VLM Le Mans 1991-1996 – Released

KittX · 13 June 12, 22:43

It's a huge celebration, this pre-LM Week.
A lot of model cars are on sale, and VLM have made surprise for us too.

Mirror 1: https://rapidshare.com/files/3434001...96_rFactor.exe

Mirror 2: http://www.gamefront.com/files/21842...96_rFactor.exe

alex291190 · 13 June 12, 23:20

Yep, Thank You!

davehenrie · 14 June 12, 04:52

Yep, Thank You!

+1

hymera003 · 14 June 12, 07:35

Thank you!

qayx · 14 June 12, 09:23

WHAAAAAAAAAAT :OOOOO ONLY FOR RFACTOR ?

(((( That the track are released are very good !
But not for GTR2 ?! Thats very very very very very.....bad
sorry

LittleZippyUK · 14 June 12, 09:27

Great track. Had a race here earlier but I'm too slow, not familar with braking points and didn't do any setup work

Verde_msk · 14 June 12, 12:05

Very interesting how many time vlm team will need to release gtr2 version

pau pau · 14 June 12, 12:21

Thank you

alex291190 · 14 June 12, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by qayx

WHAAAAAAAAAAT :OOOOO ONLY FOR RFACTOR ?

(((( That the track are released are very good !
But not for GTR2 ?! Thats very very very very very.....bad
sorry

Their choice, its awesome in rFactor though. Its not in any way 'very very very very very.....bad' ... Its actually incredibly good

LittleZippyUK · 14 June 12, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex291190

Their choice, its awesome in rFactor though. Its not in any way 'very very very very very.....bad' ... Its actually incredibly good

Don't you mean very very very very very.....good?

alex291190 · 14 June 12, 14:30

Yes. Exactly that!

Chico Landi · 14 June 12, 14:52

Let's

JIMP · 14 June 12, 14:57

Thanks a bunch!! and then some

xanaxkamikaze · 14 June 12, 15:25

it's alive.... It's Alive.... IT'S ALIVE!!!!

PAOLO SPOTTI · 14 June 12, 16:50

This track is amazing. Great work. Many thanks

jostheboss · 14 June 12, 20:19

Thanks VLM for this great work.
It drives and looks fantastic. (what a great day for simracing.)

A beer for you all. skoll.

Dan_ferguson · 14 June 12, 20:34

Fabulous work!! Looks great and runs really smooth on my elderly machine.

That 1st chicane is really tricky having spent years driving Frank55 2004 version.

jostheboss · 14 June 12, 20:46

Frank55 R.I.P. The good old days, you are right Dan.

alex291190 · 14 June 12, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by xanaxkamikaze

it's alive.... It's Alive.... IT'S ALIVE!!!!

Hoshi · 15 June 12, 06:33

Thanks a lot Virtua_LM! This is quality work as always

axel linther · 15 June 12, 17:42

Fantastic piece of art, as all VLM tracks!!!

Thousand Thanks!

David Paterson · 16 June 12, 12:06

Is there an '80s version anywhere?

dragob · 16 June 12, 12:38

LM79-85 by Virtua LM is quite the same I guess.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_de_la_Sarthe

Nectaria · 18 June 12, 13:54

Am I the only one who's not really impressed all that much for 5 years of work? The screenshots they posted in 2008 and 2009 were much more detailed then the actual track they released ... and so many features are complete take-overs from their 80's track which are not featured in the real life 90's LM in real life.

I'm dissapointed, their Sebring, 80's LM and Fuji are way better then this...and took much less time to complete.

mrpowcz · 18 June 12, 14:01

We don't know how long it took to complete. They started to work on it 5 years ago, yet could work for 1 month on it.
I agree its the weakest VLM track, but still far better than most rf tracks.

racerm · 18 June 12, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nectaria

Am I the only one who's not really impressed all that much for 5 years of work? The screenshots they posted in 2008 and 2009 were much more detailed then the actual track they released ... and so many features are complete take-overs from their 80's track which are not featured in the real life 90's LM in real life.

I'm dissapointed, their Sebring, 80's LM and Fuji are way better then this...and took much less time to complete.

I must agree, even though I have not always seen eye to eye with that group, I cannot argue about the quality of their track until now. There are no crowd or announcer sounds, no pit tents during race, the paddock is completely empty, The Bugatti circuit is not complete or included, no ferris wheel, no real track adverts. Five years and this does not look like it took such.

