(Request) BMW V12 LMR

Blashko · 28 July 12, 14:58

Hello,
someone, a modder of course, can make a new model of this car?
I know there is a model of this car in SCC Mod, but your quality is very poor.
Thank you.

http://bin3aiah.net/cars/makes/b/bmw...-LMR_19999.jpg

alless · 28 July 12, 15:52

@Blashko nobody made it sofar and nobody will it do juust becase you want it right now. Youre spamming all forums i know about gtr2/rf whit this request now allready.

But if somebody will do it you will for sure find it out than but right now its not in the work that i know of it and there are request topics for cars wanna have!

bentley speed 8 · 28 July 12, 16:02

Making a new scratch made car model takes much time and skills, and there are very few people who want to invest them in doing a car for a game, knowing that they won't get much in return. On top of that there are few to none who would do a car just because someone requested it.

By the way since there's already a model for that car (maybe low poly but still IT IS THERE) I think you should just use that one or start doing your own model

Blashko · 28 July 12, 16:12

Thank you for your responses. I'm not a modder, so its impossible for me to make this car.
Really i use the model of SCC Prototypes in my GTR2.
There are two cars what i liked to have in high resolution, and a new cockpit reworked:
BMW V12 LMR, and Mercedes C9.
Good weekend for all, and my excuses for this request.

LeSunTzu · 28 July 12, 18:33

If you have to apologize for that request, then 99% of the members of this site should do it too.

My 2 cts about car requests after my first serious try to model one from scratch: it takes more time than you may expect to gather accurate photo/drawing materials. Many published blueprints are lowres, somewhat inconsistent or contain errors. Even factory blueprints may be inaccurate sometimes, because they change a detail when actually building or developing the car. So you need to get good pictures and they are hard to find too. Especially the kind that are useful for modeling (like perfect front/rear/side views not distorted by perspective). Also a car may evolve from one season to another, sometimes within a season, sometimes from race to race (especially in 70s and 80s). So you have to sort out the pictures (between period pics and museum/restored cars, between seasons, between races) to make sure you are not mixing models.

So before going on the long journey to model and skin a car from scratch, you may need a lot of time to draw the map that will help finish it.

If you are really determined to see this car in a game (before pcars, as I read they will include it), this is the kind of work that you can do on your end, if you have the time and determination to do it. Then your request will be much more than another wish but the start of teamwork.

Blashko · 28 July 12, 18:56

@LeSunTzu, thank you for your kind words.
For the next month I'll be on vacation, and I'll see if I can meet some good photos of this model.
Good luck with your Zytek project.
A very good job.
Greetings

http://vimeo.com/45400257

alless · 29 July 12, 19:46

Just remembered that i had this car somewhere on my hdd, probably lost it a year back but if it somehow comes up again ill send it to you Blashko, maybe someone can help you to bring it ingame. Its not forza model before you ask, hehe but in forza you have this car to...just a tip

Blashko · 29 July 12, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by alless

Just remembered that i had this car somewhere on my hdd, probably lost it a year back but if it somehow comes up again ill send it to you Blashko, maybe someone can help you to bring it ingame. Its not forza model before you ask, hehe but in forza you have this car to...just a tip

I know that this car exist in Forza.
Alless, i do not dislike the SCC Model, only wanted a little rework of cockpit.
I drive all cars in game with this view. So, it's important for me, a good work in this area.
Thank you for your post.
I accept with grateful your offer.
One question, are you the modder that made the Audi R15?

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/image...-V12-LMR_7.jpg

alless · 30 July 12, 05:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blashko

I know that this car exist in Forza.
Alless, i do not dislike the SCC Model, only wanted a little rework of cockpit.
I drive all cars in game with is view. So, it's important for me, a good work in this area.
Thank you for your post.
I accept with grateful your offer.
One question, are you the modder that made the Audi R15?

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/image...-V12-LMR_7.jpg

yup i did r15

Blashko · 3 August 12, 15:29

Maybe you Alless has interested to development a new better cockpit for this model.
It were a good idea. You're a good modder.
I know that is a shame to ask this

Alless, thank you for your beautiful GTR 2 cars.
Have a good wekend.

xanaxkamikaze · 3 August 12, 16:47

I wish I could see that car in action in real life so I could get my own personal pictures of the thing. That is such a good looking car!

ilu2404 · 3 August 12, 18:45

@blashko Why don't you start to learn modding? You want a car, so use this as a learning project. I'm sure a lot of modders started in that way.

