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Old 15 April 12, 11:47   #1
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Default Looking for a good anti virus + firewall

Until now I've been using Kaspersky Internet Security 7. I liked it, but it's getting old and I want to switch to something newer. A newer Kasperky would be the obvious choice, but I wan't to have a look at what else is on the market. My requiements would be:

1. Really good protection
2. No huge slowing down of the PC (A long time ago I used some Norton anti virus and hated it with a passion )
3. Doesn't have to be free, as long as it's worth the money

What anti virus and firewall programs are you guys using?

Oh and please don't recommend AVG, avast! or Commodo. Tried those. AVG offers nearly no protection, avast! works just plain weird and Commodo isn't bad as an anti virus, but slows down the PC quite significantly.
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Old 15 April 12, 12:01   #2
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From my experience, neither comodo AV nor IS slow my system down significantly, and I'm running a fairly old system. If you want fast, try Clam4Win (ClamWin)
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got no slowdown at all with Comodo internet security ( free ) and my pc is not really fast or new ( q6600-4gb ram-hd4850 )
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Might retry the Commodo then, perhaps it was my old version (I tested it some time ago). But if anyone has more input on AV's, I'll be glad to hear it
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microsoft security essentials is gr8 and its free
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microsoft security essentials is gr8 and its free
Agreed. It runs very well with Windows 7.
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Hmm, so it seems it's either [Comodo Internet Security] or [MS Essentials + Comodo firewall], as the Essentials have no friewall. Thanks for the replies guys. If anyone has something more to say, I'll be glad to hear it
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Either avast! or AVG free versions and the free version of ZoneAlarm's firewall have kept my systems safe/clean for years.
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microsoft security essentials is gr8 and its free
agreed also.

EDIT: MSE + built-in windows firewall is enough, imo.

never had any problems whatsoever.
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I use PCTools Firewall Plus, it's proven reliable and effective; though it's a royal pain the first month as it questions everything.

For AV, have used Avira for years as my full time scanner; in comparison tests it's always one of the top two. Also have MSE and Malwarebytes; shut down Avira a couple of times a month and let each of those do a full system scan. Once a month I let ESET online do a full scan (go to bed and hope it's done by morning). If any one of those triggers on a file, I upload that file to virustotal for their results.

My current system is five years old, is online 24 hours a day, routinely uploading and downloading (even the occasional torrent), and only once has malware slipped in (Win32/Sirefef, it activated but my firewall prevented it from doing its worst).
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I have been fully satisfied with the pro versions of ZoneAlarm on my different Windows versions.
At the moment Im running version 9.3 on Win7-64 and is specially keen on ZAlarms game mode. Pretty handy when you are gaming online.
AntiVirus software is waste of money and/or PC power.
In the more than 10 years I have been on the net I have only had 1(one) ridiculous little virus.
Ridiculously easy to detect and get rid of.

When people say that AntiVirus software dont slow their PC down they should check some serious comparisons with/without.
Like the tests the german magazine PCgames&HW has made again and again.
Not slowing down. Hahahaha.
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AntiVirus software is waste of money and/or PC power.
Luckily there are good, free AV programs And whenever I tested race sim performance with and without AV in the past, I never noticed any performance difference.

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In the more than 10 years I have been on the net I have only had 1(one) ridiculous little virus.
Ridiculously easy to detect and get rid of.
But what if it had been a very nasty virus that renedered your PC unusable? If you can get infected with a small virus by accident, you can get infected with a big virus as well. And such a thing happening once every 10 years is once in every 10 years too many
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I use Comodo Firewall and AVG anti virus, both free and my PC is about 10yrs old still runs games decently. Haven't had a major or minor virus on this machine. Just be sure to have comodo in Game mode when playing games
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I use MSE. It's good for me.
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ESET security has been awesome for me no problems at all whatsoever,
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I'd say give Avast a shot if you won't like other suggestions from here, my experience over 2 years was very positive, I don't see how it works "weird" and it uses exactly ZERO cpu.
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I've used AVG, Panda and Avast---using Avast right now----they are all good.
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Luckily there are good, free AV programs And whenever I tested race sim performance with and without AV in the past, I never noticed any performance difference.


But what if it had been a very nasty virus that renedered your PC unusable? If you can get infected with a small virus by accident, you can get infected with a big virus as well. And such a thing happening once every 10 years is once in every 10 years too many

If a nasty virus got me I would zero write my HDD and restore a TrueImage in
about 5 minutes all up.

How many of the AV programs would find the 10 year virus ?
If you are not using the right one ..........

If they all did the same job we would only need 1 that is why they are baloney.

