Tracks for the 1937 mod?

[Nev Roberts]

Hi All,

Takes me a while to catch up I know but I've just installed 1937GP mod and would love to be able to race some period correct tracks, particularly Brooklands, Tripoli and Pau.

Have they and any others been released?
Cheers,
Nev

[M1GHTY M4VS]

There's Sempio(Milano) '37
Most of the tracks that are suitable are '50's and '60's tracks like Monaco '67, Nordschleife '70, Eifelrennen, Spa '67.

[f1_edition]

Originally Posted by Nev Roberts

Hi All,

Takes me a while to catch up I know but I've just installed 1937GP mod and would love to be able to race some period correct tracks, particularly Brooklands, Tripoli and Pau.

Have they and any others been released?
Cheers,
Nev

Yes Brooklands and Tripoli and also AVUS'37 were released, look rFactor Central for download.

[AleDriving]

http://www.drivingitalia.net/forum/i...&showfile=3992

[GTAce]

Tripoli is horrible though to be honest, I find it undrivable with the graphic details.
I'd also recommend Avus '67.

[WildBill]

Hi Nev----you must have Vale---it's very good. Look for some of the tracks from Legendsatlunch----he captures the feeling.

DRAGON

[wolfattack]

Originally Posted by f1_edition

Yes Brooklands and Tripoli and also AVUS'37 were released, look rFactor Central for download.

I think you mean Avus 1967, because the 37 one was 3 times bigger than the 1967 layout and doesn't exists for rFactor as of now.

[Nev Roberts]

Thanks Guys,

Looks like a computer kind of day for me...downloading ...installing...driving.
Nice to be retired and have the time.

Cheers,
Nev

[f1_edition]

Originally Posted by wolfattack

I think you mean Avus 1967, because the 37 one was 3 times bigger than the 1967 layout and doesn't exists for rFactor as of now.

It's right .... 67 and not 37 .....

[Nev Roberts]

Hi Again,

Anyone else having a problem with the 1907 version of Brooklands?
After a few laps of all the variations my computer locks up and has to be rebooted. {I've downloaded again and will reinstall to see whether that helps}.

How do you stop these beasts from wandering all over the track? - I just can't seem to get a setup that works.

And should I be able to see the front wheels on each of the cars?
Cheers,
Nev

[jgf]

Originally Posted by AleDriving

http://www.drivingitalia.net/forum/i...&showfile=3992

That list is in need of some serious housekeeping. In an hours' downloading I hit half a dozen 404s and one "This file has been removed for copyright infringement".

[WildBill]

Nev---I'll send you the static cams and a setup or 2 m8

DRAGON

[maseratialfa]

Nev, I found for controlling the cars I really had to dial the FFB to my liking to get a better feel of what the cars were doing. I am using the real feel included in the Mod, but using the hot keys to make adjustments on the fly. I run the ffb pretty high. The other game adjustment the static cam, with a FOV adjustment edit in the ini file. The static cam for the Alfa is 30/30 which might work just fine with your set up. I run tripplescreen with the FOV at 25/25.
For car adjustement i changed the differential lock to 60/60.
Driving adjustments mainly were for braking which seems to be the hardest part for me. It's best to find a balance between braking, and downshifting to get the cars to slow without spinning.

[Nev Roberts]

Thanks guys,

My Hyperstimulator doesn't support FFB so all I can tweak are the usual car settings - I found getting gear ratios right helpful but it's the wandering in a straight line giving me the biggest problem.

I'll try Bill's set ups and see how I go.
Still haven't solved the Brooklands 1907 issues.
Cheers,
Nev

[rocky289]

Hi Nev.

I found the Voiturette class quite drivable with the default settings.
With the more powerful class, the back end lets go easier.
I suspect that may be what you are having problems with.
If you have no FFB it would tend to feel like wandering steering.
I found they do behave if you are careful with your right foot.

Sorry havent tryed Brooklands

[Nev Roberts]

Thanks rocky,

Nice to hear from you.

Cheers,
Nev

[Nev Roberts]

Me again,

Tries a new download and install of Brookland1907 v1.5 but it still locks up after a few laps and have to reboot.

