Ideas for Season 4

[KarlosDaJackal]

These are just random thoughts I have about season 4 for now. Nothing is rock solid. Feel free to comment or add your own suggestions, open to anything except using illegal mods, or a points system.

Season to start 3 weeks after the end of this season.

Season to comprise 8 to 10 races with a 1 week break after race 4 or 5.

Define our own car classes pre-season (e.g. move porsche GT2 in with the G2 cars, or move the C5 in with the GT cars, etc)

Have a testing ban for 1 race possibly 1st race. (race car+venue will only be announced 2 hours before the race when official practice starts)

Have another night race.

Have another race with 10% rain (evens out advantage of the faster cars, like 550, RSR)

Have a David Vs Goliath race (subject to testing fastest car from each class on a track/time where strategy will be all important, e.g 550 v RSR v Vertigo)

Put stabalizers on oppis's car so he can't flip it :p

Decide the pre-sign list for the whole season at the start of the season, based on regulars both in the races+forums (no point racing if you never talk, and no point talking if you never race :))

Have a progression of car class through the season, so first couple of races in G3, then NGT then G2 then GT at the end.

I had more ideas but I decided to write these down before i forgot them :D

[_UdioNT_]

All great ideas!
My only suggestion is to use official gtr2 tracks. The addon tracks are not so good and not perfect as official tracks

[Jack Stand]

Great ideas!!!
I think Oppis will feel relieved :p ..although tire wear is greatly reduced whilst on your roof.:rolleyes:
I like the progression of car classes as the season goes on.
The C5 in GT? ---:confused: Defining our own classes..I'm too much of a noob so I'll defer to those many who are more knowledgeable than I.
Any track is fine with me.

I think you've done an outstanding job on Season 3..the tracks and mix of cars has been most challenging, at least for me.

[fane]

Im all for that Karlos,especially the night races and rain.As for the tracks,there are so many addon tracks(good ones) that we cannot forget them.Only we have to do is test them to see if they work with 28 cars.Ah and put bmw nogrip made by moatlspeed in the server please:) (i know is a dificult request):up:

[Geordie055]

Good to start discussion on this early Karlos give everyone a chance to air views:up:

First off agree with stabalizers on Oppis's car, also more fire extinguishers's in Fanes car as manditory:roflmao: .If not, we send him back to whatever planet he came from{Orson?} maybe like Mork.

Agree with classing cars, 10% rain, definately another night race. Although mine ended prematurely this season. It went down well i feel. Signed and sealed Pre-season sign -up would clarify things also. Carry on with reviewing incidents, but if we have our regular drivers, i don't think you will be called into doing reviews, as in the last couple of weeks:( .

Progress through the vast array of cars available in-game. Season Finale Nordschiefe{night race though:eek: } as you've done this season and last:up:

One thing if possible, changeable conditions would add something extra maybe. Give it a trial in a fun race, to gauge feelings in post race discussion.

If i think of anything to add i will post in thread:up:

[KarlosDaJackal]

One thing if possible, changeable conditions would add something extra maybe. Give it a trial in a fun race, to gauge feelings in post race discussion.


I'd love to but i believe its busted in the game, conditions change during practice and qual but never during the race. Although i will try and test it.

[lowndes888]

These are just random thoughts I have about season 4 for now. Nothing is rock solid. Feel free to comment or add your own suggestions, open to anything except using illegal mods, or a points system.

Season to start 3 weeks after the end of this season.

Season to comprise 8 to 10 races with a 1 week break after race 4 or 5.

Define our own car classes pre-season (e.g. move porsche GT2 in with the G2 cars, or move the C5 in with the GT cars, etc)

Have a testing ban for 1 race possibly 1st race. (race car+venue will only be announced 2 hours before the race when official practice starts)

Have another night race.

Have another race with 10% rain (evens out advantage of the faster cars, like 550, RSR)

Have a David Vs Goliath race (subject to testing fastest car from each class on a track/time where strategy will be all important, e.g 550 v RSR v Vertigo)

Put stabalizers on oppis's car so he can't flip it :p

Decide the pre-sign list for the whole season at the start of the season, based on regulars both in the races+forums (no point racing if you never talk, and no point talking if you never race :))

Have a progression of car class through the season, so first couple of races in G3, then NGT then G2 then GT at the end.

