-= No-Grip RBR Season 1 =-

[Midi]

So, we have had few races and i think it's time to start a season.

We drive via checzh plugin: http://rbr.onlinegames.cz/index.php?setlng=eng And how to start quide: http://rbr.onlinegames.cz/index.php?act=al&p=howtostart

If you have any questions of how to use the plugin or other problems please ask them here: http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3757

We will drive with default RBR(1.02) cars, physics and tracks so you don't need any modifications, expect the plugin above. Reduced damage model.

We don't have a rally calendar, we will drive some shakedown events and ~monthly a rally where you score points.

We will drive with 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 points system.

Please sign up here, tell your name or nickname at plugin site and what car you will drive.

Season 1 Drivers:

Midi ......................... Subaru Impreza 03
Rallyfan .................... Peugeot 206
guybo ...................... Citroen Xsara
Lord_Verminaard ........ Toyota Corolla
Franciscof ................ Subaru Impreza 03
YorT ....................... Hyundai Accent
Bino Santos .............. Citroen Xsara
MatraRancho ............ Citroen Xsara
Rui Almeida .............. Subaru Impreza 03

Rallies:

1. Pirelli rally of GB, 28th of September to 3rd of October. (http://rbrczech.rbrmcr.com/index.php?act=tourmntsview&torid=541bf9bb48015ea754f14f5198e2bc29)
2. Arctic lapland rally of Finland, 2nd of November to 8th of November. (http://rbrczech.rbrmcr.com/index.php?act=tourmntsview&torid=c51cc0bd54fb3d6587e87ee1bbac311c)
3. Ramada Express rally of USA, 16nd of November to 25th of November. (http://rbrczech.rbrmcr.com/index.php?act=tourmntsview&torid=a2eb44e48bf0d2dd99d076b848fdcc7a)
4. Rallye de France - Tour de Corse, Delayed.

Season 1 Leaderboard:
(After 3 rallies.)
1. Midi ..................... 30 points
2. Matra rancho ......... 17 points
3. Rallyfan ................ 16 points
-. Lord_Verminaard ..... 16 points
4. YorT ..................... 8 points
-. Franciscof .............. 8 points
5. Rui Almeida ............. 6 points
6. JamesGT................. 4 points

-- guybo ................. 0 points
-- Bino Santos ......... 0 points

[Rallyfan]

I'm in :wave:

Same nickname and driving with the 206

[guybo]

guybo is in with the Xsara.

[guybo]

Might not be a bad idea to make the races public, but only the people who answered in this thread are eligible for No-Grip Championship points. But it'd be cool to have this password protected too so only No-Grippers can join up. Your scoring is OK, but maybe have second place be 8 points?

What does everyone think of SuperRally? In WRC next year they will have SuperRally, but if you use it you will not be eligible for season driver championship points. That may not be a bad idea for us as well. We could make the penalty 300 seconds (like WRC.)

[Midi]

Might not be a bad idea to make the races public, but only the people who answered in this thread are eligible for No-Grip Championship points. But it'd be cool to have this password protected too so only No-Grippers can join up. Your scoring is OK, but maybe have second place be 8 points?


Now i don't quite understand, make the rallys public but have a password, then it's not public imo. :confused::

Maybe i'll change the scoring into what it's in real WRC now, 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1. And we will not use super-rally.

[Lord_Verminaard]

I've been working 2 jobs lately but I'd still like to give it a try. Cant promise I'd make every race. Especially the reversed stages, those are hard for me to get motivated for. :P But count me in with the Toy. :D Or, just for fun, could I use the MG?

Brendan

[guybo]

I was saying that either way it good- they both have thier merits. Either with a password OR public.

I wish I could use a Focus though. Lately I've been using it and I am liking it more than the Citroen. It's a little quicker to flick around and more nimble than the Xsara.

[Franciscof]

hi ppl i like sign for your championship

Plugin Francisco Fonseca

car? only wrc? or i can use fiesta s1600

better ralis with password

who first rally?

Thx and sorry for questions and inglish :P

[YorT]

I'll race the Hyundai Accent :)

I think a password will be good, that way only N0-Grip guys can immediately compare times etc.

