Wrc3

sirafe · 2 June 12, 22:19

Hola a todos

, video: http://www.spaziogames.it/videorecen...778/wrc-3.aspx

Kaps · 4 June 12, 13:44

Nice video, I really wanted to see Monte Carlo, but also New Zealand would be nice!

Luke · 4 June 12, 14:55

Looks like there's been a HUGE evolution from WRC2...

Luke · 4 June 12, 14:59

http://www.gamereactor.no/bilde/?tex...4341&id=437591

SukIS04 · 7 June 12, 05:25

AGAIN seems like just 6 (mostly reused) 3-5min stages pr. country, static weather, no night stages, no proper ditches etc etc..
+ let me guess.. no clutch for you !! :p

why not alternate the wrc license btw codemasters, milestone ( or a new contender )every year or so, instead of this throwup every year ?
-best voted demo = next year wrc lic

IWE · 7 June 12, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke

http://www.gamereactor.no/bilde/?tex...4341&id=437591

Oh wow how much they have upgraded since least year! Ford have new livery, lots of private teams have disappeared since last season few drivers have changed team, and box have number 3 instead of 2. Definitely worth of buying if already owning the both last ones (NOT!!!!).

Dunno why but WRC licence seems to end always to companies which release 99% same game every year.. Sony was doing exactly same for 5 years till they realized no one dumb enough to buy their game anymore.

Luke · 9 June 12, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by IWE

...Dunno why but WRC licence seems to end always to companies which release 99% same game every year.. Sony was doing exactly same for 5 years till they realized no one dumb enough to buy their game anymore.

Agreed. I guess they do that In order to avoid the cost of presenting new stages every year. To me, new stages for every sequel Is the most Important thing the series should have.

IWE · 9 June 12, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke

Agreed. I guess they do that In order to avoid the cost of presenting new stages every year. To me, new stages for every sequel Is the most Important thing the series should have.

Actually after thinking about it having mostly same stages every year would even make sense IF they had real stages as they were saying before first game (Sony did same btw), but same fictional über-wide sprint stages in every game doesnt really make any sense.

jmmontoro · 12 June 12, 00:35

It's still to early to judge WRC3, but from what they've announced so far it looks like a definitive improvement from last years game.

Codemasters doesn't need a license to make a rally game, and the only thing they've done with rally in Dirt are very few and very short stages. I doubt they'll release an yearly game if they buy the license, they would mix Dirt with the licensed stuff and that's it mostly.

If I'm not mistaken the license covers the use of the WRC brand, the teams and their drivers, other games can approach the teams for their brands, but not their drivers. The rallies and stages are free to be used by anyone, you can't license geography, if no new game has proper stages is not because of lack of licensing, but Milestone should definitely stop reusing sectors.

Kazumi · 12 June 12, 00:51

They can keep the old stages. Game with 60 stages sells better then one with 10. That's no issue IMHO but there must be of course some really good stages. And if 10 km is too long for some then make it 2 seperate stages so you get 3 stages in the end (+ reverse it's even 6!) . If things are good they can be reused.

jmmontoro · 12 June 12, 18:20

WRC 3 - Teaser trailer

Remember that requesting hard core features makes the game very difficult to sell.

People keep wishing that Codemasters buys the license, and don't understand that they don't need the license, they're just not interested in a rally game, they have more than they need with Dirt. They will only disappoint us more.

Dynamic weather is ridiculous, even with real life length stages. They should make different weather for the same stages and randomize them, dry, wet, raining/snowing.

The moderators could change the title of the forum, WRC 2010? Milestone WRC series would be more appropriate.

Kazumi · 12 June 12, 18:40

That's right I'd focus on things that attract all audiences. Like as I said long stages but with also short layouts available. In terms of physics, if it would be full sim, add ABS optionally (would have helped RBR newbies, as braking is really hard to master)

But they already made the championship advance with more stages per event optionally. That's a good idea. I'd even do a Sega Rally like mode with 5 stages through all countries.

Yes, changing weather for 10 minute long stages is, I dunno. You can't spend resources on everything! Although even a precalculated weather on a stage from light rain to sunny would be awesome...

So I agree still... the basics for "Hardcore" should also be there.

IWE · 12 June 12, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmmontoro

If I'm not mistaken the license covers the use of the WRC brand, the teams and their drivers, other games can approach the teams for their brands, but not their drivers. The rallies and stages are free to be used by anyone, you can't license geography, if no new game has proper stages is not because of lack of licensing, but Milestone should definitely stop reusing sectors.

DiRT3 had some real WRC, rallycross, etc.. drivers and both 2010 WRC factory teams, Monster World Rally team,.. And also 2011 Ford and Mini including some real drivers.

