Need CTD Help pls

bullitt5435 · 20 September 12, 20:34

I just installed the GTL-GTR2 mod and everything was fine until I tried to start the GTC-65 Championship. The game crashed and now when I try to restart it crashes without loading. Suggestions? Thanks in advance.

fisheracing · 20 September 12, 21:27

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Originally Posted by bullitt5435

Suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Yup. Always provide a trace log file when posting for CTD help or assistance mate.

That way some member will have an advantage in sorting out what the cause of the CTD might be...

Generally the last dozen lines or so of the file will suffice in most cases. No need to post the contents of the entire file as this could be up to a thousand lines or more...

Humpfester · 20 September 12, 21:44

http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=11663

Goresh · 20 September 12, 22:24

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Originally Posted by fisheracing

Yup. Always provide a trace log file when posting for CTD help or assistance mate.

That way some member will have an advantage in sorting out what the cause of the CTD might be...

Generally the last dozen lines or so of the file will suffice in most cases. No need to post the contents of the entire file as this could be up to a thousand lines or more...

I must disagree, the entire trace as an attachment is always preferred.

bullitt5435 · 20 September 12, 22:51

Thanks. Here's what I got.

setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC

fisheracing · 20 September 12, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Goresh

I must disagree, the entire trace as an attachment is always preferred.

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...Then in that case you must be in disagreement with yourself Ray...

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Originally Posted by Goresh

I have been reading alot of posts by ppl getting a crash to desktop using various mods, cars, or tracks. The most common reply to these crashes is "try re-installing." I'd like to suggest another solution that will show the cause nine times outa ten.
If one edits their GTR2 shortcuts Target Line to read as follows:

C:\GTR2\GTR2.exe -trace=1000

This will create a trace log file in the following directory, GTR2/USERDATA/LOG. This file can be opened using notepad and if one scrolls to the bottom it will say exactly what caused the CTD. Even if one doesn't understand or can't see the cause themselves, posting this trace log will assist others trying to help.

fisheracing · 20 September 12, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5435

Thanks. Here's what I got.
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC

So is that the bottom lines in the trace m8? If so no clue there as that line is very commonplace in trace files. In most cases the clue would be there. It looks like you should upload the entire trace file as an attachment then if you could. Maybe something will show itself there...

Also make sure that your OFFICIAL_GTC65_Trophy.GDB has these lines in it:

// Game/Season Info: SIMULATION
Game Name = Legends GTC 65 Trophy
Game Filter = AND: 65-GTC
Description = Saison de Legends GTC 1965

SpecialClasses
{
65-GTC = GTC 1965
}

Goresh · 20 September 12, 23:06

I was making a simple explanation of what a trace file is, not how to actually read the file. Did you miss the posting the file part? Its only the next sentence from the one you quoted.

PhilH959 · 21 September 12, 00:43

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Originally Posted by bullitt5435

I just installed the GTL-GTR2 mod and everything was fine until I tried to start the GTC-65 Championship. The game crashed and now when I try to restart it crashes without loading. Suggestions? Thanks in advance.

The game keeps a "pre-load" of the last car and track used, and when starting, if it can't find one or the other, it will CTD. This info is found in your .PLR file...

here is a copy of that area in the PLR file in my game:

[ TRACK ]
Track File="GAMEDATA\LOCATIONS\MidOhio_VLM_ALMS\NoChicane_ALMS \VLM_MidOhio_ALMS.TRK"
Track Description="VLM_MidOhio_ALMS"
AI Database File="GAMEDATA\LOCATIONS\MidOhio_VLM_ALMS\NoChicane_ALMS \VLM_MidOhio_ALMS.AIW"
[ DRIVER ]
Profile Vehicle File=""
Vehicle File="GAMEDATA\TEAMS\24H\Gillet Vertigo Teams\Belgian Racing\04100_G2_VERTIGO.CAR"
Reserved Vehicle File="GAMEDATA\TEAMS\24H\Gillet Vertigo Teams\Belgian Racing\04100_G2_VERTIGO.CAR"
Driver Name="Scott Sharp"

make sure to keep all the quotes " ", just delete what's between them underlined and bold in my example.

Then restart the game.

Phil

bullitt5435 · 21 September 12, 03:31

Thanks Phil, but still no joy

sunalp2 · 21 September 12, 04:07

Do you have the "correct" tracks required for the championship?

Have a look at the championship GDB in the CHAMPIONSHIP folder in GameData.

Tkrau · 21 September 12, 06:34

That's what I was thinking also.

bullitt5435 · 21 September 12, 12:37

Here is the latest trace file, after I tried PhilRob's fix.

setup.cpp 1194: Could not find ULTIMAGTRSOUNDS.AUD
vidman.cpp 1011: Entered VidMan::Enter()
specialfx.cp 3577: Entered SpecialFX::Enter()
dynman.cpp 597: Entered DynMan::Enter()
plrfile.cpp 3783: Entered PlayerFile::Enter()

Goresh · 21 September 12, 13:06

Could you please just post the entire trace as an attachment?

bullitt5435 · 21 September 12, 13:30

Here it is, I hope.

Goresh · 21 September 12, 16:24

setup.cpp 1194: Could not find COBRA427.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find COBRA289.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find COBRA427_COUPE.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find AUSTINHEALEY_3000.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find AUSTINHEALEY_3000.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find AUSTINHEALEY_3000.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find AUSTINHEALEY_3000.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find 63CORVETTE_COUPE.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find P&GPHYSICS.HED
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find VETTEC2_SB.AUD
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FERRARI_275GTB.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FERRARI_275GTB_N.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FERRARI_275GTB.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FERRARI_275GTB.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_GT40.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find TVR_GRIFFITH400.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find TVR_GRIFFITH400.CAS
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find TVR_GRIFFITH400SOUNDS.AUD
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find LOTUS_ELAN26R.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find LOTUS_ELITE.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find MERCEDES_300SL.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find RENAULT_ALPINEA110.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find SHELBY_DAYTONA.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find SHELBY_GT350.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find TVR_GRIFFITH400.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find BMW_ALPINA.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find BMW_CSL.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CORVETTE_69.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CORVETTE_74.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find PANTERA_80-84.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find PANTERA_80-84.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find PANTERA_86.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CAPRI2600.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CAPRI3100.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_ESCORT35-74.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_ESCORT70.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_ESCORT35-74.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find PORSCHE_906.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find 911RSR30_WIDE.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find 911RSR28.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find 911RSR30.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find PORSCHE_914.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find ABARTH_1000TC.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find ALFA_GTA.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_FSPRINT.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_MUSTANG.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find JAGUAR_MKII.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find LOTUS_CORTINA.HDC
setup.cpp 1194: Could not find AUSTIN_MINI.HDC

The above errors suggest you have the file structure wrong. I suggest looking at your GTR2 folder and be sure there isn't a 2nd GameData folder. GTL-GTR2 should have the following path:

GTR2\GameData\Teams\GTL-GTR2

bullitt5435 · 21 September 12, 17:12

I found duplicate car sets in GTC-65 and GTC-76 and deleted those, still no luck. Thanks very much for your time with my problem.

fisheracing · 21 September 12, 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5435

I found duplicate car sets in GTC-65 and GTC-76 and deleted those, still no luck.

So you get a CTD everytime you try to fire up the GTC-65 Championship and there is np with any other game mode?

If that is the case, then the focus should be on the GTC-65 Championship.GDB file and other files that are dependent on that mode then. Would'nt you think?

Frank (sunalp2), has suggested maybe a missing track...never heard a response for that m8. Do you have the required tracks for that championship mode that the .GDB is calling for?

bullitt5435 · 21 September 12, 20:03

No, the game doesn't even load. It crashes as it's loading, so I don't even get to the start screen. I edited the .plr file per Phil H's suggestion, so it won't look for that file when I start it, but still nothing.

bullitt5435 · 23 September 12, 12:18

Thanks for all of your attempts to help, much appreciated. I guess I'll just have to uninstall/reinstall.

davehenrie · 23 September 12, 17:52

That trace file was a mess. Not only were you missing the cars noted above by Goresh, but you were missing key GTR2 files like the headphysics file. So, you best bet is to do a complete wipe. Install GTR2 fresh, patch, then TEST the default cars. ONLY after you are sure the original sim is working correctly should you attempt to add any modded cars.
Good luck

Goresh · 24 September 12, 11:24

I agree with Dave. I'd also like to suggest to extract all mods to a temp location and move them into GTR2 manually. This method guarantees you never end up with duplicate folders and makes you aware of what files your actual adding.

Jempy · 24 September 12, 12:59

And I agree with you too Goresh !
Most problems start with a bad install.

I'm using your method since the beginning and never had a single problem. ( GTR2 or GTR Evo Race07 )
Extracting directly in the game asks much attention as the .rar files haven't always the same structure. Easy to make a mistake if you don't even look at the structure in the .rar file before extracting.

20 September 12, 20:34	#1
bullitt5435 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Savannah GA	Need CTD Help pls I just installed the GTL-GTR2 mod and everything was fine until I tried to start the GTC-65 Championship. The game crashed and now when I try to restart it crashes without loading. Suggestions? Thanks in advance.

20 September 12, 21:44	#3
Humpfester Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Live wire..... Age: 56	http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=11663

20 September 12, 22:51	#5
bullitt5435 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Savannah GA	Thanks. Here's what I got. setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find .HDC

20 September 12, 23:06	#8
Goresh Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada	I was making a simple explanation of what a trace file is, not how to actually read the file. Did you miss the posting the file part? Its only the next sentence from the one you quoted.