The safest way is not to browse or download what you dont know is 101% safe. Dont use community sites, dont use "flash" > (u talk about virus lol ) ALot of other programs are virus traps.


If you want to trawl all these places get a $100 dollar doorstopper tower, it is all you would need for download manager browsing porn :p ...whatever

Better then spending 100 on AV
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The safest way is not to browse ...
So how are you contacting nogrip ...smoke signals?
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Putting out of context much jgf? He said sites that are not 101% safe.. I don't think nogrip is exactly a warez infected hive of evil ware..
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But what if it had been a very nasty virus that renedered your PC unusable? If you can get infected with a small virus by accident, you can get infected with a big virus as well. And such a thing happening once every 10 years is once in every 10 years too many
Ahh. Come on Redi. You cannot mean that seriously. 10 years!!
And the more than 10 years wasnt a lie.

OK I have to add that since my net career started I have allways used some kind of image tool (Ghost) for my small C: partition.
So if I think a nasty site is trying to come and get me I just reload an image in 6min(Win7-64).
No big deal - really.

But again. More than 10 years.
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Old 16 April 12, 20:39   #22
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used mse for years - was quite alright - never had issues personally.Now went to GData as it has an advanced firewall and constant updates. You have to fiddle a bit for some but is safe and nice to fiddle through the settings.
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Malwarebytes.

Very pro and free if you only wanna use it to scan and clean. Only have to buy it if you want realtime protection. Malwarebytes is the best I have seen at cleaning tricky infections.
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i use Nod32 and Malwarebytes.
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Can't go past Nod32 excellent on system resources and catches threats most other programs miss.
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Spybot is good to have as well - free - (unless you donate) regular updates too.
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Putting out of context much jgf? He said sites that are not 101% safe.. I don't think nogrip is exactly a warez infected hive of evil ware..
I build lots of PC and tweak OS for people, I will not use install or recommend any AV rather tell them to get on the internet and get informed because simply I do not believe in them. :p


I think jgf just jumped at the phrase by mistake.

1. You need to have to have a bullet-proof procedure to back up your perfect sim hardrive Operating System, ( I hope you keep them seperate )

You will rarely find a boot virus these days that infects extended partitions.
All that is old school stuff no worry unless you go downloading years
old "stuff".

2. Yes use trusted sites.
I told people years back not to use ubbob and spaceface accounts.
Besides the obvious dangers what do they do, sell you out in the end.
Flash, Media player online virtually any software online are virus honey pots.

3. Use another cheap PC for all this and free up your gaming rig.
That way you can run it with full AV, rstore points, full security, encryption .... whatever it will not matter how much process................

I mean seriously, if you do not know what is safe to browse and download and use on your game tower you should give up while you are ahead.



Oh yeah, tell me it was not a concerted effort to infect Mac users.
" Oh crap ! Ethel !@! we must go to the store right now and get a AV " :p

"Nothing can save you from yourself"
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Ahh. Come on Redi. You cannot mean that seriously. 10 years!!
And the more than 10 years wasnt a lie.

OK I have to add that since my net career started I have allways used some kind of image tool (Ghost) for my small C: partition.
So if I think a nasty site is trying to come and get me I just reload an image in 6min(Win7-64).
No big deal - really.

But again. More than 10 years.
Of course once in 10 years is pretty good, it only takes one misjudged mouse click to get into trouble But still, having a good AV program running can prevent frustration, as the performance hit these days with modern PCs is just negligible IMHO. Do you have a link to that test of performance impact of AV programs? I couldn't find it.
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Thats true that years ago if your pc was infected you could usually find out simply by degraded performance, this hardly happens nowadays.
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Do you have a link to that test of performance impact of AV programs? I couldn't find it.
My fault Redi. Because PCG&HW make these kind of tests(comparisons) about twice a year so I refered only vaguely to them.
But as Im a Subscriber I can try to find the last one in my backnumbers.
By the way. Im not sure PCG&HW publish more than the test-headline on the net.
They want to make money, you know.

But until I find the last one (and documents it) I can tell you that the tests shows that all running antivirus progs use more ressources than one would think.

A last note: In all seriousity what can really happen that you cannot solve in 5-6min if you use a real image prog? Really?
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A last note: In all seriousity what can really happen that you cannot solve in 5-6min if you use a real image prog? Really?
Well in the worst case, if you made an image one month ago and your PC is inaccessible because of the virus, you lose 1 month of work/downloads/savegames/pictures/music etc.
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I have said this before...

If you want to run without AV protection, then knock yourself out. That's your choice.

But telling other people they don't need them is not very responsible.

