British GP 2012

Paul_in_DC · 7 July 12, 20:58

Frickin rain! I hate it when conditions change so quickly that qualifying positions are due more to luck than driving.

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POS 	DRIVER 		ENTRANT 	TIME
1. 	Fernando Alonso 	Ferrari 		1:51.746
2. 	Mark Webber 		Red Bull-Renault 	1:51.793
3. 	Michael Schumacher 	Mercedes GP 		1:52.020
4. 	Sebastian Vettel 	Red Bull-Renault 	1:52.199
5. 	Felipe Massa 		Ferrari 		1:53.065
6. 	Kimi Raikkonen 		Lotus-Renault 		1:53.290
7. 	Pastor Maldonado 	Williams-Renault 	1:53.539
8. 	Lewis Hamilton 		McLaren-Mercedes 	1:53.543
9. 	Nico Hulkenberg 	Force India-Mercedes 	1:54.382
10. 	Romain Grosjean 	Lotus-Renault 		No Time

11. 	Paul di Resta 		Force India-Mercedes 	1:57.009
12. 	Kamui Kobayashi 	Sauber-Ferrari 		1:57.071
13. 	Nico Rosberg 		Mercedes GP 		1:57.108
14. 	Daniel Ricciardo 	Toro Rosso-Ferrari 	1:57.132
15. 	Bruno Senna 		Williams-Renault 	1:57.426
16. 	Jean-Eric Vergne 	Toro Rosso-Ferrari 	1:57.719
17. 	Sergio Perez 		Sauber-Ferrari 		1:57.895

18. 	Jenson Button 		McLaren-Mercedes 	1:48.044
19. 	Vitaly Petrov 		Caterham-Renault 	1:49.027
20. 	Heikki Kovalainen 	Caterham-Renault 	1:49.477
21. 	Timo Glock 		Marussia-Cosworth 	1:51.618
22. 	Pedro de la Rosa 	HRT-Cosworth 		1:52.742
23. 	Narain Karthikeyan 	HRT-Cosworth 		1:53.040
24. 	Charles Pic 		Marussia-Cosworth 	1:54.143

LeSunTzu · 7 July 12, 21:32

4th row with Maldonado and Hamilton, it smells T1 mayhem. McLaren failed to cash in big points when they had the opportunity and now they do not seem so competitive.

trotter2k · 7 July 12, 21:47

can't wait for the race now, it will turn out really sunny with it being the British weather

DurgeDriven · 7 July 12, 22:14

What a crap track when it rains.

hoboholic · 8 July 12, 01:13

I thought the rain made things really interesting. Can't wait for the race tonight, should be a good one.

moppenheimer · 8 July 12, 03:53

C'mon Michael and Fernando.

Nice to see Massa back among the living as of late too.

NitrousOxideUK · 8 July 12, 08:19

I wonder if there is a mixed setup range amongst the field (as in wet and dry setups), given how the meeting has been rather wet so far and it looks as if the race might start wet but then get dry?

Has the making of a very lottery based race, due to inconsistant weather conditions making tyre change timing critical, on top of the general setup that been chosen (those that have gambled on a wet, softer springs and higher downforce setup could be cruxified if the race is dry).

I'm not anti-Alonso, but given the lack of news headline, I'm presuming the possible contraversy of his final lap in Q2 under a yellow flag sector 3 just getting him into Q3 was deemed ok by the stewards?

Ecclesley · 8 July 12, 09:08

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Originally Posted by NitrousOxideUK

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I'm not anti-Alonso, but given the lack of news headline, I'm presuming the possible contraversy of his final lap in Q2 under a yellow flag sector 3 just getting him into Q3 was deemed ok by the stewards?

Fernando Alonso says he does not expect his British Grand Prix pole position to come under any threat over the end-of-Q2 yellow flag situation as he is confident he backed off sufficiently.

Alonso's jump into the top 10 came at a time when yellow flags were out at Vale after Romain Grosjean had spun his Lotus into the gravel, but the championship leader was adamant that his time gains had come elsewhere around the Silverstone circuit.
"I didn't set a green sector on that lap," Alonso said. "I backed off in the area they were taking the car away."

