Finland SS1 - Revised by Roger

[System]

This is a very much a BETA track. Work in progress, is uploaded due to the file size preventing it hitting the forum for testing. It has a few errors - I don't need telling!

Finland SS1, but not as we know it Jim. Width & length scaled @ 80%, so it is narrower and shorter. But it is mirrored from the start and also mirroed/copied - you then drive the original track reversed and mirrored.

Length will be approx. 160% of the original, so approx. 7-8km. Enjoy

[System]

Version 1.00 of "Finland SS1 - Revised" is uploaded. You can view the download page for it here

[RTS013]

Downloading...

[ppi]

Downloading...sounds promising :wave:

[ppi]

This track is very nice and long! I like long stages and I didn't realise during the run that this is modded Fin 1st stage

I did my 1st run with Triumph TR3A 4:57.21

Narrow roads makes racing even more exciting :wave:

Great job Roger!

[Florenzo]

WUAH!! VERY nice track. I like it very much.
Also the heli-cam in the replay is nice :wave:

Swiss 1 would be also nice for this kind of mod - narrow and downhill

[ppi]

Hi all! Come to GameSpy to test the new track pls :wave:

Hurry up

[Roger]

Ye gods you guys were quick! I just took the TR out for a quick spin and come back to comments already!

Originally Posted by Florenzo

WUAH!! VERY nice track. I like it very much.
Also the heli-cam in the replay is nice :wave:

Swiss 1 would be also nice for this kind of mod - narrow and downhill

Funny you should say that I was thinking exactly that. :wave:

[Dan]

reinstalling the game now just to try this

[RTS013]

Great job there! Would be fantastic to see even longer ones, with several tracks joined together...

Wounderful to see what a narrow road is doing to the sence of speed too

[Dan]

Originally Posted by RTS013

wounderful to see what a narrow road is doing to the sence of speed too

yep.. I've just been playing it with stock cars and it feels a lot faster for being that bit narrower

nice one Roger

[st]

Great work Roger.
The stage being narrowed make it feel much more realistic.

[Roger]

Anyone notice that by changing the x & y scale only ANY elevation change/bump is more pronounced? I guess that would make Switz SS1 VERY steep.

[BlaBla]

:elephant: :bowdown: :woohoo:

Do I have to say more?

[ppi]

Alpine FTC. Ken's physics. 4:10.01

No replay included. Just to get an idea how long the stage is.

[Ollo]

Great stuff Roger! Really really great! I am very exited about this

[ShadowRally]

this stage is great... I was using the TireTeams physics and my 300hp awd saab.... without the stage notes it felt like you were speeding your daily driver through the back roads. The stage is wonderful unless you leave the road (youll get stuck on a tree and reset into space). This makes for a more realistic experience cause you are forced to keep it on the road or you will end up dead... as in real life.

[kiplali]

Brilliant job, well done Roger

The narrow roads are more realistic. Amazing the difference a 20% reduction makes.


Kiplali

[Midi]

Yep great work.
And that 20% really feels more realistic and better
I think there could be some low jumps, there wasn't now any jumps

There's some nice bugs

[richard]

Downloading now.

:wave:

l have tried to have a flying camera.

l have said

"camera attach yourself to that line and follow it"

"camera follow that line"

"camera are you going to follow that line, or what" :confused:

"camera get following that line right now" :OMG:

"camera if you don't follow that line you are all going to die"



(helps if you are mad)


How did you do it Roger?

Still downloading

Richard

[Roger]

I too tried threatening cameras with a horrible & painful death - to no avail

I have no heli-cam I do have a target camera locatd high above the track and it pans with the car.

BUT - You can do a Heli-Cam in the Camera.txt for the car cameras

As you know, if there is not a track camera to hand the replay picks up a random car camera. So, make one of those overhead and looking at the car - instant Heli-Cam

[gram]

looks great , took me couple times before I went thru the stage without any mistakes (I cant drive without the pacenotes ), and the view of the camera at the start is pretty cool (except that part of the head )

[Imagine]

Finally-sounding great :wave:
need to d/l this

Thx,Roger

i hope that we are gonna get that switz 1 soon too

[Ralph_B]

Thanks for this phantasic work. This reflects much more the character of the finish gravel roads than the highwaylike roads of the default stage.
And damned, I didn't know, that a spectator can be massive as a rock! Crashed my Alpine completely by hitting one of those curios people ! And even the yellow 3d-grass now is like a beton-wall!
Ah, don't take that serious, I was just joking. Of course I know it is a beta and some things will be improved. Great work at all and I really hope, one day this will be a great addition to the realmod!

Greetings,
Ralph.B (member of TheTireTeam) :wave:

[Roger]

I'm working on the spectators! I have made them as collision objects, but then they don't face the camera. So, I am now making an invisible collision box around them, so that they look right. That means if you hit one, you will biff the car - trouble is the spectator does not go flying . I think this is the best compromise as visually it is best and you still have to thread through spectators.

[richard]

You have done a great job on that stage. Well done.
You sort of know the stage, but then you don't. Took me several goes before l got to the end.

Richard

[Imagine]

Originally Posted by richard

Took me several goes before l got to the end.