Blashko · 3 August 12, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilu2404

@blashko Why don't you start to learn modding? You want a car, so use this as a learning project. I'm sure a lot of modders started in that way.

I have no time

I'm sure Alless like this model, and will make my request come true

http://bin3aiah.net/cars/makes/b/bmw...-LMR_19999.jpg
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/image...-V12-LMR_7.jpg

bentley speed 8 · 3 August 12, 19:26

Well I don't think the other modders have that much free time. The thing needed is patience, if you are patient enough to overcome your mistakes, troubles and such things that you may encounter while making your model, you will be able to finish it someday. You can't finish a car in two or three days. It normally takes many weeks, if not months and even one whole year to do a proper job

Blashko · 3 August 12, 19:36

@bentley speed 8,
Thank you for your post.
I understand perfectly your point of view

Cheers.

Blashko · 3 August 12, 22:41

http://static9.depositphotos.com/100...e-car-1999.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...MR_Cockpit.jpg

Photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4791907...ream/lightbox/

FuNK! · 4 August 12, 07:52

There is a high-poly model for Racer out there. Cockpit looks fine too (on first sight).
Here is a preview from the model in ZModeler:

You could try to get in contact with the author and ask for permission to use his car model

Converting would be pretty easy

Judging from the mesh and the day it was released etc, this seems to be a scratchmade car! So there should be no problems with converting - but we should wait on what the author says

Information about the author can be found here, the car can be downloaded here.

Good luck with this! =)

Blashko · 4 August 12, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuNK!

You could try to get in contact with the author and ask for permission to use his car model

Converting would be pretty easy

Mr. FuNK, do you converting this file for your personal use?
If yes, please share with me

FuNK! · 4 August 12, 10:47

Could provide a converted model, yes. For private use only of course

But I can't promise you exactly when I have time to do so

But I will keep this in mind

davehenrie · 5 August 12, 01:57

It would be interesting to try and figure out a way to tie the ride height to the engine cooling. From what I found, the radiator was cooled by air drawn in from underneath the nose. So the lower they set the ride height, the worse the cooling became. I can't even think of a way to do that with the current ISI code, but it would be interesting.

dh

FuNK! · 5 August 12, 13:14

AFAIK you can only set the ride hight to influence the lift and drag more or less...the physics engine doesn't support such a connection between ride high and engine cooling

Stig007 · 7 August 12, 19:41

Nice car!

p.s which racing series did it take part in?

bentley speed 8 · 8 August 12, 08:08

It won the 1999 24 hours of Le Mans, as well as taking part in the 1999 and 2000 ALMS Seasons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_V12_LMR

Stig007 · 8 August 12, 09:25

Thx m8!!!

28 July 12, 14:58	#1
Blashko Join Date: Mar 2011	(Request) BMW V12 LMR Hello, someone, a modder of course, can make a new model of this car? I know there is a model of this car in SCC Mod, but your quality is very poor. Thank you. http://bin3aiah.net/cars/makes/b/bmw...-LMR_19999.jpg Last edited by CX650; 2 January 13 at 17:43. Reason: Image size rule.

28 July 12, 18:56	#6
Blashko Join Date: Mar 2011	@LeSunTzu, thank you for your kind words. For the next month I'll be on vacation, and I'll see if I can meet some good photos of this model. Good luck with your Zytek project. A very good job. Greetings http://vimeo.com/45400257 Last edited by Blashko; 28 July 12 at 22:36.

3 August 12, 15:29	#10
Blashko Join Date: Mar 2011	Maybe you Alless has interested to development a new better cockpit for this model. It were a good idea. You're a good modder. I know that is a shame to ask this Alless, thank you for your beautiful GTR 2 cars. Have a good wekend. Last edited by Blashko; 3 August 12 at 18:26.

3 August 12, 22:41	#16
Blashko Join Date: Mar 2011	http://static9.depositphotos.com/100...e-car-1999.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...MR_Cockpit.jpg Photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/4791907...ream/lightbox/ Last edited by CX650; 2 January 13 at 17:41. Reason: Image size rule.

28 July 12, 15:52	#2
alless Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Slovenia Age: 29	@Blashko nobody made it sofar and nobody will it do juust becase you want it right now. Youre spamming all forums i know about gtr2/rf whit this request now allready. But if somebody will do it you will for sure find it out than but right now its not in the work that i know of it and there are request topics for cars wanna have!