This is the Northamptonshire wheater/rain forecast of today.
Looks very "showery" to me.
That being the forcast I expect this race to be a lottery.

wpsracing78 · 8 July 12, 09:29

Sweet!

I'm well in the mood for some changeable weather!!

Kupiter Belt · 8 July 12, 10:05

Quali was harsh on Perez and Kobayashi, they'd have had a chance at a podium had the session been allowed to continue. If most people have set a lap and a session has to be red-flagged for any reason other than a major crash then the clock should keep running in my opinion.

hoboholic · 8 July 12, 10:10

Can't wait for the race, not long now

Kupiter Belt · 8 July 12, 11:28

What's the forecast for the race? I'm hoping for a wet/dry race, they're alway exciting in terms of strategy and drivers from further down the grid turning up in places they wouldn't usually.

Trebor901 · 8 July 12, 12:15

already into crap follow the leader, F1 really does prove the more speed and stupid wings you add to a sport the more boring it becomes

Copyright · 8 July 12, 12:32

MALDONADO!!! You are not making many friends in the F1 paddock!

Kupiter Belt · 8 July 12, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copyright

MALDONADO!!! You are not making many friends in the F1 paddock!

Totally, I was impressed with him when he won a race, but since then he's been truly awful in any overtaking situation

BonoVox05 · 8 July 12, 13:09

Zzzzzzzzzz

Copyright · 8 July 12, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonoVox05

Zzzzzzzzzz

Aye, stuff has happened but it's just that, 'stuff'. The finish looks close those for several positions though.

BonoVox05 · 8 July 12, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copyright

Aye, stuff has happened but it's just that, 'stuff'. The finish looks close those for several positions.

Resulted from the Tires, i'm not interested in!

NitrousOxideUK · 8 July 12, 13:39

It comes to something when a nonsensical battle for the lead between Alonso and Hamilton, when the Spaniard had already pitted, was the highlight of the race for me!

Maybe BBC messed up a little too, unless I fell asleep, they made very little of Webber gradually closing in on Alonso... It suddenly went from a 5 second lead to Webber being 0.5sec behind for seveeral laps.

hoboholic · 8 July 12, 14:06

Great race, especially the opening laps and the finish

Well done Webber showing you still have what it takes to win races, Monaco and Silverstone!!

You guys are being too harsh, this has been an amazing season and theres still the rest of the year to go

Copyright · 8 July 12, 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by NitrousOxideUK

Maybe BBC messed up a little too, unless I fell asleep, they made very little of Webber gradually closing in on Alonso... It suddenly went from a 5 second lead to Webber being 0.5sec behind for seveeral laps.

He did,
"Webber closed a four-second deficit in eight laps and Alonso was helpless to fend off the Red Bull as Webber passed him around the outside of the Brooklands corner"

YB0b · 8 July 12, 14:57

webber 2 classes better than lucklonso.

brabham67 · 8 July 12, 18:13

Way to go Weber!!

trotter2k · 8 July 12, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copyright

MALDONADO!!! You are not making many friends in the F1 paddock!

I want Rubens back and think Sir Frank hired the wrong driver, it should of being Rubens & Senna.

Well done to Webber.

frapp · 8 July 12, 18:51

lucklonso???

That's a joke right?

Remembering that that car started the year as a total P.O.S. No body is 2 classes better than Alonso.

And.. I say that as a total MS fan.

burnout01 · 8 July 12, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by trotter2k

I want Rubens back and think Sir Frank hired the wrong driver, it should of being Rubens & Senna.

Well done to Webber.

Agree 100% or even Sutil maybe.

I think Rubens would have been the better choice. Yes Pastor did win in Spain, but I think Rubens would have done that as well.

Ecclesley · 8 July 12, 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by frapp

lucklonso???

That's a joke right?

Remembering that that car started the year as a total P.O.S. No body is 2 classes better than Alonso.

And.. I say that as a total MS fan.

Never mind frapp, it is just the xxteenth display of Alonso hatred, be sure it will repeat itself time after time, like shouting in a bucket. As it often did/does with Schumacher, Hamilton and others.
Webber and Alonso are big friends and there is mutual sportsmanship and respect.

