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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Skopje,Macedonia
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Awesome race! Really gr8, really fun
Started in 11th I think. Made a gr8 start moved to the right a bit, a vette bumped me a bit but no worries. As we are going for T1 I pass an another car, but then immediately braking. As I started to brake I noticed in the mirrors someone coming fast behind me, possibly the car I passed. So I release the brake just a bit and continue braking. Unfortunately, I and slownlow spun the two cars infront, blocking the road:cry: As everyone banged up, luckily with no damage I continued, now 13th. Going thru lap 1 saw a saleen and a lister in the wall, now 11th. Going thru the starting line for lap 2 I use the same braking point as the Lister infront and I get punted by a Saleen and into the wall, causing no front lights and a rear puncture.Tried to drive it to the pits but at the swimming pool I couldn't turn the car and the car jumped into the air, did some acrobatics and into the marina. No online reset key meant race over. Great. I knew I had speed and a good race pace and setup but it ended so early, no post race thread existed
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Join Date: May 2006
Age: 44
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I too had an early bath, ending up in the water. Before that I'd managed to pick up a puncture, spin at least twice.... and sit in the queue waiting to get around accidents at least twice.
Monza in the rain will be a doddle compared to that :roflmao: regards, Sludgey |
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retired
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: retired land
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Hey Lowndes,
That was me in the Saleen who punted you. I have no excuse, i just fell asleep by the time i realised i should be braking it was too late :cry: I was gonna stop an wait but figured that would cause another accident, and it looked like you could go on but i did'nt realise you picked up loads of damage. I apoligise totally for ruining your race. That is the last thing I would ever want to do.
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Skopje,Macedonia
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retired
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: retired land
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I'll do the results and replay early tomorrow. Can't look at a computer screen for one more minute or my eyes will pop out of my head :OMG:
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southampton UK
Age: 48
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Join Date: May 2006
Age: 44
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lisbon,Portugal
Age: 44
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Did i talked about fanetitis in pre race thread?well nothing more natural than the author explains the phenomeno:p.But before that i want to congratulate Jayblue for the win and for the pole time it was amazing
.So overall ,it was a very good race with a hard track and hard conditions.Im happy with my performance,because i think that many guys went with the lister when they saw the times i was doing in the practice server and i think that they are happy with the setup too.So congrats podium and i want to say that we should be happy to have Jayblue racing with us.He is,for sure,one of the fastest guys in the gtr2 scene |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: West Mids, England
Age: 30
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Followed my best quali lap ever in a no grip race with probably my worst start ever, couldnt see the lights because of my mirror and i didn't know which key to use to switch the mirror off
so i just went when the laptimer started! Had been toggling through many different game view in an attempt to see the lights too and as a result of this totally bogged down on the line, but suprisingly arrived a T1 with just sidewinder infront of me :confused:Sidewinder set a good early pace but going down into mirabeau on lap 3 i think he lost it and spun into the hairpin. Skillfully though he guided the car to stop on the barrier and out of everyone's way worse was to come tho.... (seems my car had a strange attraction to karlos's car tonight...)Pitted in and repaired my damage, the pitcrew seemed very lazy as usual and took a few seconds to start refuelling rejoined 3rd, and on the next lap regained the lead. Somehow still had a 13 sec gap back to ezza now with fanes unfortunate demise. Drove on a few laps and saw karlos exitting the pits infront of me - the closing speed was huge so i gambled (correctly) that he would stay right. Unfortunately his car lagged left... i moved thinking i would miss him but found his real car right ahead ans smashed the rear of his car, sorry AGAIN karlos. This made my stint very difficult - no headlights. The swimming pool section was especially challenging. Gradually ezza closed in and with 40 secs left on the clock we crossed the line with the gap at 1 sec in it. All lined up for a showdown finalle the flag dropped a that one lap early. Had got my Senna on Mansell blocking moves all ready if i needed them ![]() Well done all who finished and especially mc on 3rd Lastly a special thanks to fane on the setup - it was brilliant and suited my style so well. Thanks! Last edited by jayblue; 23 June 07 at 20:48. |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: not far from Road Atlanta
Age: 64
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I nominate me for the "how frikkin' dumb can one man be" award
![]() towards the end of quali I leave my room for sec...I come back in and everything on the screen is frozen...my superior intelligence immediately responds with.."oh no. lost connection and the race is about to start"..I best log back in...so .I leave the event and well,,ya'll know the rest....My daddy used to tell me all the time,"Son, if you're gonna be dumb, you'll need to be tuff"............I get the feeling I just was not meant to race Monaco in the dark ![]() ![]() Congrats to the podium guys...had to have been a hard drive so fast in the dark... Last edited by Jack Stand; 23 June 07 at 20:49. |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 37
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qualified i think 7th or 8th.
