How the HELL do you drift ?

[Citation10]

From what I can see in the controller setting , there isnt a E brake , so I'm wondering how the hell do you get he back end sideways on the car ? I got a bunch of drift cars and I see they have EXTREME power , but I sure cant get the rear end to slide around ?:confused:

[Gaiajohan]

Originally Posted by Citation10

From what I can see in the controller setting , there isnt a E brake , so I'm wondering how the hell do you get he back end sideways on the car ? I got a bunch of drift cars and I see they have EXTREME power , but I sure cant get the rear end to slide around ?:confused:

Less wing, more arb rear etc, there's lots you can do in the setups screen/

[Smokeylizard]

There is a handbrake in the controller settings but I'm pretty sure people drifting don't use it. As far as technique there are many youtube gtr2 drift videos to check out.

[Gaiajohan]

Originally Posted by Smokeylizard

There is a handbrake in the controller settings but I'm pretty sure people drifting don't use it. As far as technique there are many youtube gtr2 drift videos to check out.

The cars also don't have handbrake so the button you assigned to it just doesn't work, just like the horn button and the 7th gear button.

[MCiN7]

if your using gt2 drift mod i can send you a setup over msn

[Smuckers]

very precise throttle and braking control

[Citation10]

Originally Posted by Smuckers

very precise throttle and braking control

Yeah I see now , Looks like it will take me a while to get used to it .

[doo]

Originally Posted by Citation10

From what I can see in the controller setting , there isnt a E brake , so I'm wondering how the hell do you get he back end sideways on the car ? I got a bunch of drift cars and I see they have EXTREME power , but I sure cant get the rear end to slide around ?:confused:

Drifting in real life is extremely difficult. It requires a lot of power (or a slippery surface) and a very good feel to the car. Usually drift cars are specifically set up to drift and are actually a bit difficult to drive when not drifting due to the massive camber angles and unusual differential and chassis settings.

Professional drifters use a large variety of different drifting techniques and most drifts are a combination of two or more techniques. Here's a list of the most common ones.

Power-over

This is the most simple drifting technique. Basically, all it takes is some streering input and wild amounts of throttle. The result is too much torque to the rear wheels which then causes the rear end to lose traction. Once this happens, you quickly need to steer into the skid to keep the car from spinning. Once you release the throttle the wheels regain traction.

Steering

This technique is all about using the momentum of the rear end to force the car into a skid. You first need to steer a little bit away from the curve and then into the corner right after. This will cause the rear end to swing from one side to another and to lose traction. Again, once this happens, you quickly need to steer into the skid to avoid spinning.

Braking

This technique uses braking and some steering input to cause a longitudinal pitch attitude change thus causing the rear end to lighten and to lose traction. It doesn't require a jerk on the steering wheel, just some steering input. This is a very smooth drifting technique, less violent than the others, but one of the most difficult ones to maintain.

Shift-lock

This technique is a little bit more sophisticated and requires perhaps a bit more practice. You disengage the clutch thus causing the revs to drop down. Then you downshift into a smaller gear and quickly engage the clutch again. The resistance of the engine prevents the rear wheels from keeping up with the road and again, they lose traction. Clutch is not necessarily required if the car has a sequential gear box.

Clutching

A little similar to the one above but easier. When entering the corner, you apply some steering input and then rapidly pump the clutch pedal up and down a few times rocking the balance of the car enough to force it into a skid. Less violent than shift-lock.

Weaving (waku-waku)

This one is probably one of the easiest techniques to initiate but the most difficult one to get out of without crashing. Have you ever driven on a slippery road and your car started to fishtail? And every time when you tried to turn into the skid to correct it you fishtailed to the other side into a bigger skid? Well, that's exactly what you're intentionally trying to do here.

On a straight, steer the car a little bit and apply wild amounts of throttle. Once the weight starts to shift back suddenly cut off all throttle and turn the steering wheel into the other direction and add throttle. Again, when the weight starts coming back, power off and turn the other way etc. You can hold it on one side by flooring the gas pedal and when you lift off the gas the rear end fishtails to the other direction as it regains traction momentarily.

