Austin Mini Cooper S 1310cc Mod

Kongo · 17 February 08, 22:19

So...there's no thread for this here...what's going on?

In any case, who's downloaded it? Who thinks it rocks?
MAN is it a different cut of Mini......I'm gonna miss not owning one after racing in it I tell ya but then again,...with fuel as it is going who knows...

Anyways, I'm really digging this mod. I use the livery that's similar to my signature one.

At first you notice the handling differences like round Donnington you can drivft most corners it's that light and slidey.
Then you smack it into it's longest gearing and OMG it actually goes!
I went in the normal Mini afterwards and although I'm still better in it in the long run of consistancies (I havn't made a good setup for the 1310cc yet) i DID notice power differences in top speed.

Thanks for this great mod guys. Here's to the next one eh?

wad53 · 17 February 08, 23:26

I've been testing this mod and I am a real life Mini Cooper S owner.
This mod is brilliant. The cars look fantastic (far better than the default Mini), sounds are great, and the handling feels very close to my real Mini. I think the horses may be a bit overdone, it sure is quick. I have tested it on a few tracks and it is about 3 to 4 secs quicker than my default Mini times.
In this car, I could compete quite well with the top Falcon and Alfa drivers in our league, which is probably a bit unrealistic, but sure is top notch fun.

Overall, I love this mod, and a big thank you to the modders.

Nappe1 · 18 February 08, 10:05

call me stupid, but where this is available for download?
I do want to give it a test spin.

SpecialKS · 18 February 08, 10:23

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=8442

Pizzaman · 18 February 08, 11:08

IMO it's not too quick. I am still faster with the Falcon and the Alfa on most tracks, and on some with the Mustang.
It is just more 'Mini', means you can drive 'the Mini line' which differs considerably from the 'ideal line'.
Also, it is forgiving like a real Mini which is why you can get away with murder in it (remember Cecil 'Smoky' Rhodes?), but at a price (tyres).
I don't know about Falcons (they may be too slow in GTL IMO), but an Alfa you can keep up with a Mini upto 160 km/h. And it will get an Alfa in corners if you know how to drive a Mini (like a loon). As in real life.
You'll have trouble keeping up with a well-driven Alfa though, certainly on the longer straight tracks. I think the Falcon and Mustang are too slow in a straight line.

One thing we'll never get right in GTL is exact wear, tear and reliability. You need to remember this, as the tyres do wear but with a real Mini it is quite possible to wreck them in a single lap. You'll have a blow-out (or drive the tyres right off the rims) if you'd drive like that in real life. Also, driving like a loon causes free-play due to ULTRA-wear on suspension, which would make it a B... to drive after a few loony-laps. However, since this is not simulated... Well the other cars would have their own specific problems.

Main thing is, you'll only find out after 20 laps. Try 20 laps with this Mini, and don't change the tyres.
I'll bet you will see the inside of a ditch pretty soon!

Further, wide arches and wheels were not homologated by FIA in 1965. I wouldn't know what the other cars got in 1966-67-68, except tha Alfa got more power in 1967 (GTV with larger engine). The Mini takes a bit of a leap ahead here... partly because we felt that the arches were the thing missing on the Mini as we all know it. And no use making the mod, producing a wide arched Mini that is slower than the original. So it is a little bit faster (but only a small bit). Consistency is going to be a problem: it is also far more twitchy than the defaul Mini. But at least now it drives like a proper Mini

!

sunalp2 · 18 February 08, 11:14

I have to thank Pizzaman for his help with getting the car to drive like a real Mini, and I'm really happy with the result.

Just a heads up, that I have an update coming soon. I knew that Sharpo was working on a couple of extra body styles and more wheels, but I didn't realise he was so close to finishing them off.

When I update the mod, I will include a smaller file update for those that have already downloaded version 1.0

Nappe1 · 18 February 08, 11:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizzaman

IMO it's not too quick. I am still faster with the Falcon and the Alfa on most tracks, and on some with the Mustang.
It is just more 'Mini', means you can drive 'the Mini line' which differs considerably from the 'ideal line'.

I wonder if I am faster in new Mini than you are in Falcon.