That was first time since Colin McRae Rally 3 when they had any real WRC liveries in the game. In CMR2 they had lots of real WRC teams, but no real drivers and in CMR1 they had even real drivers without having official WRC licence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmmontoro

People keep wishing that Codemasters buys the license, and don't understand that they don't need the license, they're just not interested in a rally game, they have more than they need with Dirt. They will only disappoint us more.

They don't need official licence to make proper rally game but they are sure interested to do one and that's why they have parted rallying and bumper cars partymode as 2 separate games to please both audiences (rally fans and ps3 party gamers).

jmmontoro · 12 June 12, 22:09

I was aiming at the stages, that they could've done more with the stages without the need of a license. Codemasters rally stages are 1m-2m long, and there are maybe 10 different. Is that what people want but with all liveries and names?

Kazumi · 12 June 12, 23:10

On the other things in Rally world currently there's

gRally http://grally.net/

Interview with one of the gRally team from december 2011 http://issuu.com/autosimsportmediall...sport_vol6num1 (Page 44)

and RallySim http://rallysim.net/

Both are still in very early stages but there are few pics and videos showing progress. We will see

But I think in case of WRC 3 they just have to decide very early what they can put into the game with yearly releases. At least their stages aren't just 1 m long!

Luke · 13 June 12, 08:39

Amazing Improvement done for WRC3, from what seen on teaser trailer!
New particles, new lightings, redone/refreshed special stages...
Looking forward to this release!

Kazumi · 13 June 12, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke

Amazing Improvement done for WRC3, from what seen on teaser trailer!
New particles, new lightings, redone/refreshed special stages...
Looking forward to this release!

TommiTAG · 14 June 12, 16:32

Thanks for the information, everyone.
I also agree with all points commented above.

One disappointing thing about recent Milestone's titles is they don't seem to make effective use of their developed technologies.
For example, Milestone developed "Evolving Track System" for "SBK X" first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_WVvhSRmyQ

But they didn't use this technology in WRC series.
The same about "Rewind System" of "WRC 2". They didn't use it in "SBK Generations".

"Evolving Track System" seems to have a potential to be a great feature for WRC series to make each SS more replayable.
And also, Milestone developed several nice techs for "MUD FIM Motocross World Championship" too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=R-y3ogJhze8

I hope they will use these techs effectively for "WRC 3" and make the title better

Luke · 16 June 12, 11:43

Vote and send your message to the developers

http://www.yourfreepoll.com/ltjprpvfsr.html

Luke · 22 June 12, 15:58

http://www.wrcthegame.com/

REAL SOUNDS: the new engine allows a different management of in game sounds and effects. All the cars have been live recorded also with on board microphones to catch all the real effects heard by the drivers. For each country (EFIGS) a professional actor have been appointed to perform peace notes given by a real co-driver to guarantee a real on board environment to the player!

VW Polo R WRC officially confirmed!!!

Brand new routes for 7 Rallyes !!!

TommiTAG · 24 June 12, 10:56

Thanks for all the information, Luke.
Not "Brand new routes for 13 Rallyes" though

, it sounds really promising

Luke · 27 June 12, 12:19

New Interview! Doesn't add much to those already know...Maybe a couple more words
about the refreshed career mode, which probably differ from the previous ones.

TommiTAG · 4 July 12, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke

New Interview! Doesn't add much to those already know...Maybe a couple more words
about the refreshed career mode, which probably differ from the previous ones.

Thanks for this new information, Luke (I've missed out and sorry for my late reply).
New career mode sounds good. And I'm looking foward to the new gameplay vid with improved physics too

!

Luke · 4 July 12, 19:13

Ι agree-Maybe some don't like the Idea of a career enriched with skills challenges but I think It will be a refreshed element In the new game, as the format of the previous career mode In WRC2010 and WRC2 was quite boring, racing the same stages again and again on different cars. Anyway, he official rally calendar will still be there, for the pure rally feeling!

p.s. Don't worry though-We won't see anything like Codemasters DiRT3 modes (gate crasher, cats n' mouse, cardboard alliens, Infected cars e.t.c.)

TommiTAG · 4 July 12, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke

Ι agree-Maybe some don't like the Idea of a career enriched with skills challenges but I think It will be a refreshed element In the new game, as the format of the previous career mode In WRC2010 and WRC2 was quite boring, racing the same stages again and again on different cars. Anyway, he official rally calendar will still be there, for the pure rally feeling!

