Post your system specs and frame rates

[MoonieGT]

I'm getting ready to build a new PC after over 4 years, and I'd like to see what kind of frame rates people are getting on their systems:

My proposed system is:

E6300 processor (possibly overclock...)
Gigabyet GA-P965 S3 motherboard
2 gigs of OCZ Gold ram
eVGA 7900GT

I'm hoping I can turn everything up to high with at least 20 cars and run 60+ frames at 1280x720 on my projector.

[Fletch]

ASUS A8N-E nForce 4 chipset
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (OC @ 2.5GHz)
2GB Corsair RAM (OC @ 415MHz)
ATI Radeon X1900XT 512MB (620/720MHz)
Enermax 500W PSU
Audigy 2 ZS-Platinum
2x old Samsung IDE HDD's

Res: 1280x960x32@60Hz
Renderer: DX9
FSAA: Level 2 (4x)

In-game settings all Full/High except shadows which are Medium; a big boost in FPS without losing much graphical quality.

I'd say about 80% of the time I'm above 60 FPS. If not 60, it's usually around 40 FPS but that is when there's a lot of cars around. It can drop to the 30's down the pit straight when there's ~40 cars at the track. In the rain it's pretty much the same but night racing it can go crap. I tend to turn off the high res stuff when I do 24H races so I can keep my FPS high.

GTR2 is more CPU based than GPU based, so, having a good CPU is the key to high FPS here, but, of course you do need a decent GPU.

Looking at your proposed specs, you should have no probs running the game. :up:

[KarlosDaJackal]

specs in my sig, get 120fps most of the time.

have everything in the game maxed, and anti-aliasing on the first level. Run the game at 1920x1200

On a busy track like spa with rain and lots of cars it might fall to 60 occasionally.

[Dan]

in our recent league race at hockenhiem I was getting about 150fps

system:
e6600 (2.4ghz) small overclock to 2.7ghz (stock cooler)
asus p5w64 ws pro motherboard
2gb gskill pc6400 'HZ'
radeon x1900xt
onboard sound

game settings:
1360x768 res (26" samsung hdtv)
level2 (4x) AA
dx9
8x Anistropic
ingame options - all high/full except shadows on medium.. havn't tested changing these settings yet

[Zieman]

e6600 (2.4ghz) small overclock to 2.7ghz (stock cooler)
What kind of temperatures you get? (Planning to build a new system w/ E6600 and thinking about oc options...)

[Dan]

according to intel thermal analysis tool, which is much better and more consistent than any mobo as it reads direct from the cpu itself, high 40's idle and low 70's with both cores under 100% load - which never happens running real life apps...
most mobo's show 10-15°c cooler temps at the same time ;)


I'm going to get a better cooler very soon though.. this intel one sucks :P, but I've given up on big overclocks as its too much hassle and noise, and with conroe we've finally got to the point where cpu's are fast enough not to need it :D

[Zieman]

@ GamePC.com they claim to have oc'd E6600 to 3,0 GHz w/"using stock air-cooling methods" (I quess not the stock Intel cooler though...) and 100% stability, very interesting ;)

[C6MadMan]

Intel D865PERL Motherboard
1 Gig Kingston 400 mem
Sound Blaster Audigy LS
XFX GeForce 5900 Ultra 256mb DDR
Gravis GamePad Pro. (Yeah, I use a gamepad to race with.)
Viewsonic 21" Digital

Everything is set to Full. I run at 1024X768 32.
I usually average between 70 and 100fps. Except for SpaFrance. With full field I will drop to 30-40fps

[Dan]

@ GamePC.com they claim to have oc'd E6600 to 3,0 GHz w/"using stock air-cooling methods" (I quess not the stock Intel cooler though...) and 100% stability, very interesting ;)

maybe they did, I just threw it in there at 300fsb (nice round number) and minimum volts and its running rock solid :D
previously I had it running @ 3.5ghz 24/7 watercooled until the old mobo threw a wobbly and fried the ram at the same time.. now I just can't be bothered anymore ;)

[MrYubby]

I'm new to NoGrip, nice to meet you. :)

I just built a new machine to run GTR2, here's the specs:

Intel CoreDuo E6700, overclocked to 2.93gHz
Intel 975XBX2KR motherboard
HIS Radeon XT1950 IceQ Turbo, 512MB
2GB Corsair OC memory

Run GTR2 at 1280x1024, 32bit, 72Hz refresh
DX9 rendering
2x Antialiasing
Anisotropic filtering set to auto (app preference)
Omega 3.8.291 Radeon drivers
DirectX image quality set to maximum
All details in GTR2 set to maximum, high fidelity replays
24-car field

This setup works great with GTR2, frame rates normally range from 65-140, with minor lag with some of the converted tracks. Nordschleife is the worst at 35-45fps in-car.

[phntomF16]

-AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
-Gigabyte GA-M59SLI-S4 mb with nForce 590 SLI chipset
-Corsair Value S. PC5300 DDR2 single stick of 1024MB RAM
-2 x GeForce 7900GS in SLI
-Soundblaster Audigy Platinum EX


Max details, Medium Shadows, 4xAA
1280 x 1024 resolution, 32-bit, 72 Hz

I get about 80 frames per second average, 16 car grid, dry weather.

[Zieman]

... I just threw it in there at 300fsb (nice round number) and minimum volts and its running rock solid :D ...

Sounds good :up:
I quess I'm gonna go that way too => less noise and less a chance of frying components :cool::

[Dan]

Sounds good :up:
I quess I'm gonna go that way too => less noise and less a chance of frying components :cool::

yep thats my plan now.. the 300fsb = 400mhz ram which is its rated speed, so thats also running at low volts now too ;)

TBH I dont notice any difference in GTL/GTR2 at the new lower cpu speed :)

[jsimmons]

EPoX EP-9NPA3ULTRA (nForce 4 Ultra chipset)
AMD Opteron 185
Scythe HSF (120mm fan)
2GB G.SKILL RAM
eVGA 8800GTX
Enermax 485W PSU (m/b and video card only)
Thermaltake 485W PSU (fans and drives)
SB Audigy
2x IDE HDD's
2x SATA-1 drives
Case: MountainMods UFO2 w/ four 120mm case fans on rheostats.
LCD: Hyundai L90D+

Res: 1280x1024x32@60Hz
Renderer: DX9
AA: 8x
AF: 16x
All in-game settings as high as they will go

[Fool_1njection]

You guys all have great rigs running 40+ frames but why dont u guys run with larger grids of cars like 30+ cars as the framerates for most should be above 25 which is like a perfect frame rate on the biggest tracks with no lag at all, trust me my friend runs 38 cars or 32 all the time and gets a minimum of 20 frames which is not really noticable lag as it only happens for a split second. He runs on max settings except shadows on medium with 1.5 gig ram 2core intell and Gforce 6800.