Let's say some really fast track, like Fuji 2002 for example... (this is the only track where I beat Jevgen hands down even in old Mini

)

Let's ask Jevgen if he is interested to this speed test as well...

James_1 · 18 February 08, 11:57

I wonder how large the standard GTL Mini engines are. I very much doubt that they will 1275cc because they made so few blocks. I know that most series allow up to +60 rebores. This mod is great though! The physics are far better. There isn't an ERA Turbo Mini coming from the sharpo workshops is there?! 200bph+!

Nappe1 · 18 February 08, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_1

I wonder how large the standard GTL Mini engines are. I very much doubt that they will 1275cc because they made so few blocks. I know that most series allow up to +60 rebores. This mod is great though! The physics are far better. There isn't an ERA Turbo Mini coming from the sharpo workshops is there?! 200bph+!

even though I am Mini fan, +200 bhp from ERA Turbo sounds awfully lot to me, even if it is ERA Turbo. As almost road going cars, I have heard that most powerful Minis in finland are 1380cc Turbo (around ~140bhp, fully registered for road though.) and one unique hand built roadster which has Nitrous Oxide kit. (around +120 bhp with momentarily boost to +180bhp when injected from the bottles. IIRC, it was selected most beautiful at IMM 2000, Saariselkä, Finland)

and off course, there's this Perälä's Clubman, that has engine swap. It has transversed installed 2.5 liter Rover V8 (stated to be originally boat engine.

) with Austin Princess gearbox and modified Range Rover flywheel.

EDIT: it's a V8, not V6.

more information about Clubman: http://www.geocities.com/jharkola/Viku2.html

wad53 · 18 February 08, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizzaman

Main thing is, you'll only find out after 20 laps. Try 20 laps with this Mini, and don't change the tyres.
I'll bet you will see the inside of a ditch pretty soon!

Yes, I must admit that I haven't yet tried it over a full race distance. My first testing was at Zolder because I had just completed a League round there driving the default GTL Mini. My PB for that event was 1.57.0 which I was very happy with, but it was about 2.5 secs behind the top Falcon's and Alfa's.
After about 7 laps in the 1310 Mini my PB was 1.53.5, which would have given me pole for the event. Hence my comment about HP.
I have tried it at a few other tracks with similar results, but I will certainly give it a real test over about 20 laps.

But I fully agree that it drives much more like my real Mini, and I loved it. I sure wish I had been able to use it for my current League series, I might have given some of the top guys a fright.

James_1 · 18 February 08, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nappe1

even though I am Mini fan, +200 bhp from ERA Turbo sounds awfully lot to me, even if it is ERA Turbo. As almost road going cars, I have heard that most powerful Minis in finland are 1380cc Turbo (around ~140bhp, fully registered for road though.) and one unique hand built roadster which has Nitrous Oxide kit. (around +120 bhp with momentarily boost to +180bhp when injected from the bottles. IIRC, it was selected most beautiful at IMM 2000, Saariselkä, Finland)

I have only seen over 200 once and the rolling road appeared to read very high (55 for a stock 998).

Pizzaman · 18 February 08, 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_1

I have only seen over 200 once and the rolling road appeared to read very high (55 for a stock 998).

You can adjust a rolling road to compensate for the transmission-loss.
A stock 998 should get to 50-55 when running well (but how many are...).
I got 120 hp after deduction for transmission etc. from my 1295.
Well, that was once and now not anymore

I have 250.000 km on it now, and would be glad if it made 90.

My standard 998 is doing OK, top speed (I had a speeding ticket for it too

) 147 km/h after the (obligatory) deduction, I think it was 5 km.
Takes a weee while to get there though, and don't try it 'up-wind'.
Keeping your engine well-tuned is an art, certainly in those days with points-ignition and all kind of crap.

I think most racing Minis if they started the race at 120hp, will have ended it with 100 hp...

But then, so would the Alfas.
NOT SO the V8's, they are rather unstressed engines.

As saidm, the HP figure is just bollocks. That's what 's needed to make it a bitty faster than the original GTL-Mini. But have you noticed it has LESS hp than the default? Drive it, and notice that it is also heaps more PEAKY.
Now put the AI at max, take a good track (and a track with GOOD AI) and start an all-Mini race... how fast is it?

@ Nappe1: a standard ERA-turbo is about 95hp... 200? that will be the last before the big bang. What they probably mean is 'Mini with ERA body-kit and a completely wonked out Turbo-engine'.
Yes it IS possible: have a look, 225hp Mini Turbo

And I'd like to do that test. Must say that I think I'll lose. Would lose from ya if it were you in the default-Mini as well (:roflmao: you have seen me drive... -'how did you get there?' -'I don't know, just hit the wall and here I am'!' :roflmao

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Nappe1 · 18 February 08, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizzaman

And I'd like to do that test. Must say that I think I'll lose. Would lose from ya if it were you in the default-Mini as well (:roflmao: you have seen me drive... -'how did you get there?' -'I don't know, just hit the wall and here I am'!' :roflmao

!

well, Jevgen and I are going to race at Fuji(1998-2002) and Cadwell (at least, if not even more.) with that 1310cc. tonight.

everyone who has enough sportmanship and time to join are welcome.

Server is RPD - Fuji - Cadwell - 1310cc and I most likely leave it on for the night so that our U.S. friends have chance to test it as well.

Maybe I should make another thread about it??

tracks are:
- Cadwell (included in addon server pack)
- Fuji 1998 - 2004 available at http://www.altbierbude.de/component/...d,806/lang,en/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizzaman

@ Nappe1: a standard ERA-turbo is about 95hp... 200? that will be the last before the big bang. What they probably mean is 'Mini with ERA body-kit and a completely wonked out Turbo-engine'.
Yes it IS possible: have a look, 225hp Mini Turbo

sure thing... you can get even more with The Ultimate Mini package. It is not FWD anymore and the back seat is gone, but heck with that dual charged 1200cc hayabusa engine, it eats nowadays Jags for breakfast.

Driving?? naah, it's a wheel driven rocket sled, so controlling it is really intense.

Pizzaman · 18 February 08, 17:09

That Mini is an A-series-engine...
I am sure they can get heaps more, like the Mini Center Ben van Leeuwen here in Holland is doing something concerning a Mini Pickup, the back is used to contain a full-blown methanol drag-racing V8...

But that's not a Mini anymore IMO, neither is that Hayabusa.
I could shove in a VTEC-engine, but I have driven that and it is fun, but pointless.
The fun of that is simply beyond me, because all it wants to do is go straight (and not even that). The most fun aof a Mini is throwing it around...

I'd like to join you tonight, but I have to think about it...
Some cars need to be '1310'-ed... I'm sure you know which ones!!

Jevgen · 18 February 08, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizzaman

IMO it's not too quick.

Well... at least it's damn fun to drive. I just did 1.29.9 in Cadwell wich is over five seconds faster than default Mini and my setups still suck. I can only imagine what times Ross and the other tuff guys would do in it. I think it's easily the fastest car on the TC-65 grid.

Kongo · 18 February 08, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nappe1

call me stupid, but where this is available for download?
I do want to give it a test spin.

If you can;t find it, search for in in the downloads section.
However, because I am nice to you GTL folks, iot can also be found in my Add-on cars thread...you all know where that is by now right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunalp2

Just a heads up, that I have an update coming soon. I knew that Sharpo was working on a couple of extra body styles and more wheels, but I didn't realise he was so close to finishing them off.

Please make a set of AlleyCats.

To sum this mod up, it's possably the BIGGEST mod ever so far!
...Mainly because almost all GTL players are Mini mad!
Best part is, the revometer is accurate! It goes all the way whereas the standard one only points to 7200RPM when it should point to 8200RPM.
The HUD does but the cockpit doesn't. P&G also fixed this...can it be fixed for the normal Mini's?
Orange light doesn't matter because, playing GTL since launch, you shift by ear.

......I feel deep in my blood the urge to seak out a Mini again...*sigh* first car buying is never easy.

Pizzaman · 18 February 08, 19:54

The AlleyCat wheels are a later type of wheel... :p
But they'll surely be in the MINIMIGLIA Mod....

