Porsche 911 GT1 (W.I.P) - Page 2

Bandit13 · 1 February 10, 03:04

Leave it to Arnold and Vince to nit pick and piss on the guys corn flakes! Way to go as usual guys...LOL!

Great job. Keep up the good work. Don't listen to these guys, they look great. Can't wait to take them for a spin.

Pumpkin888 · 1 February 10, 03:23

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Originally Posted by Bandit13

Leave it to Arnold and Vince to nit pick and piss on the guys corn flakes! Way to go as usual guys...LOL!

Great job. Keep up the good work. Don't listen to these guys, they look great. Can't wait to take them for a spin.

I agree with you here. Vince, Arnold, please don't be trolls.

Bandit13 · 1 February 10, 03:28

Thanks Pumpkin...I was so affraid I would get my butt chewed. I just beleive in support and encouragement. Not tell someone that somethings is wrong right off the bat. And; that happens to often at this site.

Gear up and full speed ahead with these Porsches dude. They look fabulous!

Vince Klortho · 1 February 10, 07:17

I believe in support and encouragement too and correcting innaccuracies is one of many forms of support. Stating a fact is not being a troll. This is a simulation and is supposed to depict reality as close as possible. If this guy wants to make an innaccurate mod that is his choice but it will be unrealistic. Apparently realism and accuracy are low priorities for you two. Oh well. They are the highest priorities for my teams.

Alex1911 · 1 February 10, 08:26

Cool

But indeed the 98 Porsche 911 GT1 was right side drive ALWAYS

Even in Need For Speed Porsche the car was hand side drive

More photos here http://www.supercars.net/cars/1551.html
Driver is clearly on the right side

And here is the cockpit shot

LeSunTzu · 1 February 10, 09:17

The car looks gorgeous. It would be a pity to spoil it with a cockpit error.

There is a slight flaw in the visual: the inside of the side vents before the front wheels looks striated (probably flat faces in uvmap). Perhaps I'm nitpicking, but the rest including the paintjob looks perfect and it could be easily fixed.

ArnoldWong · 1 February 10, 09:24

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Originally Posted by Vince Klortho

I believe in support and encouragement too and correcting innaccuracies is one of many forms of support. Stating a fact is not being a troll. This is a simulation and is supposed to depict reality as close as possible. If this guy wants to make an innaccurate mod that is his choice but it will be unrealistic. Apparently realism and accuracy are low priorities for you two. Oh well. They are the highest priorities for my teams.

Same here, if accuracy is not important, then it's better to build a box and call it a McLaren F1, which saves a lot of time from correcting the shape too.

MHeymann · 1 February 10, 11:07

Great stuff, looking forward to drive this car in GTR2.

Maybe it's just me, but it might be important HOW you tell someone about an error/mistake/bug. I always hear that modders ask for respect, but respect does also mean to respect the work of other modders and not to mention in the very first comment what is wrong with the car.

And btw, it's great that you (Arnold and Vince) have such high standards, but maybe not all of us do follow or need these high standards.
I will definatly download this car when it's done, no matter if the steering wheel is on the right side or not, simply because the car is amazing and the guys have done a superb job in creating it. If they will correct the mistake, it will be even better, if not, no problem at all. - atleast for me.

Fast Bear · 1 February 10, 11:38

Wow !!! Lemans 1998 stars .Looks very good . Wait for it !!

barondegil · 1 February 10, 11:51

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Originally Posted by MHeymann

Great stuff, looking forward to drive this car in GTR2.

Maybe it's just me, but it might be important HOW you tell someone about an error/mistake/bug. I always hear that modders ask for respect, but respect does also mean to respect the work of other modders and not to mention in the very first comment what is wrong with the car.

And btw, it's great that you (Arnold and Vince) have such high standards, but maybe not all of us do follow or need these high standards.
I will definatly download this car when it's done, no matter if the steering wheel is on the right side or not, simply because the car is amazing and the guys have done a superb job in creating it. If they will correct the mistake, it will be even better, if not, no problem at all. - atleast for me.

Is well said!

kvh · 1 February 10, 11:56

It would be strange if someone who is capable of making such a model would make a fundamental mistake like putting the steering wheel in the wrong place. Luckily a quick search on GTr4U showed me the following: http://s5.directupload.net/file/d/1965/72pgx5ix_jpg.htm

I find it interesting that if a modder does something 'wrong' in the physics, even if it's minor, the downloader will do nothing but whine and moan. But if the modder makes a big mistake in the model everything seems to be fine. Talk about double standards...

barondegil · 1 February 10, 12:07

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Originally Posted by kvh

It would be strange if someone who is capable of making such a model would make a fundamental mistake like putting the steering wheel in the wrong place. Luckily a quick search on GTr4U showed me the following: http://s5.directupload.net/file/d/1965/72pgx5ix_jpg.htm

I find it interesting that if a modder does something 'wrong' in the physics, even if it's minor, the downloader will do nothing but whine and moan. But if the modder makes a big mistake in the model everything seems to be fine. Talk about double standards...

Probably... Among us no saint. At everyone the priorities and favorites. By and large model is magnificent!

bobwilliams · 1 February 10, 12:50

Lol.

I had a thought reading all these posts.

Just imagine the consequence in being the only people with the left hand drive 911-GT1.

Hypotethically, we're going to have an even more precious car - since the historical racing-going version was never released with the left hand drive version.

We'll probably leave that 'standard' RHD version to those Rfactor folks...

barondegil · 1 February 10, 12:58

Markv84 · 1 February 10, 17:27

I didn't find any trolling/disrespect in this thread.

I agree with vince, its just a constructive observation. The car's looking pretty damn good, so because of that is not bad to remember that its a RHD, not LHD.

I can't see any reason to the modder be offended. And i'm sure he's not, I don't know why this discussion even started.

Markv84 · 1 February 10, 17:31

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Originally Posted by MHeymann

And btw, it's great that you (Arnold and Vince) have such high standards, but maybe not all of us do follow or need these high standards.
I will definatly download this car when it's done, no matter if the steering wheel is on the right side or not, simply because the car is amazing and the guys have done a superb job in creating it. If they will correct the mistake, it will be even better, if not, no problem at all. - atleast for me.

Its not a matter of standard, its a matter of accuracy, thats all. Constructive criticism is a way of support.

its all on the modder's judgement, he will decide whats the decision to make on this "issue".

anyway, keep the good work aleskskk. Altough im' not a big fan of the 1998 ones, I like the GT1 993 better.

Local · 1 February 10, 17:52

Fan-F**cking-Tastic!

So glad this car is finaly coming to GTR2, It and the CLK ive always loved the look of off,

Great Job!!!

Alex1911 · 1 February 10, 17:55

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Originally Posted by Local

Fan-F**cking-Tastic!

So glad this car is finaly coming to GTR2, It and the CLK ive always loved the look of off,

Great Job!!!

they were also responsable for destroying the GT1 class

Local · 1 February 10, 18:03

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Originally Posted by Alex1911

they were also responsable for destroying the GT1 class

While thats true, the cars themselves are legends, and besides you "really" cant blame the car or the teams that fielded them as destroying the the class they made the cars using full advantage of the rules of the time to make what all teams wanted, cars that could win races. If anything its the fault of everyone eles for not keeping up. Tho i can see what your saying

MHeymann · 1 February 10, 19:04

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Originally Posted by Markv84

Its not a matter of standard, its a matter of accuracy, thats all. Constructive criticism is a way of support.

its all on the modder's judgement, he will decide whats the decision to make on this "issue".

anyway, keep the good work aleskskk. Altough im' not a big fan of the 1998 ones, I like the GT1 993 better.

If you put countless hours of work into something and the first comment from someone is about a mistake you've made then this is unrespectful to me, of course everyone has a different opinion about this and that's ok, it's just my point of view.

Constructive criticism (to me) sounds like that: "You've done a great job on the model itself, but maybe you haven't noticed that the Porsche has the steering wheel on the wrong side. If you already know that (as the car is WIP) just forget my comment" - or something like this. And especially a modder itself should know how much work is needed to get this far and how great it is to get some positive reaction in the first place.

BTW, I've followed the work on that Porsche for some time now and the guy who worked on that model had almost given up, but he didn't and so he has my respect for that.

~~Empty Box~~ · 1 February 10, 19:08

It's sad that to even point out the fact that the steering wheel is on the wrong side one can get flamed. Pointing that out nicely, as Arnold did, is constructive criticism. Saying, "Yea, it's spot on, bloody good job, but, umm, you missed a spot" is constructive also.

It's probably just a placeholder to get it ingame anyways.

GTR Dude · 1 February 10, 19:11

So call it an American spec Porsche 911 GT1..... 'Nuff said.

Schraubzwinge · 1 February 10, 22:31

Calm down racing drivers!
I am aware that the Porsche 911 GT1 was unfortunately not real driven as LHD. Please see it as additional version to the RHD, it is only a special version of the modder and the technician. If you like it then drives it - basta!

For the real underground bloody freaks there is a model as RHD available and it will be released asap. It would be a pleasure of me if you take the car and ride it to the winner.

Thanks Aleksss for the absolute great job!

bobwilliams · 1 February 10, 23:09

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Originally Posted by Alex1911

they were also responsable for destroying the GT1 class

Well... let's remember cars didn't destroy championship - rules did.

(um, most of the time, the LACK of it does, always happened in the modern F1 times).

So all our 'clues' should be addressed against the mere regulation staff, you know.

Racing is business, not only our beloved passion. If one's willing to enhance his car at the limit, in order to be more competitive, and the rules allows some filthy moves...
Who would ever close the door to the chance of having a wealthy sponsor on a spoiler?

Moreover - race drivers can't afford to pay their bills with miracles and conversions. I Never saw in my life a driver named Jesus Christ.

p.s.: this 911 GT1 kick-4$$!