I had more ideas but I decided to write these down before i forgot them :D



More street circuits like Monaco, Norisring, Adelaide and others :twisted:
I personally would like one race with single make Viper GTSR!:D
The old days of the huge success of the Viper GTSR are way behind us, so it's
a farewell from motorsport success event:cool:

[Fletch]

Have a testing ban for 1 race possibly 1st race. (race car+venue will only be announced 2 hours before the race when official practice starts)

Now that I like! :up:

It eliminates the disadvantage that some people have because they haven't had the time to practice during the week. (Like myself) :)

[BuRnY]

These are just random thoughts I have about season 4 for now. Nothing is rock solid. Feel free to comment or add your own suggestions, open to anything except using illegal mods, or a points system.

Season to start 3 weeks after the end of this season.

Season to comprise 8 to 10 races with a 1 week break after race 4 or 5.

Define our own car classes pre-season (e.g. move porsche GT2 in with the G2 cars, or move the C5 in with the GT cars, etc)

Have a testing ban for 1 race possibly 1st race. (race car+venue will only be announced 2 hours before the race when official practice starts)

Have another night race.

Have another race with 10% rain (evens out advantage of the faster cars, like 550, RSR)

Have a David Vs Goliath race (subject to testing fastest car from each class on a track/time where strategy will be all important, e.g 550 v RSR v Vertigo)

Put stabalizers on oppis's car so he can't flip it :p

Decide the pre-sign list for the whole season at the start of the season, based on regulars both in the races+forums (no point racing if you never talk, and no point talking if you never race :))

Have a progression of car class through the season, so first couple of races in G3, then NGT then G2 then GT at the end.

I had more ideas but I decided to write these down before i forgot them :DI like the sound of this !! Maybe a 90min race would be nice?

[Sludgey]

I'd love to but i believe its busted in the game, conditions change during practice and qual but never during the race. Although i will try and test it.

Over on RSC forums, there are apparently 2 ways to 'fix it'. (I've tested neither, but it might be worth investigating). 1 is to make your own weather.txt file, the other uses a modified GTR2dedicated.exe

http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=280611&page=2

from post 42 onwards for the useful stuff....


regards,
Sludgey

[oppis]

Thank you for the tip....... :D i think il go for two more wheels mounted out to the side of my car :cool: . Then i will allways have three wheels on the tarmac and then it will not flip :roflmao: over............ i hope

[fane]

I dont mind only nowing car and track in day race but i have a question:What will become of practice server in the week?Always in the same track?At least we could do some races to relax:D

[GearChange]

dont like night races, plus racers can adjust brightness to make it daytime again.
xx% rain is good, makes a nice change
50 min is good
2 hour announce would be bad for those of us that dont know most circuits.(im sure most of you know most circuits).
addon tracks have to stay, some of them are done so well.
pre season sign up not required at the moment, maybe later.

a single car race now and then would be good.

If enough racers want to regularly race how about creating a second heat and having two races one after another. you would need to say keep a minimum of twenty racers for heat 1 then all the others could go to heat 2? just an idea.

would it be possible to have a kind of handicap race now and then where the top finisher of the last race gets most weight added.

are there any cars that have very little setup available to them? would be nice to see us all race in a car that is setup the same.

how about an end of season fun oval race, should be close racing.

when i read this back sober tomorrow it will proabably all seem stupid

[fane]

A vote for a single car race now and then :up: I also think that we could do more races in short circuits like cadwell,the fun and excitement are greater there as we are more close together

[oppis]

quote karlos

Season to start 3 weeks after the end of this season.

Season to comprise 8 to 10 races with a 1 week break after race 4 or 5.

Define our own car classes pre-season (e.g. move porsche GT2 in with the G2 cars, or move the C5 in with the GT cars, etc)

Have a testing ban for 1 race possibly 1st race. (race car+venue will only be announced 2 hours before the race when official practice starts)

Have another night race.

