A wicked sleeper

[doo]

Volvo Amazon '67

Me want one! :p

[Kongo]

Sleepers are by far the best cars ever because they pounce without prior warning. The older the better for sleepers too.

Hell, once I can drive...Oh my I have such a sleeper. Doesn;'t beat that Volvo no way but still, mighty cool in the secretive power stuff. Thanks to dad for givin it me, (it's previous owner), and the Cardiff CIA before that . (where the devious car was born)

I'll post some pics sometime, maybe everyone else should too, I love hidden power.
It's like a bodybuilder in baggy clothes. People in the streets start on him so he rips it of and BAM, good night vienna.

[[SSR]Hoskins]

heres a few of my favs...........
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2yT6tPsMfjI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A203ShFM854

[Kongo]

Originally Posted by [SSR]Hoskins

heres a few of my favs...........
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2yT6tPsMfjI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A203ShFM854

Station Wagon rocked LOL!
Hey, no big wheelie problems tho as an upside.

[Roger]

Very nice car doo

[morning_wood]

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[Jevgen]

I think this Ford Model A would fit nicely to this thread. It's not a dragster, but I think 0-100 km/h in 5 seconds is a quite achievement with a car that looks just like Model A did in late 1920's.

Here is also a video.

[doo]

Originally Posted by Kongo

I love hidden power.
It's like a bodybuilder in baggy clothes. People in the streets start on him so he rips it of and BAM, good night vienna.

No no no... No matter how baggy clothes, you can still always tell a bodybuilder. Sleepers are like Jackie Chan. Looks like a damn tourist and keeps telling everyone he wants no trouble but still everytime kicks everyone's ass.

:roflmao:

[Kongo]

Originally Posted by doo

No no no... No matter how baggy clothes, you can still always tell a bodybuilder. Sleepers are like Jackie Chan. Looks like a damn tourist and keeps telling everyone he wants no trouble but still everytime kicks everyone's ass.

:roflmao:

Yeah, that's a much better way.

[Kongo]

Originally Posted by Kongo

Sleepers are by far the best cars ever because they pounce without prior warning. The older the better for sleepers too.

Hell, once I can drive...Oh my I have such a sleeper. Doesn;'t beat that Volvo no way but still, mighty cool in the secretive power stuff. Thanks to dad for givin it me, (it's previous owner), and the Cardiff CIA before that . (where the devious car was born)

I'll post some pics sometime, maybe everyone else should too, I love hidden power.
It's like a bodybuilder in baggy clothes. People in the streets start on him so he rips it of and BAM, good night vienna.

Scratch that.
Due to family issues we cannot keep a 2nd car so my dad's got the car...oh well...better he own it anyways...my first car laster very not long.

Sierra sleeper it is then.

[Gaiajohan]

Volvo Amazons are quite easy to find here And for reasonable prices, as they're restorated much, just like Citroën DS for example. So they aren't 'special'.

I think Sierra mk1 are more difficult to find, and I want it NOW

Isn't it lovely?(L)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7jiTlv9wwI

[Kongo]

Originally Posted by Gaiajohan

Volvo Amazons are quite easy to find here And for reasonable prices, as they're restorated much, just like Citroën DS for example. So they aren't 'special'.

I think Sierra mk1 are more difficult to find, and I want it NOW

Isn't it lovely?(L)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7jiTlv9wwI

:hehehe: oh dear, one thing about you living where you do, rare Sierra's.

I wouldn't say they are ten a penny here but I go by 4 on my way to work, one of which parks outside...

Usually the mkII and mkII facelift tho but mkI's can be found.
Check out the engine sounds thread, I've got a treat for ya.

[doo]

Originally Posted by Gaiajohan

Volvo Amazons are quite easy to find here And for reasonable prices, as they're restorated much, just like Citroën DS for example. So they aren't 'special'.

Sleepers aren't special in looks or brand. Sleepers are special in performance. The whole idea of the concept is to build a decievingly ordinary looking car that has wild amounts of power and torque.

Besides, to fit an engine and a turbo big enough to produce 500 bhp under a Volvo Amazon's hood is a commendable task alone.

[Smokinmasta]

Although not strictly a sleeper per se, my old 8g Mitsi Galant VR4 was a real monster. JDM car and only sold by Ralliart dealers for year or so in the UK.
Spec 2.5V6 24v, TWIN turbo, 4WD with active yaw control (as per EVO) active center diff etc etc.
Ran sub 5 sec to 60 and on to 150 !!
The sleeper bit was the fact that nobody knew what the hell it was as it just looked like a straight Galant. Was great blowing away powerful BMW's when the mood took me

[doo]

That's a nice looking car too. Although I must say I have never given much value on 0-100 km/h (to hell with the imperial scale ). 0-200 km/h or 0-200-0 km/h are much better indicators of performance.

TWIN turbo is not necessarily better than SINGLE turbo. They are just different in properties. For maximal power or quarter miles, I'd definately go with one huge turbo. Twin turbo is really only better if you're driving a lot of stuff where you need to lift off the throttle a lot and need to avoid turbo lag, like rally, for instance.

But yeah, definately a car that I could see myself owning some day. I've always loved the exterior design of Galant.

[Kongo]

Originally Posted by doo

That's a nice looking car too. Although I must say I have never given much value on 0-100 km/h (to hell with the imperial scale ). 0-200 km/h or 0-200-0 km/h are much better indicators of performance.

