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BlueBlueBlue 30 March 11 18:52

Logitech Driving Force GT Settings
 
It seems that a lot of people are having trouble getting their specific wheels to work right in Shift 2 Unleashed. I think it might be beneficial to have a specific thread for each popular wheel type since not all tweaks may apply to all wheels equally. Therefore, by having individual threads per popular wheel model, users will be able to discuss and thereby maximize performance of their particular wheel in Shift 2 Unleashed more easily, quickly and precisely.

I am a Driving Force GT user here and I've noticed that using default settings, the wheel feels a bit weird in Shift 2. There is a bit of input lag, the force feedback is rather poor even at 100% and sometimes there is a "floaty" feeling while driving.

Anyone have any tips on getting the most out of the DFGT in Shift 2? S2U default set my wheel to 360 deg. of steering lock so I also set than in the wheel control panel. All other settings are default minus speed steering sensitivity which is default 0 and I set it to 50.

Dude27 30 March 11 18:59

I'm struggling too, I have still to try the Juls fix tonight.... maybe it will fix my lag.

If you have a good setup: give both Logitech profiler and ingame setup please!

BlueBlueBlue 30 March 11 19:10

It almost feels as if there is no FF active while in a straight, there's no tension on the wheel and it feels loose. The wheel doesn't feel too much better on corners either, it feels loose as well almost as if I'm missing some feedback, it's hard to tell what the tires are doing.

DoktorR 30 March 11 19:22

They tested the game only with xbox and ps3 gamepad, so don't wonder if the force feedback is not as good as it should be in a "next-gen racing simulation", how EA called Shift 2.

BlueBlueBlue 30 March 11 19:35

I tried a setting of 240 deg. of rotation in-game and in my DFGT control panel, this made the wheel WAY too sensitive in game, even a slight turn would make the car veer hard left or right. I used the 240 deg. without a problem. Seems like S2U handles the wheel settings differently...

Dude27 30 March 11 19:47

someone said 540 was perfect.... but do you have to change ingame and in the profiler?

BlueBlueBlue 30 March 11 19:58

I think you have to change it in both, if not they interfere and give you weird problems. Either way, I don't think that fixes the wonky force feedback...

Hagane007 30 March 11 21:54

I'm using a DFGT and all seems to be fine with me, aside from the occasional jerky feeling going into some soft turns.

I'm using 100% overall, Spring, and Damper in the profiler, as well as 70% centring spring strength. 720 degree rotation and "allow game to adjust settings" is unchecked.

sputnikwood 30 March 11 22:23

Played the game for about two hours. I'm not experiencing any sort of lag that is affecting my gameplay. Here are my settings for dfgt, both in-game and profiler. All sensitivity settings, I have it at 50%.

http://js-kit.com/blob/riTxm81nwQ5at6B9wBtlLR.jpg

http://js-kit.com/blob/ysL5G_R_h_XI_1YkdUVeNr.jpg

BlueBlueBlue 30 March 11 22:37

Interesting, I find that I have to have the Speed Steering Sensitivity at 50 for it feel good while you guys have it at zero.

Do you not guys feel the feedback is too weak?

frenkie71 30 March 11 22:50

I use DFGT same as you 360, but set the speed sensitivity to 0
Any other value of this gives you false feeling
(I don't use Logitech profiler for this game)

BlueBlueBlue 31 March 11 01:34

So here's how I'm playing now, wheel is set to 360 degrees in-game and in the Logitech software, all other settings are default. In-game everything is default minus steering lock as stated and dead zones all set to 0%.

The Lotus Elise and Exige though, handle really really wonky for some reason. All other cars seem to be fine.

kusari 31 March 11 06:22

No one noticed the dead zone in the pedals? Really? Anyway, the FFB really is a bit of a letdown but at least the input lag isn't there or at least it is small enough to not be a problem. From what I tested so far the best settings are: in the profiler 100/75/75 no spring and no "allow game to adjust settings " with 450-540 rotation; in game steering/brake/acc sensitivity 50%, no speed sensitive steering no dead zone on the pedals (and yet there is a huge one) and 1% dead zone on the steering to make it stable at straight line, FFB strenght is a question of taste but at least 30-40%, and again rotaion at 450-540.