Apparently some cannot appreciate the sport and its fine drivers as such but feel the need to vent their hatred at every occasion. Very mature of course.
One for the ignore list.

By the way what is happening with McLaren, they are losing their way hand over fist.
It was not an exiting race but the top 3 drivers scored well, good job Webber always a result from him.
It seems Massa has done a lot of good to his status.
And I bet that Grosjean would have battled for the podium, if he was not so unlucky at the start, he had pace........

Raikku · 8 July 12, 21:32

100% Perez's fault.

kamikaze666 · 8 July 12, 21:40

100 % racing incident...

Totenkopf · 8 July 12, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by YB0b

webber 2 classes better than lucklonso.

You're the gratest comedian in all the Universe

Seriously, your statement should have been: "Hard tyres 2 classes better than soft".............

Paul_in_DC · 9 July 12, 00:02

GO WEBBER!

One of my favorite drivers! Congrats on keeping the pressure on. Excellent race, plenty of action going on up & down the line. I was afraid it was going to turn into another wet weather luck-fest.

And this was SO appropriate: Maldonado fined, reprimanded for Perez incident during the British GP

Quote:

Originally Posted by YB0b

webber 2 classes better than lucklonso.

frapp · 9 July 12, 01:15

Thanks Ecclesley - where do these sorts come from?

Love the shouting into a bucket.

FraPP!!!

Arsenius · 9 July 12, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Totenkopf

You're the gratest comedian in all the Universe

Seriously, your statement should have been: "Hard tyres 2 classes better than soft".............

yes, but the the mega-hyper-ultra-super-2-classes-better double champion, has made a wrong choice.

he losed.

the worse one got the thophy.

in F1 motorsport press and the public loss os lot of time trying to say who is "better". Sometimes the "better"(as if this was so much important) cant get a title for years.

saturday alonso and his ferrari was better
on Sunday, Webber and his red bull was better. simply that.

frapp · 9 July 12, 22:03

@ Arsenius

Maybe Alonso's race would have turned out differently if he had gone [H]-[S]-[H] or
[S]-[H]-[H], instead of [H]-[H]-[S]. It appeared as though Webber caught him because his tires were run out.

Honestly though, I really don't care who wins because I just love watching and hearing the cars. There is another thread "What bores you about motorsports?" What bores me about motorsports, especially F1, is all the people that post about how boring it is. Since I was a kid I have felt that only boring people get bored.

FraPP!!!

DurgeDriven · 9 July 12, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoboholic

I thought the rain made things really interesting. Can't wait for the race tonight, should be a good one.

Wet races are great Suzuka, Spa, Melbourne, even Hungary

But rainy Silverstone always makes F1 look like ducks out of water for mine.

Luck have it stayed away, WD Mark

YB0b · 10 July 12, 00:17

some just can't hide their frustration, when they can't marry lucklonso.

frapp · 10 July 12, 01:17

Watch yourself Troll

Viper · 10 July 12, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by YB0b

some just can't hide their frustration, when they can't marry lucklonso.

You're entitled to your opinion - I can stand your previous post in this thread even though I don't agree - but this one is just to get under people's skin.

I strongly advise against it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frapp

Watch yourself Troll

I'd prefer a report, this won't sprout a positive conversation.

Viper · 10 July 12, 10:20

With my moderator hat now aside:

I'm glad Webber won. Alonso seems like a great guy and is a great driver, but Webber deserves a few good results as well.

Might not happen, but even this Hamilton fan would like to see Webber win a championship for a change.

zud the spud · 10 July 12, 11:34

Guys, what is going on with Mclaren? Started the season with the best car out there by far, now they are 4th in the constructors championship and have only had one podium in the last 6 races. They were supposed to bring updates to Silverstone, but I guess either they didn't work or the wet Friday and Satuday meant they couldn't test them, but if the new updates they are bringing to Hockenheim next race don't work out then their championship is done, surely?

Mclaren are a giant of the sport but they have only won one drivers championship (and only just) in the last 12 years, are Mclaren the perpetual underachievers?

