SNR Season 26 Race 10 - Sun 29th July - GTC65 subset @ Sachsenring

[cap7]

SNR Season 26 Race 10 - Sun 29th July - Austin Healey 3000 / Volvo P1800 / Alfa Jnr / Renault Alpine / Escort 1300GT

Track: Sachsenring V1.01



Cars: Austin Healey 3000 + Volvo P1800 + Alfa GTA Jnr + Escort 1300GT + Renault Alpine

Qualifying: 19:00 BST (18:00 GMT) (60 mins)
Race: 20:00 BST (19:00 GMT) (28 laps)

Password: Saxony

Please note: this track has no start lights, please use the countdown or HUD / Motec timer.


Thanks to Tantra for the track, Butch for the Volvo, Papag21 and the Brickyard Legends Team for the Alfa and Escort, and Gamers Crib for the server.

[JJC1]

Server's up

[maeckie]

this is the modern sachsenring i suppose ?

[cap7]

Originally Posted by maeckie

this is the modern sachsenring i suppose ?

Yep

[hayman3030]

hi

i tryed to get on server with escort no 42 and 52. message: not on server..........

greets hayman

[hayman3030]

Originally Posted by hayman3030

hi

i tryed to get on server with escort no 42 and 52. message: not on server..........

greets hayman

ok ok car was in wrong folder: has to be i TC65 !

[Snowcat]

Well that was another evening I could have better spent watching the Womans gymnastics...

A challenge for the resident Aliens :- Below is the settings file I've just used for 20+ laps of hell. DON'T CHANGE IT. Use it and let's see those 1:47's again.

Then, let's see if I can find out just what the hell I did wrong THIS time...

I come here every week to RACE. Not flounder around at the back, 2 and a half laps behind my nearest rival. If I wanted ritual humiliation, I'd take a slow drive around Leith with a bunch of £20's on the dashboard.

Suffice to say, I'm severly pissed off right now. It's become a worryingly common occurence.

[Malcolm Reynolds]

Hmm... quallied 4th then made a poor attempt at racing Too tired to concentrate properly atm. Some good battles with Fille, Lav and Wilb though

[JJC1]

WNR and SNR - Results and Replays

[JJC1]

Certainly demands concentration this track

[Geoffers]

Originally Posted by Snowcat

A challenge for the resident Aliens :- Below is the settings file I've just used for 20+ laps of hell. DON'T CHANGE IT. Use it and let's see those 1:47's again.

OK Snow, I gave it a try & just got into the 1.49s after about 8 laps. I think it is not a bad setup but it is easy to upset the car & get out of shape, especially over the kerbs. Try running the suspension softer so it soaks up bumps better & use less power diff (20 or 30%). I would also turn the brake bias a little more to the rear as it tends to lock the fronts & won't turn in with the brakes on.

I'll give it a better try tomorrow, if I have time, then do some adjustments & see if it makes it quicker. I'm not usually too quick with the Healey so Daz or Cap may be able to give you a better idea.

[cap7]

Originally Posted by Snowcat

A challenge for the resident Aliens :- Below is the settings file I've just used for 20+ laps of hell. DON'T CHANGE IT. Use it and let's see those 1:47's again.

Originally Posted by Geoffers

OK Snow, I gave it a try & just got into the 1.49s after about 8 laps. I think it is not a bad setup but it is easy to upset the car & get out of shape, especially over the kerbs. Try running the suspension softer so it soaks up bumps better & use less power diff (20 or 30%). I would also turn the brake bias a little more to the rear as it tends to lock the fronts & won't turn in with the brakes on.

+1 to everything Geoffers just said, especially the bit about how easy it is to get out of shape. When it does let go it is hard to get it under control again, but this might be down to the high steering lock you're using. You might be using a more lock in your wheel than me though, in which case it might not feel so bad to you. I'll try again tomorrow with reduced lock to see if this is why it feels so twitchy to me.

I did reduce the fuel load when I took it out for a spin though, because I was barely getting into the 47s in the race with full fuel, so I treated it as a quali run so I could compare it with my quali times in the Escort.

Anyway, after about 25 laps, once I stopped trying to drive it like an Escort, I finally managed to get it down to 1:47.4. It's worth noting that the best I could do with my normal Healey setup was 1:48.1, so go figure

I think the difference in times here could well be down to the twitchiness, it can be used to one's advantage to make the car change direction very quickly, but if it goes just a little bit out of line then it's into the gravel trap. I had this with other cars before, an "unstable" setup can lead to a quick laptime, but it's not worth risking that setup in the race as I've learnt to my cost before now. It's much better to go for stability in the race.

[Snowcat]

Well that pretty much confirms what I was afraid of. I can't blame the car or I'm a "bad workman".

The Healey was feeling really loose and skittery from the off. Steering was so vague and light I spent more than a little while checking connections on my wheel to make sure nothing had come loose. With Malcs help, I was able to get a little feel back into the car (hence the extreme camber etc) but I may as well have been driving Ken Blocks Fiesta...

Throttle = Spin
Brakes = Spin
Steering straight ahead = Spin
Blink = Spin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wMPo2TKelA

A few laps of that and the car has bald tyres and all 4 corners pebble dashed. Yeah, I probably should have changed to something I could actually handle but the whole point of subset racing is to have people driving a range of different cars. Why add yet another Escort?

Bottom line, I'm crap. I suppose I better try to sneak some more practice time into the family schedule.

[KDiesel]

Originally Posted by Snowcat

Throttle = Spin
Brakes = Spin
Steering straight ahead = Spin
Blink = Spin...

I have same probs with defaul set Volvo...

Kimi

[Geoffers]

Snowy, what wheel have you got & what settings are you using for it?

[Snowcat]

G27 running 900deg. FFB and everything else defaulted.

I'd run stronger ffb but that's what broke my desk a while ago!

[hayman3030]

what a great vid snowcat!
couldnt stop laughing.

greets hayman

[Geoffers]

Originally Posted by Snowcat

G27 running 900deg. FFB and everything else defaulted.

Mmm, I find that running that much lock means turning the wheel too much to make the car turn & also makes catching slides more difficult. I use around 450deg with steering lock in the car setup menu at 25-27deg, although I find 30deg+ works better in P&G.

When I have tried using 900deg, I found that it adds about 2s to a 2min lap. But I guess that what you get used to usually works best.

If you are losing the car under braking, it probably means you are locking the wheels. Try turning the braking power down a bit from 100% to about 90% in the car setup menu or reducing the braking sensitivity in the controls menu. You could also try reducing the throttle sensitivity too if you are struggling to keep the car straight when accelerating.

[Malcolm Reynolds]

Originally Posted by Snowcat

G27 running 900deg. FFB and everything else defaulted.

I'd run stronger ffb but that's what broke my desk a while ago!

Make sure you don't have any kind of return spring going on in the logitech profiler too - let the game FFB do that. 900 degs doesn't suit everyone I know - but I also have my steering sensitivity turned up to 54% which increases steering around the centre area - but each to their own

[JJC1]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Reynolds

Make sure you don't have any kind of return spring going on in the logitech profiler too - let the game FFB do that....

I was told that in order to get the game to do it you must tick the box for "Centering Spring" but have it's slider set to zero.