[jsimmons]

Anything below about 35fps gives me a headache.

[nology]

I'm getting ready to build a new PC after over 4 years, and I'd like to see what kind of frame rates people are getting on their systems:

My proposed system is:

E6300 processor (possibly overclock...)
Gigabyet GA-P965 S3 motherboard
2 gigs of OCZ Gold ram
eVGA 7900GT

I'm hoping I can turn everything up to high with at least 20 cars and run 60+ frames at 1280x720 on my projector.

Hey man, I'd highly suggest that you do not get a gigabyte motherboard and ocz memory.. those two together will give you the biggest headache of your life (compatibility issues). I went through it for a month. Either get a different mobo or different ram. IMO I'd suggest a mobo other than gigabyte.

[SFDMALEX]

Core2Duo @ 435FSB 3.05Ghz, 2gb ram @ 435mhz, 1900xtx

6x AA, 16x AF, 1680x1050, all in game settings maxed out.

FPS range from 80 low to 140

[Beachboy]

Hi All
Would someone tell me how to display fps in GTR2.
Can't seem to kind the "key" to it.
Thanks
:o

[SFDMALEX]

Hi All
Would someone tell me how to display fps in GTR2.
Can't seem to kind the "key" to it.
Thanks
:o

CTRL+F whilst in game on track

[VikDaThug]

Hi All
Would someone tell me how to display fps in GTR2.
Can't seem to kind the "key" to it.
Thanks
:o

yes how do i check my fps on gtr 2

my specs r

Core 2 E6600 CPU (running stock)
Gigabyte DQ6 Motherboard
2Gigs Corsair Pro Rams
750Watt PSU
7950 GX2 GPU
Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Soundcard
74 Gig Digital Western Raptor HDD (i think that's what it's called)

and the only prob i have is with fps r the add on tracks like Adelaide, i have all settings maxed out, like AAx4 n AFx16 IQ High Quality, Supersampling on

when i play the normal tracks, all is good, really smooth gameplay, but when i play most add on tracks the AA doesn't seem 2 work at all, forced in game or by Nvidia's control panel, and it's kinda jumpy or glitchy like i don't have enough ram.............. maybe i need 2 turn my shadows down but i don't think that's the prob cause my friends set up is smooth with everything maxed out, and his AA works on add on tracks (think it's cause he has two
X1950 crossfired) but still my set up is almost the same as his except for mobo n 2 vid cards, so i don't understand y AA won't work on Add on tracks or y it's not smooth on add on tracks but i'm still in my learning stages on PC's, so i'll hopefully figure it out soon

[brownbox]

I get 50-60 fps with all settings maxed, at 1280x1040 on my 19"CRT

Specs
Gigabyte GI8195G Pro
3GB Geil DDR2 RAM
400W PSU
Palit Geforce 7600GS 256MB DDR3 OC 700/1500 Volt Mod

[jcarno]

Hi All
Would someone tell me how to display fps in GTR2.
Can't seem to kind the "key" to it.
Thanks
:o

ctrl+f

[simao_ricardo]

Hello friends and entusiasts of GTR2, i m so :cry:

Unfortunately my system for now its only:
Laptop Samsung R50 Pentium M 1,73Mhz,1Gb DDR2, Hitachi 60Gb 5400 rpm
and the worst…..:cry: ATI X300 128mb, but a little overclocked with omega drivers i m running at 1280x800x32, Dx8, AAx2, all settings medium/high, shadows low, grid with 25 cars I can only have 30/40fps, in dry, it depends a lot of kind of track and sections sometimes like Laguna or Watkins i make 50fps.
At 1024x768 the frames go to 50/60fps.
At night and wet theres a huge drop of frames, almost impossible to run.

But remember guys that the human eye can only see at a maximum of 25fps, more than that, theres no perception.
So please don t put me so bad :cry: :cry:

[Greybrad]

My system is a bit of a pick'n'mix.

Mobo: ASRock 775DUAL-VSTA onboard Realtek HD audio
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 2.4ghz
Fan: Zalman Heatpipe CPU cooler with quiet 110mm blue LED fan
Ram: OCZ 2GB (2x1024MB) DDR2 Dual channel
GPU: Asus V9999GT (geforce 6800GT) AGP
PSU: OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU - 120mm Fan
HDD: 1x60gb Ide 1x80gb Ide
17" CRT

GTR2
res: 1024*768*32 @ 85hz
no AA
no AF
medium settings in game.

Approx frame rates in a race with 30 cars

69fps Spa at night
72fps Donnington at night with moderate rainfall
90fps Donnington in daytime in a monsoon
200fps Zhuhai in the day

[conley_jb]

I have a somewhat related question. How big a difference does dual core versus single core processors make in this game. I see a lot of you above are runing Intel dual cores. I have a post elsewehere inquiring about a problem I am having with frame freezing or lockups resulting in not being able to make a turn and going off track.
I have a clean instll on a custom rig, with an AMD64 -3800 (OC'd to 2.6Ghz), 2GB DDR500 ram and an eVGA 7900GT with 512MB of video RAM. I am running the game at 1280 x 720 (native resolution for my Syntax 27-inch LCD) and no matter what I set the graphics on I get this problem. I have measured upto 111 frames/sec as a high with a combo of medium and high settings, and as ittle as 40frames in other instances.
Would a dual core processor help any?

[SFDMALEX]

Dual core doesnt make any difference. Nor does it make any difference in any other game. Cause no game uses two cores ;)


But even one single core comparsions the archicture of the core duos is tons faster then P4 or anyting before that.

[snowy]

rFactor uses both of my cores, I have tested the +fullproc in the commandline and it works a treat. Task manager graphically illustrates both cores working together and my fps are very pleasing aswell. I tried adding +fullproc to GTR2 and it continued on its merry way oblivious of the fact that I have a dual core processor.