Any ideas?
Cheers,
Nev

[rocky289]

Ok Nev I've installed the Brooklands track from the link given earlier in the thread.

http://www.drivingitalia.net/forum/i...&showfile=3992

It shows up in the sim as Brooklands 1937. The readme calls it V1.5 by BigBen.
I used the largest of the tracks, The Outer.
I found the Voiturette class was ok. Tryed up to 20 cars with no problems.
With the bigger cars not so good. They never seem to get round the first tight corner onto the main track with out a horrendous crash. At that point I had lockups on 2 occations. Didn't have to reboot, used Ctrl Alt Del & shut it down from the task manager.
Once they sorted themselves out from the crash they seemed to go ok from there on.
I found if you reduce the number of cars down to 10 they are better behaved.
Also tryed the 1928 Mercedes SSK mod on the same track. Only 10 cars total in the mod so no problems there.

[maxpayne59]

GP 1937 Mod recommended tracks compilation
F1 CLASSIC rFactor Tracks page n. 4

[Slobbeman]

http://rfactor.************:100/Frie...Folder/1937GP/

Intresting that a link like this not get ******* http://www.drivingitalia.net/forum/i...&showfile=3992

But my post/link seems to be illegal here to mod and tracks ?

[Nev Roberts]

Hi Rocky,

What OS are you using?
When I use ctr/alt/del with my Win 7 Home it takes me back to desk top, where I can still hear the sound from the stalled game and the only option is to shut down - it doesn't bring up task manager.
I'll try a smaller field of cars and see whether that helps.

Thanks everyone for the links to the tracks, I have the ones I need now, but as you can see having trouble running the one I really want to race on.
Cheers,
Nev

[maseratialfa]

A couple of quick tips for windows 7.
Install rfactor outside of program files for example mine is C:\Rfactor.
Download the 4 GB patch and patch the Rfactor executable with the patch. This will allow RF to access more memory.
Add the + full proc to target line in your short cut to launch Rfactor to allow more cores to work in the game. Im posting this with my phone so let me know if you need more detail.

For better performing AI try running the AI auto calibrate mode so they can learn the track better. Also note ai only perform as well as the tracks written ai files.

[rocky289]

Hi Nev

Also Win7 Home.

When I Ctrl+Alt+Del it brings up a blue screen with options, the bottom one being task manager.

[Nev Roberts]

Thanks Rocky,

Relatively new to Win7 and hadn't noticed the task manager option ... another senior moment.

maseratialfa,

Useful info many thanks.

Cheers,
Nev

[BLeeKii]

Originally Posted by Slobbeman

http://rfactor.************:100/Friend...Folder/1937GP/

Gday Slobbeman,
I was partway through grabbing some tracks which I'd been looking for for some time on the address you had shared & when I went to grab the next one, I can't remember which now, I suddenly could no longer go back to the page you have linked...
Ive tried from this link several times now & just keep getting an 'unfound' message on my browser.
Would you know what happened or be able to help me out at all?
BTW, that 1950'sDundrod is hosted on my own Mediafire page which I hosted there after RD lost it's download section & I originally posted the link to the long track listing here on NG.
As for suitable tracks, there's also legendsatlunch's Gnoo Blas which is VERY good with these cars much like his Vale which is also mentioned both above & within Slobbeman's link...

Thank you & all the best!

[jgf]

Originally Posted by BLeeKii

... I suddenly could no longer go back to the page you have linked...
Ive tried from this link several times now & just keep getting an 'unfound' message on my browser.
Would you know what happened or be able to help me out at all?
...

"Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at rfactor.************:100."

The server could be down for maintenance or from malfunction, or it could have shut down from excessive traffic. Wait a day and try again.

[BLeeKii]

Cheers & thank you jgf.
I hope I didn't break it! LoL

[rocky289]

Originally Posted by Nev Roberts

Thanks Rocky,

Relatively new to Win7 and hadn't noticed the task manager option ... another senior moment.

maseratialfa,

Useful info many thanks.

Cheers,
Nev

Just another thought regarding the 1937 mod.
If you try the cars on a track you are familiar with, you may find it easier to get the handling under control.

[Nev Roberts]

Hi Rocky,

Thanks, been doing that and finally realized that you really only need top and third gear. Running at Goodwood every time I braked and selected 2nd it spat me off the track, kept thinking it must have been brake bias or a suspension problem, forgetting these things have enough torque to spin the wheels in top.

Getting there,
Cheers,
Nev

[WildBill]

When you brake for a corner Nev---try to keep the gas on----it's the engine braking that causes your problem. These cars have a lot of torque which gives good acceleration but when you let the gas all the wayoff the rear wheels tend to lockup on you. This is compounded by braking heavily to make the corner.

At least give the throttle a healthy blip as you shift down.