YB0b · 10 July 12, 12:06

The teams and/or drivers that climbed the podium and finished the race did a better integral job.
but lucklonso fanboys just can't admit that, because they hate red bull.

Ecclesley · 10 July 12, 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by zud the spud

Guys, what is going on with Mclaren? Started the season with the best car out there by far, now they are 4th in the constructors championship and have only had one podium in the last 6 races. They were supposed to bring updates to Silverstone, but I guess either they didn't work or the wet Friday and Satuday meant they couldn't test them, but if the new updates they are bringing to Hockenheim next race don't work out then their championship is done, surely?

Mclaren are a giant of the sport but they have only won one drivers championship (and only just) in the last 12 years, are Mclaren the perpetual underachievers?

I am amazed by the present form of McLaren. The pit incidents, the screwing up with the rules and the bad results.
Grandmother on a raft, where is Jenson.

Thinking about how bad Ferrari started this season, and a question mark hanging over RBR; but in comparison with McLaren they made very litle mistakes and points come rolling in. And with just a little more luck Renault will show McLaren some heels.........

I was expecting a wet race and Hamilton and even Button to shine but it is all going in the wrong direction.
Was the British GP an incident and will Hockenheim be much different, I am very curious.

And indeed, one championship in twelve years that sounds a little meagre doesn 't it....

@ Viper, yeah Webber the champ that would be a nice change.
Markus Webberianus is such a cool bloke...........

e30dtmdriver · 10 July 12, 12:24

Not a bad race this past weekend, I'm so sick of DRS though. We could have seen some even closer or longer battles but DRS just makes passing too easy. I say keep KERS and allow DRS to be used anywhere, that will separate the men from the boys.

On another note, I'm quite pleased with Webber's win, it would be AWESOME if he was able to win the title. I'm glad he's staying with RBR another year.

frapp · 10 July 12, 12:27

@ e30dtmdriver

Second that about the DRS - everybody, anywhere.

Copyright · 10 July 12, 13:37

Hmm wouldn't having both the car infront and behind both using DRS negate the effect? Just making the drivers focus on pushing their buttons faster than the others instead of driving.
Or just fully un-ban moveable aerodynamic devices and let the teams design a wing adjusting computer.
Another problem about having always available DRS is would that apply to the corners? Would there be a battle between two drivers going into a sweeper, neither wants to get off their DRS and lose speed resulting in a huge crash?

I can understand removing the KERS limitations since that is supposedly for developing new technologies and 'looking green' and limitations don't drive development.

e30dtmdriver · 10 July 12, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copyright

Another problem about having always available DRS is would that apply to the corners? Would there be a battle between two drivers going into a sweeper, neither wants to get off their DRS and lose speed resulting in a huge crash.

That's exactly my point. May the largest pair of balls win.

LeSunTzu · 10 July 12, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by zud the spud

Guys, what is going on with Mclaren? Started the season with the best car out there by far, now they are 4th in the constructors championship and have only had one podium in the last 6 races. They were supposed to bring updates to Silverstone, but I guess either they didn't work or the wet Friday and Satuday meant they couldn't test them, but if the new updates they are bringing to Hockenheim next race don't work out then their championship is done, surely?

Mclaren are a giant of the sport but they have only won one drivers championship (and only just) in the last 12 years, are Mclaren the perpetual underachievers?

McLaren had their up and down like all other teams. The tires are unforgiving with bad setups, so they make it look very ugly when things go slightly wrong. The difference between McLaren and Ferrari and Red Bull is that McLaren failed to grab points when they could due to a combination of mistakes and misfortunes. Without those, Hamilton would be ahead of Alonso. Do not forget they got a front row in qualification at almost all races.

The good news for them is that for once, they got all the points that they could with their car, with good pitstops and correct strategy (at last they fixed those).

The key test will be Hockenheim's qualifications. If Hamilton is on the front row again, then the Silvestone race will only be an accident.

Copyright · 10 July 12, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by e30dtmdriver

That's exactly my point. May the largest pair of balls win.

But they can already do this, Alonso and Webber at Eau Rouge being one example. Without having more gimmicky parts added to the cars and even more buttons and task for an already over-crowded steering wheel and driver.