after 19 laps went in the pits in 5th pos. left the pits in 7th and after 2 turn the image froze. i don't know what happened, but pushed than the switch off button of the comp immy, as i was scared that my car was just blocked in the middle of track. really a pity because it was a nice race till then.... |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Houston, TX USA
Age: 41
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Qualified where I thought, had a conservative start and then got slammed in turn 1 and hit the car in front of me. Nose was f'd up... no front grip. Pitted to repair. Came back out. On my out lap I was flat out of the tunnel and through chicane... someone dropped anchor right in the middle of the track for no apparent reason... didn't think that people would brake for that. Either could hit him or take a chance with the curb. Curb won. Flew into the bay, ended my day.
Pretty much sucked, but not surprised. Replay will tell the tale, but everyone expected it to happen. Incredible pole lap by JayBlue. Congrats to the podiums and everyone who made it through turn 1. My next race will be Estoril - will be on holiday next weekend through the following one. |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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After a week of trying like a maniac to get a 127 and failing,about a 3rd of the way into qual i finally manage a 1:27.9xx which gets me 4th for the start,really pleased with that,and also pleased Jay made my prophecy of some kind of high 1:26 being on pole
,i got a decent start,but had to back right off as brother Fane in front of me didnt make a good start at all,very unFane'esque :p ,anyway the front 4 i was mainly involved with at the start all crept gently round turn one and on our way all safe and clean,i could hold the pace fine early in the stint and if it was anywhere other than monaco,maybe a stab at passing Fane for 3rd could have been on ,,it didnt matter though,as a few laps later someone up front spun out and put Fane 2nd and me 3rd,nice chasing still going on with Fane,we came to lap wrexer and Fane got through nicely and away,i thought i was going to get through good as well,but i think i maybe rushed it a bit,and felt like i had wrexer stuck to me a bit :confused: ,sorry for that wrexer,not really your fault at all there m8,a lap or 2 later i done my own terrible spin at turn one and dropped from 3rd to 5th ,i caught up to a struggling and damaged Squalo in 4th,he let me pass him without a fight,many thanks for that ,the demise of someone ahead gave me a finish of 3rd place,i couldnt believe my eyes when i read the pitboard for that ,overall very happy with this round at MonacoCongratulations to Jay on fine win,but as you lapped me i saw how close the Ezza was chasing for a good 2nd,and to me!! :p,clattered my G2 vette home in 3rd Finally the thank you to Karlos for setting us up with another hard challenge. |
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Donated
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Age: 28
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My race was a pretty eventful one although short lived. I apologize in advance if i had a detrimental effect on anyones race.