Nectaria · 18 June 12, 15:24

Well I never really thought the bugatti circuit would be included, but indeed the lack of the ferris wheel and the ads (didn't even noticed that yet) is big, knowing it comes from VLM. If it was anyone else who is just learning how to create a track it wouldn't matter. Texture detail is pristine though.

Imo, the first group that worked on this went into trouble with the others of the team, stopped it, made sure nobody could use his/her work, so the next group had to finish it using a lot of recycled stuff from 1979/85, but without the usual quality that we tend to expect from VLM.
Sadly too many people were so anxiously waiting that they don't care about or see all the flaws and mistakes.

M1GHTY M4VS · 18 June 12, 15:47

They stated that they needed picture reference of the years but barely could fill the gaps, as for the ferris wheel I didn't notice it at all. The surface is the biggest difference, looks like they screwed it somehow with the reflection or something, would be lighter than the 80s version but for most it's overbrightened and not as good as what they did on modern sebring. Dunno why they didn't make a classic sebring as of now altogether. I think they're just fine to drop whatever they feel now for holding on it for such a long time. Hopefully all the videos about the Group C around 83 pays of and we'll be seeing it atleast in parts. What they showed looked exceptionally overwhelming. I feel lucky I never had that much attention for GTX5 now. DRM outclassified it for now, if it wouldn't only be germany. There's so much plenty of Space, IMSA, JSPC, LM, WSC of the time.

Alex1911 · 18 June 12, 18:43

looks like a small bug with the tires barrier at chicane (the slow doule ones after the long staright)

they aren't solid

Vince Klortho · 19 June 12, 05:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nectaria

Imo, the first group that worked on this went into trouble with the others of the team, stopped it, made sure nobody could use his/her work, so the next group had to finish it using a lot of recycled stuff from 1979/85, but without the usual quality that we tend to expect from VLM.

Nowhere near the truth. Total fiction.

tiptop · 19 June 12, 06:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nectaria

Sadly too many people were so anxiously waiting that they don't care about or see all the flaws and mistakes.

Are you a screenshooter? Because only someone who makes screenshots has the time to look at the details so deeply. When i drove the DRM Celica there i didn't have any time to do that.

mrpowcz · 19 June 12, 06:23

Uh, but again guys:

We do not know how long they worked on it.

Just because they started 5 years ago means absolutely nothing. Thats the problem with stopping development, people will always assume the modders worked on it every single day, omg.

Nectaria · 19 June 12, 06:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiptop

Are you a screenshooter? Because only someone who makes screenshots has the time to look at the details so deeply. When i drove the DRM Celica there i didn't have any time to do that.

No, but I know the place by heart and my work involves french roadsigns, so I don't have to stop to look.

Besides what does it matter, this track isn't up to the standard VLM made for itself and the earlier screenshots they posted were much better then the final track.

@Vince; I didn't say it was the truth, just my thoughts, good to know it's fiction, but it doesn't explain why the screens from 2008/9 looked better. And the fact nothing of news came out in 2010 and 2011 either while you could launch perfect looking tracks like Sebring and Fuji doesn't help either.

If this was anyone else then VLM making a track it would be superb, but because it's VLM their reputation is so skyhigh I can't but feel dissapointed.

racerm · 19 June 12, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiptop

Are you a screenshooter? Because only someone who makes screenshots has the time to look at the details so deeply. When i drove the DRM Celica there i didn't have any time to do that.

You don't have to be. I review video of tracks on you tube, especially on board tape all the time of tracks. This is especially useful when adding adverts. I don't understand why this was not done for this track.

you may think that its not important but when a track has crowd, announcer sounds, signs on the track and even weeds in the right place, even at 175 miles an hour ( and you don't drive top speed on all tracks all the time) it adds ambiance, that's why I add them. I guess I will be doing that for this track. Necteria is right, the screenshots from years ago were far more detailed.

axel linther · 19 June 12, 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerm

You don't have to be. I review video of tracks on you tube, especially on board tape all the time of tracks. This is especially useful when adding adverts. I don't understand why this was not done for this track.

you may think that its not important but when a track has crowd, announcer sounds, signs on the track and even weeds in the right place, even at 175 miles an hour ( and you don't drive top speed on all tracks all the time) it adds ambiance, that's why I add them. I guess I will be doing that for this track. Necteria is right, the screenshots from years ago were far more detailed.

Ermmm ... don't throw stones, please. I remember you made a version of Le Mans with hills on the horizon.
(so much about youtube videos)

racerm · 19 June 12, 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by axel linther

Ermmm ... don't throw stones, please. I remember you made a version of Le Mans with hills on the horizon.
(so much about youtube videos)

LOL!!!!!!!!!! I was altering the track for someone else it came that way, it doesn't count and btw if you look at this track they have hills in the horizon too!