1 February 10, 03:04	#25
Bandit13 Uploader Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North Carolina, USA Age: 40	Leave it to Arnold and Vince to nit pick and piss on the guys corn flakes! Way to go as usual guys...LOL! Great job. Keep up the good work. Don't listen to these guys, they look great. Can't wait to take them for a spin.

1 February 10, 03:28	#27
Bandit13 Uploader Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North Carolina, USA Age: 40	Thanks Pumpkin...I was so affraid I would get my butt chewed. I just beleive in support and encouragement. Not tell someone that somethings is wrong right off the bat. And; that happens to often at this site. Gear up and full speed ahead with these Porsches dude. They look fabulous!

1 February 10, 07:17	#28
Vince Klortho Join Date: Oct 2007	I believe in support and encouragement too and correcting innaccuracies is one of many forms of support. Stating a fact is not being a troll. This is a simulation and is supposed to depict reality as close as possible. If this guy wants to make an innaccurate mod that is his choice but it will be unrealistic. Apparently realism and accuracy are low priorities for you two. Oh well. They are the highest priorities for my teams.

1 February 10, 08:26	#29
Alex1911 Join Date: Oct 2009	Cool But indeed the 98 Porsche 911 GT1 was right side drive ALWAYS Even in Need For Speed Porsche the car was hand side drive More photos here http://www.supercars.net/cars/1551.html Driver is clearly on the right side And here is the cockpit shot

1 February 10, 09:17	#30
LeSunTzu Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris	The car looks gorgeous. It would be a pity to spoil it with a cockpit error. There is a slight flaw in the visual: the inside of the side vents before the front wheels looks striated (probably flat faces in uvmap). Perhaps I'm nitpicking, but the rest including the paintjob looks perfect and it could be easily fixed.

1 February 10, 11:07	#32
MHeymann Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Goch, Germany	Great stuff, looking forward to drive this car in GTR2. Maybe it's just me, but it might be important HOW you tell someone about an error/mistake/bug. I always hear that modders ask for respect, but respect does also mean to respect the work of other modders and not to mention in the very first comment what is wrong with the car. And btw, it's great that you (Arnold and Vince) have such high standards, but maybe not all of us do follow or need these high standards. I will definatly download this car when it's done, no matter if the steering wheel is on the right side or not, simply because the car is amazing and the guys have done a superb job in creating it. If they will correct the mistake, it will be even better, if not, no problem at all. - atleast for me.

1 February 10, 11:38	#33
Fast Bear Join Date: Oct 2006	Wow !!! Lemans 1998 stars .Looks very good . Wait for it !!

1 February 10, 11:56	#35
kvh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Drogeham, NL Age: 23	It would be strange if someone who is capable of making such a model would make a fundamental mistake like putting the steering wheel in the wrong place. Luckily a quick search on GTr4U showed me the following: http://s5.directupload.net/file/d/1965/72pgx5ix_jpg.htm I find it interesting that if a modder does something 'wrong' in the physics, even if it's minor, the downloader will do nothing but whine and moan. But if the modder makes a big mistake in the model everything seems to be fine. Talk about double standards...

1 February 10, 12:50	#37
bobwilliams Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rome Age: 25	Lol. I had a thought reading all these posts. Just imagine the consequence in being the only people with the left hand drive 911-GT1. Hypotethically, we're going to have an even more precious car - since the historical racing-going version was never released with the left hand drive version. We'll probably leave that 'standard' RHD version to those Rfactor folks...

1 February 10, 12:58	#38
barondegil Join Date: May 2008 Location: In itself Age: 32

1 February 10, 17:27	#39
Markv84 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Germany Age: 25	I didn't find any trolling/disrespect in this thread. I agree with vince, its just a constructive observation. The car's looking pretty damn good, so because of that is not bad to remember that its a RHD, not LHD. I can't see any reason to the modder be offended. And i'm sure he's not, I don't know why this discussion even started.

1 February 10, 17:52	#41
Local Join Date: Oct 2008	Fan-F**cking-Tastic! So glad this car is finaly coming to GTR2, It and the CLK ive always loved the look of off, Great Job!!!

1 February 10, 19:08	#45
~~Empty Box~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2007	It's sad that to even point out the fact that the steering wheel is on the wrong side one can get flamed. Pointing that out nicely, as Arnold did, is constructive criticism. Saying, "Yea, it's spot on, bloody good job, but, umm, you missed a spot" is constructive also. It's probably just a placeholder to get it ingame anyways.

1 February 10, 19:11	#46
GTR Dude Uploader Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wanna be in the UK Age: 50	So call it an American spec Porsche 911 GT1..... 'Nuff said.

1 February 10, 22:31	#47
Schraubzwinge Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Age: 39	Calm down racing drivers! I am aware that the Porsche 911 GT1 was unfortunately not real driven as LHD. Please see it as additional version to the RHD, it is only a special version of the modder and the technician. If you like it then drives it - basta! For the real underground bloody freaks there is a model as RHD available and it will be released asap. It would be a pleasure of me if you take the car and ride it to the winner. Thanks Aleksss for the absolute great job!