Assetto Corsa coming in 2012 - Page 2

zaril · 26 June 12, 21:00

No subscription confirmed!

joaoa13pt · 26 June 12, 21:14

"Can’t find your favourite car or track? With Assetto Corsa, you will be able to make it yourself!"

shinsou · 26 June 12, 21:33

This game, moreover simulation, will have a retail price, no additional costs! Well major content updates may come with a price.

KXracer · 27 June 12, 03:44

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Originally Posted by shinsou

Well major content updates may come with a price.

Source?

shinsou · 27 June 12, 08:10

facebook, twitter

KXracer · 29 June 12, 23:49

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Originally Posted by shinsou

facebook, twitter

Can you provide a link, please? I don't use FB or twitter

Aristotelis · 12 July 12, 13:49

I can confirm you that our plans is to have a fixed price. No subscription model or similar.
We also plan several DLCs, new features, constant updates.
Some of them will be free, some of them depending on their actual realization cost, might have a small fee.

Cheers

Krekeris · 15 July 12, 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aristotelis

I can confirm you that our plans is to have a fixed price. No subscription model or similar.
We also plan several DLCs, new features, constant updates.
Some of them will be free, some of them depending on their actual realization cost, might have a small fee.

Cheers

Guys will you have license for Porsche or Ruf?

shinsou · 16 July 12, 10:18

RUF is an insult for Porsche fanatics.

Crayfish · 18 July 12, 20:45

This may be a stupid question, but what physics engine is AC going to use? Are they using the ISI engine (perfectly fine with me), writing one from scratch or other?

huffad hemi · 19 July 12, 12:20

They have their own engine.

Krekeris · 19 July 12, 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinsou

RUF is an insult for Porsche fanatics.

No its not.

Crayfish · 20 July 12, 12:06

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Originally Posted by huffad hemi

They have their own engine.

Thanks. Im actually a little concerned about this, not because I doubt their talents at coding a good engine, but I just really love the feel of the ISI engine. I recently drove iracing for the first time, and I really don't like the way that it feels after the isi based engines.
This sim is doing everything right, and will probaly be the home of my fave mods in the future, i just really hope it feels like the ISI games of the past..

Copyright · 20 July 12, 13:18

Well there is a demo version of netKar, so you can try that to get a feel for what Assetto Corsa is likely to feel like.

Crayfish · 20 July 12, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copyright

Well there is a demo version of netKar, so you can try that to get a feel for what Assetto Corsa is likely to feel like.

Thats using the ISI engine still I think m8

maeckie · 20 July 12, 14:46

they have their own engine for netkarpro as well, but if you like the ISI-engine, you´ll like it !
i think its even a little better in the ffb-department, but try for yourself : )

Kazumi · 20 July 12, 15:29

NkP use their own engine, yes.

One needs always a bit time to adjust to a different engine. Same if you hop into a new car... need some time to get used to

iRacing is just iRacing. While it's the best package for online racing not everyone likes how it handles. Some people dislike it and still play it for that online experience.

I think the package here will be better then NkP. And if the physics as well then I wouldn't worry much

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Originally Posted by Copyright

Well there is a demo version of netKar, so you can try that to get a feel for what Assetto Corsa is likely to feel like.

The Demo features just one low downforce open-wheeler though. While NkP is good for that type of car not everyone like them...

LeSunTzu · 20 July 12, 16:07

Low downforce is an understatement.

It is nice anyway because it does not spin easily, so you can focus on your line. But I found it hard to make a buy decision after trying it.

If there is a demo for AC, I wish it will be with a higher performance car.

shinsou · 20 July 12, 17:17

Yes Kunos, give us a 911 GT3 RSR. There is no need to put Porsche on it in big letters.

Kazumi · 20 July 12, 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeSunTzu

Low downforce is an understatement.

It is nice anyway because it does not spin easily, so you can focus on your line. But I found it hard to make a buy decision after trying it.

If there is a demo for AC, I wish it will be with a higher performance car.

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- Yes

. I think 2 or 3 would be perfect and that's not almost half of the full game (sim) content this time

. Why not one open wheeler, one road car (maybe the BMW 1M) and one GT or other race car... Don't forget they also did some other free to play small sims on NkP platform, so after some time you kinda got 3 cars (Abarth and that Hillclimb car and track) to drive on NkP platform. But this time I think the demo should be more convincing from the start so it gets more popular.

