Season 5 - Event 8 - Daytona RC 20/10/ 2007 - Race Review

[KarlosDaJackal]

Results - http://www.nogripracing.com/leagues/....20_daytonarc/
Replay - http://www.nogripracing.com/leagues/...R8_Daytona.Vcr

[lowndes888]

Sh!t happens. A lot


Start from 5th, then pass sidewinder into t1 and a vette but the vette turns on my racing line wrecks my front aero a mas smacks the rear and on the end of the lap, entering T1 in lap 2 I go for the inside , start to brake, lockup aero damage didn't help

WHACK into the wall

Berger next time don't go into me you wrecked my front aero

[ICKE]

I CANT BELIEVE THIS ****!!!!

Two races and two times my engine goes. This is really starting to piss me off, because there is no valid reason for it either. To practise all week and then do 7 laps before it explodes (and I was just 1second behind leader), exactly after the same period of time as in Hockenheim. Maybe the game is just randomly picking a couple of technical failures for racers and there is nothing you or your racing style can do about it. What´s the point even trying to race....

This track was awful anyway, a lot of bugs. Sometimes the track surface would disappear and the cars warp around..And the timing was off as well, you would be 5-6seconds off the mark after 1st sector. I deleted it and will never touch it again haha!

[xanaxkamikaze]

Well I thought that qualifying started at 8 for 30 minutes and I got home at 8:15 because I got off work at 8... so DAMN!!!!! I guess I'll never be able to do a No Grip race ever again.

[cecil-swain]

for once i have stuff to say

Qualifying
set an average time, but was going 0.7s quicker (set to jump oppis) when, coming into the chicane, whack! jhoeckman rear ends me. still started 22nd.

Race
the second the green flag went, i immediately raced up the middle, only to find the rear of APEXTECH and i couldn't do anything. sorry, apex.

when i got going, i was a fair bit behind, but lap 2 around the hairpin after the pit exit, i find lowndes with a half damaged car, and i passed him.

drove around for a few laps until i whacked the barrier at the hairpin before you rejoin the oval, and i had to pit. rejoined in front of wrexer, then next corner i ran wide and let him through.

soon, i had oppis behind me and we had a good small battle. side by side going through the kink in the infield, bit of contact at the next hairpin. then after that hairpin, i twitched left and oppis spun me into the barrier and it wrecked my rear. don't worry oppis, not your fault, mate. coming round the banking before the chicane, the puncture i picked up put me in a spin, and then the physics of the game put me in a huge roll and i ended up on the other side of the barrier well away from the circuit.

timestamps coming soon.

[jayblue]

Quali on pole by some miracle as i was struggle for 41's most of the week. Only after fane gave me his setup did i see the error in my setup, i needed more coast for that tricky T1. Still suprised myself with a 40.0.

As for the race the start was ok, ICKE had a little look into T1 but didnt commit to it and me and him started to pull away. After a few laps his engine blew which was a real shame as i was looking forward to a good battle on the track with him. Berger had already gone from my standings table by now and slownlow made a mistake soon after handing 2nd to ezza. I had a reasonable gap to him but knew the Lister is lighter on fuel than the Vette so would need it later.

Pitted with a 10 sec lead, my lazy pitcrew took 5 secs to attach the refueling nozzle and left the pit with a 4 sec lead. After a few laps i made a bad mistake at the chicane trying to avoid a cut track notice, the car got out of shape - i corrected it twice but it snapped back again and threw me into the wall at 150mph. DNF Well done to big ben and ezza for successfully avoiding my wreckage, i think i should have esc sooner sorry.

The timing table had me in second on the first lap :confused: and was generally unreliable. At least the start seemed to go ok for all. I won't miss this track, TBH i was expecting a lot of close racing on it as a saving grace for its lack of technical challenge but instead i was left (by others unfortunate circumstance) out front and lost concentration.

At least some great battles are occuring in the mid pack, some big 4 way tussles good to watch guys!

