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It's going to make for an interesting season next year
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Yamaha Factory Racing Press Statement
It is with great pleasure that Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd confirms the signing of Valentino Rossi to ride for the Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team for 2013 and 2014. Valentino Rossi first joined Yamaha in 2004 and achieved four MotoGP World Champion titles with the Yamaha YZR-M1 in 2004 and 2005 and again in 2008 and 2009. He won 46 Grand Prix races with Yamaha over a 7 year period before leaving at the end of the 2010 MotoGP season. Rossi, who is presently 8th in the Championship standings, will partner Jorge Lorenzo who currently leads the 2012 MotoGP World Championship by 23 points, having taken five victories from the first ten completed races of the 18 race series. Lin Jarvis - Managing Director, Yamaha Motor Racing “This announcement is once again excellent news for Yamaha. In June we were able to sign Jorge Lorenzo for the 2013-14 campaign and now we are able to confirm Valentino Rossi for the next two years. In doing so we have been able to put together the strongest possible team to challenge for victories and to promote the Yamaha brand. We have run this ‘super team’ together in 2008, 2009 and 2010 and during that time we achieved the ‘triple crown’ titles with Rider, Manufacturer and Team World Championship victories for three consecutive years. The target for the future is obvious and we will do our utmost to achieve our goals. I have no doubt that with the experience, knowledge, skills and speed of these two great champion riders we will be able to challenge for many race wins and for the 2013 and 2014 World Championship titles. The signing of Valentino completes our future planning for the Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team. Now that this is done we will put our 100% efforts into completing the job at hand and to supporting Ben Spies and Jorge Lorenzo in their search for race victories and for Jorge’s 2012 World Championship title challenge.” Now I believe it.................. 
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Saw this one, thought it's too good not to share...
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@ Ducfreak,
Rossi quitting Ducati because he's not happy there is the bravest thing he's ever done. Casey quitting the sport because he's not happy there means he can't stand the heat. Interesting. Personally, privileged profession or not, I admire them both for being their own person. Casey's leaving means there's a spot for some other arm and leg. We only have one life to live, God bless the people with the courage to make difficult decisions about their own happiness, and not be fearful about letting people know the reasons why. |
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Cam,
I understand your view and, as I said, it was predictable others would disagree with me. You point out the simplest reason to justify it... pursuing happiness in life. He doesn't find that anymore in GPs, he must find it elsewhere. All good, these athletes are persons like you and me. Still, it isn't normal. Regarding my previous comment, here's how I see it (maybe you understand why I said it like that): We have Rossi, with 33 years old, multi-milionaire and 9x world champion (won all classes in GPs). Nothing more to prove. He could have quit plenty years ago, and enjoy a happy playboy life, or whatever life-style he sees fit for retirement, at still young age and with such wealth. Yet, he doesn't. Even after the tragic death of Simoncelli (said to be his only real friend inside the riders circle) in an unfortunate accident in which, sadly, he was involved. He still keeps on risking having egg on his face. Yet another challenge for next two years that could stain his big career forever (the Ducati failure sure doesn't help it either). All for the sake of racing on a GP proto bike. That's a true racer in my book. Then we have Casey Stoner, 27 years old, 2x world champion, defending a title and still many years of racing victories ahead of him. Who knows, many more titles. He's also Australia's 2nd best paid athlete ($9.5m). He got married, has a baby daughter... heck, he's not the first rider in that situation, is he? He says that both the fans and journos have been unfair to him all this time (cares too much about about what others think about him?), that he detests the busy life style of GPs and all the PR tasks/assignments with sponsors and such (who are the ones actually paying him to race in the GP protos he enjoys so much), and that he can't identify himself with the organization entities, the ones running the series/champs that he strived so much, for so long, throughout his life (and of his parents) to get into, then win. Let's pause right there for a second... these guys never got into this sport for a safe and calm routine, private and incognito "9-to-5" job, or did they?  