[Midi]

Okay, we will use password in tournaments and only those who are signed up here get the championship points.

And no you can't use any addon cars and i don't recommend of MGS1600 either because there won't be separate S1600 class.

Franciscof:

"We don't have a rally calendar, we will drive some shakedown events and ~monthly a rally where you score points. "

[Lord_Verminaard]

Ah well. :) Count me in with the Toy then. :)

Brendan

[Franciscof]

ok

Car: subaru 03

[guybo]

The Czech plugin is down and there are problems going on with the Czech team. I personally think the end has come for the Czech plugin and if someone doesn't figure out how they did it and make another site that the end is come. Read about it on BHMS.

So the next order of business for us is to find a replacement for our rallies. I suggest http://domain863178.sites.fasthosts.com/rsrbrlive/global_index_live.asp and making a public session just for us. We can make several sessions so that everyone can be involved. You need RSRBR3 in order to play on RSRBRLive. The problem with it is that there is no damage carry over, so it is a hotlap rally site, but you get any track with any surface and also 91+ cars to choose from.

[Franciscof]

czech plugin up...

and now? :)

[Midi]

Yeah i don't see anything wrong at the plugin site ;)

[guybo]

It was out for a week, but it came back today.

[guybo]

Here's a thought for one of the rallies:

http://www.bhmotorsports.com/board/download.php?id=13886 this is a link to d/l the Light For Night mod. It'd be great if we could do one night rally. The problems are that 1) it'd be on the honor system since there is no way to check if the mod is active 2) everyone would need to have the mod (it's really easy to install and uninstall) 3) it hurts your frame rate so you have reduce your graphics settings while you use it.

It'd only be one rally and it'd be a lot of fun. It's a suggestion, so just mull it over.

[Franciscof]

link error :(

[Midi]

Well i have tried it and on my comp and it was unplayable because of the framerate. So i think we won't use it. What kind a specs you have guybo?

[guybo]

I have to drop down to 800x600 and also reduce my graphics quality and still that plugin makes my game run a little slow (still playable however)

P4 2.8 ghz
6600
1500 MB DDR400

[vrmx]

I say that's a no go then. I don't like to mess with settings to run one mod. Though I haven't evem said I'll join the season yet :).

[Midi]

Well. I think we could start our season.

First event will be 27.9 - 3.10 and it's Pirelli rally of GB. Stages are default GB stages.

I'll put one shakedown/test event this weekend so that everyone can test that plugin and things is working for the real event.

[guybo]

Do you mean September 27 to October 3?

[Midi]

Oh sorry, i will correct them :roflmao:

[Midi]

Shakedown event now open: http://rbrczech.rbrmcr.com/index.php?act=tourmntsview&torid=1bfd95b110c77b5c4a23d275d972da40

[guybo]

Well, I did the shakedown. Too bad we don't have any other app we can use for this. IMHO the Czech plugin is just too buggy to use for any sort of organized competition. I did a few practice stagesa and worked on my setups. This was in quick rally mode. Then I shut down and restarted the game. The plugin still royally ****ed up my setup. I don't know why it does it. The devs of the plugin have pretty much given up on fixing the bugs- the setup bug, the various random time penalties for no reason and that you have to restart the game to play after playing offline.

I'm glad we have this rally season- it'll be fun even if the plugin is screwed. I just wish we could use something like RSRBRLive even if it doesn't have damage carry over and service. At least with it you can tweak your setups between races and you don't have to have just the 3 setup slots.

[Midi]

I haven't had any problems with plugin...

[Lord_Verminaard]

Me either. I've even done some quick rallys then directly entered the plugin and had no problems. ??? I think it locked up on me one time, but I dont remember what I was doing that made it happen.

Brendan

[guybo]

Even with a fresh install the plugin has given me all kinds of problems. It's caused RBR to crash before, it messes up my setups (this is a known bug if you check the plugin forums), it messes up after a quick stage and there is also a known problem with Sipirkakim where the plugin asseses a penalty of 33 seconds for no reason. Also the plugin will sometimes assess penalties for no reason. I'm jealous of you guys who have no prblems with the plugin, but maybe because I have 3243 KM on the plugin that I have found every possible problem.

I didn't realize we could restart! Can I redo the rally?

[Midi]

Well, i think you can request tournament reset and i can allow it. But there will be another shakedown next weekend.

ps, 4628.6 km on plugin ;)

[guybo]

Nah, I'm all set. I have deleted both my RBR installations and reinstalled the game and all my mods. I did Sipirkakim on the plugin today and I did not get the penalty, so maybe it's all set now. I hope anyway.

[Franciscof]

guybo penalty is 33s?

if yes, this penalty "normal" in cz pluguin

see

http://rbrczech.rbrmcr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=141


P.s. - sorry you post in this topic :P

[guybo]

Yeah, that's the one. It's part of the problem with the plugin. It's a known problem that's been with the plugin through the last 2 patches, the devs know about it and still do nothing about it. It's frustrating because they just don't do anythng about it.

I still use the plugin, but I don't think it's a good way to conduct any sort of compitition because the creators won't address the problems with it. It's too bad because it is the one app with the most potential for RBR. If they would incorperate RSRBR3 and different textures for the stages than they would really have something great. I IM'ed with Wally a few times and he has no interest in it though. No reason why, just doesn't :confused::

[Franciscof]

sign my team mate ok?

Plugin: Bino Santos

Car: Xsara


p.s sorry edit

[Midi]

I would like to see him registered here before he can enter the season.

[Bino Santos]

Hy Guys!
Well, sign me!
Driver: Bino Santos
Car: Xsara T4
Position: in a tree :D

It's ok now?Can I play?

Regards

[Midi]

Yes you are in now, welcome :)

[Matra-Rancho]

Hello,

I will try it too and if you choose the "10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1" pointing system we all get points when we reach the finish.

Name: MatraRancho
Car: Citroen Xsara

Position: service garage :banghead:

regards MR

[guybo]

What damage level are we going to use? Realistic (I hope)?

[Franciscof]

I think Better Reduced, but....

[Midi]

We will use reduced because of the headgasket problem with realistic damage.

First post updated.

[Matra-Rancho]

Hello,

I started the No-Grip Shakedown yesterday with driving the stage 1 & 2. Today I want to finish the last two stages from the shakedown, but it is not showing in the tournament-list in RBR - it's showing at the czech-pugin site under "opened tournaments". Why? Is it a mistake by me?

regardsMR

[Midi]

You can't resume tournaments, you have to drive all the stages at once.

[Matra-Rancho]

Hello,

aaahh, ok. thanks.

regards MR

[guybo]

How does the head gasket problem happen?

I LFB all the time and almost exclusively use realistic damage, but the only time I ever get a blown head gasket is when I get into a truly spectacular crash (and have to use SuperRally and the 90 minute Rally RZ to continue). Even when specifically trying to blow my head gasket just to see the problem meyself I have not been able to do it.

For once! A bug in the game that DOES NOT affect me!

[Lord_Verminaard]

Strange. I dont think I've ever blown a headgasket. Although I do seem to blow the clutch every time I so much as tap a tree or stump. :P Even on reduced damage.

Brendan

[Midi]

How does the head gasket problem happen?

Well, for me it happens almost very stage if driving with realistic damage. Headgasket just blows up at some point of the stage or then slowly gets damage during stage. And in the end you may have some 50hp left in your engine. :down:

[Matra-Rancho]

Well, i think you can request tournament reset and i can allow it. But there will be another shakedown next weekend.

Hello,

isn't it this weekend...?

regards MR

[Midi]

Yeah but i have been very busy with other things, maybe we will drive it next week just before the rally.

[Rui Almeida]

I'm in.

Well, sign me!

Driver: Rui Almeida

Car: Subaru Impreza WRC2003

Position: I expect to be first!!! :D

Can I play?

[Midi]

Sure, welcome Rui :wave:

[Rui Almeida]

I only found the "No-Grip: Pirelli rally of GB Shakedown", where is the
"No-Grip: Pirelli rally of GB", could you post here a direct link to it.;)

And i don't know the password, will come by mail???

thank's:)

[Midi]

Oh damn sorry, i haven't made the rally. Will make it at the morning. There will be new topic for it.

[Midi]

Leaderboard updated.