[SFDMALEX]

rFactor uses both of my cores, I have tested the +fullproc in the commandline and it works a treat. Task manager graphically illustrates both cores working together and my fps are very pleasing aswell. I tried adding +fullproc to GTR2 and it continued on its merry way oblivious of the fact that I have a dual core processor.

Task manager thing is not true.

Go to task manager and see if both bars are at 100% or more around 60%.

If its the latter then its not utilizing both cores fully.

[Rob18]

mobo: ASUS A8n32 sli Delux
Proc: FX60 @ 2.85
MEM: 2GB (2x1024) Patriot Low Lat
PSU: 850Watt (something or another lol)
2X NVIDIA 7900GTX 512 @ 650Mhz 1.6Ghz
Dual DualLayer Burners 16x
2x Raptor 74GB HDD
G25 Wheel
G5 Mouse
G15 Keyboard
View Sonic 20.1 LCD (4:3)
Watercooling
Logitech THX speakers
LTB Surround sound Headphone/mic

I run GTR2 @1600x1200 with everything cranked up as high as it can go. Even world movement ect... 16xAF 4xAA All driver settings cranked up.
I usually only run with a max of 28 cars as that is all that is allowed online i think. I NEVER see it drop under 30 on the line at the end of the pack with 28 cars drawn ahead. Once it gets going it will usually stay around 110fps+. Though I have seen others with similar setup getting better and I have seen others getting much worse. My computer works and that's good enough for me. MY temp monitor sayas it only gets as hot as 106F after racing for a few hours and no CTD issues or BSOD problems. But then again, I don't get all crazy with the O/C like I see some others do. :up:

[Jack Stand]

I run with everything maxed out. The gameplay is smooth. I do get one little stutter every now and then leaving the garage. I usually run with 15 to 30 cars depending...When I first installed GTR2 we actually dumped about 60 cars on Spa just for fun on and it ran ok..Most of the time I see FPS average around 60 to 105 depending on the track and quantity of cars..I've not raced muchin the rain or at night yet as this is all new to me..I think or hope that my system is running stable...no OC'ing. I use a Samsung 50" DLP TV for a monitor with the res at 1280x720...this is my first PC games endeavor and I'm just shooting the dark..so to speak.

[hansje]

Running in the rain and in the dark...kills your framerate, trust me :)

Hans ;)

[jayblue]

Just finished my new computer:
Asus P5w dh deluxe mobo,
E6600 core 2 duo running stock speed and fan, upgrading and o/c soon,
2gb crucial ballistix ram (800mhz)
X1950xt 256mb graphics card.
Using level 3 AA in gtr config and x4 AF i get 35fps standing start at spa in the day with 62 cars, rising to around 70 once the field spreads out. Thats with all graphics setting to full except shadows (high) and shadow quality (med) Rain and night racing are the true test in my opinion, in that scenario i can run around 45 cars comfortably.

[fane]

Amd Opteron 165@2570mhz water cooled
OCZ EB DDR PC-4000 2x1024MB Platinum Edition Dual Channel Kit
2 XFX 7800gtx SLI watercooled
2x Hitachi 80g@raid0
DFI Expert
Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality
Enermax Liberty 500watts
At Spa,1280|1024 with 61 cars i get at start 65 frames,then when the cars spread across the track increases to 80 frames.
setings:shadows high,quality hight,reflections full AA level 4 AF level 16

[hangwii]

p5b
E6400
1x1gb 800mhz kingston
palit 7900gs
20" 16:10 lcd samsung
...

1600x900
4xAA

nearly all graf high and some full
cars 20-30

when driving usually alltime 100, (some times 80-150, but that 100 is quiet avarage)
at start 80
lights on drop 20fps
replays 40-120

[gobi]

Asus M2N32 Deluxe
AMD 3800x2
2048MB DDR2 667 CL4
SLI 2x Nvidia 6800 Ultra 512MB PEG-Link=Superfast
2xSamsung 200GB/16MB Cache Raid0
AAx4, AFx8, 1280x1024@75Hz, AlternateFrameRendering2, all maxed out except shadows is set to high.
With 15-20 cars i get 50-100fps.
Using both cores, getting a 10-15fps bonus, especially in rain.

[SpeedRacer]

Motherboard: Abit AW9D
CPU: Intel c2d Extreme x6800
Ram: 2Gb crucial DDR2 800
Powersupply: 600 watt Ultra X-finity
Harddrive: Maxtor Maxline 500Gb
Sound card: SoundBlaster X-FI Extreme
Graphics card: Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS
Drivers: 97.92
OS: XP Pro 32 bit SP2b

Amazing fps

[Mike45]

My system specs are in my Signature.
All graphic setting are on high or full
AA x2
AF x4
running at 1280 x 1024 x 32

Frame rates are never higher than 35fps with a 20 car grid
usually sites in between 20 and 30 fps

will be either upgrading to a 8800GTX or 2 XD
OR
a ATI X2900XTX and obviously a new PSU just to run it.

[SnakeEyes]

E6600 (2.4GHz@1026MHz FSB) Core 2 Duo
WD 320 Gig HD 7200
2 Gig DDR Corsair RAM
eVGA 7950GT 512MB GDDR3 (over clocked)
Asus PN5SLI MoBo


Running all options at FULL
Max cars on track with Maxed out view distance
Runs steady @ 78FPS - does not change (1280x1024 32bit)

NOTE: on beta tracks the lowest I've seen was 46FPS (stable)

[olddriver04]

P5N-E SLI
E6300
2 GIGA MDT 800MHZ
700 WATT TERMALTAKE
8800GTS +79OOGTX
MULTI AFFICHAGE== 100 /150 fps

[Neo[RPM]]

Motherboard: Asus P5 GD1 pro
PRoc: 3Ghz
Ram: 2 G
Vid card: 8800 GTS
Video setting: 1920*1200, all setting on max
Frame rate: avg 150 rarely below 100

[Louike]

Asus A8N SLI Premium
Athlon X2 3800
2GB kingstond DDR HyperX
2x Gforce 7600GT overclocked a little

basically i only get framedrops in a grid that is bigger then 20 cars and in the dark and/or rain....