Finally, instead of supporting the sport in it's most fragile state ever, right when it needs him, Stoner decides to quit. And as if a simple message of departure wouldn't be shocking enough for fans and entities, he decided to deliver it quite bitterly (and still does it). ...why? ...and for what? ...to beat his chest like Tarzan? Really, wasn't there another way to show disapointment? Two examples: Troy Bayliss and Randy Renfrow. As far as true "big heart" racers and full-on dedication goes, I don't think it gets much better than those two. If we have to compare, yes, Stoner is a quitter. He's mentaly unfit for this level of the sport. I wish Stoner happiness and fortune in whatever he chooses as next profession but, really, maybe he wouldn't loose anything by looking up on the career/story of those two guys. |
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Fair points all, I just credit Casey with being open and honest. He's always
admitted to his own mistakes and doesn't dodge questions about the mistakes of others. I prefer the honesty to a politically correct P.R. machine 'line', like you get in so many forms of public life these days. I doubt he's burned bridges, as I get the impression his team, and factory actually enjoy working with him. One gets the impression that working with the likes of Lorenzo, or Lewis Hamilton, while providing great success, doesn't necessarily engender a love for the person. Rossi said himself, in his biography, that the decision to leave Honda was due mainly because they didn't know how to have fun; they didn't celebrate their success, merely expected it week in, week out. I don't see Casey stating his reasons for leaving as any different from Rossi's statements of his reasons for leaving Honda, or Yamaha for that matter. Like you said, Rossi's staying on for HIS reasons. They are not for the needs of the sport. Having said that, him just being Valentino Rossi is always good for the sport. The MotoGP lifestyle is what it is. Within it's rules Casey wasn't gifted the privilege he enjoys, he earned it. He gave Ducati their first and only world championship, he's wrested the championship back to Honda, but he isn't, and has never been the playboy type. His life, his decision. Nice for him to honestly explain the reasons why, I think. I don't live that lifestyle, I can't imagine what it would be like. I can only respect the decisions of the people that do live that life. Having said all this, your passion for MotoGP is obvious, and I wonder how anyone could not love it too. People whinged it was boring when Doohan was winning consecutive titles every year, yet loved it when Rossi was doing the same: I see these two cases as fundamentally the same. People will always see things differently. The differences are what makes life interesting. Last edited by TICTOC; 11 August 12 at 02:28. |
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Casey Stoner has been racing in Europe since he was 14 years old. Both he and his parents have sacrificed a lot to get where he is today and have copped a lot of poop along the way. This has happened to a few Australian racers who go to Europe to race and upset the European apple cart.
How can you say Stoner is a quitter yet Rossi move to quit Ducati and go Back to Yamaha is applauded. this is the sort of poop that has annoyed him and had to fight his whole career. He just wants to come home, he has had enough of touring the circuits and the bullshit that goes with it. Casey Stoner won the world championship on a Ducati passed it on to Rossi who failed to do anything and constantly blamed the bike for not being up to scratch. Now he is applauded for jumping ship and moving back to Yamaha. The move to Yamaha for Rossi maybe good but I don't think it will be good for the sport and will probably reduce the field again to only 2 manufactures . The way Dorna are running Moto GP and the direction they are taking it, it will be dead in a few years. Last edited by CX650; 11 August 12 at 12:04. Reason: norty wurdz |
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The reason he's retiring from MotoGP is because he wants to see more of his family, which is something I respect him for immensely. He's already achieved what he wanted to do in MotoGP, he won 2 World Championships and not only proved he can be the best in the world, but also proved he isn't a one trick pony It's simply unfair to slag Stoner as a "quitter" and then praise Rossi... The way Rossi has been acting the last few years has been appauling, always blaming something else but never himself and yet he is regarded as a hero. Sure that may have been true years ago but now he's just turned into a spoilt brat  "WAAAAAHH!!! MY BIKE ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH GIVE ME A BETTER ONE NOW!!!" Goes to Ducati. "WAAAAAH!!! I WANT MY YAMAHA BACK THIS BIKE ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH!!"