ICKE i have to ask - what rev limit were you using, how long are you in the "red" in your gears for, how high do you rev on downshifts? As the vast majority of us never have engine reliability issues these are factors i would consider, the game doesnt cheat on car failures...

[ICKE]

My radiator opening was 4 and I wasnt driving too much in the red. My revs maxed in the oval before the first corner but I had no problems off-line when I did a 1 hour race. And I lowered the revs by 100 as I always do for the race.

I guess these things just happen. Really bad luck.

[lowndes888]

Originally Posted by jayblue

Quali on pole by some miracle as i was struggle for 41's most of the week. Only after fane gave me his setup did i see the error in my setup, i needed more coast for that tricky T1. Still suprised myself with a 40.0.

As for the race the start was ok, ICKE had a little look into T1 but didnt commit to it and me and him started to pull away. After a few laps his engine blew which was a real shame as i was looking forward to a good battle on the track with him. Berger had already gone from my standings table by now and slownlow made a mistake soon after handing 2nd to ezza. I had a reasonable gap to him but knew the Lister is lighter on fuel than the Vette so would need it later.

Pitted with a 10 sec lead, my lazy pitcrew took 5 secs to attach the refueling nozzle and left the pit with a 4 sec lead. After a few laps i made a bad mistake at the chicane trying to avoid a cut track notice, the car got out of shape - i corrected it twice but it snapped back again and threw me into the wall at 150mph. DNF Well done to big ben and ezza for successfully avoiding my wreckage, i think i should have esc sooner sorry.

The timing table had me in second on the first lap :confused: and was generally unreliable. At least the start seemed to go ok for all. I won't miss this track, TBH i was expecting a lot of close racing on it as a saving grace for its lack of technical challenge but instead i was left (by others unfortunate circumstance) out front and lost concentration.

At least some great battles are occuring in the mid pack, some big 4 way tussles good to watch guys!

ICKE i have to ask - what rev limit were you using, how long are you in the "red" in your gears for, how high do you rev on downshifts? As the vast majority of us never have engine reliability issues these are factors i would consider, the game doesnt cheat on car failures...

Well thats helpful to know: that I wasn't the only one that n00bed himself and DNFed

Or as what Germans would say: Sche***e:p

Roll on next one, I hate these dumb ovals

[ICKE]

I was really happy to be up there fighting for the win though, as short as the battle was, that's enough motivation for the future.

I guess these technical problems are a finnish thing or something. Happened a lot to Häkkinen, Räikkönen and now me as well.

[jayblue]

ICKE you have to run the revs at least 300rpm below max to be safe. I always use 400 lower and short shift a little too when you can. I have noticed that in the game the engine wears more if you leave your rev limit high EVEN if you don't use it all - ie 7000 max limit but shift at 6600. Better to set the limit low and use all the way to 6600 IMO.

[ICKE]

Thanks for the advice jayblue. Have to be more careful in the future.

[lowndes888]

Originally Posted by ICKE

Thanks for the advice jayblue. Have to be more careful in the future.

He's right, I've noticed that thing about the RPM's too

Ask fane, he's experienced in that:p

[sege]

My race was good and bad!:p
Q'd mid pack which is the best I can hope for, and got a clean(ish) start, which is what we all hope for!
pretty much the whole race for me was trying to chase down people and I didn't seem to have the speed, I think I mucked up the chicane more times than not.
The only real incidents for me were when I turned in on Gupster (sorry mate!) after he took me in T1 (was that the first lap? it all past in a daze!) later Kris tapped me going into T2(? the first tight 2nd gear righthanfer) and I spun and some people got through.
Then coming into my second pitstop I thought I might have made contact with the stationary behind my pit bay. I wasn't sure and couldn't see the name tag as the pit view had changed to the external one. Not sure if the was Digital or someone else but sorry to whomever (if i did make contact!).
Then going into the final lap with plenty of tyres and fuel to spare I recently taken Kris after he made a mistake at the chicane to take 6th place, surely my best finish at NG? (Kris your brake lights were flickering on and off on the oval sections? you might was to check the calibration of your pedals) ...and anyway I was catching poor oppis to lap him. Well actually I hadn't been making any ground on him over the last lap, but then into T1 I broke at my normal point, and seemed to fast forward into the back of him. It was one of the 'caught in the headlights' moments and I panicked, hesitated and then slammed into him, spinning us both. Not sure how it affected you oppis? I lost four places I think and just felt sick for the rest of the lap. Sorry about that mate