SakuraBlack 31 March 11 09:00

@kusari
Yes i have dead zone.
like first Shift , but in Shift 1 i chance the Centre="0.000000" with Centre="1.000000" (like momo) in "vehicleset_pc_logitech_drivingforcegt_separateped als.xml" for both pedals
Unfortunately in Shift 2 not working and somehow "vehicleset_pc_logitech_drivingforcegt_separateped als.xml" keep the default value after modification and saving file.
Very weird.
Please help!

kusari 31 March 11 15:43

Well this is the first thing I tried but the xml files reset after you start the game and if you make them read only they don't but don't do anything either... Still no solution ...

SakuraBlack 2 April 11 08:37

I search in every file nothing maybe it is .exe file ???

2fast2drive 2 April 11 09:09

same deadzone problem here. anyone got solution?

smokinajayuk 2 April 11 11:33

Hey all
I've only just got the game im running on a PC
with my DFGT all default settings and i dont seem to get any input lag and the force feedback seem pretty good.
I normally play Race 07 with all the mods and that

serial thriller 2 April 11 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by kusari (Post 1331880)
Well this is the first thing I tried but the xml files reset after you start the game and if you make them read only they don't but don't do anything either... Still no solution ...


does this then knocks ffb off by the next race.

BlueBlueBlue 2 April 11 13:26

Here are my current settings that seem to work pretty well. I use the follow settings in concert with anti-aliasing off in-game as it kills performance which causes input lag. Also, I tune my cars spring rate and damper settings to the middle instead of the default soft. I also have to press ESC to get proper force feedback when I enter a race.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2z68pcw.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/hrbp4w.jpg

SakuraBlack 2 April 11 14:42

Evrika !!!
1 In Logitech Profiler make a Shift 2 profile
Click left on steering wheel-> axis propeties->lower sensitivity to 25%(lower setting increase reponse)
2 In game
Chose yours controller - DFGT, DFRX, DFEX etc.
Now set again both pedals.

And done. Now you have 0% dead zone and decent steering sensitivity(not like in GTR 2)
Tank you EA GAMES for 0 support.
All credits to my wine !!!

kusari 2 April 11 16:09

Does this fix the pedals dead zone ? If not what dead zone are you talking about ? (cant test it now)

SakuraBlack 2 April 11 16:17

&Does this fix the pedals dead zone ?
Yes

BlueBlueBlue 2 April 11 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by SakuraBlack (Post 1333946)
Evrika !!!
1 In Logitech Profiler make a Shift 2 profile
Click left on steering wheel-> axis propeties->lower sensitivity to 25%(lower setting increase reponse)
2 In game
Chose yours controller - DFGT, DFRX, DFEX etc.
Now set again both pedals.

And done. Now you have 0% dead zone and decent steering sensitivity(not like in GTR 2)
Tank you EA GAMES for 0 support.
All credits to my wine !!!

Do you have to lower the sensitivity of the brake and accelerator in the axis properties as well? I'm not sure what you mean by setting again both pedals...

SakuraBlack 2 April 11 18:46

@I'm not sure what you mean by setting again both pedals...
In game menu->controller setup don't leave default axial value Y,Z , press both pedals again .

kusari 2 April 11 20:13

@SakuraBlack thank you man! It works! Actually you don't have to set a profile for the game just change the axis for the brake and acc. to 25% and all is fine. Thank you again!

@serial thriller don't know what causes the FFB to disappear (actually it is only the dampening not all the effects). The only solution for now is to alt+tab the game, click on global device settings in the logitech profiler and click OK to confirm the setting again. Then when you return in the game the FFB is OK, but goes away again if you restart or start a new race ... very annoying ...

leahcim 2 April 11 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by kusari (Post 1334292)
The only solution for now is to alt+tab the game, click on global device settings in the logitech profiler and click OK to confirm the setting again. Then when you return in the game the FFB is OK, but goes away again if you restart or start a new race ... very annoying ...