Crayfish · 20 July 12, 18:16

Thanks for the heads up guys. How is the NKP FF compared to RealFeel? I know they used RF on their ISI based sims, hopefully they try to emulate it.

Ufobomber · 20 July 12, 18:25

I really hope this will have some pre-order beta or something alike. This is the only sim I'm interested atm.

Imen · 21 July 12, 01:57

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Originally Posted by Crayfish

Thanks for the heads up guys. How is the NKP FF compared to RealFeel? I know they used RF on their ISI based sims, hopefully they try to emulate it.

I think FF in netkar is in another level compared to any other sim out there. Just try it and see if you like it.

David Wright · 21 July 12, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Crayfish

Thanks for the heads up guys. How is the NKP FF compared to RealFeel? I know they used RF on their ISI based sims, hopefully they try to emulate it.

I think you are confusing developers. Kunos has never used the ISI engine. Are you thinking of Rieza Studios perhaps? They use realfeel and the rFactor (ISI) engine.

Crayfish · 21 July 12, 11:24

Ah, yes that is my mistake.

patlezinc · 21 July 12, 15:06

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Originally Posted by Imen

I think FF in netkar is in another level compared to any other sim out there. Just try it and see if you like it.

GSC FFB is really better than the NKP FFB for me. So you are right, try them

gears · 21 July 12, 15:16

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Originally Posted by patlezinc

GSC FFB is really better than the NKP FFB for me. So you are right, try them

And rF2 FFB is better than both

gears · 27 July 12, 15:05

New screenshot:

http://www.racedepartment.com/2012/0...nd-bmw-z4-gt3/

Kazumi · 27 July 12, 15:22

menos · 30 July 12, 06:37

Will AC have you racing a full field of Ai opponents or will it be similar to netKar Pro only multiplayer racing?

Will AC be developed for other platforms as well or will it be just PC based?
A Mac version would be great

The graphics so far look fantastic and the cars shown so far in preview still pictures are fantastic!
I am really looking forward to this new sim.

shinsou · 30 July 12, 06:58

ai - check
pc - check
mac - no idea
other platforms - no

Aristotelis · 30 July 12, 07:53

Shunsou thanks for the good reply

No mac version sorry, amongst other things the game uses directx 11 graphics tecnology that is not available on the mac and steering wheel manufacturers do not provide forcefeedback drivers for the mac, so no luck.

A good part of the sim though has been made on a mac, if that makes you feel better

menos · 30 July 12, 09:48

Thanks for the info - veeeery interesting

Can you already comment on the limitations of Ai opponents?
Will we be able to run massive fields of 30+ opponents or is a limitation to ~10 − 20 racers more realistic?

Is it planned, to have change of daytime during races (you guessed it, I am a big fan of endurance sports car racing)?

Is it planned, to have AC open for modding (tracks, cars, skins)?
Will transfer of tracks and cars from netKar Pro and the Ferrari simulator be possible?

… many, many questions

zaril · 30 July 12, 16:23

http://www.seloc.org/articles/guides...-developer-qa/

menos · 31 July 12, 03:47

Interesting info in that article zaril - thanks for posting!

zaril · 31 July 12, 07:04

http://www.simnewsdaily.com/assetto-...ment-interview

David Wright · 31 July 12, 08:21

Wow - loads of good stuff in that. Thanks for posting

mudpuppy · 31 July 12, 15:40

Yes! Thanks for the link above, zaril.

Borsch · 1 August 12, 13:53

Just really hope they do not pull any punches on physics - graphics do look good already. Cant wait!

shinsou · 15 August 12, 07:06

zaril · 15 August 12, 20:39

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_v8h...layer_embedded

gears · 16 August 12, 01:08

This quote from GamesCoM is not encouraging:

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When i finaly stept into the rig, and got to do a few laps with the BMW Z4 GT3 i did not know what to expect of the actual physics of the game.