Phew it was intense too, Well done to Ezza and the podium guys, Thank Karlos and NoGrip and apologies to oppis.

[cecil-swain]

where's the rest? it's 9.30 ffs!

[sege]

Originally Posted by cecil-swain

where's the rest? it's 9.30 ffs!

watching the rugger?

[cecil-swain]

cant they watch the rugby and type at the same time? that's what i'm doing...

[Sidewinder16]

Well I had a dodgy pitboard for that race and the game decided to nuke my replay as well .

Managed to put the MC12 in 4th spot but the start like last time we were here was a disaster. The game decides to put the front of my car in contact with Berger's car thus it registers as a collision and i lose speed off the line. Into turn 1 Lowndes and jhoeckman pass me on the inside but jhoeckman soon looses a lot of speed and I could not see why leaving me not enough time to react. End result collision, aero damage, back to 26th, and the inevitable feeling of deja vu. It seems to be my luck on the first lap is non existant and more often than not I am having to fight my way from the back. Making my way out of the carnage I got hit by a late braking cecil in the last hairpin before the oval section.

The first stint went alright after that as i was helped by the speed advantage I had over others on the oval section. I eventually fought my way up to 5th before the first stop to emerge out 10th.

The second stint was a bit calmer except for the moment when I tried to pass Gupster into turn 1 on the inside. Under braking I misjudged my line and collided doors with him sending me into a big sideways slide. Somehow I manage to collect it ending up ahead of Gupster but Kristofer took full advantage. I need not have worried however as soon afterwards I had a significant speed advantage over him around the oval and afterwards I soon took fourth. A few laps later I came across Greg in his Corvette I tried following him for a few laps but when he pitted my tyres were shot so I took an early final stop. BuRnY and Ezza were so far ahead at this stage if I was to gain a further place I would need them to retire but no I could only finish third.

Well done to Ezza for the win and BuRnY for second.

[GearChange]

Originally Posted by ICKE

I CANT BELIEVE THIS ****!!!!

Two races and two times my engine goes. This is really starting to piss me off, because there is no valid reason for it either. To practise all week and then do 7 laps before it explodes (and I was just 1second behind leader), exactly after the same period of time as in Hockenheim. Maybe the game is just randomly picking a couple of technical failures for racers and there is nothing you or your racing style can do about it. What´s the point even trying to race....

This track was awful anyway, a lot of bugs. Sometimes the track surface would disappear and the cars warp around..And the timing was off as well, you would be 5-6seconds off the mark after 1st sector. I deleted it and will never touch it again haha!

the attrition of a track is not enforced until the actual race, offline races dont have the same affect as a online race. start your own online race to test before going to server to race to test everything if you want to be sure.

[big-ben-007]

Well I achieved my first goal which was to finish

Qualified 19th, I couldnt get any rear end grip in the vette and was wrangling around the track especially T1

Race 14th, started behind Apex which was fine untill he got hit from behind, went flying in the air and landed on me :roflmao:..........great start then.