Agreed. If we'll be able to enjoy "Pure Rally Feeling" (really nice words, Luke), it would be really great

!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke

p.s. Don't worry though-We won't see anything like Codemasters DiRT3 modes (gate crasher, cats n' mouse, cardboard alliens, Infected cars e.t.c.)

!

Canuck59NHL · 5 July 12, 06:47

Hi all,

Here a new video in French:
http://www.jeuxactu.com/wrc-3-jeuxac...2012-81685.htm

Luke · 5 July 12, 08:19

Looking awesome Canuck!!! Great find!

TommiTAG · 7 July 12, 08:22

Nice finding, Canuck !
Both physics and tracks look very good

sirafe · 7 July 12, 13:48

Excelente video Canuck!

Hezemans · 10 July 12, 07:58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLBF9...layer_embedded
Full stage video.

JayS · 10 July 12, 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hezemans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLBF9...layer_embedded
Full stage video.

Sorry guy, but this video is from WRC 2.

I know it.

To the Topic.

I've seen a few impressions of WRC 3 and I've big hopes for this game.
Especially that they announced 7 brand-new routes for rallyes. But on the other hand side it's a bit disappointed for me is that the Milestone Lead-Designer said, that the stages have a max. 10km length. He also said that the graphical impression and detail of a "Shorter Stage" is more important than a 30-40km stage with low detail and only roads and trees. I also hope that the graphics quality is as good as on the screenshots and nothing of a "Screen-Show".
But I will try to ask Milestone via E-Mail which Rallyes exactly the mean with the 7 new Routes and if the Super-Special-Stages are also reworked.

Stay updated.

Hezemans · 10 July 12, 10:25

Argggggggggggg VirtualR!

Luke · 21 July 12, 09:46

Official release date:

Luke · 23 July 12, 20:48

WRC3 cover packs revealed!
http://www.teamvvv.com/en/news/comme...shots-revealed

Luke · 24 July 12, 09:10

New footage from the presentation during the Acropolis rally 2012:
You can clearly hear the new blow-off valve sound @ 0:51
Also the article reports, cars get damages, when driving off road! That will give an end to cheating I guess...

(In Greek)
http://www.enternity.gr/Article/WRC-...42.html?page=1

DantePLL · 24 July 12, 09:53

Oh no. I was really hoping Milestone will provide a real simulator this time, or at least bring more simulation that former games. Looking at the video I have to say that Richard Burns Rally will probably remain the king of rally sims for a long long time.

I hope that all the new content will prove good enough.

Luke · 25 July 12, 09:40

Amazing Improvement In this new In game video!!!

JayS · 25 July 12, 13:23

I completely agree with you, Luke!

Finally it looks like a rallye game. Hope also for more improved stages like this.

SukIS04 · 25 July 12, 21:06

Yeah but only view behind car makes me car sic :p
some behind WHEEL view etc also please !

And some from dev wheel and control (if theres a clutch, lights switch ) config etc plz..

jmmontoro · 25 July 12, 21:41

Behind view lets them show off graphics and physics better. It looks great, really exited.

Luke · 26 July 12, 12:27

Car's physics please me a lot. It's very obvious, car now reacts more natural on asphalt and doesn't have that 'Ken Block drifting -all-the-time' behaviour.

Kazumi · 26 July 12, 15:32

Yep, he's just forcing it with high wheel (or pad) lock / input. Short wheelbase, medium - low-ish (it's current WRC after all) power and center lock then helps through the corner. Still I'd like to see a lap by a pro or at least very good driver. Graphics look good considering many stages 5 - 10 km, good colors and view into distance. Sound mhh...

maeckie · 26 July 12, 15:59

has anyone seen system requirements for it ?
the wrc3 site says nothing about it... does someone have heard sth. about it ?

Luke · 26 July 12, 19:40

As far as I know, there Is no news at all, regarding requirements.

jmmontoro · 26 July 12, 22:43

More to come soon! Looking great!

Luke · 27 July 12, 09:19

Alan's review Is much more enthousiastic, compared to his previous ones for WRC2010 & WRC2.
He has some hard times while driving ( though he Is a very experienced gamer) and that shows that the difficulty level In car's handling, has been raised!
One of his comments :'...WRC3 Is much more challenging than DiRT3, regarding car's behaviour on different surfaces...' says It all!
I noticed he can't be In high speeds all the time and that shows the new game will demand more trechnical driving than...just speed! Yes, the co-drivers sounds like a real person now and there Is a tension In his voice while calling out the pacenotes, which gives a real sense of a co-driver. Stages shown have all the characteristics of real rally stages (narrow, twisty, with many changes of surface surrounded by a detailed enviroment, which Isn't as 'empty' as In the previous games.)