It very soon became clear that this must be one of the best compromises between Sim and Fun i came across in a long time. The car behaves as you would expect, and you really feel connected to the track. Details like braking feel, oversteer and understeer seemed so natural. even after a few minutes in a noisy environment with a wheel and pedals i never used. I might ad i was pleasantly surprised by the Fanatec GT wheel used on the rig. Great wheel.

http://www.virtualr.net/assetto-cors...meplay-footage

I thought this was going to be a full sim?

Copyright · 16 August 12, 01:14

Well it sure looks like a full sim and he states that cars behave 'as you would expect' maybe it's just the authors choice of words?
Looking at the vid it seems pretty much full sim, complete with people failing to take corners

I suppose they had all the aids turned to full anyway

The mention of the cars feeling 'attached to the road' is good, I can't say I ever felt that in a GMotor game.

Kunos simulazioni have done a really nice job with netKar and Ferrari Virtual Academy, why would they stop now?

Kazumi · 16 August 12, 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copyright

Well it sure looks like a full sim and he states that cars behave 'as you would expect' maybe it's just the authors choice of words?

Compromise

2. Something that combines qualities or elements of different things: The incongruous design is a compromise between high tech and early American.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/compromise

zaril · 16 August 12, 19:13

In this case compromise = good phisics + arcadish features (like drift etc...)

gears · 16 August 12, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaril

In this case compromise = good phisics + arcadish features (like drift etc...)

Thank you for clearing that up

As long as the sim physics are there, I don't mind (some) arcade features

HoodbooH · 16 August 12, 19:26

Can't believe this hasn't been posted here.

shinsou · 16 August 12, 19:35

Theres no compromise, it seems to be a unfavorable choice of words:

"[...] It very soon became clear that this must be one of the best compromises between Sim and Fun i came across in a long time. [...]"

Later in a comment:

"It is a full SIM. With fun i mean it felt more solid, and polished, then say for instance rF2 in its current state."

source: http://www.bsimracing.com/2012/08/as.../#.UC1JJDz9s-k

Kazumi · 16 August 12, 19:52

People are twisting anything you say nowadays... As I posted it even makes sense in english. Best of 2 worlds (pure sim & serious fun) without compromising anything.

I don't like the drift mode either, as I prefer drift driving. I don't need points I just want to enjoy vehicle dynamics under control of steering, throttle and clutch input. If it delivers that, nothing wrong with a drift mode, from a pure sim point of view

shinsou · 16 August 12, 20:31

yup, one has to be careful these days

31 July 12, 15:40	#88
mudpuppy Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Virginia, USA	Yes! Thanks for the link above, zaril. Last edited by mudpuppy; 31 July 12 at 15:41. Reason: spelling

26 June 12, 21:00	#51
zaril Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Italy	No subscription confirmed!

26 June 12, 21:14	#52
joaoa13pt Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Portugal	"Can’t find your favourite car or track? With Assetto Corsa, you will be able to make it yourself!"

26 June 12, 21:33	#53
shinsou Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: GMT +2	This game, moreover simulation, will have a retail price, no additional costs! Well major content updates may come with a price.

27 June 12, 08:10	#55
shinsou Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: GMT +2	facebook, twitter

12 July 12, 13:49	#57
Aristotelis Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brescia, Italy Age: 40	I can confirm you that our plans is to have a fixed price. No subscription model or similar. We also plan several DLCs, new features, constant updates. Some of them will be free, some of them depending on their actual realization cost, might have a small fee. Cheers

16 July 12, 10:18	#59
shinsou Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: GMT +2	RUF is an insult for Porsche fanatics.

18 July 12, 20:45	#60
Crayfish Join Date: Sep 2011	This may be a stupid question, but what physics engine is AC going to use? Are they using the ISI engine (perfectly fine with me), writing one from scratch or other?

19 July 12, 12:20	#61
huffad hemi Join Date: May 2007 Location: Norvegr	They have their own engine.

20 July 12, 13:18	#64
Copyright Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Victoria	Well there is a demo version of netKar, so you can try that to get a feel for what Assetto Corsa is likely to feel like.

20 July 12, 14:46	#66
maeckie Uploader Join Date: May 2009 Location: Berlin,Germany Age: 38	they have their own engine for netkarpro as well, but if you like the ISI-engine, you´ll like it ! i think its even a little better in the ffb-department, but try for yourself : )

20 July 12, 16:07	#68
LeSunTzu Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris	Low downforce is an understatement. It is nice anyway because it does not spin easily, so you can focus on your line. But I found it hard to make a buy decision after trying it. If there is a demo for AC, I wish it will be with a higher performance car.

