Miami Park Loop Modern C

KellySummersUSA · 15 July 12, 00:41

Does anyone have a good car / setup for this track? That first turn is always the killer. Inevitably, I will get forced wide or out-handled by the AI.

bogdantw · 15 July 12, 05:16

With a bit of practice this race can be dealt with quite easily with a wide range of cars.
My favorites in C class are usually AWD models - both Mitsubishi EVO's and Subaru WRX STi.
But others work just as well if upgraded correctly

I've made a quick video with Evo X so you can see it in practice. Scroll to the end of the video to see the upgrades I've installed on it.
I did the race at a very leisurely pace, the car can go much quicker than this (2-3 sec faster per lap). Here it is:

A few tips for this event:
If you use manual transmission pay close attention to my shift points and braking zones.
In the first corner you need to go down all the way to 1st gear and cut close to the apex.
Install and use NOS if your car isn't accelerating quick enough off the line. You should be able to pass both AI cars without any trouble whatsoever from the start.
At the end of the first and second lap you need to brake very early for that first corner, as soon as you get on the crest of the small bump preceding it.

And as a general rule against AI defend your race line and get close to apexes in corners. Even if you're not particularly quick they'll stay out of your hair throughout the race.

Good luck!

Moorsman74 · 16 July 12, 17:32

Sympathies with this one - the AI does seem to be particularly keen in this race.
Early in career mode I did find this one of the trickiest circuits/races. Even now it's a struggle to shake the AI off when in almost all other races I can leave them in the dust.

I can agree with @bogdantw - the AWD cars seem to be more effective and some NOS is very useful to beat the AI to the first corner as well as boosting your speed down the straight.

Make sure you have your brakes adjusted to maximise your stopping power without locking up - even without NOS I find I can often sneak up the inside and out-brake a few AI cars. Just make sure you slow down sufficiently so you can turn tightly and stop any AI cutting in on the inside. I even cut over the pavement on the apex if necessary just to get ahead of the AI.

One subtlety to this circuit, you may or may not have noticed, is half the circuit is a lower friction surface - it looks and feels like it's perhaps a simulation of a concrete roadway.
The section starts on second corner after the hairpin - as you turn left and then head toward the section that goes around that globe/sphere thing. Your back on regular tarmac just after the 90-degree left-hander at the end of the straight after passing the globe thing.
This corner is where I find it most apparent - I was forever missing the apex and ploughing wide into the barriers on this corner exit - I still have to remind myself to brake early here (and possibly a little gentler to stop locking-up)

So generally its an aspect to keep in mind through that section - there's less grip so you have to be careful how much speed you try to carry into the corners around there.

I still find it tricky nailing that last section with crested-90-degree corner before the long home-straight - there's a lot of steering, braking and gear changing to get right in that bit all at the same time - especially when you have the AI breathing down your neck filling your mirror!
And as always on any circuit it's important to get nicely lined-up to maximise acceleration out of the last corner, and hence maximise the speed you carry down the long straight.

I've since managed to win the C-class race (Hard AI) with various cars: FWD Focus RS, RWD Lotus Exige S, 911 GT3, Ford GT500, Caterham R500.
The AWD's are easier though: Audi TT, S3, R8. Not tried the STi or Evo's yet.
I find the Nissan GT-R's particularly effective - I can get a 3-lap race time in the low 2:40's both in a C999 R34 (with NOS) and a C998 R35 (without NOS) without too much trouble.

Hope this helps

KKWL · 17 July 12, 17:33

For whatever reason in a stock S2U game the AI seems to dive bomb into that first corner. I think for that series I was using the Lotus Elise but I generally brake early and turn through the first corner w/o using much throttle.

Moorsman74 · 18 July 12, 08:02

Discovered another little quirk with this race...
I was seeing how different cars perform and racing with a C700-ish Focus RS I found I could actually pull out a comfortable distance from the following AI, unusually. I then upgraded it to the maximum C99# and then discovered the race against the AI was much tougher to beat once again.
As the game roughly matches the PI's of the competing cars, by maxing out the Class PI you introduce a whole bunch of harder cars to beat.
Seems like perhaps there's a sweet spot around the low 700's which keeps out the bigger/higher-PI BMW M3's, Nissan GT-R's, Jaguar XKR's and other such. Whatever the explanation, the race was just easier at this level in the Focus RS.

Just goes to show if all you want to do is win the Class races against the AI, maxing-out the PI isn't always the easiest way of doing it.

FreelancerMar · 19 July 12, 00:52

Maxing out the Pi will give you more of a challnge though.

The type of car you use will also make a difference.

15 July 12, 00:41	#1
KellySummersUSA Join Date: May 2012	Miami Park Loop Modern C Does anyone have a good car / setup for this track? That first turn is always the killer. Inevitably, I will get forced wide or out-handled by the AI.

