlier) are developing Project C.A.R.S.

I think thats pretty much how it goes... :thumbup: Yes I guess that about says it. Image Space developed games for EA Sports Car GT the F1 Challange Series and Nascar Thunder 03 and 04 so Slightly Mad has tried to follow the same path but different terms with the inclusion of Console versions of their titles and once ISI ended their involvement with EA That ended any true simulation that EA released.

[Tkrau]

If I were SimBin I would sell billboard space to advertisers...

That might be the rare exception to my NOT wanting to see real-world advertising in-game...real-world tracks do have billboards, etc all over the place (well, at least within camera view) and therefore real-world ads placed around in-game tracks would not be so blatantly obvious (especially at, or above, 175 mph or so on the Mulsanne Straight).

[Kazumi]

Yes I guess that about says it. Image Space developed games for EA Sports Car GT the F1 Challange Series and Nascar Thunder 03 and 04 so Slightly Mad has tried to follow the same path but different terms with the inclusion of Console versions of their titles and once ISI ended their involvement with EA That ended any true simulation that EA released.
yeah... in terms of sales EA probably made bad experience with pure simulations there. and they always had other versions on consoles which probably sold much better. ISI weren't able to do console versions.

[scca1981]

If I were SimBin I would sell billboard space to advertisers to help keep my company financially stable and prices to consumers low. If only iRacing took that approach!!!

I would gladly pay more money for tracks clean of advertising litter. Only the real life adverts should be included. The massive amount of "Raceroom", "Playseat" and "Simbin" banners all over the latest Race tracks ruined it for me. I HATE fake banners littered all over. Shift/2 did this too and I praised the moment mods were released to clean them up.

[SwedishFrog]

so sad,...when people can only complain and whine ,,,and speculate...because they have nothing else, constructive, to contribute. Go race some laps to blow off some steam in an FXX on ENNA.....or keep to yourself, we won't miss you ....LOL

>>> I'm having too much fun tuning by trial and error and racing laps and learning to brake more efficiently in rain /night/ day ..etc.... with autopilot on/off, in Simulator/no assists...to worry about that !

Skal !

[SwedishFrog]

That was directed to page one, end.. fellow racers... LOL

Real ads/banenrs like in races/tracks are expected...look at all the 'real' sponsors on the cars' liveries in GTR 2 ! Fantastic ! Makes it authentic.

I remember watching Nigel Mansell on F1, and they used a simulator for viewers to see the track line on TV....Silverstone...cool. So cool.

just my 2cc's.

I just have fun. Doesn't everyone else ? What can I say...it's Monday afternoon....

[giaserg]

Don't think so. Look at the Numberplate. They use a fictional one.

Yes, it would be a dream, and will be a dream, what would be important by simbin, is at least, they made it modding friendly and with a gameplay that support a full24h grid with 200 cars, lots of models and lots of skins, without the tipical GTR2 bugs in lapping the AI, and pit entries.

Then, the online racing is very important, I know, but is the offline what's matter!

[DurgeDriven]

so sad,...when people can only complain and whine ,,,and speculate...because they have nothing else, constructive, to contribute.


Which is exactly what you are doing now........ :-)

[Vince Klortho]

I C WUT U DID THAR :laugh:

As far as the Simbin question goes the way I see it this is the timeline.

-The original Simbin created the GT mod for F1 Challenge
-They got contracted and made GTR, GT Legends and GTR2.
-There were disagreements and part of Simbin (Ian Bell and others) split and made Blimey!
-The remaining Simbin team, still under the name hired replacements and created Race and the Race 07 base (I say base because they utilised it as their hub for their expansion packs)
-Blimey! had some projects going but soon morphed into Slightly Mad Studios
-While Simbin was developing their EP's for Race07, the newly formed SMS were contracted by EA to make Need For Speed: Shift and later, Shift 2 Unleashed.

-Currently, Simbin (With a lot of the people who participated in the GT2002 mod for F1 Challenge) are in the process of developing GTR3 while SMS (With the employees that left Simbin earlier) are developing Project C.A.R.S.

I think thats pretty much how it goes... :thumbup:

Close but not quite. The original Simbin Development Team, or SBDT as it was called then, first made FIA GT mods for SCGT. Later the team made the FIA GT v3 mod for F1 2001 and then the GTR02 mod for F1 2002. It never ever released anything for F1 Challenge. I know this because I was a member of the team until it was dissolved.

A little while after F1C came out a corporation was formed with Henrik Roos called Simbin and that company made the GTR game. Then several people split off to form Blimey! with 10tacle as a principal investor. Blimey! was contracted by Simbin to help make GTL and GTR2. Blimey! had nothing to do with the Race series of games and packs. After 10tacle went bankrupt SMS was formed and they worked on the NFS Shift games.

FWIW, most of Virtua_LM left to join Blimey! for the development of GTL and GTR2. A few have since returned, a few are still with SMS, a few got better gigs, and some have bagged racing games completely.

[goatrage]

GTR3 is worth the wait. I'm getting this too :)

[colosus]

Absolutely, it will be a winner for sure
I wonder if SlightlyMad had anything to do with it...even if it was a very tiny part..
What i mean is..i suppose guys from SlightlyMad still talk and do stuff with Simbin....maybe they go out once in a while and drink,chat and pass comments on what problems they got in game..or how to resolve a technical ingame prob never come across before...who knows..its happend in many games in the past..
I'm just speculating...:laugh:

Can't wait to see a vid of some cars doing intense laps...:thumbup:

sorry guys i had to post this vid..this guy went to extreme lenghts for his vid that he got suited up in real race gear then only to play the game on such a tiny monitor...just made me laugh, not only that but he f**ed up the title of the vid..4years ago...no affense m8 if your reading this :mrgreen:
http://vimeo.com/402160

[SwedishFrog]

! DurgeDriven....my bad :-P I can't will/wait to test a beta...or even an alpha !
I wonder if they would consider charging a small fee to test drive some samples/sections at full resolution etc.... for CTD... etc... would be interesting as teaser :thumbup: ?

..."blow-off' gear shift up...noise"


LOL:-D