28 July 12, 16:02	#3
bentley speed 8 Join Date: Feb 2009	Making a new scratch made car model takes much time and skills, and there are very few people who want to invest them in doing a car for a game, knowing that they won't get much in return. On top of that there are few to none who would do a car just because someone requested it. By the way since there's already a model for that car (maybe low poly but still IT IS THERE) I think you should just use that one or start doing your own model

28 July 12, 16:12	#4
Blashko Join Date: Mar 2011	Thank you for your responses. I'm not a modder, so its impossible for me to make this car. Really i use the model of SCC Prototypes in my GTR2. There are two cars what i liked to have in high resolution, and a new cockpit reworked: BMW V12 LMR, and Mercedes C9. Good weekend for all, and my excuses for this request.

28 July 12, 18:33	#5
LeSunTzu Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris	If you have to apologize for that request, then 99% of the members of this site should do it too. My 2 cts about car requests after my first serious try to model one from scratch: it takes more time than you may expect to gather accurate photo/drawing materials. Many published blueprints are lowres, somewhat inconsistent or contain errors. Even factory blueprints may be inaccurate sometimes, because they change a detail when actually building or developing the car. So you need to get good pictures and they are hard to find too. Especially the kind that are useful for modeling (like perfect front/rear/side views not distorted by perspective). Also a car may evolve from one season to another, sometimes within a season, sometimes from race to race (especially in 70s and 80s). So you have to sort out the pictures (between period pics and museum/restored cars, between seasons, between races) to make sure you are not mixing models. So before going on the long journey to model and skin a car from scratch, you may need a lot of time to draw the map that will help finish it. If you are really determined to see this car in a game (before pcars, as I read they will include it), this is the kind of work that you can do on your end, if you have the time and determination to do it. Then your request will be much more than another wish but the start of teamwork.

29 July 12, 19:46	#7
alless Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Slovenia Age: 29	Just remembered that i had this car somewhere on my hdd, probably lost it a year back but if it somehow comes up again ill send it to you Blashko, maybe someone can help you to bring it ingame. Its not forza model before you ask, hehe but in forza you have this car to...just a tip

3 August 12, 16:47	#11
xanaxkamikaze Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Atlantis	I wish I could see that car in action in real life so I could get my own personal pictures of the thing. That is such a good looking car!

3 August 12, 18:45	#12
ilu2404 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Witten/Germany Age: 26	@blashko Why don't you start to learn modding? You want a car, so use this as a learning project. I'm sure a lot of modders started in that way.

3 August 12, 19:26	#14
bentley speed 8 Join Date: Feb 2009	Well I don't think the other modders have that much free time. The thing needed is patience, if you are patient enough to overcome your mistakes, troubles and such things that you may encounter while making your model, you will be able to finish it someday. You can't finish a car in two or three days. It normally takes many weeks, if not months and even one whole year to do a proper job

3 August 12, 19:36	#15
Blashko Join Date: Mar 2011	@bentley speed 8, Thank you for your post. I understand perfectly your point of view Cheers.

4 August 12, 07:52	#17
FuNK! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany	There is a high-poly model for Racer out there. Cockpit looks fine too (on first sight). Here is a preview from the model in ZModeler: You could try to get in contact with the author and ask for permission to use his car model Converting would be pretty easy Judging from the mesh and the day it was released etc, this seems to be a scratchmade car! So there should be no problems with converting - but we should wait on what the author says Information about the author can be found here, the car can be downloaded here. Good luck with this! =)

4 August 12, 10:47	#19
FuNK! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany	Could provide a converted model, yes. For private use only of course But I can't promise you exactly when I have time to do so But I will keep this in mind

5 August 12, 01:57	#20
davehenrie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Post Falls Idaho	It would be interesting to try and figure out a way to tie the ride height to the engine cooling. From what I found, the radiator was cooled by air drawn in from underneath the nose. So the lower they set the ride height, the worse the cooling became. I can't even think of a way to do that with the current ISI code, but it would be interesting. dh

5 August 12, 13:14	#21
FuNK! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany	AFAIK you can only set the ride hight to influence the lift and drag more or less...the physics engine doesn't support such a connection between ride high and engine cooling

7 August 12, 19:41	#22
Stig007 Join Date: Feb 2012	Nice car! p.s which racing series did it take part in?

8 August 12, 08:08	#23
bentley speed 8 Join Date: Feb 2009	It won the 1999 24 hours of Le Mans, as well as taking part in the 1999 and 2000 ALMS Seasons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_V12_LMR