Any IT professional would always advise running a good AV + firewall.
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@Altarir.... If you are behind a router, MS built in firewall is more than enough. I personally like Avast for AV protection along with Malwarebytes for spyware. I keep both updated and I use them to scan every file that comes into my computer. I've had no slowdown and zero viruses. I also like CCleaner for cleaning out any junk files. RevoUninstaller for program removal and keeping the registry clean followed by Auslogic disk defrag to keep it all neat and compact. Remember AV is only as good as the enforcement so make sure everybody in the household uses it...everytime.
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Microsoft one is good because it don't has those false alarms every file you download, I remember when I had avast and it was telling my race07 .rar's were viruses wut...
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Well in the worst case, if you made an image one month ago and your PC is inaccessible because of the virus, you lose 1 month of work/downloads/savegames/pictures/music etc.
Is this intended? It sounds like you purposedly misunderstands me.
In my 1st post I said:
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Like the tests the german magazine PCgames&HW has made again and again.
And then you ask for a link to THAT test!!
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I have allways used some kind of image tool (Ghost) for my small C: partition.
implying that on this small partition(!) I dont mess with "work/downloads/savegames/pictures/music".
Is it that hard to understand? Or do you want to understand at all?
No reason to invest seriousness in a discussion if the opponent dont wish or is able to read.
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I have said this before...
If you want to run without AV protection, then knock yourself out. That's your choice.
But telling other people they don't need them is not very responsible.
Any IT professional would always advise running a good AV + firewall.
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A last note: In all seriousity what can really happen that you cannot solve in 5-6min if you use a real image prog? Really?
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Webroot SecureAnywhere Essentials Edition.
Cost me about A$80.00+/- loose change PA and is the best I've come across.
No slowing down of ANYTHING provided it is set up correctly.
Certainly not the cheapest but it's money well spent.
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Good AV = Unicorn

Good Firewall = http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...omparison.html

or

http://www.watchguard.com/products/xtm-3/overview.asp

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http://www.juniper.net/us/en/product...ries/#products

If it runs on the machine you are trying to protect you are wasting your time. You are the biggest threat to that PC.
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But you just gotta love computers.. since I installed ssd I had random BSODs.. when I just restarted it wouldnt load. But when I take every possible cable (I mean every, not just 2 leading to ssd) in my own hands it starts to work.. sometimes it can be just hard to even know whether its sw or hw problem lol.
Edit: lol how careless am I? Just discovered one prehistoric hdd had power unplugged BUT sata was still there. This obviously confused win and even the pre-bios screen.

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I was using MSE until it totally missed a virus, went with Avast free, and never looked back, it found the virus on the first scan.
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You should also consider http://free.agnitum.com/ for Agnitums free Security Suite (AV & Firewall)
I have been using their firewall for a long time now, that I paid for and the same one comes in their free security suite.
http://www.agnitum.com/
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Is this intended? It sounds like you purposedly misunderstands me.
In my 1st post I said:

And then you ask for a link to THAT test!!
And then I said:

implying that on this small partition(!) I dont mess with "work/downloads/savegames/pictures/music".
Is it that hard to understand? Or do you want to understand at all?
No reason to invest seriousness in a discussion if the opponent dont wish or is able to read.
No I am not misunderstanding you on purpose, why should I? I don't understand your reference to the magazine test, as I wrote earlier I tried to find it but I couldn't (I searched on the magazine's website).

As for the drive image, did it occur to you that a virus can infect/damage more than just your Windows partition?
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Old 19 April 12, 11:21   #43
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You might want to try http://www.bullguard.com/. I have used for over 3 years and it works flawlessly
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in the last 3 years , i used windows default firewall , avg 9 (cracked license till 2018) and never had problems , even never reinstalled my windows xp(which basically runs like in the first days)
as long as you disable some unnecessary windows services, and you don't use internet explorer , you should be ok
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Another one you might try is VIPRE from Sunbelt.
http://www.vipreantivirus.com/VIPRE-Internet-Security/

Vipre Internet Security 2012 is what I'm running,and it offers a unlimited lifetime license.

Prices start at $49.95 for a 1-PC licence.Light,effective,and unobtrusive.
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wow, now I got too much choice

I distrust avast! for one reason - a friend of mine once had a virus in explorer.exe, and avast! deleted explorer.exe. That's like shooting a patient instead of curing him .

I won't use AVG either, as it didn't detect quite a lot of viruses when I last used it

I'm not behind a router sadly

Malwarebytes and NOD32 seem worthy of checking out. Thanks very much for the replies!
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I liked Vipre a lot too, the Pro version also has a very extensive firewall (former Sunbelt Firewall). I switched to MSE after the license expired and am fine with that too now
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