Richard

i still didn't get to the end -damn reset
the strangest thing for me in this beta is chekpoints marks-the way they are facing

[Roger]

He he

The checkpoints were one of the bugs.

I have fixed that, also the mirrored and flashing sponsors signs. Pace Notes are nearly done.

The re-set sets you back on track from some locations (but not from all - I can't fix that), also the rest may not be very close to where you crash either

A few new camera angles and it's not far off release.

[Ralph_B]

Nice to hear that - can't await it. But what's about the deadly 3d-grass and spectators, that kill your car when hitting?

Cheers,
Ralph :wave:

[Roger]

I'm a bit baffled by the grass. Any ideas which setting gets the effect? Maybe I will look into that again, although I have not concerned myself too much - what are you doing on the grass anyway?

Spectators are a development, but you still have to watch out for them :wave:

[LethalOatmeal]

I like the deadly grass. In real life you can't go and short cut through every grassy area at top speed and not expect it to feel like the main road. There is usually lots of hidden rocks, holes, ditches and other stuff that will instantly and unexpectedly make you crash.

Same thing for snow banks in Sweden. In real like you can't short cut through deep snow, unless the surface underneath is road like, and the snow is extremely dry and powdery.

[Ralph_B]

Originally Posted by Roger

I'm a bit baffled by the grass. Any ideas which setting gets the effect? Maybe I will look into that again, although I have not concerned myself too much - what are you doing on the grass anyway?

I noticed this destructive effect when spinning out into this yellow field which outside is modeled like 3d-grass. In the default stage there is something like a small ditch and worse you do a role, but in the narrowed stage it was like hitting a beton wall. I generally noticed a heavy increase of damage, when hitting anything of the tracksideobjects. Ok, have to say, that I've set a lower damagelevel for all of my cars (0.4; 6.0). But this wasn't a problem at the default tracks - only a little more realistic. But in the overworked every small touch ends up in a completely damaged car, sometimes even sticking in the hitted object.

Greetings,
Ralph

[cjl9]

What can I say?

Thank you very much indeed. I'd love it if all the stages were this long and narrow (or REALLY long like real stages).

This stage is GREAT. In the Amazon it took me five goes to get to the end.

Woo hoo!

[Roger]

There WILL be more This is so much easier than building from scratch - the actual effort versus the gain in tracks is very worthwhile.

[Ollo]

Originally Posted by Roger

There WILL be more

:party:

Any plans on mixing different stages?

[Roger]

Maybe - it's certainly something to look into.

[BlaBla]

please if you do a finland stage again, please some big high speed jumps, missed that, but the rest of it is really so great .
saw the monte in TV, imagine we will have that for rally-trophy, these asphalt tracks with little snow parts(or better ice, which you cant see) . Hope we will get that in some time, would be so great.

[ShadowRally]

Am I the only one sticking to the trees? :wave:

[Roger]

Nope

TBH - I am unsure what caused that. I have a vague idea I might try, otherwise - stumped.

[tare30]

I really like the stage

Most RT stages would be better if they were scaled down to 80% of the original - width of the road is much more real and one can really feel the speed.

I wonder if it could be possible to make a mod that disables the reset effect once and for all... :confused: In real rally your car sure as hell doesn't "teleport" from the ditch to the road

IMHO the roads of original stages could be more unforgiving if your line goes too wide - keeping that in mind, the bugs of this stage really don't bother me

[Roger]

Hi - tare30

I think you may like this thread

http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1312

Part of the unforgiving bit is in the way tyres behave off surface

[System]

Version 1.02 of "Finland SS1 - Revised" is uploaded. You can view the download page for it here

[motohd]

... is Grrreat !!

Hey, if you stick up'n a tree ya prob. out of the rally -> to the hospital ?

Keep on xtending, reverting, mirroring, bolting etc the tracks !


Morty

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Idea : Connect the org.tracks with a 5-10 sec. flat out knuckle-white humpedy-dumpety straight... ... over crest... into 5 :arrow: careful.. CRASH !! -> hospital

[TVS]

I must admit that I dont really like that killergrass... havent you guys ever taken a corner a bit too fast and spinned out? One most annoying was that wery tight right->I pulled the handbrake and right after that slammed the brakes->the car stopped but tha rear wheels were on da grass->5secs of revving up on 2nd, and then reset.(RWD car, of course) Not funny . Other that that: AWESOME, WE WANT MORE, WE WANT MORE :woohoo:
Keep up the good work, and pleez, make some, even just redicilously low, traction to the grass. Just that we could get off there and back to the road :wave:

[R-Rosengren]

is it really that good? maybe i should download it anyway..
weel, i will, and i will drive it with the new Escort Mk2 RS1800 made by st :p

[YorT]

Just loaded this track again and what an unbelivable and enjoyable ride I had.

Wondering if and when it will be completed??

Can't wait for the final release.

[Zieman]

***BUMP***

Originally Posted by YorT

Wondering if and when it will be completed??

Can't wait for the final release.

Any chance of this happening? :wave:

[YorT]

Watch Out for the peeee........... !!!!!!

Never mind.....:slap: