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Unread 9 May 17, 22:07   #51
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I didn't really enjoy the race, other than the brave overtaking maneuvers by Zarco in early laps.
All in all, it reminded me of the sad days of 800cc (snooze fest), with big gaps between riders.

The thing that many journalists are not mentioning so far is that this race at Jerez was an anomaly.
When you have tarmac like the one in Jerez, so old (for years in desperate need of resurface) that it's almost like riding in the wet, combined with the crappy Michelins (even worse this year), you get a race like this one was.

So many riders complained so harshly about the french tyres, right after race, that they were strongly advised to keep their mouths shut, "or else..." (at least that's the gossip going around atm).
The majority of riders seem to prefer to go back to last year's tyres, and those weren't all that good to beggin with.

Both factory Yamahas struggled with abnormal lack of tyre grip and feel, especially in the front (clearly visible during the race), same for the Honda of Crutchlow, the Suzuki of Iannone, the Tech3 Yamaha of Folger, the Aprilia of Aleix Espargaro, and the Ducati of Bautista (and probably others).

These are all riders that would not just deny Lorenzo and his Duc of a clear track ahead, they would actually give him a really hard time (if not simply crush him).
So, Lorenzo's podium was a "present" (IMHO). On a regular day, with that Duc, he would be 7th or 8th.

If you notice, the day after the race, there was a test day with all teams participating.
Workarounds with different setups were tested (after the strange race most had) but, most of all, new tyres were brought in and, funny enough, they're similar to the ones of last year (lol).
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Unread 10 May 17, 12:05   #52
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good points Duc, as an ex bike rider I know that front end is EVERYTHING on a bike.
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I agree DucFreak. It was an awful race, and I felt sorry for the pilots that fell off track. The Michelin tyres have shown serious grip problems that must be fixed.
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Unread 18 May 17, 18:26   #54
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/39959770bad news about Nicky Hayden Hope he pulls through.
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Unread 19 May 17, 01:44   #55
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-1...cident/8540168
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Unread 19 May 17, 18:18   #56
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Dammit! Sad news indeed. Doesn't matter, he is a fighter, isn't he? Keep fighting Nicky, keep fighting.
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Oh God effing DAMMIT!!!! I won't say why for spoiler reasons but <bleep> I'm narked off. Good race though (apart from the reason why exactly I'm peeved).
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Just downloaded 3 Motos will sit back tonight, tea 'n bickies ( biscuits)
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Good race, with its ups and downs.

For those that haven't seen this weekend's race, here's the resumed version (extended highlights):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS7qhWyH8G0&t=0m1s


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Oh God effing DAMMIT!!!! I won't say why for spoiler reasons but <bleep> I'm narked off. Good race though (apart from the reason why exactly I'm peeved).
I hear ya. It was such a shame.

Next round is at Mugello (Italy), 6th June.
It'll be an intense weekend, for sure.
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Oh God effing DAMMIT!!!! I won't say why for spoiler reasons but <bleep> I'm narked off. Good race though (apart from the reason why exactly I'm peeved).
Yep, no spoilers from me either. Such a good race till the very end.

Have you guys seen Moto3? Such a huge crash, and it ruined the weekend for Bulega and other pilots. Also many crashes during the race, and I wonder if it has to do with the tyres pilots have been complaining about.
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Unread Yesterday, 09:21   #61
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What about Binders near miss, how did he stay on that thing.
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I still havn't got round to watching the moto 3 and 2 races from Jerez yet let along France!! So much to watch so little time....
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Make SURE you watch the Moto 3 from Jerez. What a finish!

The Moto 2 race at Jerez was also a "milestone" win, though not nearly as exciting.
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Unread Yesterday, 16:42   #64
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https://www.motorsport.com/wsbk/news/hayden-909249/
Sad news about Nicky Hayden.

Rest in peace
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Just read the news...

Rest in peace, Nicky Hayden
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