I'm a young guy, so I've no objection to technology and improvements from the traditional but to me at least, DRS is pointless. It serves no purpose except as an overtaking aid which defeats the point of the 'best driver and car wins' ideal.

Paul_in_DC · 10 July 12, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copyright

Or just fully un-ban moveable aerodynamic devices and let the teams design a wing adjusting computer.

"Blue screen of death" would take on a whole new meaning.

Chronus · 10 July 12, 23:02

A software/firmware might just mean "death" when you need all the aerodynamics support you can get and the wing/aero device gets "stuck" in a position that does not provide it.

Not so far-fetched either. The past weekend, at Lime Rock, one of the LMPs went to pits and simply refused to restart. After 4 minutes or so with the mechanics scrambling to analyse the engine, transmission, etc, they decided for a Windows-solution: reboot the ECU.

It worked. Hmm...

7 July 12, 21:32	#2
LeSunTzu Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris	4th row with Maldonado and Hamilton, it smells T1 mayhem. McLaren failed to cash in big points when they had the opportunity and now they do not seem so competitive.

7 July 12, 21:47	#3
trotter2k Uploader Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: United Kingdom Age: 34	can't wait for the race now, it will turn out really sunny with it being the British weather

7 July 12, 22:14	#4
DurgeDriven Join Date: Jan 2011	What a crap track when it rains.

8 July 12, 01:13	#5
hoboholic Hobo strikes again! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Western Sydney, Australia	I thought the rain made things really interesting. Can't wait for the race tonight, should be a good one.

8 July 12, 03:53	#6
moppenheimer Join Date: Jul 2006	C'mon Michael and Fernando. Nice to see Massa back among the living as of late too.

8 July 12, 08:19	#7
NitrousOxideUK Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southampton Age: 39	I wonder if there is a mixed setup range amongst the field (as in wet and dry setups), given how the meeting has been rather wet so far and it looks as if the race might start wet but then get dry? Has the making of a very lottery based race, due to inconsistant weather conditions making tyre change timing critical, on top of the general setup that been chosen (those that have gambled on a wet, softer springs and higher downforce setup could be cruxified if the race is dry). I'm not anti-Alonso, but given the lack of news headline, I'm presuming the possible contraversy of his final lap in Q2 under a yellow flag sector 3 just getting him into Q3 was deemed ok by the stewards?

8 July 12, 09:29	#9
wpsracing78 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Adelaide, Australia Age: 23	Sweet! I'm well in the mood for some changeable weather!!

8 July 12, 10:05	#10
Kupiter Belt Uploader Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West Yorkshire, United Kingdom Age: 26	Quali was harsh on Perez and Kobayashi, they'd have had a chance at a podium had the session been allowed to continue. If most people have set a lap and a session has to be red-flagged for any reason other than a major crash then the clock should keep running in my opinion.

8 July 12, 10:10	#11
hoboholic Hobo strikes again! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Western Sydney, Australia	Can't wait for the race, not long now

8 July 12, 11:28	#12
Kupiter Belt Uploader Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West Yorkshire, United Kingdom Age: 26	What's the forecast for the race? I'm hoping for a wet/dry race, they're alway exciting in terms of strategy and drivers from further down the grid turning up in places they wouldn't usually.

8 July 12, 12:15	#13
Trebor901 Join Date: Nov 2006	already into crap follow the leader, F1 really does prove the more speed and stupid wings you add to a sport the more boring it becomes

8 July 12, 12:32	#14
Copyright Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Victoria	MALDONADO!!! You are not making many friends in the F1 paddock!

8 July 12, 13:09	#16
BonoVox05 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Germany Age: 31	Zzzzzzzzzz

8 July 12, 13:39	#19
NitrousOxideUK Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southampton Age: 39	It comes to something when a nonsensical battle for the lead between Alonso and Hamilton, when the Spaniard had already pitted, was the highlight of the race for me! Maybe BBC messed up a little too, unless I fell asleep, they made very little of Webber gradually closing in on Alonso... It suddenly went from a 5 second lead to Webber being 0.5sec behind for seveeral laps.