Have another race with 10% rain (evens out advantage of the faster cars, like 550, RSR)

Have a David Vs Goliath race (subject to testing fastest car from each class on a track/time where strategy will be all important, e.g 550 v RSR v Vertigo)

Put stabalizers on oppis's car so he can't flip it

Decide the pre-sign list for the whole season at the start of the season, based on regulars both in the races+forums (no point racing if you never talk, and no point talking if you never race )

Have a progression of car class through the season, so first couple of races in G3, then NGT then G2 then GT at the end.






i am also in for this ........ it looks to be fun :D :p :roflmao:

[SoundMan]

a race here pls: Nordschleife

[the_wrexer]

How about single class races.Dont mind night racing but not with rain.Can do wet races in day though ok with that.Happy with your proposals so far :D

[jayblue]

I like the idea's Karlos has suggested, a longer season with a small break sounds good. Race's that hinge on strategy are a good idea too. Car progression get's a big thumbs up from me as for those who don't get to practice much driving the same car for a few races in a row will probably help out, as they can get to grips with the car fully then just concerntrate on learning the track and stting their strategy, it would simplify things a lot.
Can't say i'm keen on the car/venue been announced 2 hours before the race tho, as i'm normally putting my little boy to bed then, hence why i only join the server a few minutes before quali each week. That would mean NO practice for me, and i'm sure many others would have similar issues. Also it would be a long stint on the game for any who have wife's who demand a lot of time.... ;)
Rain and night races both spice things up but if possible i would REALLY like to see the variable weather patch on the server, that would make the races totally unpredictable but as already mentioned that need's testing first.
Keep the idea's coming! :up:

[jayblue]

a race here pls: Nordschleife

There is one in two weeks... :)

[jayblue]

Also re: secret location and car - the fact remains that some get A LOT of time to play the game anyway and are very familiar with all the tracks - To them doing this is probably just as bigger advantage as been able to practice all week long... We could announce the track for the week and put it on the server but keep the car choices secret, that way all know the track but can't "practice" fully and spend hours setting car's up etc. Might be a bit fairer? What do you all think?

[Sludgey]

jayblue, that sounds like a good compromise to me :up:

Sludgey

[fane]

Also re: secret location and car - the fact remains that some get A LOT of time to play the game anyway and are very familiar with all the tracks - To them doing this is probably just as bigger advantage as been able to practice all week long... We could announce the track for the week and put it on the server but keep the car choices secret, that way all know the track but can't "practice" fully and spend hours setting car's up etc. Might be a bit fairer? What do you all think?

Agree:up: that way server is up doing the logical thing that is runing the saturdays race track.As for the cars lol atention to the fuel/tyres usage because diferent car types,diferent usages:D

[Geordie055]

Agree with 3 previous posts on track announced, but car's not. Practise server is up to get to know lines, then a short time to get your set-up and stratergies.:up:

[DigitAL]

would it be possible to have a kind of handicap race now and then where the top finisher of the last race gets most weight added.

Is it possible to add weight? If so then we could do something similar to when I used to kart. Run quali as normal then announce there will be weight penalties (we used to do a reverse grid like this, but I suppose you can't reverse grid in GTR2) with the top quali getting the most weight and so on. Obviously this wouldn't happen at all tracks, down to the admin to decide when. Would certainly spice things up a bit. :)

Happy to race wherever and whenever and like the idea of the server having ALL cars available at a track during the week for practice and on race night open the server with the car list for the race at 8.00pm and go straight into quali2 for 15mins. Very little chance of getting a setup so it really would all be down to the driver!

That's my two penneth. :up:

[Steve_300ZX]

Having read all the suggestions, just a couple of my own thoughts:

10% rain doesn't seem enough for a wet race as was shown at Magny where I think most people raced on softs. Maybe enough rain so as to at least have to race in intermediates?

Have a race or (two?) where everyone uses the same car, same setup. Then down to driver ability more than the setup.

Those who have raced for a long time already have setups for most cars and tracks so even if track or cars are not announced until shortly before the race, some people will still have a setup for that particular
scenario, which would place an advantage to them.

Also being quite new to playing GTR (or any racing sim game for that matter) I don't have a lot of experience on any tracks so limiting practise would, for some like myself, also place an advantage to those who have raced for some time.