TWIN turbo is not necessarily better than SINGLE turbo. They are just different in properties. For maximal power or quarter miles, I'd definately go with one huge turbo. Twin turbo is really only better if you're driving a lot of stuff where you need to lift off the throttle a lot and need to avoid turbo lag, like rally, for instance.

But yeah, definately a car that I could see myself owning some day. I've always loved the exterior design of Galant.

Supra Twin Turbo's are nice. I prefere the 80's / early 90's examples tho.

[Smokinmasta]

Originally Posted by doo

That's a nice looking car too. Although I must say I have never given much value on 0-100 km/h (to hell with the imperial scale ). 0-200 km/h or 0-200-0 km/h are much better indicators of performance.

TWIN turbo is not necessarily better than SINGLE turbo. They are just different in properties. For maximal power or quarter miles, I'd definately go with one huge turbo. Twin turbo is really only better if you're driving a lot of stuff where you need to lift off the throttle a lot and need to avoid turbo lag, like rally, for instance.

But yeah, definately a car that I could see myself owning some day. I've always loved the exterior design of Galant.

Youre telling me to suck eggs man - i know!!
Twin turbo is better for a more linear power delivery in this type of car.
The supra TT st up was slightly differant as one cam in after the other where as on my galant they came in very low down together (one on each bank of three cylinders. Only downside of the galant was that the power plant was unique to this car only and hence no real tuning parts availible. The VR4 in the states for the GTO was an entirley differant engine, turbos etc
Only thing i had differant was a custom cat free exhaust a walbro fuel pump and a greddy boost controller.
0- to anything is only 'pub talk' and the REAL indicator of any cars performance was the in car speeds such as 60kmh - 120kmh and so on...anyway a couple more. (PS the MPG - or gas mileage as the US call it - really sucked when driven in anger. I got no more than 8mpg on track!!)



In this one i had 'de-oranged' the front indicators and painted the front splitter black as per the super VR4

An my favorite engine pic of all time - and this a daily driver!!

[Pizzaman]

Oh goody. My purple Mini was a real sleeper when I first got it fixed up.
does 0-100 km/h in about 6.5 secs, tops 200+.
Back in 1995 that was something, a hot hatch like a GTI would do about 190 and9 secs.
Nobody expectedthat of this sweet metallic-purple Mini (well, the noise sort of gave it away a bit).

Nowadays, with some DIESELS doing these things like nothing, you need something really extreme...
The engine in my Capri now gives 240 hp, but I could add a turbo... 380hp? and same thing would go into a Cortina or Granada (stationwagon). The Capri shape gives it away a bit though.
By the way, it would also fit a Sierra... for less cost than a Cosworth.

[Kongo]

Originally Posted by Pizzaman

Oh goody. My purple Mini was a real sleeper when I first got it fixed up.
does 0-100 km/h in about 6.5 secs, tops 200+.
Back in 1995 that was something, a hot hatch like a GTI would do about 190 and9 secs.
Nobody expectedthat of this sweet metallic-purple Mini (well, the noise sort of gave it away a bit).

Nowadays, with some DIESELS doing these things like nothing, you need something really extreme...
The engine in my Capri now gives 240 hp, but I could add a turbo... 380hp? and same thing would go into a Cortina or Granada (stationwagon). The Capri shape gives it away a bit though.
By the way, it would also fit a Sierra... for less cost than a Cosworth.

Cosworths are nice but for thier price...technically it's a rip off...But then you'd only own one for it being a Cossy I guess.

You are better off buying a normal model and modding it. Plus, everyone knows what a Cossy looks like. The Saphhire Cossy hides it a bit as it doesn't have the whale tail wing but the normal Sierra doesn't...that said, both have body kits too.

If I get what I REALLY want, it'd be cool.
Imagine a mkIII Cortina with a modern Zetec engine equipped with twin straight pipes?

My final list goes (and this has come from YEARS of thought and a good eye as well as practicality):

1) Ford Cortina mkIII - Escorts have taken over due to the Focus! The Cortina needs it's due in the classic Ford scene pushed out more!

2) Ford Escort (pre-mkIII) - For a good enough example I still want one of these!

3) Ford Sierra - A solid, misunderstood genius of a Ford. If not for the Sierra, car shapes would not be as they are now. Buy one before people jump the bandwagon!

All of the above are, like all Fords, highly tunable.
There will be NO stripping, this destorys the car as a classic. Might as well put a Cortina shell on a Mondeo (no offence to them). Engine, trans swaps etc are good but interior and shell must be intact.

The Cortina has large potential for all sizes of engine, as does the Sierra and Escort, but the mkIII Cortina has pure 70's coolness with it's coke bottle shape. It kinda looks yankee too so a V8 would be superb...did someone say Rover V8?

One guy has put a 9 Litre engine in an Escort before...that wasn't a typo BTW.

[Smokinmasta]

There used to a guy lived near my parents who had a MkII cortina 1600e (i always like them when i was a kid ) and he a chevy small block under the bonnet. Christ that made some nice noises it looked so std from the outside too. And a friend of mine had a Polski fiat (Fiat 125, then Lada bought the tooling IIRC?) and had an Essex 3.0 V6 (Ford) that was a scary thing in the wet!! both attainable sleepers in their time.
My Fav though was i guy i grew up reading about called Nick Mann who had a Morris Minor running a twin turbo (IIRC?) Rover V8 - done about 10sec Qtr on street tyres!!!