Vince Klortho · 20 June 12, 03:29

These certainly look like hills to me and I am willing to bet they were there between 1991 and 1996 also.

axel linther · 20 June 12, 18:19

Okay... i'd bet my left ellbow that you can't see the horizon from the drivers view

...

Robin · 21 June 12, 22:43

Hi! Love this track as it was like this variant when I visited in 1995.

However, I'm having a problem with the sky flickering. I've tried all option and cannot stop it. This is the only circuit it occurs on.

Any ideas?

yetisaj · 21 June 12, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by axel linther

Okay... i'd bet my left ellbow that you can't see the horizon from the drivers view

...

You cant see much at all of the horizon in real life. Only from some parts of the track such as the Dunlop Bridge, Porsche Curves and looking down the Mulsanne straight from Tertre Rouge. The rest of the time the horzon is obscured by trees.
The horizon in VLMs version could do with lowering a bit but its not rediculously high.

dale223223 · 8 July 12, 20:31

You can use this flicker hack for long tracks. Works well for this one.

---FLICKERING FIX (for shadows and misc objects/decals/ etc.)- SAME AS TARGA FLORIO---

in .SCN - ClipPlanes=(0.50, 10000000.0)

In vehicle .CAM file - ClipPlanes=(0.100000, 500.000000) OR ClipPlanes=(0.300000, 500.000000) (to prevent shadow flickering/disappearing in some instances)

For instance, it works on the notoriously flickering Simbin Nordschleife.

Also you can use ClipPlanes=(0.50, 10000000.0) in the track cam file and the undershadows won't flicker in replays as tested on the Simbin Nordschleife.

This also works for that awesome Cannonball Run desert track.

13 June 12, 22:43	#1
KittX Baddie Join Date: May 2003 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Age: 25	VLM Le Mans 1991-1996 – Released It's a huge celebration, this pre-LM Week. A lot of model cars are on sale, and VLM have made surprise for us too. Mirror 1: https://rapidshare.com/files/3434001...96_rFactor.exe Mirror 2: http://www.gamefront.com/files/21842...96_rFactor.exe

18 June 12, 18:43	#29
Alex1911 Join Date: Oct 2009	looks like a small bug with the tires barrier at chicane (the slow doule ones after the long staright) they aren't solid Last edited by Alex1911; 18 June 12 at 18:55.

8 July 12, 20:31	#41
dale223223 Join Date: Jan 2010	flickering You can use this flicker hack for long tracks. Works well for this one. ---FLICKERING FIX (for shadows and misc objects/decals/ etc.)- SAME AS TARGA FLORIO--- in .SCN - ClipPlanes=(0.50, 10000000.0) In vehicle .CAM file - ClipPlanes=(0.100000, 500.000000) OR ClipPlanes=(0.300000, 500.000000) (to prevent shadow flickering/disappearing in some instances) For instance, it works on the notoriously flickering Simbin Nordschleife. Also you can use ClipPlanes=(0.50, 10000000.0) in the track cam file and the undershadows won't flicker in replays as tested on the Simbin Nordschleife. This also works for that awesome Cannonball Run desert track. Last edited by dale223223; 8 July 12 at 20:43.

13 June 12, 23:20	#2
alex291190 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Scotland, Irvine (Near-ish glasgow) Age: 22	Yep, Thank You!

14 June 12, 04:52	#3
davehenrie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Post Falls Idaho, in a house so new Google can't find it.	Yep, Thank You! +1

14 June 12, 07:35	#4
hymera003 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arad, Romania	Thank you!

14 June 12, 09:23	#5
qayx Join Date: Aug 2009	WHAAAAAAAAAAT :OOOOO ONLY FOR RFACTOR ? (((( That the track are released are very good ! But not for GTR2 ?! Thats very very very very very.....bad sorry

14 June 12, 09:27	#6
LittleZippyUK Uploader Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Age: 19	Great track. Had a race here earlier but I'm too slow, not familar with braking points and didn't do any setup work

14 June 12, 12:05	#7
Verde_msk Verde Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Totalitarian Putler's Russia... Age: 22	Very interesting how many time vlm team will need to release gtr2 version

14 June 12, 12:21	#8
pau pau Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: terra scilicet septem castrorum	Thank you

14 June 12, 14:30	#11
alex291190 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Scotland, Irvine (Near-ish glasgow) Age: 22	Yes. Exactly that!