[Matra-Rancho]

Hello,

wow, only 50% finished. Congratulations to Midi for his outclassing victory :trophy: :up: . For me it was the fear to lose the car -because of the damages- to drive not really fast. The last two stages I'm getting more and more nervous about that, but reach the finish very happy. :)
Driving RBR with a gamepad is like sending a large text with morse code with the brake- and throttlebutton.

Waiting for the next event...

regards MR

[guybo]

I can't do rallies on less than realistic damage. It's ironic that I finish most rallies on realistic then crash out of most rallies on reduced. That's whjy I always rally on realistic damage. If I have that fear of real damage all the time, I do much better at keeping out of the rough.

[Midi]

I can't do rallies on less than realistic damage. It's ironic that I finish most rallies on realistic then crash out of most rallies on reduced. That's whjy I always rally on realistic damage. If I have that fear of real damage all the time, I do much better at keeping out of the rough.

I had this same problem sometime ago but it doesn't bother me anymore. I have used to drive always reduced.

[guybo]

We should change to realistic. IMHO- It's the only way to really race in RBR. The head gasket bug is not a bug- it is a result of beating on your engine too much when you drive. If you kill your engine on realistic damage, you have to change the way you drive.

Anyway, be that as it may, I don't think I'll do any more of these rallies. I don't know what it is about reduced damage, but it's useless for me to even try. It's in my head and it happens in any reduced damage rally. I DNF in my share of realistic rallies too, but my completion % in realistic rallies is much higher.

[Midi]

The headgasket thing is discussed so many times on different boards that i'm not going trough it again, we will drive with reduced damage.

Well if it's so, looks like you don't race with us. But you are welcome to come back if you "learn" to drive with reduced..

[YorT]

The aim of any community racing is the enjoyment of racing each other with the same conditions/parameters, so it is irrelavent what damage levels we are using because we are all in the same boat.

And the most important thing not to forget is to have FUN.:D

[Rallyfan]

And the most important thing not to forget is to have FUN.:D

That's true, i think reduced damage is good because that way more drivers will actually be able to finish the event (let's face it, only Midi can be concidered as a great driver no matter what the rules etc. are), and more drivers=more competition=more fun

[Midi]

Looks like i won't drive fo a while, my pedals are broken. But i'll try to arrange the rally of Finland soon.

[Midi]

Next rally announced at the first post :wave:

[Rallyfan]

Next rally announced at the first post :wave:

Perfect timing Midi :up:
Just during the school vacation so i am in surely :)

[Franciscof]

my car in championship

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1475/rbr036fs4.jpg

[Midi]

my car in championship



Could you share it, i could use it in videous for you.

[Midi]

And the next rally is USA, at 16th of November to 22th of November. :wave:

[Midi]

And the points are updated after 2 events.

[Midi]

Link to the USA rally is now at the first post.

[Midi]

Championship standings updated.

[Midi]

We will have now a break and next rally will be Rally France at January 2007 :wave:

[Midi]

It's been a while since last rally. :o

How does everybody feel, do you want to continue this season? We could have rally of France soon.

[Matra-Rancho]

...do you want to continue this season? We could have rally of France soon.
Hello,

yes :up:.

regards MR

[Midi]

Not too much interest, well maybe we could try one rally. 1-6 of march, rally of France.

[Matra-Rancho]

Not too much interest...
Hi,

yes, unfortunately it seems that the 'NoGrip-Rally Scene' is dozing off a little bit...:(. We also lost a member of the NG-Team at the czech-plugin.
This site has over 25.000 members, so we should able to find 10-15 people for a championchip...

...maybe we could try one rally. 1-6 of march, rally of France.
I don't like tarmac, but if we race I'm in :).

regards MR

[Midi]

French rally is delayed until the plugin site starts to work again(if it starts).

[Matra-Rancho]

Hi,

maybe the "RBRnet" is an option? I've no big experience with RBRnet. I try it today the first time and it works fine for me.

regards MR

[guybo]

RBRnet does not work with Vista so this would be an issue for some.

Are we going to try to resurrect this season or maybe start a 2nd season? When the plugin site went down it just killed this season.

[Midi]

Maybe we could, don't know how much i have interest to organize rallies but i have to think about it.