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 )I'll start by saying that I've never seen anyone riding like him (those who didn't, see him live on track and you'll understand) and, most of all, I was a huge admirer of his personality during all of his career, from 125cc to the Ducati days. He seemed that honest good guy "pure" and "naive" (rare to find in the sport) that hadn't gone corrupted. A bit like the shy guy in the class that you can not help but simpathize with. I can understand then why many fans like him, and follow him like he's the second coming, more than the riding skills, he has that allure. The problem is... he's detached from reality, like living in a virtual reality, an all different dimension. Being honest is all fine and good but, on his position, only so long as you have complete sense and notion of the words you're using and the things you say. He has been idiotic in many of his statements. You can't praise "openess" and "honesty" from a professional athlete that doesn't even have notion of the things around him, then states about things as much as he does. It's unprofessional, bortherline silly, to say the least. For instances, he stated that it doesn't make sense to be in GPs, if not racing anything that isn't a full-on, unlimited technology, factory prototype. (this is not 2002!) Then blaming DORNA for the poor state of the sport in recent years and the constant changes of specs, when those were -mind boggling- caused by the MSMA (you know, Honda and Yamaha, with Ducati bullied in the corner).  So lets see... The ultra hi-tech bike that Stoner rides and loves so much costs 9 million euros(!) to LEASE for one single season (no other way). A privateer team pays that astronomical sum, eff knows how, through extremely difficult sponsorship, and the bikes are returned to the factory to be crushed, on seasons end. It's ridiculous. It will lead the sport to an end very soon. There is no money. Sponsors are lacking, privateer teams can't keep with this. Even Ducati can't keep up, because Honda and Yamaha can outperform their rival(s) any way they like, they have unlimited resources. They own the book of rules and can change it whenever they want to keep the game at their favour (why BMW and Aprilia don't enter the show, and why Suzuki and Kawasaki left). Yet, Stoner ignores this (unaware? ...but how could he be?) and indirectly defends it. Blaming DORNA, blaming the pit-walk full of brollydollies, marketing hospitalities and outsiders that, unfortunately, are the only short-term side solution, to satisfy sponsors, and pay for all the things that he sees on track. So we've been watching the sport, year after year, becoming like the real world out there, i.e, living beyond its capacities. And the world champ says that they must keep on wearing armani, when there isn't money to buy jeans, and that's one reason (among others) why he leaves, because he doesn't like where it's heading...  *mind blowing*Maybe he should read about the production-racers, the pittyfull and lowly basic privateer race-bikes he dislikes so much that were BOUGHT from factories and modified by the teams, not just the factories. They saved the GPs in the '70s and well onto the late '80s, in dark times just like as these. Maybe he should count with the fingers of his hands the decreasing number of factory prototypes on the grid, then try to understand why the CRT's where introduced (as flawed as those are). Quote:
Doohan was all agression, all ambition, all business and little joy. Effective but blunt, almost bitter. Rossi was (and is) the anti-hero and anti-cliche rider, never seen before, unconventional, a revolution. Pure unadultered joy of racing or, to put it simple - fun. You may like him or you may not, but that is undeniable. I can only recall three riders like Rossi in my whole life - Barry Sheene, Kevin Schwantz and Marco Simoncelli. Enough said.
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that's what they get when trying to change a Ducati into a Yamaha. Ehhhh... ahhh... de bike, she ahhh... is farked...
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Eish! All these comments about feeling sorry for Rossi and how he's going to get his ass handed to him... *face palm*. Has everyone forgotten how much Rossi enjoys a serious challenge???? Look at what he did on the Yamaha when he first got there. Won his first race on it even though it was an inferior machine to the Honda, beating Biaggi on the Honda after he'd complained that the Yamaha was too slow. So naaaah. Don't feel Sorry for him. We should all be excited at the prospect of seeing him on a competitive machine again. So what if Lorenzo "whips his ass" for a few races. Rossi is VERY strong mentally.
