New racingwheel

[BrunoB]

Thank you bgis for trying to help. But Im running the sensi at the lowest setting(180) because this pretty coarse setting is closest to my old Modena.
But eventhough I wont change this personal habit I know that this coarse setting worsens/exaggerate my overshoot problems.
But you know. A more than 10 years bad habit is close to impossible to get released from.

[Stigasawus]

G'day/night?, depending on which way up you stand(hemisphere)
Just stumbled on an ebay adv for one of these wheels NEW from a crowd called Gamesbite in the UK & wondered if the prices are about what the going rate is.
Comes up at GBP 102.16 + 9.99 postage = 112.15 GB which translates to AUS$ 156.49 + 15.30 = $171.79.
Obviously stuck with the postage damnit & the risk of it working correctly or a bit of crying. Make that a lot of bad words + crying.....Dilemmmmma
To pioneer or not to pioneer, that is the question.....Fredsim Shakespeare.

[BrunoB]

Before I bought mine in a normal netshop in Denmark I was tempted to import one from US/UK to the intro price of $119.99/Euro119.99 + postage.
But when I ended up buying it "at home" I was able to get it to about the same price but INCLUSIVE postage.
And for you down under this postage dif would probably be much larger in money.
By the way I have just seen the wheel advertised on Amazon to a lower price.

[BrunoB]

Got this info from a guy in the FSB racing league who have been in email contact with SRW.
"I just heard from the guys at SRW...they expect to have a desktop mount available by summer for the superwheel".

[misiek3510]

My DYI mount

Now it is way much better, hands are not tired at all.

http://ravi.nazwa.pl/997gt3/files/srws1/DSC_0057.JPG
http://ravi.nazwa.pl/997gt3/files/srws1/DSC_0058.JPG
http://ravi.nazwa.pl/997gt3/files/srws1/DSC_0059.JPG

[BrunoB]

Hey misiek
It looks interresting
Could you post a few more pics to show how you have created the screw compound between wheel and uhh photo gadget? (the part in this clip)
Appreciated.

[MarioPires]

Hi Bruno thanks for your great "manual".
Can I sugest you improve it with pictures of the SRW wheel open, to see how are the insides? Thanks.

[BrunoB]

I tried to get inside just to have a look And first part was very easy. A few "star"-screws on the backside.
But then the wheel wouldnt open because of the 3 dials on the frontside are resisting to be pulled off their axles.
And I dont dare to use much force. Soooo...

[MarioPires]

Yes, I understand you, forcing the material is not a good idea . I was hopping you have pictures only to see how is the centre hole/screw and what do the others 3 "potencial" holes to fix the a solution without glue. Thanks for sharing your work.

[BrunoB]

But this part is easy to answer.
The intention from the producer is only to use a central 4mm Screw/bolt to fasten the wheel.
Inside the wheel is a rather loose positioned nut with a 4mm thread/hole (loose positioned = not glued/embedded in the plastic material).
Your 3 "potencial" holes is not ment to be holes but 3 elevation points made to position a forthcomming mount. Excactly as I have tried to do with my alu plate which tries to simulate a kind of negative "cast" meeting the elevation points with 3 compleeting indentation points.

Latest is that I have got a question from Steelseries if Im interrested in exchanging some proposals/experiences about my wheel mount. Because as adverticed they are working on a mount themselves.

[MarioPires]

Thank you Bruno for further explanations. I will follow with great interest the development of this project and the modifications that improve including those you mention (Steelseries).

[Stigasawus]

G'day BrunoB, do you think Steelseries have been following this thread or have they got "interested" thru personal contact. Only asking because they may notice that there is interest in their product in the big wide world...ie AUSTRALIA.

Still interested, just a bit distracted by real car problems ($1000+ brake solution just stole time & money that could have been used on sim stuff !) Turning pads into white ash tends to get your full attention, couldnt figure out how to cook lunch on the vertical wheels, so I fixed the problem..now back to the sim world

[BrunoB]

Originally Posted by Stigasawus

G'day BrunoB, do you think Steelseries have been following this thread or have they got "interested" thru personal contact.

Both. And I got this verified because I have just got the wheel replaced by a complete new wheel because the throttle spring broke.
A quick replacement without any questions was initiated direct from US. So I had a chance to communicate directly with the guy responsible for the SRW-S1 project & and one of their engeneers.
Also exchanged ideas & possible improvements from my experience with mounting this wheel on a stable mount.

[BrunoB]

Close resemblance

[Stigasawus]

As of today there are 15 of these wheels on eBay so I dont feel as impatient now (none from Aus). They seem to be "arriving" on the sim scene & the pictures from various angles are helpful when thinking up ways to use one.
I wonder if One can be linked to the force feedback & other bits of say Logitech or similar..dont need pedal controls either...also means I'm being too lazy to build my own...just because it looks pretty.

[BrunoB]

Because its complicated to build your own FFB wheel from scratch I have been thinking according the same lines.
And because the SRW wheel just goes into one of your puters USB ports and dont need any driver then I would think its possible.
The only difficult part would be to dismantle the say Logitech wheel and insert the SRW instead. On the same mount/axle
But after that it should be piece of cake

You now have 2 "game controllers" on your puter.
And there are allready simple tools out there who let you combine 2 controllers to one.
You can select yourself which of the single controls goes to the combined wheel/Game controller.