(yes... something to kick Capri-ass in GTC-76...

)

Kongo · 18 February 08, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizzaman

The AlleyCat wheels are a later type of wheel... :p
But they'll surely be in the MINIMIGLIA Mod....

(yes... something to kick Capri-ass in GTC-76...

)

Now lets not "Skyline" this mod. I'm not bothered about period correct as GTL is modern classic driving. If I can have Type-R dials I can have AlleyCats.

The option will be purely on the gamer as to whether or not to put them in.
My signature Mini is based on modern principles...OH NOW THERE'S AN IDEA! Release them for normal Mini too...please please.

On top of un-peroid correct mods...any chance of a mkIII Cooper Speedo? I'd love to see what speed I'm doing past 90MPH. :hehehe:
Mmmmm be nice in my signature once more...

James_1 · 18 February 08, 20:17

Quote:

If I can have Type-R dials I can have AlleyCats.

Wow, you are still using my gauges?!

Since this is meant to be modern day classic racing I would think anything that is 'classic' goes. TBH most series work this way. Provided the cars look right they are generally allowed. The FIA event is probally stricter but this is a game after all!! Allycats were 70's/80's must haves (and still are now for some) so I can see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed in GTL. If someone can/will make them is another matter though!

Pizzaman · 18 February 08, 20:28

Hahaha noooo the Mini Miglia Mod is being done by some other dudes at Gamers Crib.
It isn't meant to be in GTC-76, but the ridiculous encraption probably forces it to be there.

If I am correct, some of the Miglia-Minis have Alleycat wheels. But they'll have massive arches and will be VERY WIDE wheels. You can fit ANY wheels to the default-Mini, but as we found with the Sharpo-Mini they do influence behaviour. So if you are looking for a special wheel on the default-Mini, it will have to be resized to the default-size or you'll be deviant... could be done though. Are you sure you mean Alleycat wheels? Or do you mean Mamba rims?

Mini Miglia has been 'on' for a long time. What class it goes? I have no idea. Probably none. But I think there will be a Miglia-server somewhere, until we crack the code for GTL, or SimBin gives it to us.

As for dials, you'll have to wait for the Mk3 Mini... including the Clubman. Maybe. But AFAIK the Cooper S-speedo goes to 130 mph? Else just add a sticker to the monitor where the speedo ends and write 'berserk'....

Maybe Paul would want to do some Alleycat wheels. Next on are Revolutions and Dunlop wheels (Cosmic alloys?), maybe that is a bit of comfort...

BTW I wouldn't know what your signature Mini looks like... picture might help.

Kongo · 18 February 08, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_1

Wow, you are still using my gauges?!

Since this is meant to be modern day classic racing I would think anything that is 'classic' goes. TBH most series work this way. Provided the cars look right they are generally allowed. The FIA event is probally stricter but this is a game after all!! Allycats were 70's/80's must haves (and still are now for some) so I can see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed in GTL. If someone can/will make them is another matter though!

Since day one bud.

As you can see, they are both in my online Mini and Signature Mini.
I LOVE whiteface dials...LOVE 'EM! They kick ass by contrasting colour in both the stock Red Mini and my Signature one.

I also still use your light mod...but only on my signature as you can edit it's genstring.

I would LOVE some Alleycats for the normal and modded Mini...Mmmmm...
My signature needs more cosmetic mods.

I did also use your cooper wheels for a time but...none of the colours worked.

Yes this is a game. Thing is, you can make em and people will love em but if not, they dont have to use them.
It's a win win.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizzaman

As for dials, you'll have to wait for the Mk3 Mini... including the Clubman. Maybe. But AFAIK the Cooper S-speedo goes to 130 mph? Else just add a sticker to the monitor where the speedo ends and write 'berserk'....

Maybe Paul would want to do some Alleycat wheels. Next on are Revolutions and Dunlop wheels (Cosmic alloys?), maybe that is a bit of comfort...

BTW I wouldn't know what your signature Mini looks like... picture might help.

You should know my signature by now. Look in the gallery.