I got a blast of a start off the line from third and as a result I got P1 coming into Sainte Devote when I passed Fane and Jayblue. Great I thought to myself thats what I needed to do if I was to stand any chance of winning this race on a 2 stop strategy. My race then turned into a disaster on lap two coming into the Grand Hotel Hairpin. I touched the outside wall on the previous turn spinning me 180. I waited for a gap in the traffic to spin it around but that didn't work and i ended up ruining a few people's races . I soon picked myself up and started chasing after Sludgey. He touched the inside wall in the swimming pool complex and spun right in front of me and there was not much i could do about hitting him. After that I was chasing down GearChange, but when i caught him it was a repeat of what happened with Sludgey earlier. The only problem is I lost my headlights this time.Driving in the dark without headlights is bad enough with the visibility problems that come with it. What makes it worse is when some one really blows an engine leaving black smoke everywhere. It is near impossible to spot it and before you know it you have hit something. The first case of this was when wrexer blew his engine and i ended up plowing into him. At this stage I was hoping to get to the first stops alive. Well I thought he had blown his engine but alas he had not and he was trailing smoke badly. It proved to be my downfall out of the tunnel as with reduced visibility I could not see the chicane and had to guess where it was, but I guessed wrong and ended up in the harbour. After watching the laptimes the leaders produced during the race and reflecting on the laptimes i could do in a single stint I believe that the MC12 on a 2 stop strategy had a fighting chance of winning this race. Unfortunately I messed that up completely after a lap and a half. Congrats to Jayblue for the win, and Ezza, and McDanger for making the podium. |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: West Mids, England
Age: 30
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i knew that a 26 was possible but actually on THE lap i had 0.7 in first sector over my previous time of 27.3. So i was really looking for 26.6 ![]() Nice hotlap in the 550 fane BTW not usually your car of choice but a great time, maybe you can race in it later in season? Last edited by jayblue; 23 June 07 at 21:03. |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southampton, United Kingdom
Age: 40
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I decided not to go balls out qualifying as i predicted there would be crashes in the start so was happy to be back of the grid for once lol
. My race strategy was a good one and with Fanes setup with lowered rear pressures to 166 psi and softs all round the car was gripping well. From the start i took it easy and squeezed through the first corner pile up. Lap after lap was making places had a great little scrap only to go wide into turn 3/4 and spin.Also somewhere i think lap 4 or 5 i clipped the barrier into turn 1 and picked up a puncture. Limped all the way to the pits and got it changed and some repairs. Got going again and up to speed had JPM lose it behind me out of the tunnel as we both tried to avoid the wreckage of Berger (no yellow flags!!) i got lucky but had to dropped to 3rd for the swimming pool but jpm missed the apex (sorry if i suprised u jpm) and got launched into the sea. I kept on going getting out of the way of leaders thought i gave McDanger room but i got clipped on my rear which spun me. Tried to get the car round safely but leaders where passing by (again didnt see any waved yellows) i was a sitting duck as Burny cannoned into me and flipped me right over car now completely wrecked with smoking engine. Limped back to pits again got repaired and off again but as my engine was smoking so bad visibility was worse for anyone behind me so sorry guys . Few laps letter it went. Great race though and happy i didnt launch it in the sea like i had all practice lol roll on next race. Happy with 14th anyway
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lisbon,Portugal
Age: 44
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![]() Now seriously i felt so confortable in this track i decided to have a go in the 550.I didnt felt quicker in that lap but the true is that the car is very fast as we all now.I just forgot to put radiator to 3 so it was a smoking lap all the way
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southampton, United Kingdom
Age: 40
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Donated
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Age: 28
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: High Wycombe, UK
Age: 23
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Dam im so annoyed i missed this, I got dragged out to the supermarket at 6pm, we got back at...8.01pm, i was absolutely gutted..so sorry i missed it! See y'all at Monza!