[jostheboss]

Q? The rev lights are they working already for gtr2.

[MarioPires]

This can be interesting for a lot of people:
http://simulaje.blogspot.com.es/

[BrunoB]

Thank you for the link Mario
Pretty interresting. Specially if you own a G25/G27.
The price for the Black-lacquered Template looks OK. But the total price for the quick release + connector is a bit high(IMO).
Maybe the template could be used on its own as a base for a SRW-S1 DIY project

Originally Posted by Simulaje

- Template to laser cut aluminum and black lacquered. Includes screws to attach to the wheel, are replaced by the originals, these much shorter.
- Support for adaptation through Quick Release, designed by JZfilms.
- The system includes wiring harness and connectors to adapt to flying G25/G27, the adaptive system will be needed to introduce a USB cable through the inside of the axis of G25/27.

Prices:
- Black-lacquered Template (includes hardware) 20 € + shipping
- JZ-Quick Release .. (Full board, cables and connector G25/G27) 90 € + shipping
- Quick Release JZ .. Extra steering wheel (only parts that go into the ring to be exchanged) 55 € + postage

[MarioPires]

Yes Bruno, seems a good solution if you own a G27, who is not my case. Waiting for a solution to use my old porsche wheel fanatec .

[jostheboss]

The rev lights on the SRW wheel are they working for gtr2?

[yetisaj]

Originally Posted by jostheboss

The rev lights on the SRW wheel are they working for gtr2?

No unfortunately they don't work in GTR2 or rFactor. Well they dont work for me anyway.

[Tkrau]

I don't think that GTR2 supports LED readouts like that at all.

[jostheboss]

Hmm thanks for the info.

[BrunoB]

If the led readout dont work after installing/running this official Steelseries mini-application then its because the game dont support RPM lights.
At least thats how I understand it.

Originally Posted by steelseries.com-support

http://steelseries.com/support/downloads

Simraceway® S1 Steering Wheel

This mini-application adds support for RPM LED indication with games that support external RPM indication on racing wheels.
You do not need this application for use with Simraceway.
Install this application if you want your RPM lights to work with other games that support RPM lights (example: F1 2011®).

Win XP, Win Vista, Win 7
Region: INT. Version: 1.0. Released: 2011-11-28
http://cdn.steelseries.com/keyboards/srw-s1.exe

[misiek3510]

Shiftlights work also in rFactor. All you need to do is to copy plugins folder from Simraceway game to rFactor plugins. So far I had no luck to make them work in GTR2 or Race07.

[Sweet_Dane]

SimBin games don't support external RPM lights....

I have the SRW-S1 mounted directly onto my G25, and using it only as extension. All G25 paddle shifters, pedals and FFB working with this device.

A very good combo, I think.

[BrunoB]

This is looking pretty cool.
Is that part in the middle made of wood?
And are you using the central bolt as the fastening mechanism?

[BrunoB]

Originally Posted by MarioPires

This can be interesting for a lot of people:
http://simulaje.blogspot.com.es/

SRW-S1 Simulaje adaptor

What a joke.
I was trying to order one of the Simulaje SRW-S1 adapters the other day.
But it is impossible!

Because eventhough you are able to see some prices of the adapters on the "Simulaje" site: http://simulaje.blogspot.com.es/
...its impossible to get in contact with them!

I tried to mail them a question of how to pay for the adapter. But its impossible!
Because you have to use their multo Contacto formulado on the Página principal
And you can use the rest of your lifetime to try to spell the impossible "Captcha´s".
Its just impossible.

Probably the man behind all this, a Juan Zapata from some obscure JZfilms dont want you to get through an idiotic Captcha Is Incorrect Control.

Try yourself to get through. Just for a good laugh

Check out some of my screen dumps from this funny man.

[maeckie]

are there any shots of the inside of the wheel ?
to see what pots are used there and see how the mounting is supposed to work, etc.

is it based on an alloy frame or pure plastik ?

interesting thread btw !!

[BrunoB]

I opened the SRW wheel. But didnt take pics.

You are probably right that the br/thr use pots. But Im not 100% sure.
First I know the looks of pots (from building my own electronics).
But the 2 br/thr "sensors" dont look like normal pots.
As I recall there was 3 connections (like pots) but the 2 small br/thr "black boxes" could be some "magnetic" devices (like halls).
At least the resolution is higher than most higher ends potcontrolled wheels.

Conserning the wheelframe its made of pretty solid plastic.
But the central mounting nut is (as described above somewhere) made of steel.

[maeckie]

found pics of the pots,, they are the supercheap ones.

http://www.racedepartment.com/forum/...elcomed.46834/
they´re in post #9

the only problem i have with this, it will be hard-to-impossible to get replacements for them.
they look like the logitech ones, and i never found a place to shop those

[BrunoB]

Thanks for the link to the pot pics.
I didnt dismantle the wheel fully myself so I couldnt see the pots so clearly as on the pics.
After looking at the pots I have no worries about the quality(they looks OK) but are wondering about some kind of bearings for the br/thr paddles!
Conserning replacements for the pots it looks like a standard physical size. But if the values(resistance) is something special it could be a problem.