I use VSync and triple buffering to stabilize the view on my LCD screen.

for all: if you have an SLI mainboard and a few bucks to spare: get a second videocard... my framerate (and 3d marks) seriously almost doubled. (like 90% increase) i was totally stunned.

[Louike]

Using both cores, getting a 10-15fps bonus, especially in rain.

how do you do that? i read that process cpu affinity settings were bogus.

[willdarling]

Forgot who said it, but it's not true that the human eye can only see 25 fps.

I can definitley 'see' the difference between 60 and 80 fps, and i would wager that even higher would be better still.

You dont 'see' with your eyes as much as your brain, and your brain (probably) doesn't update a whole field of data at once, it is more of an ongoing process. As such having the computer do it's part faster, and keep all pixels as 'live' as they can be can only help to immerse you in the experience.

The confusion I think comes from stuttering low fps rates 'distracting' people, or making them feel sick. This should obviously be avoided, but once that is done (and you are up to 35 -40 fps) it will still get better the higher you go.

In an ideal world, I'd run everything at 120hz, safe in the knowledge that it is 'way' faster than me. -This is why I'm bummed out over high def being the same old 60 frame jerk-fest.

[hangwii]

human eye to brain gives that 25 pics / sec, but of cos u can see difference between 60 to 80. cos pics come different time etc. study more ^^^^

[Geordie055]

AMd Athlon 4600 Dual Core 2.4Ghz
ASUS A8n32 sli Deluxe
2Gb DDR Corsair Ram
400gb Hd
XTX 8800GTX
22" Belinea Widescreen (1680x1050 @ 60hz)
G25
Mx1000

Every setting is maxed out runs as smooth as can be. Looks the buisness and is. Got my system built up by Cyberpower in December. Blue neon the works...as we say, lovin it, lovin it, lovin it....

[willdarling]

Nice explanation hanqwii, cheers for that.

Happy to read (more) about it if you give me a link to back up this 25 fps theory. -I'm saying that human-eye to brain communication does not happen in 25 discrete 'images' per second. We see movement (especially in peripheral vision) faster than subtle colour changes for example. So basically the more current (more frequently updated) the LCD is, then the quicker we will see it. I'd wager this effect would only become insignificant after at least 100hz.

Remember this thread is on a motorsport website. -Tiny fractions of a second is what it is all about. There have been races where one car has beaten another across the line by a visible margin (10cm ish) and yet both cars had the same race time down to 1/1000 of a second.

[David Wright]

It may be that people have different sensitivity to frame-rates. Being old and used to GPL, 36 fps seems very smooth to me - I can also remember running earlier racing titles at 25 fps. Stuttering is much more of an issue IMO. I can live with low frame-rates if I don't have stutter.

However, display refresh rate does put a ceiling on what you see so there is no point in getting frame-rates much higher than your refresh rate.

[HAMMER]

It is as useless as tits on a bull comparing different PC's without a BENCHMARK to refernce to :p

You all running different resolutions, fields, settings even circuits :roflmao:
Pick a default Track, Cars Grid. time of day, graphics settings, resolutions
use all the same test and the FPS wont vary so wildly :rolleyes:

then you have a real baseline to work from ;)

[Mogget]

My system specs are in my Signature.
All graphic setting are on high or full
AA x2
AF x4
running at 1280 x 1024 x 32

Frame rates are never higher than 35fps with a 20 car grid
usually sites in between 20 and 30 fps


AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 5200+ AM2 (2.6 Ghz)
Asus M2NPV-MX Motherboard
2x 1Gb - DDR2(667 Mhz)
Gigabyte 7600GT (256Mb GDDR3)


The range of framerates covered by this thread has me baffled. The guy above can't get higher than 35fps with a 20 car grid, and yet he has an A64 X2 5200+ CPU/7600GT combo. Conversely, some guy on the preceding page reckons that he can get 200fps at Zhuhai during the day, using a Core 2 Duo E6600/GeForce 6800 combo ????

Does that make sense to anyone ?

On a similar note, I see very few posts stating the viewpoint being used when framerates are being measured. Do you use cockpit mode, bonnet mode, or "third person viewpoint" mode ? What setting do you use for the shadows ? When do you get that maximum framerate ? When do you see the minimum framerate ?

Without a level platform from which to assess these framerates, they are meaningless.

[svtdrivah]

I have been getting some video lag recently and it's been driving me nuts, so instead of upgrading the video card I went with the whole shebang.

Gigabyte Black Aluminum case
EVGA Nvidia nforce 680i
Intel Core 2 Duo e6600
EVGA 8800 GTX 768mb
Patriot extreme performance ram 2 gigglahs
OCZ 700w power supply
Zalman 110mm heatsink & fan

My current machine is:
AMD 3500+
Asus K8N-E Deluxe mobo
1gig ram
BFG 7800 GT video card

[Mike45]

You are completely right Mogget, we have no Benchmark at all and what i posted (AMD X2 5200+) was done at Monza, cockpit view, full shadows and DX9 and i am very unhappy with how my computer performs. Also worth mentioning that i currently don't have a sound card so i am running of on-board sound.

We need to make a benchmark which only involves the original game features out of the box. I cannot say what settings to use exactly because i have no particular skill in this area except a little common sense and experience.

1. Nvidia control panel settings or ATI equivilent: AF, AA, AA transparency, and texture filtering quality.

2. GTR 2 Config (GTR2 Config.exe): Resolution, 16-bit/32-bit colour, Shader level (DX 7/8/9), AA level, Refresh Rate.

3. Ingame Graphic Settings: Car View, Mirrors (Realistic/Virtual), Player car detail, Competitor car detail, Max number of visible cars, Special effects detail, Headlight detail, Reflection detail, shadows, shadow quality, Track detail, Draw distance, pitcrew detail, trackside characters and pitboard.

4. Ingame Audio Settings: Number of effects and Music?

5. Extra Ingame Settings: Visible Windscreen, Visible Steering wheel, MOTEC or not?, high detail wheels, Vertex damage, HUD in cockpit, simple debris collision, low resolution track textures, High resolution car textures, High resolution cockpit textures, level of detail bias, look to apex, world movement.

6. Running background programs: anti-virus, MSN, firewall etc
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Other variables: Operating System and version number, Graphics card driver, other device drivers, Monitor config (2 or 3 monitors), widescreen or not.