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Larvik Norway
Age: 46
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Had a good qually for this one and did the best for me in this season in fact i think it was my best qually ever here at no-grip
BUT in the first turn i was hit from behind and i spun around and had to back out of the turn to let all the cars go by and there i was again dead last :cry:..... After that i pushed all that i dould and was gaining places all the time .:pWhen i took my first pit stop i found out that the game was showing me wrong fuel usage so even with 100l i couldnt make it in one stop so it was a2 stoper for me .But the race wasnt so bad after all so i ended up in 5ft. place . :roflmao:Congrats to the podium Jay.Ezza and McDanger ![]() McDanger takeing the G2 wictory :roflmao:
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Oxford
Age: 56
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Totally unsure of car choice for this race. Jumped in the Lister as it seemed smaller than the others. Never driven the car before so a big thanks to Fane for the setup
In qualifying just tried to get as low in 1.29's as possible. Qualified P15 which is about where I expected to be. Into the race and I was a bit slow off the line, managed to pick my way through the first corner incident and was still P15 going up the hill. After a couple of laps was running P10 through passing others that had come to grief. GearChange was hot on my heels. Tried not to worry about that pressure from behind and just concentrate on keeping it all together. We caught up with Geordie and for next few laps I tried to keep him on his toes while at the same time trying to keep Greg at bay. Was absolutely no where to pass. This track took more concentration than all the others put together (didn't even have a chance to grab a swig of my can). Greg lost it in the last corner which took the heat off. We lapped Karlos in the tunnel. Geordie finally made a mistake just before the tunnel next lap and I managed to squeeze by. Clear track, now to try and get some speed up. Karlos had got through as well and was pressuring me (he must have had an incident to be lapped, as he was all over me like a rash). Then, luckily for me, he clipped the barrier in last corner. Pressure off, running P7. Lap 14 in for my pitstop. Had decided early in week on my strategy. Early as possible for my stop so that I might be able to take advantage of any traffic queues on the track and close the gap before others pitted. I knew my med front and hard rears would last 24 laps so filled her up to the finish. Exited pits P8, which surprised me, thought I would have been further back. Was on my own now for quite a few laps until Oppis loomed large in my mirror. That livened me up a bit and I managed to pull away. Rest of race quite quiet really. About 10 minutes left I was running P4, 30 seconds behind P3 and a minute in front of P5. So then decided to settle for P4 and conserve my tyres, engine and fuel to get me to the finish line. Best finish I have had so well happy with that, especially from P15 on grid. Kept it clean (ish) which was my main concern. Well done to Jay Ezza and McD and to all the guys that turned up and raced Last edited by Steve_300ZX; 23 June 07 at 23:54. |
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southampton UK
Age: 48
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massive sorry to oppis for accusing him of shunting me out of the way on ventrilo
as it wasnt even him that done it.(me digs hole to hide in)![]() had a good cat and mouse with steve for a while but no way past. wrexer smoked the way for a while, which was very um awkward to drive behind. then after pitstop got a bit bored driving alone and forgot to brake for the first bend not safe enough to get car back to pits for repair ( although i did try ).was a fun race but would rather not race at night or in the rain. unlucky fernando, you deserve better finishes mate. |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Larvik Norway
Age: 46
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Perth, Australia
Age: 30
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Had very limited practice for this race and also very limited sleep so I didn't expect to do well at all this race. With the luck of the Irish on my side (stole it off Karlos :p) though it turned out to be a blast!
I was pretty happy with my time in Quali because it was a PB by a half second, even though it was only good for 10th. On the starts I normally use a manual clutch to get a good start but this time the grid was so tight I just dropped it in gear and squeezed the throttle to get off the line so I didn't run into anyone around me. Other people had different ideas though. I accelerated to keep pace with the car in front of me but not get right into their bumper, when I got a bump on my rear bumper from jammyozzy as he and Lowndes tried to go down the middle of the pack. jammyozzy made a 2nd attempt to get by but this time his car bounced of my side. Coming up to the first corner I left some space in front of me as the cars ahead were trying to go 4 wide into T1 When I saw the crash start I slammed on the brakes but it didn't slow me down much and I went flying by! Slownlow and Berger had slowed and taken to the left and all the crashing cars went to the right which allowed me to thread the needle and come out of T1 in P6. Somehow Squalo, who