8 July 12, 14:06	#20
hoboholic Hobo strikes again! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Western Sydney, Australia	Great race, especially the opening laps and the finish Well done Webber showing you still have what it takes to win races, Monaco and Silverstone!! You guys are being too harsh, this has been an amazing season and theres still the rest of the year to go

8 July 12, 14:57	#22
YB0b Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: http://www.racedepartment.com/	webber 2 classes better than lucklonso.

8 July 12, 18:13	#23
brabham67 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, Washington, USA Age: 37	Way to go Weber!!

8 July 12, 18:51	#25
frapp Join Date: Nov 2006	lucklonso??? That's a joke right? Remembering that that car started the year as a total P.O.S. No body is 2 classes better than Alonso. And.. I say that as a total MS fan.

8 July 12, 21:32	#28
Raikku Donated Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Finland	100% Perez's fault.

8 July 12, 21:40	#29
kamikaze666 Join Date: Jul 2006	100 % racing incident...

9 July 12, 01:15	#32
frapp Join Date: Nov 2006	Thanks Ecclesley - where do these sorts come from? Love the shouting into a bucket. FraPP!!!

9 July 12, 22:03	#34
frapp Join Date: Nov 2006	@ Arsenius Maybe Alonso's race would have turned out differently if he had gone [H]-[S]-[H] or [S]-[H]-[H], instead of [H]-[H]-[S]. It appeared as though Webber caught him because his tires were run out. Honestly though, I really don't care who wins because I just love watching and hearing the cars. There is another thread "What bores you about motorsports?" What bores me about motorsports, especially F1, is all the people that post about how boring it is. Since I was a kid I have felt that only boring people get bored. FraPP!!!

10 July 12, 00:17	#36
YB0b Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: http://www.racedepartment.com/	some just can't hide their frustration, when they can't marry lucklonso.

10 July 12, 01:17	#37
frapp Join Date: Nov 2006	Watch yourself Troll

10 July 12, 10:20	#39
Viper Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Torhout, Flanders, The Great Kingdom of Belgium Age: 28	With my moderator hat now aside: I'm glad Webber won. Alonso seems like a great guy and is a great driver, but Webber deserves a few good results as well. Might not happen, but even this Hamilton fan would like to see Webber win a championship for a change.

10 July 12, 11:34	#40
zud the spud is breathing manually Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Preston, UK Hometown: Solihull, UK	Guys, what is going on with Mclaren? Started the season with the best car out there by far, now they are 4th in the constructors championship and have only had one podium in the last 6 races. They were supposed to bring updates to Silverstone, but I guess either they didn't work or the wet Friday and Satuday meant they couldn't test them, but if the new updates they are bringing to Hockenheim next race don't work out then their championship is done, surely? Mclaren are a giant of the sport but they have only won one drivers championship (and only just) in the last 12 years, are Mclaren the perpetual underachievers?

10 July 12, 12:06	#41
YB0b Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: http://www.racedepartment.com/	The teams and/or drivers that climbed the podium and finished the race did a better integral job. but lucklonso fanboys just can't admit that, because they hate red bull.

10 July 12, 12:24	#43
e30dtmdriver Join Date: Jan 2010	Not a bad race this past weekend, I'm so sick of DRS though. We could have seen some even closer or longer battles but DRS just makes passing too easy. I say keep KERS and allow DRS to be used anywhere, that will separate the men from the boys. On another note, I'm quite pleased with Webber's win, it would be AWESOME if he was able to win the title. I'm glad he's staying with RBR another year.

10 July 12, 12:27	#44
frapp Join Date: Nov 2006	@ e30dtmdriver Second that about the DRS - everybody, anywhere.

10 July 12, 13:37	#45
Copyright Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Victoria	Hmm wouldn't having both the car infront and behind both using DRS negate the effect? Just making the drivers focus on pushing their buttons faster than the others instead of driving. Or just fully un-ban moveable aerodynamic devices and let the teams design a wing adjusting computer. Another problem about having always available DRS is would that apply to the corners? Would there be a battle between two drivers going into a sweeper, neither wants to get off their DRS and lose speed resulting in a huge crash? I can understand removing the KERS limitations since that is supposedly for developing new technologies and 'looking green' and limitations don't drive development.