Based on what seen so far, I think WRC3 will be returning the series back to their traditional roots!

Luke · 27 July 12, 10:38

WRC3 EXCLUSIVE SCREENSHOTS!!!

'WRCgame GreekFans' facebook page logo, will be featuring In WRC3 (Acropolis rally)

Luke · 27 July 12, 10:40

http://www.facebook.com/wrcgame.greekfans

sirafe · 27 July 12, 12:07

Muy buenos videos e imagenes!
Very good videos and images!

Luke · 27 July 12, 12:29

WRC3 preview-part3 (Acropolis rally)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZCDQ...1&feature=plcp

2 June 12, 22:19	#1
sirafe Join Date: Jun 2008	Wrc3 Hola a todos, video: http://www.spaziogames.it/videorecen...778/wrc-3.aspx

4 July 12, 19:13	#24
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	Ι agree-Maybe some don't like the Idea of a career enriched with skills challenges but I think It will be a refreshed element In the new game, as the format of the previous career mode In WRC2010 and WRC2 was quite boring, racing the same stages again and again on different cars. Anyway, he official rally calendar will still be there, for the pure rally feeling! p.s. Don't worry though-We won't see anything like Codemasters DiRT3 modes (gate crasher, cats n' mouse, cardboard alliens, Infected cars e.t.c.) Last edited by Luke; 4 July 12 at 19:25.

4 June 12, 13:44	#2
Kaps Join Date: May 2004 Location: Croatia	Nice video, I really wanted to see Monte Carlo, but also New Zealand would be nice!

4 June 12, 14:55	#3
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	Looks like there's been a HUGE evolution from WRC2...

4 June 12, 14:59	#4
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	http://www.gamereactor.no/bilde/?tex...4341&id=437591

7 June 12, 05:25	#5
SukIS04 Join Date: Dec 2009	AGAIN seems like just 6 (mostly reused) 3-5min stages pr. country, static weather, no night stages, no proper ditches etc etc.. + let me guess.. no clutch for you !! :p why not alternate the wrc license btw codemasters, milestone ( or a new contender )every year or so, instead of this throwup every year ? -best voted demo = next year wrc lic

12 June 12, 00:35	#9
jmmontoro Join Date: Jun 2011	It's still to early to judge WRC3, but from what they've announced so far it looks like a definitive improvement from last years game. Codemasters doesn't need a license to make a rally game, and the only thing they've done with rally in Dirt are very few and very short stages. I doubt they'll release an yearly game if they buy the license, they would mix Dirt with the licensed stuff and that's it mostly. If I'm not mistaken the license covers the use of the WRC brand, the teams and their drivers, other games can approach the teams for their brands, but not their drivers. The rallies and stages are free to be used by anyone, you can't license geography, if no new game has proper stages is not because of lack of licensing, but Milestone should definitely stop reusing sectors.

12 June 12, 00:51	#10
Kazumi Join Date: Jan 2008	They can keep the old stages. Game with 60 stages sells better then one with 10. That's no issue IMHO but there must be of course some really good stages. And if 10 km is too long for some then make it 2 seperate stages so you get 3 stages in the end (+ reverse it's even 6!) . If things are good they can be reused.

12 June 12, 18:20	#11
jmmontoro Join Date: Jun 2011	WRC 3 - Teaser trailer Remember that requesting hard core features makes the game very difficult to sell. People keep wishing that Codemasters buys the license, and don't understand that they don't need the license, they're just not interested in a rally game, they have more than they need with Dirt. They will only disappoint us more. Dynamic weather is ridiculous, even with real life length stages. They should make different weather for the same stages and randomize them, dry, wet, raining/snowing. The moderators could change the title of the forum, WRC 2010? Milestone WRC series would be more appropriate.

12 June 12, 18:40	#12
Kazumi Join Date: Jan 2008	That's right I'd focus on things that attract all audiences. Like as I said long stages but with also short layouts available. In terms of physics, if it would be full sim, add ABS optionally (would have helped RBR newbies, as braking is really hard to master) But they already made the championship advance with more stages per event optionally. That's a good idea. I'd even do a Sega Rally like mode with 5 stages through all countries. Yes, changing weather for 10 minute long stages is, I dunno. You can't spend resources on everything! Although even a precalculated weather on a stage from light rain to sunny would be awesome... So I agree still... the basics for "Hardcore" should also be there.

12 June 12, 22:09	#14
jmmontoro Join Date: Jun 2011	I was aiming at the stages, that they could've done more with the stages without the need of a license. Codemasters rally stages are 1m-2m long, and there are maybe 10 different. Is that what people want but with all liveries and names?