My prediction: Rossi will rise to the challenge. He might be "beaten" by Lorenzo for a little while until he's absolutely comfortable on the Yamaha again. But once that happens you can be damn sure to see him on the podium again. Rossi has never lost the will to win... |
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...meanwhile, Dovizioso is set to replace Rossi:
"Andrea Dovizioso agreed to take the factory Ducati seat vacated by Rossi's departure for Yamaha. His signature, it appears, was subject to certain conditions, though. According to reports in the Italian media, Dovizioso demanded guarantees of support and development from Audi before putting pen to paper. Italian TV station Mediaset is now reporting that Dovizioso has now received those guarantees, and has signed a two-year deal to ride for Ducati in 2013 and 2014." http://www.motomatters.com/news/2012...l_with_du.html |
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With the guarantees from Audi to Dovizioso I hope Nicky has a 2013 worthy of the effort
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He's also the rider that got the most unfair treatment in GPs that I can remember. After being WC in 2006, Honda/HRC instead built the new bike around pigmy Pedrosa (the power of Repsol)... Nicky never got a propper bike to fit him ever since and all of its justified complaints back then gone into deaf hears. Makes one wonder how he would have done with a Yamaha in those days (even now), eh?
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The Ducati engine (because it's the engine, not the chassis the main problem for Rossi) prefers an aggressive and dirty driving style, just like Stoner has, while Dovi and Rossi are too "clean", perfect for Yamaha. I'd rather prefer Crutchlow on Ducati. If you give this year's Ducati to Stoner now, as it is, for the rest of the season, he would win most of the next races, and not because he's a better rider than Rossi, but just because he's the perfect rider for the Ducati. |
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He was an important piece in the development and representation for Honda's 250cc GP bike for a number of years (thought to be then the "next Rossi"), he's no stranger to development and, most of all, he knows when to be silent and patient (when needed) while being the "top of the spear" -very professional- something that will be needed. ...check the reaction of Crutchlow after the announcement of Dovizioso's contract offer, to see the complete opposite.... There will be less pressure and hopes over him (if he fails, it was expected from such a bad racebike, and if he does better than Rossi he'll have fame and glory on him, plus the big bucks of the contract). Notice that Ducati will no longer have the development "frozen" by the pending Audi deal (now consumed), as they have had since around past December, as estimated. Most of all, I believe Ducati will want, at all costs, to clean face and shrug off the embarassment of the "pig of a bike" label, placed on their Desmosedici since forever, for a matter of reputation, although it might happen gradually, not instantly (as we would all wish!). I think Audi will help (force?) to change things, money-wise and resources-wise, in Ducati's Reparto Corse, something that was always missing against japanese rivals (the Honda Racing department -aka HRC- is bigger than the whole Ducati house!). Last edited by DucFreak; 17 August 12 at 11:30. Reason: ...spelling (?) |
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The "Desmodromic" engine, is the trademark of Ducati, and I don't think Audi will force to change this; it's like if they force Lamborghini to make a Reventòn 1.9TDI.... And knowing how they think about the "preservation" of the identity of the brands they own, this will never happen (I hope.....). Through the years, I learnt this about the MotoGP bikes: - Ducati needs to be dominated; needs a rider who "forces" her, so the Australian*British riders are perfect - Yamaha needs gentle and clean riders; not sure (because we will never see it), but probably Stoner would fail on a Yamaha just like Rossi did on the Ducati - Honda is the most balanced bike; if you're fast, doesn't matter your style, you can at least fight for the podium. |
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No matter what Stoner might say about "pride" and "riding like it wants to be ridden", you will still have Capirossi, Bayliss, Hodgson, Xaus, Checa, Gibernau, Barros, Elias, Kallio, Guintoli, DePuniet, Melandri and Rossi (Hayden wouldn't ever speak against it, I guess), among other "victims" (and others to come), to tell him that he should quit the looney pills, that the bike is a handfull, when no other race bike out there is as much - a major advantage for the rivals. The Desmosedici was always a troubled machine, everybody who rode it -any of its iterations- always told Ducati so (there are already jokes around invited riders jumping from it whispering "che pezzo di merda"). It's a stubborn mindset from the factory that already exhisted very firmly in the Fogarty WSBK days. The D16 will always be a troubled machine so long as they keep with this design and, especially, that mindset. Think about this... the japanese