Took a few positions on Lap 1 and 2, then on lap 3/4, I think McDanger went off track ahead of me, when he got back on I had to serve to avoid him and lost it and fell to 20th


From there on in it was a pretty uneventful race, just kept in my rythem and stayed out the way of the leaders, and avoid the leaders when they hit the wall :roflmao:

Was catching Karlos in the middle stint and thought I could catch him with a 2nd stop splash n' dash with only 10 mins to go, only to find Karlos parked up in front of me as I was leaving :p

Over-all as this my first race, I was pretty pleased and enjoyed myself heaps

[Sidewinder16]

Originally Posted by ICKE

I CANT BELIEVE THIS ****!!!!

Two races and two times my engine goes.

You really ought to watch your downshifting. I have been racing here since the end of Season 1 and have yet to have an engine let go on me so it is possible to manage these things over the whole race.

[ICKE]

Shifting is not the issue. I'll just fix the revs like jayblue told me, that should be it for me. So far I havent had problems this season (or in GTR2 as a whole) but these two races have been a real wake up call for me.

In Riverside I will attack even more than before. :p

[APEXTECHUSA]

Originally Posted by cecil-swain

for once i have stuff to say

Qualifying
set an average time, but was going 0.7s quicker (set to jump oppis) when, coming into the chicane, whack! jhoeckman rear ends me. still started 22nd.

Race
the second the green flag went, i immediately raced up the middle, only to find the rear of APEXTECH and i couldn't do anything. sorry, apex.

when i got going, i was a fair bit behind, but lap 2 around the hairpin after the pit exit, i find lowndes with a half damaged car, and i passed him.

drove around for a few laps until i whacked the barrier at the hairpin before you rejoin the oval, and i had to pit. rejoined in front of wrexer, then next corner i ran wide and let him through.

soon, i had oppis behind me and we had a good small battle. side by side going through the kink in the infield, bit of contact at the next hairpin. then after that hairpin, i twitched left and oppis spun me into the barrier and it wrecked my rear. don't worry oppis, not your fault, mate. coming round the banking before the chicane, the puncture i picked up put me in a spin, and then the physics of the game put me in a huge roll and i ended up on the other side of the barrier well away from the circuit.

timestamps coming soon.

ok no problem good luck next week p.s smoker had internet problems.

[Steve_300ZX]

Great race. Full report tomorrow. Probably the most enjoyable for racing I have had on NoGrip. Had been struggling all week to get to grips with this track. No sweat about you not waiting for me Digital, ('sorry, can't wait') I didn't need you too

[Kristofer]

Originally Posted by sege

Kris tapped me going into T2(? the first tight 2nd gear righthanfer) and I spun and some people got through.

When trying to pass you I went wide while braking if I remember correctly. Never actually knew we touched, I thought you locked up and spun by yourself. If I did however cause you to spin, then I apologize for that. Not my intention.

Originally Posted by sege

(Kris your brake lights were flickering on and off on the oval sections? you might was to check the calibration of your pedals)

Probably explains why my straight line speed sucked I had a problem with the wheel just before the race, did a reset but forgot to adjust the brake dead zone

[BuRnY]

qual 9th, race 2nd.

I had a great race, but it was a bit boring I'll give my full-report tomorrow.

[oppis]

Originally Posted by cecil-swain

soon, i had oppis behind me and we had a good small battle. side by side going through the kink in the infield, bit of contact at the next hairpin. then after that hairpin, i twitched left and oppis spun me into the barrier and it wrecked my rear. don't worry oppis, not your fault, mate. coming round the banking before the chicane, the puncture i picked up put me in a spin, and then the physics of the game put me in a huge roll and i ended up on the other side of the barrier well away from the circuit.

timestamps coming soon.

Sorry cecil but you was turning right into me and i was braking when you hit me (just watch the replay )
No problem Sege my race was over long before that

[fane]

Have a great fun in this race and thats what matters to me.I would like to see the server race replay and results please thank you .Congrats to Ezza
Thanks to Nogrip for another good race,to fane for the setup and all the guys at ventrilo for another good laugh session

[KarlosDaJackal]

Originally Posted by KarlosDaJackal

Results - http://www.nogripracing.com/leagues/....20_daytonarc/
Replay - http://www.nogripracing.com/leagues/...R8_Daytona.Vcr

Resuts and replay in the usual place.

My race, Started 11th, retired after 2nd stop finished 22nd, had a 100% clean race though

At 177, McDanger turned into the side of me on a straight, as he was boxed in between me and Burny, this slowed me down, and McDanger got past me and Burny. Later that lap at 230 I passed McDanger with some slipstream as we approached the upsidedown apextechusa (turn on crash recovery in advanced options mate :roflmao

At 270 I got a good view of Kristofer doing a triple somersault after a seemingly minor contact from Digital, This left me in 7th, but I lost it a the oval chicane and droped to 20th, at 588 a lapped jhoeckman rammed into the back of me but somehow i held it. He passed me later that lap but I just outbraked him into T1 again, replay showing me as 16th now.

Next lap he passed me but I realised he was a lap down so no need to fight him. At 924 passed a recovering oppis but at 962 sidewinder got me into the chicane so I let him by, but lost it at the exit, meaning rafnix got by also.

At 1420 conceded a place to bigben as once again i lost it exiting the oval chicane, took my pitstop that lap. At 1960 berger took my 14th place, at 2600 did my 2nd stop and narrowly avoided a stop/go for speeding. Then at 2780 my race ended, I just cliped the wall and the physics took over flipped me in the air and the engine died.

Spent the rest of the race watching lots of very good battles.

[Steve_300ZX]

That was well enjoyable

Was not enjoying practising during week as I could not get the infield right. Could not for the life of me hit an apex in the 2 hairpins. Quali 13th and was looking to just slide back down the field. But, it all seemed to came together for the race.

Start was ok and when things settled down was chasing Fane around. We caught up to Digital and then for some reason Fane's pace dropped a bit and he just sat riding shotgun, it seemed, to Digital. I had a couple of looks but felt it wiser just to try and hold station behind. Stayed like that for a couple of laps until Fane ran wide, I passed, then promptly entered the chicane wrong and ended up hitting the wall on the way out. This let Fane, Greg, Jack, Sege and Berger through. A couple of laps later someone had a coming together which allowed me to grab a couple of places back.

Went into my first stop on the heels of Fane and Digital, messed it up a bit by cutting my engine to early and missing my line. Came out P16 and ran this next stint basically not dropping to far behind them. I wasn't really gaining or losing time to them and thought the best way to pass would be in the pits, providing I had a good pit and outlap. Of which, thankfully, I had both. As I came back round, Digital was only just leaving his box and Fane was exiting the pits and I just managed to get by him with my warmer tyres into the second corner.

Game on. The whole of the last stint was a fight with Fane to the finish. I had to concentrate hard to make sure I kept it all together and keep my lines good through the infield. I think this stint of the race was the most enjoyable racing that I have had at NoGrip. Had a lot of pressure from Fane and my adrenelin was pumping. The last 2 laps were intense. A very 'ambitious' move by Fane into the first corner (timestamp 3695) could very nearly have taken us both out. I guess he was pumped up as well Into the last lap I outbroke him into the chicane and had the speed coming out, to charge for the line. I managed to hold on to my place and it was very close at the line. I see you had some problem Fane with your car just before the finish line when the nose of your car turned into the side of me. Luckily though it did not affect our race. Was a great battle mate I thoroughly enjoyed it

Congrats to Ezza, Burny and Sidewinder, well done guys.

[DigitAL]

Originally Posted by Steve_300ZX

We caught up to Digital and then for some reason Fane's pace dropped a bit and he just sat riding shotgun, it seemed, to Digital. I had a couple of looks but felt it wiser just to try and hold station behind. Stayed like that for a couple of laps until Fane ran wide, I passed, then promptly entered the chicane wrong and ended up hitting the wall on the way out.