20 July 12, 17:17	#69
shinsou Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: GMT +2	Yes Kunos, give us a 911 GT3 RSR. There is no need to put Porsche on it in big letters.

20 July 12, 18:16	#71
Crayfish Join Date: Sep 2011	Thanks for the heads up guys. How is the NKP FF compared to RealFeel? I know they used RF on their ISI based sims, hopefully they try to emulate it.

20 July 12, 18:25	#72
Ufobomber Join Date: Apr 2010	I really hope this will have some pre-order beta or something alike. This is the only sim I'm interested atm.

21 July 12, 11:24	#75
Crayfish Join Date: Sep 2011	Ah, yes that is my mistake.

30 July 12, 06:37	#80
menos Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Shanghai	Will AC have you racing a full field of Ai opponents or will it be similar to netKar Pro only multiplayer racing? Will AC be developed for other platforms as well or will it be just PC based? A Mac version would be great The graphics so far look fantastic and the cars shown so far in preview still pictures are fantastic! I am really looking forward to this new sim.

30 July 12, 06:58	#81
shinsou Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: GMT +2	ai - check pc - check mac - no idea other platforms - no

30 July 12, 07:53	#82
Aristotelis Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brescia, Italy Age: 40	Shunsou thanks for the good reply No mac version sorry, amongst other things the game uses directx 11 graphics tecnology that is not available on the mac and steering wheel manufacturers do not provide forcefeedback drivers for the mac, so no luck. A good part of the sim though has been made on a mac, if that makes you feel better

30 July 12, 09:48	#83
menos Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Shanghai	Thanks for the info - veeeery interesting Can you already comment on the limitations of Ai opponents? Will we be able to run massive fields of 30+ opponents or is a limitation to ~10 − 20 racers more realistic? Is it planned, to have change of daytime during races (you guessed it, I am a big fan of endurance sports car racing)? Is it planned, to have AC open for modding (tracks, cars, skins)? Will transfer of tracks and cars from netKar Pro and the Ferrari simulator be possible? … many, many questions

30 July 12, 16:23	#84
zaril Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Italy	http://www.seloc.org/articles/guides...-developer-qa/

31 July 12, 03:47	#85
menos Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Shanghai	Interesting info in that article zaril - thanks for posting!

31 July 12, 07:04	#86
zaril Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Italy	http://www.simnewsdaily.com/assetto-...ment-interview

31 July 12, 08:21	#87
David Wright Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK	Wow - loads of good stuff in that. Thanks for posting

1 August 12, 13:53	#89
Borsch Join Date: Nov 2009	Just really hope they do not pull any punches on physics - graphics do look good already. Cant wait!

15 August 12, 07:06	#90
shinsou Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: GMT +2

15 August 12, 20:39	#91
zaril Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Italy	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_v8h...layer_embedded

16 August 12, 01:14	#93
Copyright Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Victoria	Well it sure looks like a full sim and he states that cars behave 'as you would expect' maybe it's just the authors choice of words? Looking at the vid it seems pretty much full sim, complete with people failing to take corners I suppose they had all the aids turned to full anyway The mention of the cars feeling 'attached to the road' is good, I can't say I ever felt that in a GMotor game. Kunos simulazioni have done a really nice job with netKar and Ferrari Virtual Academy, why would they stop now?

16 August 12, 19:13	#95
zaril Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Italy	In this case compromise = good phisics + arcadish features (like drift etc...)

16 August 12, 19:26	#97
HoodbooH Join Date: Sep 2009	Can't believe this hasn't been posted here.

16 August 12, 19:35	#98
shinsou Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: GMT +2	Theres no compromise, it seems to be a unfavorable choice of words: "[...] It very soon became clear that this must be one of the best compromises between Sim and Fun i came across in a long time. [...]" Later in a comment: "It is a full SIM. With fun i mean it felt more solid, and polished, then say for instance rF2 in its current state." source: http://www.bsimracing.com/2012/08/as.../#.UC1JJDz9s-k