15 July 12, 05:16	#2
bogdantw Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Romania	With a bit of practice this race can be dealt with quite easily with a wide range of cars. My favorites in C class are usually AWD models - both Mitsubishi EVO's and Subaru WRX STi. But others work just as well if upgraded correctly I've made a quick video with Evo X so you can see it in practice. Scroll to the end of the video to see the upgrades I've installed on it. I did the race at a very leisurely pace, the car can go much quicker than this (2-3 sec faster per lap). Here it is: A few tips for this event: If you use manual transmission pay close attention to my shift points and braking zones. In the first corner you need to go down all the way to 1st gear and cut close to the apex. Install and use NOS if your car isn't accelerating quick enough off the line. You should be able to pass both AI cars without any trouble whatsoever from the start. At the end of the first and second lap you need to brake very early for that first corner, as soon as you get on the crest of the small bump preceding it. And as a general rule against AI defend your race line and get close to apexes in corners. Even if you're not particularly quick they'll stay out of your hair throughout the race. Good luck! Last edited by bogdantw; 15 July 12 at 07:01.

16 July 12, 17:32	#3
Moorsman74 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Yorkshire, UK. Age: 38	Sympathies with this one - the AI does seem to be particularly keen in this race. Early in career mode I did find this one of the trickiest circuits/races. Even now it's a struggle to shake the AI off when in almost all other races I can leave them in the dust. I can agree with @bogdantw - the AWD cars seem to be more effective and some NOS is very useful to beat the AI to the first corner as well as boosting your speed down the straight. Make sure you have your brakes adjusted to maximise your stopping power without locking up - even without NOS I find I can often sneak up the inside and out-brake a few AI cars. Just make sure you slow down sufficiently so you can turn tightly and stop any AI cutting in on the inside. I even cut over the pavement on the apex if necessary just to get ahead of the AI. One subtlety to this circuit, you may or may not have noticed, is half the circuit is a lower friction surface - it looks and feels like it's perhaps a simulation of a concrete roadway. The section starts on second corner after the hairpin - as you turn left and then head toward the section that goes around that globe/sphere thing. Your back on regular tarmac just after the 90-degree left-hander at the end of the straight after passing the globe thing. This corner is where I find it most apparent - I was forever missing the apex and ploughing wide into the barriers on this corner exit - I still have to remind myself to brake early here (and possibly a little gentler to stop locking-up) So generally its an aspect to keep in mind through that section - there's less grip so you have to be careful how much speed you try to carry into the corners around there. I still find it tricky nailing that last section with crested-90-degree corner before the long home-straight - there's a lot of steering, braking and gear changing to get right in that bit all at the same time - especially when you have the AI breathing down your neck filling your mirror! And as always on any circuit it's important to get nicely lined-up to maximise acceleration out of the last corner, and hence maximise the speed you carry down the long straight. I've since managed to win the C-class race (Hard AI) with various cars: FWD Focus RS, RWD Lotus Exige S, 911 GT3, Ford GT500, Caterham R500. The AWD's are easier though: Audi TT, S3, R8. Not tried the STi or Evo's yet. I find the Nissan GT-R's particularly effective - I can get a 3-lap race time in the low 2:40's both in a C999 R34 (with NOS) and a C998 R35 (without NOS) without too much trouble. Hope this helps Last edited by Moorsman74; 16 July 12 at 19:29.

17 July 12, 17:33	#4
KKWL Join Date: Nov 2011	For whatever reason in a stock S2U game the AI seems to dive bomb into that first corner. I think for that series I was using the Lotus Elise but I generally brake early and turn through the first corner w/o using much throttle.

18 July 12, 08:02	#5
Moorsman74 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Yorkshire, UK. Age: 38	Discovered another little quirk with this race... I was seeing how different cars perform and racing with a C700-ish Focus RS I found I could actually pull out a comfortable distance from the following AI, unusually. I then upgraded it to the maximum C99# and then discovered the race against the AI was much tougher to beat once again. As the game roughly matches the PI's of the competing cars, by maxing out the Class PI you introduce a whole bunch of harder cars to beat. Seems like perhaps there's a sweet spot around the low 700's which keeps out the bigger/higher-PI BMW M3's, Nissan GT-R's, Jaguar XKR's and other such. Whatever the explanation, the race was just easier at this level in the Focus RS. Just goes to show if all you want to do is win the Class races against the AI, maxing-out the PI isn't always the easiest way of doing it.

19 July 12, 00:52	#6
FreelancerMar Join Date: Jan 2010	Maxing out the Pi will give you more of a challnge though. The type of car you use will also make a difference.