How weird! :confused:

[fane]

It was you in the Lister Steve? I thought you were on the GT2: MC12 (Ayrton Senna skin) .Sorry for that tap at about 5 meters from the finish line im glad we were ok and could cross it

[Steve_300ZX]

Just noticed you have changed you picture to one of a Zed digital. I didn't know you were into them. Is that one you have wrecked or just a picture you have found?

[Steve_300ZX]

Originally Posted by fane

It was you in the Lister Steve? I thought you were on the GT2: MC12 (Ayrton Senna skin) .Sorry for that tap at about 5 meters from the finish line im glad we were ok and could cross it

I fancied a change. The MC12 felt horrible to drive, could not get any sort of setup for it, so decided to go with the Lister Will be jumping in a different car than my chosen one for the next race as well. The irony of the 'tap' was that if your car had stayed low instead of moving up the track we may have had a dead heat, it would have been that close I think

[McDanger]

I feel a bit disappointed,and a bit surprised Karlos chose to open his report with "McDanger turned in me on a straight",i just checked the replay of that incident that i remember well from the race,if there was a prize for the most innocuous and complete nothing bit of contact,i would maybe be eligible for it,as you said,i was being badly boxed in when i closed in on Burny who was wide on the exit,i really didnt know you were squeezing up there at my back right wing,actually my first thoughts were to force myself to far left,but there was no room there for another car,so avoided the back of him with a swerve to the right,causing me to lightly scratch your paintwork,no great loss of speed or anything else as far as i could see from the replay,and yes i also remember your breeze past on the oval,a situation i found myself in all race long really,a quickly knocked up poor slow setup,and constant adjusting and tweaking control sensitivities right up to the last seconds of warmup was not competitive for me at all,but i did have a good start and was feeling ok at this point,it all went down hill when i couldnt avoid the freshly landed Kristoffer Nielson from his spectacular flipping session just ahead after a punt from Digi,Karlos just made it past unscathed,i didnt,dropped a few places there,my next memory is a good duel with Gupster,i went for a move on a fast infield section turn,and i think it was decent opportunity for a pass,but there was contact just at the apex putting Gup to the grass,at the time i though he was put off in a much bigger way than he was,but he held a grass slide very well to get back on,but almost instantly after the contact i backed off totally with only one thought in mind to let Gups back ahead,we both ended up on the rough apron bit on the approach to the following turn and ended up side-by-side,i took a little nudge from Gup there putting me off again,although i can assure you m8,i had no intention to keep that place from you under those circumstances,anyway when i came back on,it was just in front of a battling little pack of cars,i dont think it was a hidden surprise kind of deal here at all,hence everyone made it past ok,but big ben didnt,sorry you lost it there,but do you really think i can take the blame for it? :confused:,there was the entire right side of the track clear to pass where everyone else did,i was deliberately staying left to allow that,yet you chose the spare 2 feet to my left,including the kerb and grass,and appeared to "keep your foot in".

My recent pc probs are not an excuse for my performance here,i was nowhere near the pace even before those probs,working now on getting my GTR2 feeling the way it did before and hopefully have a proper run out next meeting.

Sorry to Karlos for turning in on you on the straight,and sorry to ben for causing you to spin swerving to avoid me recovering,mostly sorry to Gups though for spoiling a nice bit of racing,thankfully you suffered very little there compared to me,which is how it should be in these incidents i think.

Thank you Karlos and NGR for letting me race here.

[KarlosDaJackal]

Originally Posted by McDanger

I feel a bit disappointed,and a bit surprised Karlos chose to open his report with "McDanger turned in me on a straight"

I just mentioned it as it was the first thing of interest that happened in my race, not a complaint

I know you would not have turned in on purpose.

[KarlosDaJackal]

Originally Posted by lowndes888

Sh!t happens. A lot


Start from 5th, then pass sidewinder into t1 and a vette but the vette turns on my racing line wrecks my front aero a mas smacks the rear and on the end of the lap, entering T1 in lap 2 I go for the inside , start to brake, lockup aero damage didn't help

WHACK into the wall

Berger next time don't go into me you wrecked my front aero

Lowndes,
This one was your fault. You and berger where side by side in turn1 and berger left you room on the inside without turning in on you. The 2 cars where side by side for turn2 with berger on the inside then you turned in without leaving him room.