[rocky289]

Originally Posted by Nev Roberts

Hi Rocky,

Thanks, been doing that and finally realized that you really only need top and third gear. Running at Goodwood every time I braked and selected 2nd it spat me off the track, kept thinking it must have been brake bias or a suspension problem, forgetting these things have enough torque to spin the wheels in top.

Getting there,
Cheers,
Nev

Keep at it you'll get there.
Thought you might have driven one of those when you were a young fella.

[rocky289]

Originally Posted by WildBill

When you brake for a corner Nev---try to keep the gas on----it's the engine braking that causes your problem. These cars have a lot of torque which gives good acceleration but when you let the gas all the wayoff the rear wheels tend to lockup on you. This is compounded by braking heavily to make the corner.

At least give the throttle a healthy blip as you shift down.

Whats the car in you avatar WildBill.
I can usually pick most of them but its a bit small to make out.

[Boblebric]

Originally Posted by rocky289

Whats the car in you avatar WildBill.
I can usually pick most of them but its a bit small to make out.

Perhaps a Jaguar XJS, isn't it ?

[Slobbeman]

It work was just a update i did of the server program i use http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/

[WildBill]

Rocky289----well--it's a 1983 5-liter Mustang with around 325 hp and 3.73 gears and 5 speed manual---it was the Yellow Rocket. She was very quick.

That's a while ago----no longer have it

[Nev Roberts]

Thanks Bill,
Come to think of it I used to use a similar technique in GPL.

Rocky,
Never got that close unfortunately.

Cheers,
Nev

[Vette4Life]

Just "Heel and Toe" and counter-steer...

[Nev Roberts]

Hi Vette4Life,

The Hyperstimulator cockpit is a bit tight for H/T.

Cheers,
nev

[rocky289]

Take your shoes off Nev.

[Nev Roberts]

Still too tight [LOL] , mine is the original narrow body might be different in what was the wide body [now standard].

Bill,
Many thanks for the tip - now getting the hang of it and can lap Goodwood in the Bug without spinning.

Thanks everyone for all your help,
Cheers,
Nev

[Capi]

BTW, for the tracks for this mod... RFactor's own Monza 10km

[Vette4Life]

Originally Posted by Nev Roberts

Hi Vette4Life,

The Hyperstimulator cockpit is a bit tight for H/T.

Cheers,
nev

Do it with the side of your foot

What wheel do you use ? The G27 pedals have 3 placement for each.

Throttle: Left
Brake: Right
Clutch: Left

(All in middle position stock)

[Nev Roberts]

Hi Vette4Life,

My Hyperstimulator cockpit has it's own steering and pedal box system, but only has brake and clutch.
They recently developed a three pedal, pedal box but unfortunately my model [the original standard version] isn't wide enough to accept the new unit. Their current standard simulator is both wider and longer than the original version.

It is too narrow to use the side of my foot.
Cheers,
Nev

[jgf]

Are these tracks available for rfactor?

Parco Valentino
Parco Sempio
Montjuich

Bremgarten must exist, I see tons of youtube but no links.

Also found numerous links for Indianapolis '60 and Monaco '67 but all lead to megaupload, which Uncle Sam in his infinite wisdom "threw the baby out with the bathwater". Found a Culmone Monaco '67 at drivingitalia but get a "you are not authorized..." when trying to d/l (though I've d/l'd numerous other tracks there).

[Nev Roberts]

Hi jgf,

Sempio is available but I can't remember where I got it - google should throw it up for you,

Cheers,
Nev

[DurgeDriven]

They are all scratch GPL if anything is permission should be at rFC


Montjuich is GPL permission
http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Montjuich

Parco Valentino is GPL only afaik
http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2384#

W.I.P. not sure if this is what you after though....
http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail...rco%20Sempione


If you see links but nothing on official sites it is a GPL rip mate.

[Boblebric]

Originally Posted by jgf

Are these tracks available for rfactor?

Bremgarten must exist, I see tons of youtube but no links.

Hello,

Bremgarten exist for GPL, and was converted for GTL, and rFactor. Sorry, I havn't link for download this version.

But, if you can wait one or two monthes, we are close to release an all brand new version of this track, with an up-to-date 3D, for rFactor and Sinbim games.

More informations here :
http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=283887

Cheers

[AS4ever]

Originally Posted by Nev Roberts

My Hyperstimulator cockpit has it's own steering and pedal box system, but only has brake and clutch

Must be tough to get good lap times !

Just joking

[Nev Roberts]

The toughest part at my age is getting in and out.

Cheers,
Nev