This is the technique used to combine different drifts into one never-ending slide from one corner to another. Once you master this technique, you are theoretically able to drift indefinately.

Handbrake

Handbraking isn't really a drifting technique, although it is possible to drift using it (pull the lever, lock the rear tires, lose traction). You should really try to think of handbrake as more of a spice than a main course. The professionals really only use it to fine-tune the slip angle while in a drift and sometimes to cover up for their mistakes. It's also used by some drifters to initiate a huge weave... sort of as a way to get right down to the big business.

There are also a few very common combinations of the ones above (although it is possible to combine them very extensively):

Left-foot braking

A combination of power-over and braking. Braking causes the rear end to lighten up and the torque pushes the tires over the traction threshold. Quite simple.

Scandinavian flick

This one is basically a combination of power-over, braking and weaving. Comes in handy especially in tight corners. You first turn away from the corner and lock the brakes (left foot). This causes the car to lean forward and to slide ahead while staying a little bit sideways (not too much, somewhere around 10-30 degrees). While the wheels are locked, you turn into the corner. This, or course, has no observable effect because the wheels are still locked. At this point, while still pressing hard on the brakes, you apply power. This causes the front end of the car to dip even deeper thus adding more traction in the front. As soon as the front end starts to regain grip you release the brake and ease up on the gas right after. If you did it all correctly, the car should violently slingshot itself into the corner in a wild angle.

This technique was first introduced by North-European rally drivers and it is widely used in rally driving today. It allows the driver to take tight corners much faster than the conventional way. For drifting purposes it is suitable because it is visually impressive because of the rapid slide angle changes involved.


So, as you may have noticed by now, drifting is all about intentionally losing traction in the rear tires while still keeping control in the front. A proper setup is a big part of succeeding, especially the steering lock setup which has to be quite large. Usually you'll need at least 30 degrees of steering lock. Also, the differentials have a big role so play around with them and see what happens.

One important factor is to keep up the pace. Don't slow down too much. However, remember that you still have to slow down for tight corners. Going sideways won't give you wonder-grip tires. To make it easier at first, try to keep the slide angles small. Small moves on the steering wheel. Start off with the basic techniques and work your way up.


Hope these pointers could help you out.

[S.Moss]

lots of steering lock as well helps

[daanbanaan]

maybe a stupid idea, but have you put ABS and Traction Control off :p

otherwise it is very hard to drift

[lowndes888]

Originally Posted by daanbanaan

maybe a stupid idea, but have you put ABS and Traction Control off :p

otherwise it is very hard to drift

Correction
Its not POSSIBLE to drift
How do you want to lose traction with traction control?:p:p

[Eno]

Most online servers run aids. I would look for servers that run minimal aids if any. Otherwise you are fighting the computer. Another thing is to run incar and incar only. You cant get the feel of the car from the hood or driving behind the car.

[Citation10]

Thanks for the info

[daanbanaan]

Originally Posted by lowndes888

Correction
Its not POSSIBLE to drift
How do you want to lose traction with traction control?:p:p

there are some mods like that turbine corvette my god, what a machine (this is not really driftable, but you lose traction:p)

[Citation10]

Originally Posted by daanbanaan

there are some mods like that turbine corvette my god, what a machine (this is not really driftable, but you lose traction:p)

LOL i tired that , but I found myself in the wall more then on the track !! hahaha

[OOPz]

i used to think GTR2 was all wrong beyond the traction limit, i simply couldnt reliably catch a slide and hold it... but... then i stuck on the BMW M3 mod... because its a domestic car its a lot more forgiving than the pure breed racers and thus a LOT easier to slide... the racers are just too twitchy, need to be stupidly good to react that quickly (and not over react)

i still cant actually slide the GT cars in a controlled manner but at least i know its my incompetence not the game

few days practice in the M3 has greatly improved my ability to recover control when i mess up and start into a spin tho, time well spent