stupid issue

[axeman_g]

I am sure there is something I am missing, but how come my pit stops are occurring without fuel? I am getting tires but not fuel!

Anyone...

[Dazmaniac]

I may be wrong here, but on the car setup screen, where you can tweak tyre pressure, brake pressure, diff, gear ratios, etc etc, there is also the option to set the starting amount of fuel in your tank and also the number of pit stops you're going to make and how much fuel each one will give you.

Maybe you have this set to 0 stops, so no additional fuel set.

[trebor69]

It sounds like you may have fuel turned off in the realism settings. Even if you have no pitstops selected in the garage you should still be able to request one whenever you want and they should fuel you up.

[axeman_g]

On the Car Setup page under the STRATEGY heading I only have FUEL and REV LIMITER. If I set my fuel to max (on a GT40 about 30 gallons) they still only pump in 1.1 gallons. I see no entry for number of pitstops.

Also, there is no FUEL entry on the realism settings that I can see. Can you give me a landmark, what entries is it between.

Maybe I have something wrong in a .plr file.

[David Wright]

If I set my fuel to max (on a GT40 about 30 gallons) they still only pump in 1.1 gallons.

Ah, so they do give you some fuel? They add fuel to take the fuel level up to the quantity indicated on the pit board. They do not add the quantity shown on the pitboard. If you fill up to max in the garage, do a lap then do a pitstop, they will just top you up for 1 laps worth of fuel.

[axeman_g]

I figured it out. The pit board can be edited. I did not know that. DUMASS!!! Ok I figured it and will no be able to complete a long race with a pit stop..... thank god. Sorry for any confusion I might have created.

[Wiltshire Tony]

Would some kind soul please talk me through doing a pit stop?
Do you get tyres and fuel at the same time?
Thanks
Tony

[David Wright]

Guide to GTL pitstops

1. Before starting a race, if you have edited the plr file to give manual control in the pitlane, ensure that you have assigned a key for 'speed limiter'.

2. When you decide to pit during a race, enter the pit lane. If you have disabled automatic pitlane control, make sure you hit the pit limiter before crossing the line that marks the start of the pits (usually indicated by a white line with a set of green traffic lights next to it).

3. Enter your pit stall (as indicated by your crew chief) and a pit board appears, like the one below.

4. If you are offline, hit pause ('P' by default) as soon as the pit board comes up so that you don't waste time in the pits choosing your options. With GTL paused, you can relax and still change all the pit board settings and avoid adding time to your pit stop.

5. Choose your options on the pit board:

You navigate by moving the arrow on the pitboard using the arrow keys on your keyboard (by default). The up and down keys move the arrow up and down. the left and right arrows change the value/option on the pitboard.

In the top half of the pit board, Pit Strategy, the first line says "STOP/GO: N/A". In normal cirumstances, you can ignore this line. However, if you receive a stop and go penalty during the race, you are notified at the top of the screen. You must enter the pits within three laps to serve the penalty. If you entered the pits after being given a stop and go penalty, this line would read "STOP/GO: YES". You would hit return, wait for ten seconds to serve the penalty and then your pit crew would allow you to leave again. You cannot do anything to your car during a stop and go (i.e. you can't change tyres, re-fuel, etc.).

The next line is "FUEL AMT/LAP". In the pic below it shows "14.8/82". This means the car will be filled up to 14.8 gallons of fuel, which should last 82 laps. This is the amount of fuel that will be in the car after the pit stop, not the amount of fuel that will be added to the car. In other words, if you came into the pits with 13 gallons of fuel still in the car and on your pit board you selected "14.8/82", only 1.8 gallons of fuel would be added to the car so that you would leave with 14.8 gallons of fuel in the tank. If you wish to add more fuel to the car than suggested, move the arrow to the FUEL/AMT line and press right. The fuel amount and number of laps will increase, as will the figure in the 'TIME EST.' column, which indicates how long (in seconds) it will take to add that much fuel to the car. If you do not wish to add any fuel to the car, move the arrow to the FUEL/AMT line and press left, until the figure in the 'TIME EST.' column goes down to '0.0', indicating no fuel will be added to the car.
NB: The amount of fuel initially suggested on the pit board (in this case 14.8 gallons) is the amount of fuel that you have left in your tank.