The damping comes back for me by just hitting pause and resume - so long as you have control of the car at that point.

BlueBlueBlue 2 April 11 22:14

Reassigning the brake and accelerator pedal seems to fix the dead zones. You don't even have to change the sensitivity, mines at 50%.

furious_one 2 April 11 22:27

Pause - unpause brings the FFB back. Very annoying, hopefully they fix it with a patch, since it sounds like a simple fix, or someone makes a mod for it.

BlueBlueBlue 2 April 11 23:00

Driving Force GT Shift 2 Unleashed Settings
 
My FINAL settings (I am satisfied for now). Most cars feel VERY good to me. I hope this helps someone else!:-D


Pre-notes:


1. To get rid of the pedal deadzones on my DFGT, as per Sakura Black's suggestion (mostly). All I did was reassign (Select Brake/Accel, Press F, Press Brake/Accel respectively) the brake and accelerator pedals in the in-game control settings and set their sensitivity to 50% in-game.

2. By default, I tune ALL my cars steering lock, sway bars, spring rates and dampers to the MIDDLE values on their respective scales. They feel much better this way.

3. I have AA turned OFF in-game and OFF in my graphics card control panel. I am NOT using AA. AA results in a BIG performance hit which results in INPUT LAG.

4. SOMETIMES you must press pause/unpause the game to get the Force Feedback to work right.

Settings:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ntrolpanel.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...8-40-56-12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...8-41-03-60.jpg

SakuraBlack 3 April 11 07:23

I make custom profile for better and more precise reponse in steering , not pedals. Also i notice with default FFB setting in logitech profiler i have very good FFB.
Still some vizual lag and crapy contour graphics.
Also you must have 60FPS + for smooth gameplay.

Now someone make a topic at eagames/forum about this setting.
Too many people have this problem.

kusari 3 April 11 07:44

On my system turning NO/OFF the AA doesn't make any difference in FPS - 30-50 all the time. (E8400@3.6Ghz, 1x1Gb Corsair DDR2, GTX460 768Mb@800/2000). And I'm not sure that I feel steering lag. When FPS drop to ~30 there is that feel of lag, but when they are 45+ there isn't .. Much like in shooters - if you play with 25-30fps the mouse feels laggy, if you hit stable 60fps it is OK. So it is more of a performance problem to me than a controller problem. And the game needs a lot of optimization - hell it is more demanding than Crysis 2 (40-60fps on my system @1080p/advanced settings).

ditzola 17 April 11 06:24

Has anyone compared this to the G25 driving experience?

Xtra 28 April 11 21:16

Hi, i had also some trouble with my DFGT, so i tested several settings for the last week.

Now i have found out the best working settings for me.

1: deleted the game profile for shift2 in logitech profiler
2: reseted the global settings in logitech profiler to default
3: Increased the steering lock in logitech profiler to 900 deg.
4: Saved this settings and minimized profiler
5: Selected the DFGT - seperate pedals profile in Shift 2 options
6: Set the advanced options in shift2 (see the picture below)

Now i have no deadzones for steering/gas-/brakepedals and force feedback works fantastic for me. Give it a try, for me driving shift 2 is 1000% better then before, especially critical cars like the lotus exige/Dodge Viper are more driveable because you can better dose steering and gaspedal.

http://images.pctflux.net/2011042805...l_Settings.jpg

http://images.pctflux.net/2011042847...T_Settings.jpg

bobbavet 30 April 11 02:07

Gday guys

Im having a prob with my DFGT wheel and I see there are many solutions here. The thing is I don't even know what my problem is called. (I'm a wheel noob :laugh:). I have Juls mod and have installed patch.

I get a slight clunk, clunk when going from left to right, particularly at slower speeds, when loosing some grip. It's worse in some cars particularly high power low weight.

What is this called?

Is it game problem ie bug/car settings or a wheel setting problem?

Can it be fixed?

Other than this I am finding the game and wheel quite enjoyable.