Lap 2 like you said you tried a crazy outbrake and hit the wall, drove all the way around back to the pits, and when you came out of the pits you just quit pretty much wasting your spot.

The only one who ruined your race was you

[lowndes888]

Originally Posted by KarlosDaJackal

Lowndes,
This one was your fault. You and berger where side by side in turn1 and berger left you room on the inside without turning in on you. The 2 cars where side by side for turn2 with berger on the inside then you turned in without leaving him room.

Lap 2 like you said you tried a crazy outbrake and hit the wall, drove all the way around back to the pits, and when you came out of the pits you just quit pretty much wasting your spot.

The only one who ruined your race was you

I would have continued racing but it was the last straw when I saw that I forgot to change the front tyres which had a puncture

And I did an outbrake true, because I didn't try out the race setup much, plus the inside line didn't help

[GUPSTER]

what a fun race this was. started real quietly trying to stay clean and in control. timestamp 560 i got underneath Sege in turn one and got a slight tap on the exit, no probs m8.. looked like you took the worst part of it. that unsettled the car enough that 2 corners later McD got under me and we had some contact. mild mayhem for a second and get back in in 14th place. McD, sorry about the tap after we got back underway, i tried to keep it to the right... saw you head back to the grass.. 1190 i caught up to Jack and got to 9th place till the first pit cycle. lots of people in the pits on the first cycle. at 1800 i get by rafnix. 1920 Sidewinder catches up to me at turn 1 but gets the masarati out of shape so i get a love tap and loose a couple spots. no biggie m8, thats racing 2nd pitstop is lonely but company soon arrives as others cycle thru the pits. 2880 Kristofer came out and gave me a brief battle but i think cold tires slowed him down right there. off to chase GearChange down for a final stint battle.. great fun there m8! and also Sege for some real fun chases

a highlite vid of this one would be long as there was action everywhere, all the time hehe thanks NGR for hosting and congrats to the pod finishers!

[Kristofer]

Pretty strange race, where my pace in the beginning and in the 2nd stint was acceptable. Was really looking like a 5th place was in reach and maybe with a bit of luck a 4th. But then it all went downwards in the last stint, I was so slow sometimes in the oval and on the straights where I got passed like I was running only on 1cyl

Problem proved to be with the controler, forgot to adjust the brake deadzone after a reset just before the race. Which meant that the brakes was on now an then :uhm: Not good for topspeed..

Race start, made good progress in the first lap and in the second as well, up until the infield section where DigitAL bumped me during braking/turning really bad Made the car flip into the air, rejoining back in 17th place from 5th.

From there on, I just tried my best to get up to speed. Actually managed some nice overtakes when braking for T1, car seemed to be very stable and good during braking.

Not a perfect race, lets move on to the next race.. with a perfectly calibrated wheel

[DigitAL]

Originally Posted by Kristofer

up until the infield section where DigitAL bumped me during braking/turning really bad Made the car flip into the air, rejoining back in 17th place from 5th.

have to say on checking the replay; I did hit you pretty hard, sorry for that. The famous GTR physics didn't help as it was your front splitter digging in that caused you to flip, odd really, seeing as it was a door to door impact and very similar to the nudge you gave me two corners previous when I left the door wide open for you. And before a certain someone adds his (or her) two-penneth worth, I was not dishing out a tit-for-tat revenge.

Had a good race myself. Fernando, Greg and I had quite a close battle, swapping places left and right. Sometimes it seemed as though we were running like a Tour-De-France cycle team with all the overtakes! Almost as if it were choreographed! Eventually Greg broke free and Fernando took on less fuel at the second stop and I was left behind :cry:!