was right in the middle of the crash had popped out just in front of me.I then tried to settle into the race and keep out of trouble. With Sidewinder spinning at the hairpin we all moved up a spot. It looked like Jayblue had pulled a gap at the front on Fane who had McDanger and Squalo right behind him. At first they pulled away from me, but then I started to hunt down Squalo as my car was getting better with the tyres warming up and the fuel load going down. He seemed to be struggling a bit and bounced off the barrier on the 2nd last corner and into me a bit. Then going round the hairpin he was slow and wide so I just put my car in the inside to see if he would lift since it wasn't really a passing opportunity, but he did lift and let me by and for this I am very grateful. Did some nice fast laps on my own now, passed a spun McDanger on the exit of T1, now P3. The gap to Fane was smaller than I thought and as we got closer to the pit stop I managed to close it right down so that we entered the pits almost together. In the pits I elected to repair my damage (11secs worth) but still got out ahead of Fane who was mucking around with his fuel amount, up to P2! After the repairs and the fresh tyres my car felt great now, so I told myself to keep it clean and not touch the barriers for as long as possible. I managed to set a new fastest lap during this period of the race and I was pushing very hard trying to close the gap on Jayblue ahead and also keep Fane at bay behind. Came up to lap Karlos but he was holding his line and I didn't have enough speed or space to make a pass, accidentally gave him a nudge when we both braked a bit late for the corner after the fast chicane. Then luckily he messed up T1 a bit so I went by on the inside. Fane then unfortunately got taken out by Geordie who reversed at just the wrong moment. So this just left Jayblue and myself out in front. I kept pushing and pushing, almost like I would during qualifying, gradually working the gap down. Then just when I got him in my sights I got a bit carried away and smacked the inside barrier through the medium speed chicane with the right side of my car, I hit it so hard that it bounced me off to the other side where I smacked the left side of the car into the barrier. I thought it might be all over then, but my car was still ok. So I kept pushing and managed to get it down to a 1s gap just as we crossed the finish line for what should have been the final lap, however, the race finished with time still on the clock, not that I would have been able to pass anyway. Congrats to Jayblue for the win and McDanger for 3rd |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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First off Congrats to Jayblue on a great time.
For me this was a mixed bag of fortune :confused: Poor qualy session left me well down on grid in 18th spot. Got a good start though, made spots up. Had name tags on so spotted immediately trouble ahead in T1. Tiptoed round and found myself accelerating away in P12 A few laps later was up to P7. Was driving at good pace but staying off the barriers. which was main thing We where calling the race on vent so when something happened we where ready to take avoiding action I then got a shout from Greg that he and Steve where chasing me down A little mistake and my 5 sec gap was gone. Steve said earlier i was keeping him at bay for a few laps again enjoying challenge wheel spin and Steve was able to squeeze through. After that managed to bang up my Vette that i had to pit early to fix the damage lost over a minute so gameplan was to finish race and hope for as good a position as possible. Little incident with Fane, luckily no damage to him Last edited by Geordie055; 25 June 07 at 10:36. |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lisbon,Portugal
Age: 44
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Grabbing Nick words and i know that is too soon to talk about it,Monza in the rain will be much harder than monaco at night.I will wait for pre race thread to post my opinion.I forgot to congratulate Steve for his 4th place well done mate i hope u celebrate this time with champagne
I also forgot the usual thanks so to Karlos and Nogrip for a wonderful 1 hour race,Steve,Nick,MCDanger and some few more in the practice server and Nick,Gear Change and Gupster for pushing me at ventrilo,especially when i was behind Ezza,trying to catch him.I think that those words like "cmon Fernando push it" made the diference somehow.My engine blow was their fault ehehehehBtw a guide lap at monza can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-hfS-gUEM Im sure that almost everybody knows the track but this time will be diferent Last edited by fane; 24 June 07 at 11:45. |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: High Wycombe, UK
Age: 23
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I kinda like racing in the rain:p
What version of Monza is that Fane? I dont think ive seen the red iconcrete at turn 1 before. |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lisbon,Portugal
Age: 44
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southampton UK
Age: 48
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replay and results have been uploaded http://www.nogripracing.com/leagues/GTR2/
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: retired land
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Results - http://www.nogripracing.com/leagues/...sults/Season4/