Maybe a 2 hour race, same car (something fast, Lambo fest would be nice) same setup (steering angles, gearing, tyres and fuel only thing allowed to alter, front settings page) where strategy would also play a key role.

Make the fast guys drive tractors!

[jayblue]

Having thought about it however we decide to run the league it's inevitable that the guys with lots of practice time will come out on top. Even if we keep the car secret as soon as it's announced some will be able to go on the game all day and get their setup, strategy etc done while others will be busy working and losing out, maybe more than they already do? Also those with lots of time will probably be able to practice in all the cars anyway and get a rough setup for each!
And let's not forget that many incidents already occur on the first lap at the moment, and we are all familiar with our cars, braking points etc. If the car was a mystery there ARE going to be LOT'S more accidents and i think that would be probably the most frustrating thing of all. None of us like to have our race's ruined on the first corner....
I agree with digitAL, the fairest way to do it is with weight penalties if possible.

[squalo79]

These are just random thoughts I have about season 4 for now. Nothing is rock solid. Feel free to comment or add your own suggestions, open to anything except using illegal mods, or a points system.

Season to start 3 weeks after the end of this season.
also a shorter break i wouldn't mind.
Season to comprise 8 to 10 races with a 1 week break after race 4 or 5.
great
Define our own car classes pre-season (e.g. move porsche GT2 in with the G2 cars, or move the C5 in with the GT cars, etc)
why not
Have a testing ban for 1 race possibly 1st race. (race car+venue will only be announced 2 hours before the race when official practice starts)
i think that by doing this it will kill pretty much the practice sessions that one can do during the week, sharing infos with the others on the practice server. i would leave it as it is.
Have another night race.
perfect
Have another race with 10% rain (evens out advantage of the faster cars, like 550, RSR)
i would like to do one with the real rain, where you do have to use wet tires for example ( or intermediate as previoulsy said)
Have a David Vs Goliath race (subject to testing fastest car from each class on a track/time where strategy will be all important, e.g 550 v RSR v Vertigo)
sounds very interesting

I had more ideas but I decided to write these down before i forgot them :D

-in addition to that, i honestly wld like to have more time during the official qualifying, like 20-25 mints max. i think that 15 mints is too short.
-why not doing longer races? maybe not all of them, but some would be nice ( like 75 mints/90 mints )
-i personally feel that the majority of the add on tracks are great and we should keep on with that.
-from time to time doing a race ( as a warmup ) in the middle of the week would be cool as well.

just thoughts...

[Deni]

So far I like the ideas given. They have some minor flaws but who cares :p .

Myself, I'd rearrange the qualifying lap. I'd give each one 3 laps (1 for warm up, 2 for setting their best lap). Each driver will start some 10 seconds interval from each-other, and if you screw that chance, tough you'll start from the rear :p .

With 28 cars, it's going to be tough, so probably also, break up the qualifying in 3 parts, 9, 9, 10 cars.

[jayblue]

Myself, I'd rearrange the qualifying lap. I'd give each one 3 laps (1 for warm up, 2 for setting their best lap). Each driver will start some 10 seconds interval from each-other, and if you screw that chance, tough you'll start from the rear :p .

With 28 cars, it's going to be tough, so probably also, break up the qualifying in 3 parts, 9, 9, 10 cars.

For me part of the skill in qualifying well is finding space on the track, and putting in your best lap when you've got... Also a ten second interval would probably not be big enough as over the 3 laps thats only 3 secs a lap to gain on the car infront, presuming of course that they don't spin off in the first place.

[KarlosDaJackal]

Myself, I'd rearrange the qualifying lap. I'd give each one 3 laps (1 for warm up, 2 for setting their best lap). Each driver will start some 10 seconds interval from each-other, and if you screw that chance, tough you'll start from the rear :p .

With 28 cars, it's going to be tough, so probably also, break up the qualifying in 3 parts, 9, 9, 10 cars.

Nice idea but I think it would be a little to hard to manage in a real event :cool:

[Kristofer]

A few ideas..

When running a wet race, go for 80-100% rain at least in one race to make it a real wet race. Changing conditions would be awesome, if it works.

In difficult conditions, like when its a night race and practice takes place in daylight. Add a 10-15min warm up session ahead of the race, to get a chance to drive a few laps in real race conditions before the start. The way it was in Magny Cours, not good imho.

Longer races is a good idea.

Introduce some kind of weight penalty. If the same driver keeps qualifying on pole for X number of races in a row, then add like 10kg to that car. Dont know how much it affects the performance, but im sure some kind of system can be arranged.

[Mad Hamish]

Longer races would be good, and maybe decrease tyre/fuel multiplier to 2x, so stints would be longer.

As for weight penalties, I dont think there is an option for that in the dedicated server. To use that the race has to be hosted from inside the game.

[APEXTECHUSA]

lets follow some f1 season tracks

[sege]

If enough racers want to regularly race how about creating a second heat and having two races one after another. you would need to say keep a minimum of twenty racers for heat 1 then all the others could go to heat 2? just an idea.

This idea hasn't been commented on yet I really like the Idea of two heats.
You could split it into a fast group/slow group, GT/NGT, etc.
Another way of looking at it would be even if we had no more racers available would this mean there would be room on the server to spectate 'live' for the race you're not running in?

I suppose on the downside we'd need someone to donate there time to running/organising the the second race, which if this had to be Karlos would be unfair, he works hard enough for us lot enough as it is! :up:

as we seem to be getting more and more racers all the time (from different parts of the world) perhaps we're getting to the stage where another race could be hosted at a different time?

In my opinion a race with say only 15 racers can be just as much fun as one with 28. providing they're are evenly matched of course.

Yikes this is a bit of an essay! and I probably haven't even come up with anything practical!!!:p

[McDanger]

I like the sound of a slightly longer qual session,20/30 mins would be nice,but more so a little 10 mins warmup session after qual would be great,im sometimes still shaking and flustered from qual and then find myself on the start grid with loads of angry cars all revving up around me,and i havent caught my breathe yet :eek: :p .Ofcourse massive thumbs up from me for ANY single make races :up: :up: ,all the other suggestions knocking around this thread show that the future here at NGR looks bright :cool: :up: .

[GearChange]

I like the sound of a slightly longer qual session,20/30 mins would be nice,but more so a little 10 mins warmup session after qual would be great,im sometimes still shaking and flustered from qual and then find myself on the start grid with loads of angry cars all revving up around me,and i havent caught my breathe yet :eek: :p .Ofcourse massive thumbs up from me for ANY single make races :up: :up: ,all the other suggestions knocking around this thread show that the future here at NGR looks bright :cool: :up: .


i have an idea, dont qualify and start from the back :roflmao:

seriously though i prefer it quick and yes it does involve a bit of luck with a clear track but i think that adds a fun element to it.

its a shame we cant make your start fuel the same as your qualify fuel. that would be an interesting option.

[Wmk-nate]

Talladega it would be like an wild card event wit just ferrari 550's that would be great drafting wit realy good drivers. think the race would come down to the last lap!!.There will always be an amazing finish.i think for the season opener we should do the Talladega SuperSpeedway !!!

[lowndes888]

Lets give out an award called AOT( Alien On Track) to whoever has the lowest time when you add the best qualifying and best race lap.

Of course, that's going to go either to Jay or Fane:p

[JPM]

How about adding an identical race around 10pm Central time for us Yanks who have kids and can't count on them taking a nap during the Sat races at 2 in the afternoon? Do it Friday nights around 10-11pm central - it would give everyone a chance to race and would allow those racing the normal race to get more practice if they wanted.

Or do it during the week as a practice race...

[JPM]

Yes... what Lightning said. North American friendly races after the boss goes to sleep.

[Kristofer]

lets follow some f1 season tracks

Like that idea! Would be interesting to race on some (other) F1 tracks, like Sepang, Suzuka, Istanbul to mention a few. Why not the old Hockenheimring in GT cars :clap:

[Deni]

IMO we should stick to "official" tracks that is tracks that came with the game. The "custom" tracks, while being fun, seem to have some problems or bugs In the last race in NS the pits are appalling! No more than a couple cars can take a pit. That's ridiculous. Also there are parts of the track where the cars behave not naturally.

The same was with Birmingham as well. It had some strange parts where the car didn't feel "normal".

[GearChange]

maybe open class every other race. x3 fuel and tyre wear adds more fun in my opinion :D so dont do away with that.

no more 7 minute a lap races, i really hated tonights race and trying to prepare for it. if we do long tracks like that maybe it would be a good idea to have it after the mid season break, so we get 2 weeks to learn it,,1 week was defo not enough for me to learn nordshlief tourist.

how about each week we change from
open class
specific car
open class
specific class, set laps/time to make choice of car more interesting(make it possible for slower car to do one less pitstop)
open class
specific car
etc

meaning every other week we would have a open class race.

all alien drivers should carry a weight penalty of 1/2 ton :D and should only be allowed to drive in reverse.

[APEXTECHUSA]

Nice idea but I think it would be a little to hard to manage in a real event :cool:

great just like F1 sounds tasty

[fane]

I think its time to learn about other guys are doing with other leagues,because the have learn from us to.So,how about a m3 challenge race,and put the moatls skin pack in the server? its simple everybody has to dl it but most of us had it already.The other thing are the tracks.We need more street tracks,we did a fun race at monaco and it went very well,so why not try another?.I agree with more time at qualify lets say 20 minutes and 10 minutes warm up.Longer races lets say 1 hour with less tyre wear and fuel maybe set to 2x.And we could get for example 2 races of 30 minutes each,like sprint races.And dont tell me that we cannot have mods,because we run mod tracks and they sometimes dont work well,like starting lights,pit espace etc:) If you do wanna really have fun ,then make a race at norisring with the beamer or do the magny cours national with the rsr

[tnt0228]

From the n00b perspective, Anderstorp South this season was great fun for me. An easy track to learn and slower cars made that practical for anybody. Perhaps another like that could fit into next season's schedule.

[KarlosDaJackal]

FYI's
* Monaco (with a twist) will be in next seasons schedule
* Another famous street circut will be in the mix also
* I've selected 10 tracks and car combos already, doing some testing now
* probalby will have 30 min qual sessions starting @7:30 and 60 min race starting @ 8:00
* We never got to use about 5 different cars last season, I've done some testing to figure out their speeds and expanded some of the car groups we used last season, without changing the balance of the groups too much.
* Nordschelife will not be on next seasons calendar (been on the last 2 seasons), but the replacement race will be just as much of a challenge :D
* At the moment its looking like the lower spec cars will get 2 races, on fairly easy to learn tracks (those tracks are way more intersting and fun to drive than anders south was, to keep it interesting for the aliens also)

For those that don't know I thought up last seasons schedule in the space of 40 mins after Dan made me the GTR2 League admin, I've had a bit longer to think about this one :) So hopefully it will be even better. Actually I can't wait for Season 5, I have a great idea for that one too :rolleyes:

[fane]

I must say that i agree so far with your choices Karlos,and i agree with nordi not beeing in the list for next seasin race.I had some graphical problems last saturday,the same i had with the race last season at vln.Sudenly frames dropped and it was very hard to drive in that conditions.The main problem is testing new tracks,see how they do with pit espaces,race time,and starting lights,cutting corners warnings etc.But thats what practice server is there for during week and i must say that i and my usual week buddies will help if you need:up:

[BuRnY]

FYI's
* Monaco (with a twist) will be in next seasons schedule
We're going to drive the Morgan????:P

[KarlosDaJackal]

FYI's
* Monaco (with a twist) will be in next seasons schedule
* Another famous street circut will be in the mix also
* I've selected 10 tracks and car combos already, doing some testing now
* probalby will have 30 min qual sessions starting @7:30 and 60 min race starting @ 8:00
* We never got to use about 5 different cars last season, I've done some testing to figure out their speeds and expanded some of the car groups we used last season, without changing the balance of the groups too much.
* Nordschelife will not be on next seasons calendar (been on the last 2 seasons), but the replacement race will be just as much of a challenge :D
* At the moment its looking like the lower spec cars will get 2 races, on fairly easy to learn tracks (those tracks are way more intersting and fun to drive than anders south was, to keep it interesting for the aliens also)

For those that don't know I thought up last seasons schedule in the space of 40 mins after Dan made me the GTR2 League admin, I've had a bit longer to think about this one :) So hopefully it will be even better. Actually I can't wait for Season 5, I have a great idea for that one too :rolleyes:

Oh I forgot to mention the skins thing.