21 September 12, 03:31	#10
bullitt5435 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Savannah GA	Thanks Phil, but still no joy

21 September 12, 04:07	#11
sunalp2 Grease Monkey Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne. Age: 61	Do you have the "correct" tracks required for the championship? Have a look at the championship GDB in the CHAMPIONSHIP folder in GameData.

21 September 12, 06:34	#12
Tkrau Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Central California	That's what I was thinking also.

21 September 12, 12:37	#13
bullitt5435 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Savannah GA	Here is the latest trace file, after I tried PhilRob's fix. setup.cpp 1194: Could not find ULTIMAGTRSOUNDS.AUD vidman.cpp 1011: Entered VidMan::Enter() specialfx.cp 3577: Entered SpecialFX::Enter() dynman.cpp 597: Entered DynMan::Enter() plrfile.cpp 3783: Entered PlayerFile::Enter()

21 September 12, 13:06	#14
Goresh Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada	Could you please just post the entire trace as an attachment?

21 September 12, 16:24	#16
Goresh Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada	setup.cpp 1194: Could not find COBRA427.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find COBRA289.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find COBRA427_COUPE.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find AUSTINHEALEY_3000.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find AUSTINHEALEY_3000.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find AUSTINHEALEY_3000.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find AUSTINHEALEY_3000.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find 63CORVETTE_COUPE.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find P&GPHYSICS.HED setup.cpp 1194: Could not find VETTEC2_SB.AUD setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CHEVROLET_CORVETTE65.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FERRARI_275GTB.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FERRARI_275GTB_N.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FERRARI_275GTB.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FERRARI_275GTB.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_GT40.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find TVR_GRIFFITH400.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find TVR_GRIFFITH400.CAS setup.cpp 1194: Could not find TVR_GRIFFITH400SOUNDS.AUD setup.cpp 1194: Could not find LOTUS_ELAN26R.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find LOTUS_ELITE.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find MERCEDES_300SL.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find RENAULT_ALPINEA110.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find SHELBY_DAYTONA.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find SHELBY_GT350.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find TVR_GRIFFITH400.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find BMW_ALPINA.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find BMW_CSL.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CORVETTE_69.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CORVETTE_74.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find PANTERA_80-84.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find PANTERA_80-84.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find PANTERA_86.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CAPRI2600.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find CAPRI3100.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_ESCORT35-74.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_ESCORT70.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_ESCORT35-74.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find PORSCHE_906.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find 911RSR30_WIDE.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find 911RSR28.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find 911RSR30.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find PORSCHE_914.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find ABARTH_1000TC.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find ALFA_GTA.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_FSPRINT.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find FORD_MUSTANG.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find JAGUAR_MKII.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find LOTUS_CORTINA.HDC setup.cpp 1194: Could not find AUSTIN_MINI.HDC The above errors suggest you have the file structure wrong. I suggest looking at your GTR2 folder and be sure there isn't a 2nd GameData folder. GTL-GTR2 should have the following path: GTR2\GameData\Teams\GTL-GTR2

21 September 12, 17:12	#17
bullitt5435 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Savannah GA	I found duplicate car sets in GTC-65 and GTC-76 and deleted those, still no luck. Thanks very much for your time with my problem.

21 September 12, 20:03	#19
bullitt5435 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Savannah GA	No, the game doesn't even load. It crashes as it's loading, so I don't even get to the start screen. I edited the .plr file per Phil H's suggestion, so it won't look for that file when I start it, but still nothing.

23 September 12, 12:18	#20
bullitt5435 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Savannah GA	Thanks for all of your attempts to help, much appreciated. I guess I'll just have to uninstall/reinstall.

23 September 12, 17:52	#21
davehenrie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Post Falls Idaho, in a house so new Google can't find it.	That trace file was a mess. Not only were you missing the cars noted above by Goresh, but you were missing key GTR2 files like the headphysics file. So, you best bet is to do a complete wipe. Install GTR2 fresh, patch, then TEST the default cars. ONLY after you are sure the original sim is working correctly should you attempt to add any modded cars. Good luck

24 September 12, 11:24	#22
Goresh Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada	I agree with Dave. I'd also like to suggest to extract all mods to a temp location and move them into GTR2 manually. This method guarantees you never end up with duplicate folders and makes you aware of what files your actual adding.

24 September 12, 12:59	#23
Jempy Donated Join Date: May 2010 Location: Belgium near Spa Age: 61	And I agree with you too Goresh ! Most problems start with a bad install. I'm using your method since the beginning and never had a single problem. ( GTR2 or GTR Evo Race07 ) Extracting directly in the game asks much attention as the .rar files haven't always the same structure. Easy to make a mistake if you don't even look at the structure in the .rar file before extracting.