Anyways, 4th pic is an AlleyCat wheel.
I love them.

Pizzaman · 18 February 08, 21:44

After searching the gallery between 2.675 uploaded pics by Kongo I have found it.
Hahaha you meant your league-Mini. Still stuff sets lost in translation.

I agree, they'd look really good on that one. But the Alleycat-wheels are 12 inch and you'd never be able to drive them online, same as BeepBeep2 couldn't drive his new '512 riddler-car' which I based on the Sharpo-Mini-mod (BTW also sporting James' lights mod).
Errr... those Alleycat-wheels are actually the same as BBS-wheels. The designs is quite common realy.

But this type of wheel is do-able, maybe I'll have a go with Z-modeller.
If I can do it I'll get ya some in 5Jx10 for a default-Mini so you can use them in the Mini-league.

Kongo · 18 February 08, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizzaman

After searching the gallery between 2.675 uploaded pics by Kongo I have found it.
Hahaha you meant your league-Mini. Still stuff sets lost in translation.

I agree, they'd look really good on that one. But the Alleycat-wheels are 12 inch and you'd never be able to drive them online, same as BeepBeep2 couldn't drive his new '512 riddler-car' which I based on the Sharpo-Mini-mod (BTW also sporting James' lights mod).
Errr... those Alleycat-wheels are actually the same as BBS-wheels. The designs is quite common realy.

But this type of wheel is do-able, maybe I'll have a go with Z-modeller.
If I can do it I'll get ya some in 5Jx10 for a default-Mini so you can use them in the Mini-league.

Well I'm sure we can fake some 10".

I'd have 12" in life so I spose I forgot LOL!

Pizzaman · 18 February 08, 22:18

I can do 2D-stuff easy with most CAD-CAm programs.
Somehow though I can't get to grips with the 3D-stuff.
Same with Photoshop, always goes bugger on me. I use PSP...
But keeping at it!

Jevgen · 20 February 08, 15:49

I have done some more testing with this new Mini. Here are some of my thoughts.

First of all I really appreciate you guys (Sunalp2, Sharpo and Pizzaman) who made this mod. Overall the car is great fun to drive

. Steering is very responsive now. It feels like I think Mini should feel (never driven Mini in real life... bugger

). Rear end feels very light now... Is it too light? I tested it with different setups and I never got it to be responsive and balanced at the same time. With default Mini and standard wide arched Mini I loved to use left foot braking into corners. Now it will kill me if I'm going to do that. Still the car is hugely fast.

Here are some times that I have driven with 1310cc Cooper S using same setups.

Cadwell:
My time: 1.29.94
Best TC-65 time in No Grip: 1.32.171 (Alfa)

Donington National:
My time: 1.19.00
Best TC-65 time in No Grip: 1.22.938 (Alfa)

Zolder:
My time: 1.50.15
Best TC-65 time in No Grip: 1.55.069 (Alfa)

...and I'm definetely not the fastest driver out there. I'm usually a second behind the lap record makers. The question is: Is it too fast to be part of TC-65? I'm sure with better setups I can go a second faster than my test times are now and when I think how fast the really tuff guys can go with this one...

.

17 February 08, 22:19	#1
Kongo NG's Badass Bassist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK, England, East Midlands, Leicester	Austin Mini Cooper S 1310cc Mod So...there's no thread for this here...what's going on? In any case, who's downloaded it? Who thinks it rocks? MAN is it a different cut of Mini......I'm gonna miss not owning one after racing in it I tell ya but then again,...with fuel as it is going who knows... Anyways, I'm really digging this mod. I use the livery that's similar to my signature one. At first you notice the handling differences like round Donnington you can drivft most corners it's that light and slidey. Then you smack it into it's longest gearing and OMG it actually goes! I went in the normal Mini afterwards and although I'm still better in it in the long run of consistancies (I havn't made a good setup for the 1310cc yet) i DID notice power differences in top speed. Thanks for this great mod guys. Here's to the next one eh?