They have tried them out this season in the GTL league and I've been keeping a close watch. It seems that they are causing a lot of people to drop out of races as they have trouble installing them or downloading them in time.

Considering most new people can't figure out the password or the time the race starts even though its posted in the thread, I think installing skins would be a step to far for them.

If we get a feeder race series going though :eek: (Something like a BMW championship on Mondays, :OMG: i must be mad, forget I said that.)

[PhilH959]

Since you can't add weight penalties.....maybe random starting spots? No qaulifying at all, just practice. Sometimes you'll be up front, sometimes in the back. Since this is a gentleman's league with honor...maybe give everyone a single setup (share svm file) on a single make? you have no way to check it, and that could allow cheating.
Mods and skins work. Just use one pack, MOATL's. The problem is folks don't always know how to install, so give that task to a sargeant...help desk as it were. Tracks should be tested by another sargeant, with 27 AI and themselve to insure lights, pits, flags all work and that there are no pace cars sitting on the track.
Submit a list of tracks and have all copy it and vote for it, then tally results to set the tracks by popular choice. You could do the same with car makes.
just a couple thoughts.
Phil

[Steve_300ZX]

I like the idea of skins. Would make the grids a bit more individual. I dont' know much about it but was looking at Moatl's site yesterday and he has this speed challenge pack. Is that the one Phil?
Maybe over the course of the next couple of weeks all those who want to take part next season could download it and work out how to install etc. so its ready at start of season. We could open a thread to help people having trouble. Put a link to the download and instuctions where to put it. If 2 many problems we would know in advance wether we can use it or not.
If the server is up and running I don't mind of an evening checking things out, And I am sure Fane, Nick and Wrex wouldnt mind doing that either. I feel a bit 'lost' now without being able to drive in the server, cos I am not going in the public ones to get my 'fix'. Tried that yesterday with Apex, lasted one corner, lol, same old story.
Your ideas sound great Karlos. Monaco with a twist? First track I spent any time on was Monaco and its the only track I feel confident on without too much practise. The twist though could put paid to that lol.
I am :cool: with what everyone decides. I like the sound of weight penalties. Not sure though if 1000k in Jays and Fanes cars would be too heavy for the springs though!
One thing I would like to see would be a wet race. Or one with changeable weather where we would have to think carefully about tyres and maybe have to pit if the skies opened up. Stategy could be all important then.

[jayblue]

I like all the idea's Karlos has suggested, sounds like season 4 will be a cracker :up: monaco with a twist sounds very interesting....

[fane]

Yeah monaco with a twist can be only with heavy rain:D Another track that we could use to do a night race is kayalami.Not sure about pit espaces thou,but i know that the track has a night version and i already tested it and its lovelly:up:

[PhilH959]

Yes Steve 300ZX....The speed challenge pack by Moatl. The ONLY problem with skins is when folks mess around and do tweaks, like changing the wheels on the car or the windshield banners etc. The car/skin MUST match what is on the server, or you will be unable to join, and will see your name flashing in the garage. With his pack you can still run any online server, and if they don't have his pack, you just select a standard Simbin car, and in you go! Over at NorthamericanGP, we are running the M3 mod, and everyone has selected a car # and they will use that car throughout the season. It's nice to have some color in the game.

Phil

[sege]

...If we get a feeder race series going though :eek: (Something like a BMW championship on Mondays, :OMG: i must be mad, forget I said that.)

Wahoo! yes please that would be greatlol!!!:roflmao:
Only kidding! you do heaps of work already Karlos, but still... one for the future maybe?

[sege]

What about a 'through the night' (sped up time ) Lienz GP/24hr TVR Vs Viper(CC) challenge? That track is just so much FUN!

That would encourage people to go carefull: try driving through there with no headlights!:D

Edit: Just realised that this is actually a dumb idea! The track is not available for dowload at NoGrip and also no idea how it stacks up with regard to the AIW files? No of pit boxes etc?
Oh well...

[SoundMan]

this may be cool for the future some time:

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=1929

very good skins these.