Roll on Riverside.

[DigitAL]

Originally Posted by lowndes888

And I did an outbrake true, because I didn't try out the race setup much

Yeah Berger, how dare you make him not try out his race setup! ROFLMAO

[Kristofer]

Originally Posted by DigitAL

have to say on checking the replay; I did hit you pretty hard, sorry for that. The famous GTR physics didn't help as it was your front splitter digging in that caused you to flip, odd really, seeing as it was a door to door impact and very similar to the nudge you gave me two corners previous when I left the door wide open for you.

Np! thats true, the physics are weird sometimes and me becoming airborne from that hit was strange. From my position in the car, the impact sounded awfull.. like someone hit me at full speed with no brakes

[the_wrexer]

Tricky one again for me. Didnt spend enough time practisng this one so rounded up around the back.

Race was okish had too many offs usually in the infield sections and i got a bit of fps stutter sometimes too. Avoided a pileup on the start but next couple of corners i got whacked by a recovering Fosters Vette trying to spin round onto the track not sure who it was i think it was GTR-516 have to check replay again was a bit foolish doing that on the racing line .Few laps later i rolled my car on the banking braking down to the bustop chicane i went too low onto the apron and the front digged.??? Pitted for repairs and the car was pretty much battered but solidered on and to come away with 17th isn't too bad more or less expected but 6 laps down due to my barrel roll. Glad to see the back of this track really too buggy and not really challenging to be honest.

Can i award myself a trophy? I didn't hit anyone although someone did hit me

[GearChange]

Originally Posted by the_wrexer

Tricky one again for me. Didnt spend enough time practisng this one so rounded up around the back.

Race was okish had too many offs usually in the infield sections and i got a bit of fps stutter sometimes too. Avoided a pileup on the start but next couple of corners i got whacked by a recovering Fosters Vette trying to spin round onto the track not sure who it was i think it was GTR-516 have to check replay again was a bit foolish doing that on the racing line .Few laps later i rolled my car on the banking braking down to the bustop chicane i went too low onto the apron and the front digged.??? Pitted for repairs and the car was pretty much battered but solidered on and to come away with 17th isn't too bad more or less expected but 6 laps down due to my barrel roll. Glad to see the back of this track really too buggy and not really challenging to be honest.

Can i award myself a trophy? I didn't hit anyone although someone did hit me

i watched some of your race wrexer, you looked very challenged if you ask me :p , im sure i counted over 20 offs. in my opinion you should not of raced this track as it is clear by the replay you had no idea on how to get round the track. you were a danger to everyone around you. please make sure you a prepared for a track.

[the_wrexer]

I agree Greg just wasn't working out on here. It was finally coming good around halfway but was totally off form. Bright side though at least i finished.

[DigitAL]

Originally Posted by Kristofer

Np! thats true, the physics are weird sometimes and me becoming airborne from that hit was strange. From my position in the car, the impact sounded awfull.. like someone hit me at full speed with no brakes

I've attached a piccy of the moment I braked. I'm sure you'll agree it was early enough. Without Frap'ing several pictures up to the moment of impact, you'll have to take my word that I was on the brakes all the way.

[DigitAL]

in case my word's not worth the paper it's written on. lol

[lowndes888]

Originally Posted by DigitAL

Yeah Berger, how dare you make him not try out his race setup! ROFLMAO

Al you're getting on my nerves with these comments

chill a bit and let go

[Steve_300ZX]

Originally Posted by lowndes888

Al you're getting on my nerves with these comments

chill a bit and let go

I'm with you all the way Lowndes. Also made it to work and back today with my Zed still in one piece

[Steve_300ZX]

Originally Posted by DigitAL

in case my word's not worth the paper it's written on. lol

Maybe your brakes were not very efficient? You seemed to be braking a long way. I am quite good at setting brakes up, made lots of mistakes along the way. But, learnt by them. If you need help, let me know.