[Sweet_Dane]

I've torn mine appart a few times now




And yes the "adapter" is made of wood

[BrunoB]

Holy shit. Talking about completely dismanteling here.
When I strengtened the 2 br/thr springs myself I had only my wheel half opened. I didnt dare to take it completely apart.
Respect man

[bgis]

My wheel was treated very harshly and stopped working. it turns out that it was partly my fault. When I reassembled my wheel i must have put some tension on the ground wire to the sensitivity switch. The reason I,m writing this is to mention that my wheel was missing the hot glue on the green board making it very easy to break wires off. if you take your wheel apart be very carefully and check for the missing hot glue.

[BrunoB]

Have you succeded in repairing the sensitivity wire issue or is the sensitivity switch gone for good?
Dont want to sound like a smartass but such kind of problems was the reason I was very hessitant to try to dismantle my wheel fully.
The general problem is that most modern massproduced gadgets are not made to be taken apart - ever.
The producers want us to throw them away and buy a new one

[bgis]

Yes Bruno I was able to re-solder the wire back on and it works fine. You defiantly do have to be carefull opening cases these days. As far as I know just opening most devices voids the warranty. I found out something interesting after I soldered the wire. I searched for conductive glue and sure enough they make it. If I had of thought of that before hand things would have been much easier . At least I know it,s available now.

[Stigasawus]

Most mass produced gadgets are designed to be manufactured at a cost per unit that is way cheaper than the labour cost of repairing them...parts would cost peanuts if readily available (but often not so at RETAIL prices). So the items arent designed to come apart...but with devilish cunning & nothing to lose if they are out of warranty...have a go! I like to risk warranty anyway & pull items apart, just to find out what I'm dealing with & how not to shorten their life by doing things the instructions didnt bother with.

But I cant help myself anyway..curiosity..& maybe a way to build that better mouse trap. I havent bought one of these ao far but with this threads help I'm all set when I do.

[BrunoB]

Im a bit proud to announce that now I probably have the first SRW-S1 wheel with "pressure sensitive" brake.
How about that?
No Im not cheating. I have managed to create another small DIY project to change the brake control on the SRW from distance dependent to pressure dependent.

The reason was that when you are using your fingers to brake you are so extra dependent of the feeling of WHEN the brake effect starts that its allmost impossible to have a finer control because of the much shorter movement than on a pedal controlled brake.
Until now I had to use my ear to hear the scream from the tyres to know when i was braking too much! And then it was often way too late to save a skid.

I have to borrow a digital camera (again ) and take some pics. And then I will upload them. OK?

[BrunoB]

Sorry I just forgot that I had promissed to post some pics.
Maybe it looks a little goofy. But I can garantee you that its working absolutely stunning.
The right word in german is extremely fingerspitzgefühl

[bgis]

Nice idea Bruno, cheap.easy and works for you. Hard to not to like that!

[elbo]

I mounted this thing on my G27 and so far am quite happy with the results.
I use the brake paddle as a hand clutch on open wheelers and as a hand brake on tin tops...
LED works great on rfactor but not rfactor 2.
Anybody know of anyone who has recompiled the plugin to work with rf2?

[BrunoB]

Actually I have allways thought its a bit silly that Simraceway apparently dont seriously want to develope the small RPM lights driver(srw-s1.exe) to support other sims like iRacing, rFactor2 and GTR2.
The wheel would probably sell even better if people were certain that the wheels RPM light did support their sim.

[elbo]

I wrote them and they actually answered...


Randall B, Sep 18 13:24 (CDT):


As of right now we have no planned updates though that doesn't mean they wont ever happen! Our programmers are extremely busy right now getting our main software, the SteelSeries Engine ported to Mac OSX and it is totally consuming their time. When that launches I'm sure they will have time for other stuff, such as this.
Regards,
Randall B
SteelSeries

A little misguided if you ask me to try and get more sales by going to OSX instead of making it fully compatible with the games on the windows side but I guess they got their priorities...

[BrunoB]

Strange priorities yes.
Who is gaming on a Mac compared to the Windows environment?
This priority could be understanable if their priority was to port the engine to some kind of Apple mobile platform.
Because the "free flying" wheel fits pretty good to extreme mobility.
But porting it to Apples desktops sounds - strange

[Sweet_Dane]

GTR24h are doing things again
This is a working program for getting the shiftlight to work in GTR2.

Remember to like GTR24h for there effort.

http://www.gtr24h.dk/simraceway-srw-...ghts-for-gtr2/

[gtr24h]

Working on a new version...

[BrunoB]

Amazing job guys. Thank you. Maybe I should start GTR2 up again.
But how about creating a similiar little ap making it possible to get the RPM lights working for iRacing?
Because it looks like you know what you are doing.
And that would help a lot of people.

[elbo]

And rF2 as well...