factories have been there for over 50 years, have about 30 years of refinments on the "double-sparr" chassis (deltabox type), from materials to designs, etc, etc. Then they make endless experiences with engine configurations/specs to choose from, they have race departments with sections just for that. They also always design their race bikes as one package right from the start, all things built to fit and work together while still in the drawing paper (or PC software). Have a look at the RCV211v 990 of the mid noughties. It's a marvel of engineering, anyway you look at it. Not a lego of experimental parts over old ones, like the Desmosedici has been for ages. ...Ducati simply joined the party with what they knew, not because of tradition. They gambled with what is essentially a "double L-twin" engine project in 2002, with Verlicchi trellis frames tailor made, to fit the engine they had already built. Like a "mega-SBK-ducati". We've seen it through the years with "Screamer" or "Twin Pulse" (big-bang) firing order, with the trellis frame, the monocoque frames or, now, the double-sparr "deltabox" type but.... still goes like an evolution from that initial one (single injectors in 2012! LOL). And that wasn't exactly a good racer, was it? You develop your machine according to the rules you're racing at (spec tyres, electronics, engine usage limits). That's what Ducati have to do, not the riders. You can do like Stoner says (adapt to the violence of the bike, ride it like it wants, etc, yata yata) but even if the Ducati rider does that, he'll still have his arse easily handed by any other rider of similar skill on a Honda or a Yamaha... it is as it is. A loose example - you can race a brutal musclecar against a lighter/nimble -but still potent- sportscar of same era. It can be menacing in the right hands, but I think you understand how it will end in the race results for most race drivers of same given skill, when the various type of corners keep coming to you, weekend after weekend... Sorry for the long post (much more could be said) but, I guess, my nickname will pratically say everything. For me, its absolutely gutting to look at the Ducatis in MotoGP, for almost 10 years now, struggling with visible issues that represent the exact opposite of what made (and still makes) Ducati bikes famous and cherished among the Ducatisti - the sweet and confident cornering machines that did not aim at top-speeds and "salt-lake" aerodinamics, nor pogo-riding. If tradition matters at all in racing, then their MotoGP project is an embarassment for the Ducati name. Time to redo it, IMHO. Last edited by DucFreak; 17 August 12 at 18:21. |
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Don't worry for the lenght of the post, is always good to have a talk with competent people as you are. And, yes, from your nickname I had the suspect you could know "something" about this subject
 .Just I'd not put Bayliss among the "victims". The problems he had with the Ducati MotoGP were more psychologic than due to the bike: his mind was constantly at his real love, the SBK, and he never liked the MGP environment. I think we all remember what he did at Valencia 2006, racing "una tantum". For Capirossi, well, he could even fight for the championship with that bike, but in the last years, I think that even with an official Honda he couldn't do much more than with the Ducati Pramac. Thanks God, Checa and Guintoli found their way to be competitive with the SBK Ducati, which is the opposite of the Desmosedici; I think Rossi could do great things with Ducati in SBK. |
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Bend it like Loris!!! I'm a huge fan too. The whole family is. Mum always calls
him, 'The Lovely Loris'. A real gentleman of the sport, and terribly underrated. Bayliss won in Valencia, Loris second for a Ducati one two. Rossi fell off and remounted, adding tension as he moved back up through the field, but ultimately Hayden took the championship. Not much more you can pack into one race weekend, methinks. Great days. |
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Nice pic, Cam!
Power-sliding, smoking and fire breathing machines from hell. The early 990cc MotoGP years got to be some of the best of modern motorcycle racing. It didn't matter who won, as there was just so much to see during all race, whatever position the riders were, or corner they were at. Some more from the "horse whisperers" of the time (hehe): Notice the early version of traction control kicking in the Ducati (sound denounces it) but still leaving a nice rear tyre rubber line on the track exit, while the factory RCV weren't using it at full strenght most of the time (actually seems off in Hayden's bike there, second bike sliding in the video). They must have played a lot of GPL back then! HEHE |
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As the top comment says: best powerslide EVER!!!
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for a F1 mod2012 i think to vale and while i was painting i thought to a missing one...
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29 August 12, 09:29
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: England
Age: 54
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