12 June 12, 23:10	#15
Kazumi Join Date: Jan 2008	On the other things in Rally world currently there's gRally http://grally.net/ Interview with one of the gRally team from december 2011 http://issuu.com/autosimsportmediall...sport_vol6num1 (Page 44) and RallySim http://rallysim.net/ Both are still in very early stages but there are few pics and videos showing progress. We will see But I think in case of WRC 3 they just have to decide very early what they can put into the game with yearly releases. At least their stages aren't just 1 m long!

13 June 12, 08:39	#16
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	Amazing Improvement done for WRC3, from what seen on teaser trailer! New particles, new lightings, redone/refreshed special stages... Looking forward to this release!

14 June 12, 16:32	#18
TommiTAG Uploader Join Date: Apr 2010 Age: 48	Thanks for the information, everyone. I also agree with all points commented above. One disappointing thing about recent Milestone's titles is they don't seem to make effective use of their developed technologies. For example, Milestone developed "Evolving Track System" for "SBK X" first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_WVvhSRmyQ But they didn't use this technology in WRC series. The same about "Rewind System" of "WRC 2". They didn't use it in "SBK Generations". "Evolving Track System" seems to have a potential to be a great feature for WRC series to make each SS more replayable. And also, Milestone developed several nice techs for "MUD FIM Motocross World Championship" too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=R-y3ogJhze8 I hope they will use these techs effectively for "WRC 3" and make the title better

16 June 12, 11:43	#19
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	Vote and send your message to the developers http://www.yourfreepoll.com/ltjprpvfsr.html

22 June 12, 15:58	#20
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	http://www.wrcthegame.com/ REAL SOUNDS: the new engine allows a different management of in game sounds and effects. All the cars have been live recorded also with on board microphones to catch all the real effects heard by the drivers. For each country (EFIGS) a professional actor have been appointed to perform peace notes given by a real co-driver to guarantee a real on board environment to the player! VW Polo R WRC officially confirmed!!! Brand new routes for 7 Rallyes !!!

24 June 12, 10:56	#21
TommiTAG Uploader Join Date: Apr 2010 Age: 48	Thanks for all the information, Luke. Not "Brand new routes for 13 Rallyes" though , it sounds really promising

27 June 12, 12:19	#22
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	New Interview! Doesn't add much to those already know...Maybe a couple more words about the refreshed career mode, which probably differ from the previous ones.

5 July 12, 06:47	#26
Canuck59NHL Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Villeneuve d'Ascq,Nord,France Age: 33	Hi all, Here a new video in French: http://www.jeuxactu.com/wrc-3-jeuxac...2012-81685.htm

5 July 12, 08:19	#27
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	Looking awesome Canuck!!! Great find!

7 July 12, 08:22	#28
TommiTAG Uploader Join Date: Apr 2010 Age: 48	Nice finding, Canuck ! Both physics and tracks look very good

7 July 12, 13:48	#29
sirafe Join Date: Jun 2008	Excelente video Canuck!

10 July 12, 07:58	#30
Hezemans Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 59	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLBF9...layer_embedded Full stage video.

10 July 12, 10:25	#32
Hezemans Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 59	Argggggggggggg VirtualR!

21 July 12, 09:46	#33
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	Official release date:

23 July 12, 20:48	#34
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	WRC3 cover packs revealed! http://www.teamvvv.com/en/news/comme...shots-revealed

24 July 12, 09:10	#35
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	New footage from the presentation during the Acropolis rally 2012: You can clearly hear the new blow-off valve sound @ 0:51 Also the article reports, cars get damages, when driving off road! That will give an end to cheating I guess... (In Greek) http://www.enternity.gr/Article/WRC-...42.html?page=1

24 July 12, 09:53	#36
DantePLL Uploader Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Poland Age: 27	Oh no. I was really hoping Milestone will provide a real simulator this time, or at least bring more simulation that former games. Looking at the video I have to say that Richard Burns Rally will probably remain the king of rally sims for a long long time. I hope that all the new content will prove good enough.

25 July 12, 09:40	#37
Luke Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greece	Amazing Improvement In this new In game video!!!

25 July 12, 13:23	#38
JayS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Germany	I completely agree with you, Luke! Finally it looks like a rallye game. Hope also for more improved stages like this.

25 July 12, 21:06	#39
SukIS04 Join Date: Dec 2009	Yeah but only view behind car makes me car sic :p some behind WHEEL view etc also please ! And some from dev wheel and control (if theres a clutch, lights switch ) config etc plz..

25 July 12, 21:41	#40
jmmontoro Join Date: Jun 2011	Behind view lets them show off graphics and physics better. It looks great, really exited.