18 February 08, 11:14	#6
sunalp2 Grease Monkey Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne. Age: 58	I have to thank Pizzaman for his help with getting the car to drive like a real Mini, and I'm really happy with the result. Just a heads up, that I have an update coming soon. I knew that Sharpo was working on a couple of extra body styles and more wheels, but I didn't realise he was so close to finishing them off. When I update the mod, I will include a smaller file update for those that have already downloaded version 1.0 Last edited by sunalp2; 18 February 08 at 13:27.

20 February 08, 15:49	#25
Jevgen Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: On the field Age: 28	I have done some more testing with this new Mini. Here are some of my thoughts. First of all I really appreciate you guys (Sunalp2, Sharpo and Pizzaman) who made this mod. Overall the car is great fun to drive. Steering is very responsive now. It feels like I think Mini should feel (never driven Mini in real life... bugger). Rear end feels very light now... Is it too light? I tested it with different setups and I never got it to be responsive and balanced at the same time. With default Mini and standard wide arched Mini I loved to use left foot braking into corners. Now it will kill me if I'm going to do that. Still the car is hugely fast. Here are some times that I have driven with 1310cc Cooper S using same setups. Cadwell: My time: 1.29.94 Best TC-65 time in No Grip: 1.32.171 (Alfa) Donington National: My time: 1.19.00 Best TC-65 time in No Grip: 1.22.938 (Alfa) Zolder: My time: 1.50.15 Best TC-65 time in No Grip: 1.55.069 (Alfa) ...and I'm definetely not the fastest driver out there. I'm usually a second behind the lap record makers. The question is: Is it too fast to be part of TC-65? I'm sure with better setups I can go a second faster than my test times are now and when I think how fast the really tuff guys can go with this one.... Last edited by Jevgen; 20 February 08 at 16:04.

17 February 08, 23:26	#2
wad53 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hervey Bay, Australia	I've been testing this mod and I am a real life Mini Cooper S owner. This mod is brilliant. The cars look fantastic (far better than the default Mini), sounds are great, and the handling feels very close to my real Mini. I think the horses may be a bit overdone, it sure is quick. I have tested it on a few tracks and it is about 3 to 4 secs quicker than my default Mini times. In this car, I could compete quite well with the top Falcon and Alfa drivers in our league, which is probably a bit unrealistic, but sure is top notch fun. Overall, I love this mod, and a big thank you to the modders.

18 February 08, 10:05	#3
Nappe1 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savitaipale or Kotka, Finland Age: 30	call me stupid, but where this is available for download? I do want to give it a test spin.

18 February 08, 10:23	#4
SpecialKS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Age: 48	http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=8442

18 February 08, 11:08	#5
Pizzaman Minifreak Optima Forma Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Groningen Centre of the Universe	IMO it's not too quick. I am still faster with the Falcon and the Alfa on most tracks, and on some with the Mustang. It is just more 'Mini', means you can drive 'the Mini line' which differs considerably from the 'ideal line'. Also, it is forgiving like a real Mini which is why you can get away with murder in it (remember Cecil 'Smoky' Rhodes?), but at a price (tyres). I don't know about Falcons (they may be too slow in GTL IMO), but an Alfa you can keep up with a Mini upto 160 km/h. And it will get an Alfa in corners if you know how to drive a Mini (like a loon). As in real life. You'll have trouble keeping up with a well-driven Alfa though, certainly on the longer straight tracks. I think the Falcon and Mustang are too slow in a straight line. One thing we'll never get right in GTL is exact wear, tear and reliability. You need to remember this, as the tyres do wear but with a real Mini it is quite possible to wreck them in a single lap. You'll have a blow-out (or drive the tyres right off the rims) if you'd drive like that in real life. Also, driving like a loon causes free-play due to ULTRA-wear on suspension, which would make it a B... to drive after a few loony-laps. However, since this is not simulated... Well the other cars would have their own specific problems. Main thing is, you'll only find out after 20 laps. Try 20 laps with this Mini, and don't change the tyres. I'll bet you will see the inside of a ditch pretty soon! Further, wide arches and wheels were not homologated by FIA in 1965. I wouldn't know what the other cars got in 1966-67-68, except tha Alfa got more power in 1967 (GTV with larger engine). The Mini takes a bit of a leap ahead here... partly because we felt that the arches were the thing missing on the Mini as we all know it. And no use making the mod, producing a wide arched Mini that is slower than the original. So it is a little bit faster (but only a small bit). Consistency is going to be a problem: it is also far more twitchy than the defaul Mini. But at least now it drives like a proper Mini !