Thanks for eveyone's forum activity :thumbup:

KwameR 10 May 11 05:20

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Hello fellow DFGTer's......I've been racing against another guy in my autolog as he also has a DFGT, all in a bid to test whether my settings are reasonable.

Our times have been comparable, so I'm happy at this stage.....if you look at the pick of the lap times you'll see I strung together 2min07 x4, with a best of virtually 207flat, so if you can thrash that time with a Benz190e works converted at Brno{day}, please inform us of the exact change{DFGT only}

As you can see I've snapped all my settings, and I must say, that the Benz feels downright awesome to drive, but it's always been a great car, even before the patch.

This is in elite mode, no mods, but with auto box{my paddles kaput}

EDIT:

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Dropped rear tyre pressure a bit and after a few sloppy laps, went 2.05.3xx

cgdincer 18 May 11 14:07

No one knows; the true ff working with instant race start. when you pause a game then resume; ff s crazy. its so hard to turning the whell and this s not real feedback...

SakuraBlack 20 May 11 08:52

In logitech profiler make sure you have disable "Allow Game To Adjust Setting" and now FFB work fine no need to pause/unpause or restart race.

Asz i said Shift2 it's a gay game with deflated tires time per lap are better

Kazumi 20 May 11 15:31

your wrong :-)

road cars do use tire pressures of 32 up to ~ 45 psi.

race cars usually use much lower tire pressure maybe around 16 - 32 psi.

EagleJohn 20 May 11 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by SakuraBlack (Post 1376100)
Asz i said Shift2 it's a realistic game with deflated tires time per lap are better

Fixed that for you. ;-)

SakuraBlack 20 May 11 19:47

You people ....
Check Shift 2 chassis file and Michelin Racing Tire Catalog .
In game For ALL cars with deflated tires(about 100kPa) time per lap are better than real life pressure~200kPa.Very big difference.
F....

Kazumi 21 May 11 14:45

not happening for me in most cars wihtout major upgrades.

where do you gain that time, higher corner speeds, turn in, less sliding... or maybe just in faster (super)cars :?:

JoeDogs 21 May 11 15:01

its not wrong w your setting or the weel setting. this game is crap!!! noting do w sim!!

DoktorR 22 May 11 01:09

I found a solution for me - lets wait for GTR 3.

SakuraBlack 22 May 11 06:34

Off:Dreeeam, Dream, Dream, Dream, Dreeeam
You know the song?
I rly like ... GTR 3 with DX11 graphic, real 5.1 sound, and all FIA GT Group, and Japan GT and some bonus cars like FXX Evo, Zonda R... Dreeeam, Dream, Dream, Dream, Dreeeam
On: I repeat: If you want a constant FFB uncheck the option "Allow Game To Adjust Setting" and the game it' work fine but not like Race series with many FFB options.

Kazumi 22 May 11 15:18

we wait for GTR3 (and rFactor 2) since even before Shift 1 announced :ohmy:

KwameR 22 May 11 16:07

All the xpansion packs=GTR3 along with their horrid GFX etc.
I consider myself someone who likes "racing games" in general, preferably more realism the better, but enough already with the 5yr old GFX for PC exclusives.

Hammer338th 7 June 11 02:05

DO NOT CLICK ON THE IMAGE FROM KwameR'S POST, IT POP UPS PORN AND MAY CONTAIN A VIRUS! MY 9 YEAR DAUGHTER WAS STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO ME WHEN I CLICKED ON IT TO SEE THE SETTINGS AND A PORN POPUP CAME UP! THANKS TO WHOEVER DID THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

KwameR 7 June 11 08:58

There's no porn pop ups for me, and it sounds like your PC is vulnerable if you're worried about viruses.....you should learn basic PC house keeping before acting hysterical.
imagevenue is one of the approved image hosting sites used by superiorpics.com, and this site doesn't allow explicit images.

Kaerar 7 June 11 10:33

Actually KwameR there are porn popup's. I'd move it to imageshack or photobucket if I were you. BTW my comp isn't open to that sort of stuff ;)

They popup if you hit close on the random ad popup which overlays the image.


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