14 June 12, 14:52	#12
Chico Landi Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Age: 42	Let's

14 June 12, 14:57	#13
JIMP Join Date: Feb 2007	Thanks a bunch!! and then some

14 June 12, 15:25	#14
xanaxkamikaze Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Atlantis	it's alive.... It's Alive.... IT'S ALIVE!!!!

14 June 12, 16:50	#15
PAOLO SPOTTI Join Date: Jul 2008	This track is amazing. Great work. Many thanks

14 June 12, 20:19	#16
jostheboss Uploader Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Betuwe, Holland Age: 38	Thanks VLM for this great work. It drives and looks fantastic. (what a great day for simracing.) A beer for you all. skoll.

14 June 12, 20:34	#17
Dan_ferguson Join Date: Jun 2007	Fabulous work!! Looks great and runs really smooth on my elderly machine. That 1st chicane is really tricky having spent years driving Frank55 2004 version.

14 June 12, 20:46	#18
jostheboss Uploader Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Betuwe, Holland Age: 38	Frank55 R.I.P. The good old days, you are right Dan.

15 June 12, 06:33	#20
Hoshi Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany	Thanks a lot Virtua_LM! This is quality work as always

15 June 12, 17:42	#21
axel linther Join Date: Feb 2007	Fantastic piece of art, as all VLM tracks!!! Thousand Thanks!

16 June 12, 12:06	#22
David Paterson Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Australia Age: 43	Is there an '80s version anywhere?

16 June 12, 12:38	#23
dragob Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bulgaria Age: 34	LM79-85 by Virtua LM is quite the same I guess. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_de_la_Sarthe

18 June 12, 13:54	#24
Nectaria Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belgium Age: 30	Am I the only one who's not really impressed all that much for 5 years of work? The screenshots they posted in 2008 and 2009 were much more detailed then the actual track they released ... and so many features are complete take-overs from their 80's track which are not featured in the real life 90's LM in real life. I'm dissapointed, their Sebring, 80's LM and Fuji are way better then this...and took much less time to complete.

18 June 12, 14:01	#25
mrpowcz Join Date: Feb 2010 Age: 23	We don't know how long it took to complete. They started to work on it 5 years ago, yet could work for 1 month on it. I agree its the weakest VLM track, but still far better than most rf tracks.

18 June 12, 15:24	#27
Nectaria Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belgium Age: 30	Well I never really thought the bugatti circuit would be included, but indeed the lack of the ferris wheel and the ads (didn't even noticed that yet) is big, knowing it comes from VLM. If it was anyone else who is just learning how to create a track it wouldn't matter. Texture detail is pristine though. Imo, the first group that worked on this went into trouble with the others of the team, stopped it, made sure nobody could use his/her work, so the next group had to finish it using a lot of recycled stuff from 1979/85, but without the usual quality that we tend to expect from VLM. Sadly too many people were so anxiously waiting that they don't care about or see all the flaws and mistakes.

18 June 12, 15:47	#28
M1GHTY M4VS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany	They stated that they needed picture reference of the years but barely could fill the gaps, as for the ferris wheel I didn't notice it at all. The surface is the biggest difference, looks like they screwed it somehow with the reflection or something, would be lighter than the 80s version but for most it's overbrightened and not as good as what they did on modern sebring. Dunno why they didn't make a classic sebring as of now altogether. I think they're just fine to drop whatever they feel now for holding on it for such a long time. Hopefully all the videos about the Group C around 83 pays of and we'll be seeing it atleast in parts. What they showed looked exceptionally overwhelming. I feel lucky I never had that much attention for GTX5 now. DRM outclassified it for now, if it wouldn't only be germany. There's so much plenty of Space, IMSA, JSPC, LM, WSC of the time.

19 June 12, 06:23	#32
mrpowcz Join Date: Feb 2010 Age: 23	Uh, but again guys: We do not know how long they worked on it. Just because they started 5 years ago means absolutely nothing. Thats the problem with stopping development, people will always assume the modders worked on it every single day, omg.

20 June 12, 03:29	#37
Vince Klortho Join Date: Oct 2007	These certainly look like hills to me and I am willing to bet they were there between 1991 and 1996 also.

20 June 12, 18:19	#38
axel linther Join Date: Feb 2007	Okay... i'd bet my left ellbow that you can't see the horizon from the drivers view ...

21 June 12, 22:43	#39
Robin Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Heart of England Age: 28	Hi! Love this track as it was like this variant when I visited in 1995. However, I'm having a problem with the sky flickering. I've tried all option and cannot stop it. This is the only circuit it occurs on. Any ideas?