18 February 08, 11:57	#8
James_1 Uploader Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kent, UK Age: 18	I wonder how large the standard GTL Mini engines are. I very much doubt that they will 1275cc because they made so few blocks. I know that most series allow up to +60 rebores. This mod is great though! The physics are far better. There isn't an ERA Turbo Mini coming from the sharpo workshops is there?! 200bph+!

18 February 08, 17:09	#14
Pizzaman Minifreak Optima Forma Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Groningen Centre of the Universe	That Mini is an A-series-engine... I am sure they can get heaps more, like the Mini Center Ben van Leeuwen here in Holland is doing something concerning a Mini Pickup, the back is used to contain a full-blown methanol drag-racing V8... But that's not a Mini anymore IMO, neither is that Hayabusa. I could shove in a VTEC-engine, but I have driven that and it is fun, but pointless. The fun of that is simply beyond me, because all it wants to do is go straight (and not even that). The most fun aof a Mini is throwing it around... I'd like to join you tonight, but I have to think about it... Some cars need to be '1310'-ed... I'm sure you know which ones!!

18 February 08, 19:54	#17
Pizzaman Minifreak Optima Forma Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Groningen Centre of the Universe	The AlleyCat wheels are a later type of wheel... :p But they'll surely be in the MINIMIGLIA Mod.... (yes... something to kick Capri-ass in GTC-76... )

18 February 08, 20:28	#20
Pizzaman Minifreak Optima Forma Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Groningen Centre of the Universe	Hahaha noooo the Mini Miglia Mod is being done by some other dudes at Gamers Crib. It isn't meant to be in GTC-76, but the ridiculous encraption probably forces it to be there. If I am correct, some of the Miglia-Minis have Alleycat wheels. But they'll have massive arches and will be VERY WIDE wheels. You can fit ANY wheels to the default-Mini, but as we found with the Sharpo-Mini they do influence behaviour. So if you are looking for a special wheel on the default-Mini, it will have to be resized to the default-size or you'll be deviant... could be done though. Are you sure you mean Alleycat wheels? Or do you mean Mamba rims? Mini Miglia has been 'on' for a long time. What class it goes? I have no idea. Probably none. But I think there will be a Miglia-server somewhere, until we crack the code for GTL, or SimBin gives it to us. As for dials, you'll have to wait for the Mk3 Mini... including the Clubman. Maybe. But AFAIK the Cooper S-speedo goes to 130 mph? Else just add a sticker to the monitor where the speedo ends and write 'berserk'.... Maybe Paul would want to do some Alleycat wheels. Next on are Revolutions and Dunlop wheels (Cosmic alloys?), maybe that is a bit of comfort... BTW I wouldn't know what your signature Mini looks like... picture might help.

18 February 08, 21:44	#22
Pizzaman Minifreak Optima Forma Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Groningen Centre of the Universe	After searching the gallery between 2.675 uploaded pics by Kongo I have found it. Hahaha you meant your league-Mini. Still stuff sets lost in translation. I agree, they'd look really good on that one. But the Alleycat-wheels are 12 inch and you'd never be able to drive them online, same as BeepBeep2 couldn't drive his new '512 riddler-car' which I based on the Sharpo-Mini-mod (BTW also sporting James' lights mod). Errr... those Alleycat-wheels are actually the same as BBS-wheels. The designs is quite common realy. But this type of wheel is do-able, maybe I'll have a go with Z-modeller. If I can do it I'll get ya some in 5Jx10 for a default-Mini so you can use them in the Mini-league.

18 February 08, 22:18	#24
Pizzaman Minifreak Optima Forma Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Groningen Centre of the Universe	I can do 2D-stuff easy with most CAD-CAm programs. Somehow though I can't get to grips with the 3D-stuff. Same with Photoshop, always goes bugger on me. I use PSP... But keeping at it!