As you can see, there are alot of variables in this matter and this amount can be quite overwelming and in some cases unpracticle (monitor resolution and if widescreen). We can simplify some things like Ingame graphics detail by changing the General Detail option and not changing anything else under the Video tab after that.

P.S - I'm quite adrenaline pumped ATM because I have been at the V8SUPERCARS all day (Barbagallo, Round 2) and saw James Courney Crash head on into a solid wall at over 220 km/h (Practice) and live to race the in next day. XD

[SnakeEyes]

The range of framerates covered by this thread has me baffled. The guy above can't get higher than 35fps with a 20 car grid, and yet he has an A64 X2 5200+ CPU/7600GT combo. Conversely, some guy on the preceding page reckons that he can get 200fps at Zhuhai during the day, using a Core 2 Duo E6600/GeForce 6800 combo ????

Does that make sense to anyone ?

On a similar note, I see very few posts stating the viewpoint being used when framerates are being measured. Do you use cockpit mode, bonnet mode, or "third person viewpoint" mode ? What setting do you use for the shadows ? When do you get that maximum framerate ? When do you see the minimum framerate ?

Without a level platform from which to assess these framerates, they are meaningless.
I'd like to know how to get 200fps. I run an E6600 / eVGA 7950GT and get 76-78fps constant no matter what view I use or how many cars on track.
I have all settings cranked to max, but detail bias is only at 110% out of 125%. I got 6-36fps max at 125% detail bias. If there is any info on here to get towards 200fps with this combo PLEASE send it my way.

[David Wright]

I'd like to know how to get 200fps. I run an E6600 / eVGA 7950GT and get 76-78fps constant no matter what view I use or how many cars on track.
I have all settings cranked to max, but detail bias is only at 110% out of 125%. I got 6-36fps max at 125% detail bias. If there is any info on here to get towards 200fps with this combo PLEASE send it my way.

Sounds like you have vsync enabled. TBH provided your system can reliably achieve 76-78 fps this is the best option. Your monitor can't dispay any more than that.

[cam1990]

My rigs in my sig, with everything on full, (shadows medium) i average about 50 fps. It gets as low as high 20's with 30 cars on grid and in wet or night time driving.

[griff_1999]

hello all here is my newish rig but am not finnished yet :p

Motherboard: Asus M2N4-SLI (Socket AM2) PCI-Express.
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+,2.7GHz.
Memory: GSkill 2046MB RAM (DDR2 800) Dual Channel.
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c.
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT. (With Scope to get 8800GTX SLI :D )
Display Memory: 256.0 MB.
Sound Devices: Realtek AC97 Audio onboard.
Mouse: Logitec G7 Laser 2.7GHz 2000DPI.
Keyboard: Ideazon Usb ZBoard.
Other input device: Saitek R440 Force Wheel.

[SnakeEyes]

Thanks David Wright.
I will uncheck VSYnc and retest. Don't get me wrong, I am not upset with the high 70's FPS. The game looks awsome with the new rig. Core2Duo all the way.................E6600 best bang for the buck!!!

[gazman]

WHATS WRONG WITH MY BOX PLEASE LET ME KNOW
AMD 64 1808 mhz
1.2 gig of mixed ram (2x512 & 1x256)
Gigabyte mother board K8 Triton GA-K8NSC-939
ATI X1600 Pro 512MB AGP.
dell P1130 21inch flat screen monitor.
I get the shittiest frame rates of 20 sometimes under running at 1280 x 1024 at 85 mhz goes up to 35-40 when running at 800 x 600 at 85 mhz game looks like puss... would matched ram (2x1gig) help with my frame rates.theres a laptop above my thread kicking my boxes ass...:mad:
i run in car view,high wheels n cockpit, no wonder my lap times are slow, its not as if this game is blessed with stunning graphics either. i think they are fairly average....

[David Wright]

There's not enough detail on the settings you run to decide if the fps are too low. I'd pull the two 256 Mb sticks of RAM, check the m/b manual to see if the 512 MB sticks are in the right slots, and then see if you get any change.

The improvement in frame-rate at lower resolutions tends to indicate your graphics card is struggling. 1280 x 1024 is going to push an X1600 Pro especially if you run a lot of AA and AF. Its not an ideal resolution for a conventional 4:3 monitor either - it will distort the image.

[gazman]

i sorta worked that out last night when i dropped back to 800 x 600 picked up 2 seconds on the first lap. Second lap of monza done a 1:45 I used to struggle getting a 1:50. At 800 x 600 the corners seem to open up and not be so tight.I hate being ripped off by computer shops that think they know everything but know nothing.I've spent over $1500 (aussie) on this machine and seems it would be better suited as a boat anchor. looked in the mother board manual and the ram is in the right spots.the board has 4 ram slots and can handle 4 gig.I am running 512 in slot 1(which is the closet to the processor), 512 in slot 2, 256 in slot 3,slot 4 nothing.my 512 card was suppose to be the ducks guts but it is shit too.I should Dennis Lilly it(Australian legend fast bowler : cricket) straight over the shop counter.

[lowndes888]

i sorta worked that out lastnight when i dropped back to 800 x 600 picked up 2 seconds on the first lap second lap of monza done a 1:45 I used to struggle getting a 1:50. At 800 x 600 the corners seem to open up and not be so tight.I hate being ripped off by computer shops that think they know everything but know nothing i,ve spent over $1500 (aussie) on this machine and seems it would be better suited as a boat anchor.

Do you have the newest drivers for your video card?
Lot of improvement for me with the 93.71 drivers for my 6600GT;)
from 60-75 to 80-100 in practice and from 30-40 in race to 50-65:up:

[Grasshopper]

Could it have something to do with Ati cards?

my system specs up to 2 weeks ago were : abit nf7-s, athlon 2200 (1,8ghz)
1 gb ddr, 320gb ata HD, ati radeon 9800 pro 128mb. (becoming pretty ancient rig)
i had to run at 800*600 with no AA, dx7 and all settings on very lowest (8 cars visible) and still it would struggle on several tracks (fps going below 10)

i upgraded my vidcard to an nvidia 7600gs 256mb recently, which is not that much more powerful than my old card in mhz terms, but it makes a huge difference ingame. Now i can run 1024*768, 1x AA, dx9, 12 cars visible ingame, car and track detail upped to medium.

Do yo have race data acquisition or high res cockpit enabled in advanced options? disabling those helps a lot

[gazman]

turned off a few things & got the fps up to 48 on monza 10 cars no motec :cry:
that will have to do this is the first time i had seen my fps rate and i nearly cried
20 fps so now i have more frame rate less bling. better start saving for a new machine.this time i check out the forums here and see whats decent and go from there.

[MoodyB]

i upgraded my vidcard to an nvidia 7600gs 256mb recently, which is not that much more powerful than my old card in mhz terms.


It isn't always mzh that matters though. Memory bus width, no of pixel / vertex shaders, type of memory used, what shader models it supports, etc all have an influence on whether one card is faster than another.

[Grasshopper]

what tracks are you trying this on gazman? some tracks have much lower framerate than others. It seems it has much to do with how much is "viewable" at a certain point. tracks like valencia are much harder on my machine because there isn't a line of trees left and right to the track, you constantly see many buildings etc which have to be rendered. Monza is usually the most forgiving on my framerate.

How is your drawing distance set? I have it on "near"

[MoodyB]

would matched ram (2x1gig) help with my frame rates


Not really, no. Running in single or dual channel makes a noticeable difference in benchmarks, but nothing worth shouting about in games on A64 systems.

The only way 2gb would help GTR2 is if you had all the gfx options on high and found that your pc was paging to hard disk when playing ( pauses / stuttering ) Then you'd need more ram.

Edit :

Couple of things to try to improve your fps :

Open GTR2Config and make sure that' FullScreen Antiailising ' and ' Use Vertical Sync ' are OFF. Also set ' Shader Level ' to ' DirectX 8 ' ( or 7 if you want more fps at the expense of gfx quality )

[frac]

Hey guys,
it's time for that upgrade. I am sick to death of random CTD 10 times a night sometimes, which i think is a combination of overclocked GT6600 card and an obscure supposdly 500 what? PowerSupply, trying to run P-Shop and GTR2.
I'm running;
6600Gt "agp" Running@ 552 MHz / 997 MHz
1Gig corsair value select pc3200
on a Abit Nf7- s2g
Althlon XP 2800

and i'm getting 20fraps in the night and 30 fraps in the day at Riversidewith
with 50/70 in the replays with most of the settings switched off or on low on 13 car grids, and i have some crappy monitor 19inch @1024/768 16 bit.
So i just dont bother with track like LeMans.

Here's what i was looking at upgrading to, all from overclockers;
Gainward BLISS GeForce 7600 GT "Golden Sample" 256MB (575MHz Core, 256MB 1500MHz GDDR3 Memory, 12 Pixel Pipelines) £111.61
or
BFG GeForce 7800 GS OC 256MB GDDR3 (400MHz Core, 256MB 1250MHz GDDR3 Memory, 16 Pixel Pipelines) £135.11

and what i would like to know is, which of these cards would be better for GTR2?
As the 7600GT has faster clock speeds but only 12 pixel pipelines compaired to the 7800GS's slower clock speed but higher pipelines?

& what about;
HIS ATI Radeon X1950 Pro ICEQ3 V2 Turbo 256MB GDDR3 £129.24?
(620MHz Core, 1480MHz Memory, 36 Pixel Shaders, 8 Vertex Shaders, 8 Geometry Pipelines, Shader Model 3.0, ICEQ3 Silent Cooling)
which sound great! but i feel hesitent when it comes to Ati for some reason?

I am also going to upgrade to 2Gig mem:
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS3 £105.74 .
With the memory am i stuck with DDR400/Pc3200 or can i change to a different type? as this type seems to be quiet exspencive

or am i waisting my time to sticking with AGP and should maybe spend a bit more and upgrade to PCI-E?

And finally will these cards need a good make powersupply to run properly?
And all for just 1 little game!!!

ANy suggestions will be richly considered

Thanks

[Kris123]

MSI Ms 7406 motherboard
Intel Pentium 3.4 ghz
Ati Radeon X1300 pro :o non overclock
2 GB Corsair RAM DDR

40-50 FPS @ medium Enna Pergusa

[MoodyB]

or am i waisting my time to sticking with AGP and should maybe spend a bit more and upgrade to PCI-E?


The X1950 is the quickest AGP card atm afaik, but your current cpu will hold it back unfortunately, so you might not see a huge benefit if you changed.

Best thing to do is work out what you can afford to spend. If you could stretch to £350 - £450, then you I'd suggest change the cpu, gfx card, motherboard, ram and psu. I'd go the Intel Core2Duo route as they are similarly priced to Amd64's but quicker, especially when overclocked. And PCI-E cards are normally noticeably cheaper than their AGP versions.


And finally will these cards need a good make powersupply to run properly?
And all for just 1 little game!!!


A good Psu is recommended anyway, as you run the risk of a cheaper brand failing because it's poorly made / can't cope when you add additional parts to the pc. It's worth spending £40-£60 on a known brand like XClio, Tagan, Antec, Akasa or SeaSonic. For a decent spec'd Pc you'd want at least a 450-500w psu.

[David Wright]

Hey guys,
it's time for that upgrade. I am sick to death of random CTD 10 times a night sometimes, which i think is a combination of overclocked GT6600 card and an obscure supposdly 500 what? PowerSupply, trying to run P-Shop and GTR2.
I'm running;
6600Gt "agp" Running@ 552 MHz / 997 MHz
1Gig corsair value select pc3200
on a Abit Nf7- s2g
Althlon XP 2800

and i'm getting 20fraps in the night and 30 fraps in the day at Riversidewith
with 50/70 in the replays with most of the settings switched off or on low on 13 car grids, and i have some crappy monitor 19inch @1024/768 16 bit.
So i just dont bother with track like LeMans.

Here's what i was looking at upgrading to, all from overclockers;
Gainward BLISS GeForce 7600 GT "Golden Sample" 256MB (575MHz Core, 256MB 1500MHz GDDR3 Memory, 12 Pixel Pipelines) £111.61
or
BFG GeForce 7800 GS OC 256MB GDDR3 (400MHz Core, 256MB 1250MHz GDDR3 Memory, 16 Pixel Pipelines) £135.11

and what i would like to know is, which of these cards would be better for GTR2?
As the 7600GT has faster clock speeds but only 12 pixel pipelines compaired to the 7800GS's slower clock speed but higher pipelines?

& what about;
HIS ATI Radeon X1950 Pro ICEQ3 V2 Turbo 256MB GDDR3 £129.24?
(620MHz Core, 1480MHz Memory, 36 Pixel Shaders, 8 Vertex Shaders, 8 Geometry Pipelines, Shader Model 3.0, ICEQ3 Silent Cooling)
which sound great! but i feel hesitent when it comes to Ati for some reason?

I am also going to upgrade to 2Gig mem:
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS3 £105.74 .
With the memory am i stuck with DDR400/Pc3200 or can i change to a different type? as this type seems to be quiet exspencive

or am i waisting my time to sticking with AGP and should maybe spend a bit more and upgrade to PCI-E?

And finally will these cards need a good make powersupply to run properly?
And all for just 1 little game!!!

ANy suggestions will be richly considered

Thanks

Your performance seems low for that spec. My old PC has an XP2500+ with an X800GTO card but it performs better than yours. Its very hard to know what the problem might be.

I wouldn't spend any money on upgrading it. Your current system is reasonably well balanced - the 6600GT should be fine at 1024/768 and 1GB of RAM is enough for GTR2 unless you insist on running 50 odd cars at Spa :) Its just 2 generations out of date. If you want to spend money, spend it on a new system.

[frac]

Your performance seems low for that spec. My old PC has an XP2500+ with an X800GTO card but it performs better than yours. Its very hard to know what the problem might be.

I wouldn't spend any money on upgrading it. Your current system is reasonably well balanced - the 6600GT should be fine at 1024/768 and 1GB of RAM is enough for GTR2 unless you insist on running 50 odd cars at Spa :) Its just 2 generations out of date. If you want to spend money, spend it on a new system.

i know i thought i would get a better performance for what i've got :cry: . I would love to do a complete rebuild and i did see an AMD San Diego 3700 scoket 939 for £35 at overclockers, but they didnt have many motherboards to go with it would you recommend anywhere else to have a look?

thanks again.

[frac]

Best thing to do is work out what you can afford to spend. If you could stretch to £350 - £450, then you I'd suggest change the cpu, gfx card, motherboard, ram and psu. I'd go the Intel Core2Duo route as they are similarly priced to Amd64's but quicker, especially when overclocked. And PCI-E cards are normally noticeably cheaper than their AGP versions.

It's worth spending £40-£60 on a known brand like XClio, Tagan, Antec, Akasa or SeaSonic. For a decent spec'd Pc you'd want at least a 450-500w psu.

thanks :)
i started to have a look on overclockers and it would be about £350 like you said but with an Amd64 and an AS-Rock boad (Hmm great!!)
Looks like it might be time to give intel a chance ;)

[Disco_Inferno]

Hey guys,


ANy suggestions will be richly considered

Thanks

Do you turn off any unnecessary processes in the Task Manager?... This will help out alot with an older system.

[frac]

Do you turn off any unnecessary processes in the Task Manager?... This will help out alot with an older system.

Hey Disco! :)
I never think of that and i dont know which ones i need in the OS.
To be fair to the "ol' girl", i recorded those frame rates after the pc had been on for about 12 hours and with, paint & photo shop & RadioHead playing on my Nero MediaPlayer in the background, which cant help.
It's mainly the random CTD and the 6600 and old powersupply getting to hot that makes me want to re-build. And it would be nice to see some of those special effects in the game ;)

[Disco_Inferno]

Hey Disco! :)
I never think of that and i dont know which ones i need in the OS.
To be fair to the "ol' girl", i recorded those frame rates after the pc had been on for about 12 hours and with, paint & photo shop & RadioHead playing on my Nero MediaPlayer in the background, which cant help.
It's mainly the random CTD and the 6600 and old powersupply getting to hot that makes me want to re-build. And it would be nice to see some of those special effects in the game ;)

If you can build a new computer to take advantage of all the eye candy in the game, it will be worth it. :up:
But untill then here are a few tips that I still do to keep my computer from slowing down... especially before playing a game... these tips can make the difference of a game being choppy and unplayable to having a good gaming experience. ;)

First thing I do is go the task bar and click start\Control Panel\Internet Options\ and this will bring up the Internet Properties window. Now delete your Temporary Internet files I also delete my History files and my Cookies here to, but this is up to you, if you have never done this before, it will clear out alot files that slow down your comp.

Second thing I do is run Ad-aware se personal. This will find any tracking Cookies on your computer... not really a performance enhancer, but more of a security program I run before I turn off my computer. You can find it at http://www.lavasoft.de/ its free.

Next I will restart my comp.

After it finishes re-booting, I close down all unnecessary background tasks.
Here's how...
1. Hold down CONTROL and ALT and tap DELETE. The Windows Task Manager appears.
2. Click the Processes tab. This displays a list of all background tasks running on your system.
3. Click the User Name column heading. This sorts all the processes together by user name.
4. Select an item with a user name, but do not select one from the SYSTEM, LOCAL SERVICE, or NETWORK SERVICE groups. Also, do not select the explorer.exe or taskmgr.exe items.
5. Click END PROCESS. You may receive a warning message, if so click YES. The selected item disappears from the list.
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 until only explorer.exe and taskmgr.exe remain in the user name group.

Now start your game or program...

(Just restart your computer if you want to turn on all these background tasks again after you finish gaming)

Follow these steps and you should see an improvement. :up:

Other things to consider...
1. Turn down SHADOW settings in game for better performance.
2. After a few hours of gaming if things slow down, restart your comp to re-boot it and get better performance again.(dont forget to turn off background tasks again after you restart if you want to continue gaming)
3. Norton antivirus will slow a computer down bigtime, even if Norton is turned off.
4. Defrag, Defrag, Defrag... Disk Defragmenter is your friend.
5. If you do alot of installing and deleting of programs your registry may be full of unnecessary files... A reformat to your hard drive will get your comp running like new... But I usually only do this once a year since its such a pain in the neck to re install everything.