Replay - http://www.nogripracing.com/leagues/GTR2/replays/S4/ My Race Once again, little or no practice this week. But somehow I managed to finish 7th, although I had a terrible race so I don't know how that happened. Got a good start from 17th, had to dive around Steve in front of me, and then was held up by cars ahead. Avoided most of the mess and the spun sidewinder16. Later I was behind lowndes, lost concentration and hit the back of his car really hard which effectivly ruined his race. Sortly after I lost the front of my car and had to do a pitstop for repairs. Came out a couple of laps down, fought back as I had nothing to loose, caught up to steve and got right on his bumper, but the game gave me a stop/go for cutting at the casino bend :cry: After the stop/go, I was just trying to put in laps. Unlapped myself from a few cars. Jay caught up to lap me but seemed to slow down and never make a move. I only got 1 blue flag, the rest of the time he was too far back for the marshalls to flag me. Eventually I made a mistake, but i think jay was driving my lines at this stage as he made the same mistake and hit me. Cant remember if he pitted or got by but anyway he was gone. Ezza caught up to lap me next and also didn't seem to want to make a passing move, again when i made a mistake he did also and hit me. He was close enought now for me to get blue flag warnings so I took a wide line into turn one to let him by. Fane had caught up a lot on Ezza at this stage and made no mistake about lapping me, I think he went round the outside at casino forcing me to have to slow down Met Jay again after my stop, I think we both got some lag just as we met as he appeared out of nowhere and then seemed to warp into the wall then appeard to be the other side of the road with no lights :confused: Carried on and 2 laps from the end I flipped the car on teh exit to the tunnel and ended up the wrong side of the barrier. Managed to drive back to the chicane and rejoin the track, but lost my lights in the process. Did the final 2 laps with no lights and was stunned to see I finished 7th after such terrible qualifying, an extra stop for repairs, a stop go and flipping the car. Regarding banning myself :roflmao: Not going to as it was a once in a lifetime incident. If i do it again next time out maybe I will force myself into a 1 race rest. Although if my eyes are still unhappy after the week off, I might just not race for the rest of the season anyway. |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Houston, TX USA
Age: 41
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After seeing the replay, maybe lowndes needs to revise his comments.
And Wrexer, I didn't miss the Apex, I avoided you as you braked for the chicane that is taken flat... didn't expect you to brake there. No worries...expected at monaco... but lowndes, take it easy next time at the start. Last edited by JPM; 25 June 07 at 02:06. |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 37
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southampton, United Kingdom
Age: 40
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![]() Real sorry besides it could of been worse just ask Sidewinder he couldnt even see the chicane due to my smoking engine - this race was a fun one though just a shame we all got battered lol:p |
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Skopje,Macedonia
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Houston, TX USA
Age: 41
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No... just don't outbrake yourself into turn 1. Have you seen the replay? Again, could have been avoided in an hour long race at Monaco. It was a great start for you up to the point where you hit Oppis and caused the pileup. There was no one around you...
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Metro Detroit
Age: 42
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I started 22nd and managed to do about 3 laps before retiring from a crash. I joined the server with less than 10 mins to qualify. I knew, I was not going to be able to qualify well as I had no chance to pratice so I just planned to do a few laps before the start. By the second lap as was in 13th position. I touched the wall twice, damaging the headlamps. Entering the tunnel, I had a blowout and limping when someone ran into me. Probably was not his fault. A slow car should not be there... The hit got me doing flips in the air. While I landed with the shiny side up, the engine would not start. I wonder if the car that hit me also ended his race.
I'm supprised that only 8 finished the race. Last edited by mberthia; 25 June 07 at 15:33. |
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Hallo mberthia,
i think i was the guy that crashed you in the tunnel. It was in the end of the tunnel and i have full speed. I see you very late, because it was after the right turn in the tunnel. It goes all so fast i have no chance for brake and i hit you with full speed. After that my race was over. I think that was not your fault and not my fault. That was unlucky for you and me. (hope you understand my bad german english). From my side there is no problem. see you in monza. |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Metro Detroit
Age: 42
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No problem Berger R. I was able to enjoy a hefeweizen sooner !
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