The next two lines deal with the tyres, front and rear: "F TYRES" and "R TYRES". In the pic below both lines say "Dunlop Bias Ply Slick". GTL assumes that you want to change tyres every time that you enter the pits, which is why the 'TIME EST.' column for both lines says "22.0". If you don't change this setting, the tyres on your car will be replaced with a new set of the same specification. If you don't want to change tyres, move the arrow to each line and press left until "No Change" appears and the figure in the 'TIME EST.' column goes down to "0.0". You can also only change the front tyres and not the rear tyres or vice versa, etc.

The bottom half of the pit board, Damage, allows you to repair any damage to your car. If you do not wish to repair the damage, move the arrow to the appropriate line and press left. The line should change to "Do not repair" and the figure in the 'TIME EST.' line should go down to "0.0".

The tyre wear diagram in the bottom left-hand corner shows you, unsurprisingly, the tyre wear for each tyre on the car. It is on a scale of 1-100, with 100 being completely worn. The loss in grip will be noticeable when wear reaches 20-30 - don't run tyres till they are 100% worn. Personally, during a race I just go on 'feel' to decide whether to change tyres rather than look at these figures. However, these figures can be useful in practice when tweaking a setup.

"TOTAL TIME EST." obviously shows how long the whole pit stop should take.

6. Once you are happy with all of the settings on your pit board, un-pause GTL (if you are offline) and hit return.

7. This the order of the pit stop:

i) Changing tyres
ii) Repairing damage
iii) Refueling

8. As soon as the pit crew have finished the words "PIT STOP:" will appear at the top of the screen with a time to show how long the pit stop has taken. The crew chief will then wave you off. As soon as you see this you can pull away from your pit stall, you MUST set the pit limiter on again (even with automatic pitlane control). Continue racing!

Always practice a pitstop (e.g. in free practice mode) - don't leave it till you are one hour into a race to make your first pitstop.

[[R24-7]Bazza]

The tyre wear diagram in the bottom left-hand corner shows you, unsurprisingly, the tyre wear for each tyre on the car. It is on a scale of 1-100, with 100 being completely worn. The loss in grip will be noticeable when wear reaches 20-30 - don't run tyres till they are 100% worn. Personally, during a race I just go on 'feel' to decide whether to change tyres rather than look at these figures. However, these figures can be useful in practice when tweaking a setup.


so with this aspect in mind, does the same apply to GTR2, meaning that 1 is very little wear and 100 is very worn?

if so i need to be more agressive with my setups, im not burning rubber nearly enough!!!!

[David Wright]

Bazza;101036']so with this aspect in mind, does the same apply to GTR2, meaning that 1 is very little wear and 100 is very worn?

if so i need to be more agressive with my setups, im not burning rubber nearly enough!!!!

I don't know for sure but as its the same game engine I would guess so. The thing is the tyres loose so much grip before they get anywhere near 100 that its somewhat academic.

[Nothegger]

I don't know for sure but as its the same game engine I would guess so. The thing is the tyres loose so much grip before they get anywhere near 100 that its somewhat academic.

Maybe 100 means there is no rubber left, and you are rolling on the rims:p:p

[David Wright]

Maybe 100 means there is no rubber left, and you are rolling on the rims:p:p

The tyre goes flat when you reach 100 :)

[Wiltshire Tony]

@David Wright, Thank you for the great explanation. I really appreciate the time and effort you must have put in. Here, enjoy this virtual pint.

[David Wright]

@David Wright, Thank you for the great explanation. I really appreciate the time and effort you must have put in. Here, enjoy this virtual pint.


I did base it on another guide for GTR which I edited to make it applicable to GTL. Also I've been wanting to do the 60 lap races at the end of the GTL career for a while so I needed to refresh myself on pitstops too. Having done a pitstop in a long race "in anger" last night, one error I did spot was that the amount of fuel displayed on the pitboard is what you have left in the tank rather than the amount in your setup. I've edited my original post. This is different to GTR/GTR2, presumably becuase there is no pitstop strategy in GTL setups unlike GTR.

[Pizzaman]

Off course...

I do have a question and a remark:

-Remark: although maybe not really useful, if you get a stop/gop in the last two laps, just stuff it because you will finish before you are DQ'd...:p

-Question: any way I can set the rev-limiter higher in the Mini?:roflmao:

[Zoomie]

IIRC, you get DQed if you don't take the stop/go penalty.

[sunalp2]

IIRC, you get DQed if you don't take the stop/go penalty.

That's right, I did it out of curiosity to see what would happen. I finished the race, went back to the pits to wait for the end, then saw my name tumble down the list to Last and DQ. :cry:

[Bill Guillaume]

David...thanks!! I did not know about that pause:up:

[Pizzaman]

I finished the race, went back to the pits to wait for the end, then saw my name tumble down the list to Last and DQ.

Usually, they don't even wait for me to finish the race. Most people behind me quit anyway (is it that bad if you end up behind me :roflmao:), and the top 5 usually don't even wait for everyone to finish to vote next event. Sometimes they leave even right after the race (so I end up fifth because 5 people already left :down:) without receiving their congratulations. Not very polite, and then they miss my spectacular finish (I usually pull the handbrake, turn it on the roof or something when crossing the finish, leaving the AI something to do :crackup: :lol:

Probably I cannot sink any lower :roflmao:, however, I did not get DQ.
Maybe that's because I never do cut track to overtake somebody, usually I get pushed off track and then get 'cut track'. Or I have to swerve to avoid another crash-convention...:drive2:

However, I never got DQ when ignoring a stop/go on the last 2 laps!
Anybody know why?

Meanwhile, I have found out that the Mini does not have an adjustable rev-limiter. Dammit! :banghead:
Seems like I'll just have to drift it through the corners a bit faster...:hehehe:

[I_Am_Milk]

Speaking about dropping through the ranks, another strange thing -


I was racing online last night, and started at the back (I only just got in as quali finished) and I managed to overtake a few people (after some stupid spins on my own :roflmao:) and when I finished the race - ahead of a few people - it put me in last - even though I had no cut tracks or stop/go's.

But it was strange, I was registered 9th out of 9 - yet on the score board there were 2 people behind me who were still running their last lap but were place 7th and 8th.


Wtf is all that about? :eek:

[Pizzaman]

I was in there too, Milky (almost got ya in the end, but a wall got in the way:banghead:).
I saw strange things happen that night, including me scared sh:censored:tless because cars were appearing outta nowhere (Super-lag??):confused:

Then when we got in that mash on Dijon, I got 'connection lost':crazy:.
Guess the server was kinda 'off'that night:down:.
Cool racing, by the way. Tha t was real :up:FUN:up:
Although I am more used to seeing the rear of a white Alfa (Milky-white:roflmao:)

Server being kinda on the fritz may be an explanation?:chair:

In general, you can finish the race before others do and still not be before them. This is because 'your' last lap is the lap that the winners finish. So, maybe you'll make one less lap if they overtake you (you get 'lapped':eek:). Then people who are still racing (but didn't get lapped) finish later than you, but are 'in the same lap' as the winners, so they are in front of you in rank...

[Stu]

what button do you press to exit the pits after a stop/go penalty? I'm being left in there well after the 10secs penalty.

[David Wright]

You press return to start the penalty. There is no button to press after the penalty, you just drive out when the crew chief indicates you can (and put your limiter on :))

[Pizzaman]

Which reminds me: don't count on ot that you can do 5 laps when the setup says you can...:nono:
This depends on driving style and such, also there's no recalculation if you change the diff (a taller diff rate should be more economical:drink:).

I have ran out of fuel in the fifth lap quite a few times when filled up to 6 or 7 laps... and that's with a Mini...:drive2::clap:

:roflmao:

[David Wright]

Yes always allow a reserve :) And some add-on tracks are very unreliable in terms of fuel consumption.

With most of us being brought up on modern F1 its easy to get obsessive about fuel weight. The weight of fuel compared to the weight of the car is pretty small in GTL, its not worth risking running out of fuel for the sake of half a gallon or even a gallon. A gallon weighs about 3kg, the typical GTL car weighs 1000 kg - you won't notice an additional 3kg.

[Pizzaman]

Yup, better have a less fat bum, which saves at least 20 kg in some drivers.
O, wait, we are not really in the car :confused:. It''s only a SIM:D

Dammit, should have had those beans anyway then. :(

[grojosan]

This is a problem i had a few days ago in a 60 lap race at Spa: I ran the race with automatic pit lane control. I was on the way to a regular pit stop, when i got a Stop/Go penalty. When i entered the pits, I didn't have enough fuel to do another lap, but i had to do the penalty stop first and couldn't refuel the car. I tried to get around the track very slow, to save some fuel, but had to give up the race in the end. Is it possible to postpone a penalty and do the regular stop first?

[David Wright]

Is it possible to postpone a penalty and do the regular stop first?

No I'm afraid not :(