I hope there are a few new ideas here to help you out... these have made the biggest difference for me. ;)

[Apex1972]

AMD Athlon 64 (socket 754!!!)
Gigabyte GA K8NE Triton(only got it for PCI-E slot)
EVGA 8800 GTS 640Mb (650MHz 1010MHz)
Rosewill 430w POS I mean PSU
2 gig Kingston value RAM DDR 400 (412MHz)
Soundblaster Live 24 bit (the 30.00 special)
Antec Super LanBoy
Logitech Rumblepad 2
Samsung 19" CRT (1600x1200 @ 75Hz)


Runs GTR2 and rFactor full settings 1600x1200 16X AA and 16X AF
I usually get about 35-45 FPS at the start then quickly max out at 75 fps
(V sync enabled)
I plan on a Core 2 Duo/SLI upgrade later when Vista and hopefully a DX10 race sim will be available.

[aaron_henderson_21]

s754 AMD Sempron 64 3000+ @ 2.550 MHz (300x8.5)
ASUS A8N-E
ATI x1600 Pro 512MB AGP @ 621 MHz, 954 MHz
480W PSU
1536MB DDR 400 @ 400 MHz 3-3-3-7
Cheap Logitech Racing Wheel (saving for nicer one, any suggestions?)


GTR2 Daytime - 18-42 FPS
1600x1200x16 2xAA, 8xAF HQ, AAA - performance
most setting fulls full, headlights on medium, shadows and shadow quality medium, track detail full and full view distance. Pit board on, pit lane or whatever on, trackside characters on, high detail livery and cockpit (obviously!) and high detail wheels, vertex damage, simple debree collsion on. detail bias at 100, track movement or whatever at 0.

GTR2 Night - not even worth posting with this rig
1600x1200x16 no AA, 4xAF HQ
I REALLY have to drop the settings, and resolution drops do almost nothing. Going from 1600x1200x16 to 640x480x16 maybe gives 3 frames, but is unbearable to look at on my 21" CRT. I pretty much drop all settings to low, medium-low and keep my resolution, and it still chugs...

[Mogget]

gazman,

Your PC is relatively similar to mine (see my signature). I did have a problem with low framerates, but then I discovered that my 2x512MB sticks of double sided DDR400 RAM weren't working together properly. I noticed that the memory clock speed was being automatically set to 100Mhz (it should be 200Mhz), and a quick test with SiSoft Sandra indicated a pathetic memory bandwidth of 1260MB/s. When I tested both sticks separately, the bandwidth increased to 2800MB/s, and framerates increased by AT LEAST 50% !

Since I wanted 1GB RAM, I decided to replace those 2x512MB sticks with a single 1GB unit......and now performance is fine.

You have a rather strange collection of memory sticks in your PC. I would advise downloading SiSoft Sandra, and checking the memory bandwidth of your system. Something tells me that this could be the source of your framerate problems.

[frac]

If you can build a new computer to take advantage of all the eye candy in the game, it will be worth it. :up:
But untill then here are a few tips that I still do to keep my computer from slowing down... especially before playing a game... these tips can make the difference of a game being choppy and unplayable to having a good gaming experience. ;)

First thing I do is go the task bar and click start\Control Panel\Internet Options\ and this will bring up the Internet Properties window. Now delete your Temporary Internet files I also delete my History files and my Cookies here to, but this is up to you, if you have never done this before, it will clear out alot files that slow down your comp.

Second thing I do is run Ad-aware se personal. This will find any tracking Cookies on your computer... not really a performance enhancer, but more of a security program I run before I turn off my computer. You can find it at http://www.lavasoft.de/ its free.

Next I will restart my comp.

After it finishes re-booting, I close down all unnecessary background tasks.
Here's how...
1. Hold down CONTROL and ALT and tap DELETE. The Windows Task Manager appears.
2. Click the Processes tab. This displays a list of all background tasks running on your system.
3. Click the User Name column heading. This sorts all the processes together by user name.
4. Select an item with a user name, but do not select one from the SYSTEM, LOCAL SERVICE, or NETWORK SERVICE groups. Also, do not select the explorer.exe or taskmgr.exe items.
5. Click END PROCESS. You may receive a warning message, if so click YES. The selected item disappears from the list.
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 until only explorer.exe and taskmgr.exe remain in the user name group.

Now start your game or program...

(Just restart your computer if you want to turn on all these background tasks again after you finish gaming)

Follow these steps and you should see an improvement. :up:

Other things to consider...
1. Turn down SHADOW settings in game for better performance.
2. After a few hours of gaming if things slow down, restart your comp to re-boot it and get better performance again.(dont forget to turn off background tasks again after you restart if you want to continue gaming)
3. Norton antivirus will slow a computer down bigtime, even if Norton is turned off.
4. Defrag, Defrag, Defrag... Disk Defragmenter is your friend.
5. If you do alot of installing and deleting of programs your registry may be full of unnecessary files... A reformat to your hard drive will get your comp running like new... But I usually only do this once a year since its such a pain in the neck to re install everything.

I hope there are a few new ideas here to help you out... these have made the biggest difference for me. ;)

Wow thanks for that!!!
i have copied and pasted everything you said in the different posts and your knowaldge and advice has proved invaluable... esepciaclly the wheels man you really came through on that one.

thanks again ;)

[SnakeEyes]

Sounds like you have vsync enabled. TBH provided your system can reliably achieve 76-78 fps this is the best option. Your monitor can't dispay any more than that.

Thanks bud. Turned off VSYNC and presto......200+FPS with maxed out settings. Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou................:roflmao: :D :rolleyes:

[David Wright]

Thanks bud. Turned off VSYNC and presto......200+FPS with maxed out settings. Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou................:roflmao: :D :rolleyes:

Just bear in mind its just a number on the screen. You are still only seeing 70 fps in reality. Thats all your display can produce :)

[Petty Andretti]

So is everyone using cockpit view?

[Ac!d82]

My System:

Intel Pentium 4 640 @ 3.2Ghz
MSI 848P Neo2 V
2x 1024Mb DDR400 RAM
XFX GeForce 6800XT @ 550Gpu and 1.1Ghz RAM

TFT Resolution: 1280x1024 and Highest Settings

[weedtokaz]

AMD Athlon 2600+@1912hz
MSI KT6V motherboard
1GB Corsar ram 2x512mb
HIS radeonX1950pro 256bit/512mb 621 core 1480 memory
17in crt
All setting max 1280x1024 35fps when passing pits full of cars when racing 50-60fps but due to processor some times when AI crash somewhere else on the track it stutters a bit but with no change to frame rate