Force feedback output

lesthegringo · 22 August 10, 11:49

Is there any way to output the X-Y-Z motion of the car so that such sharp movements like bumps, kerbs and impacts can be made to felt through a separate feedback device to the wheel? I was thinking that a heavy speaker driver coil powered by an amplifier may be able to give some feedback like those feedback chairs they sell

Stigasawus · 22 August 10, 13:17

Many moons ago there was a "thing" (ex U.S.) called an Aura Interactor. I was given one & bought a 2nd ex ebay. Basically a seat pad with a transducer (or several?) built in + amp/filter built in the 70's when they knew not what to do with them & fizzled out. I HAD A VISION & built one into the backrest of a seat from some Jap. car. (Seat even had zip opening in rear & was rel. simple to mod, but donated by son who constantly rebuilds his V8 Chev/63 Toyota 4WD so no identity!) Piggybacks to whichever sound output on back of tower OK.
Gives usefull "feel" in small of back, dont think I'm imagining that, & intend to use no2 on another build while still driving first. If sound track goes bump so do you!
Sounds like what your after & I got lucky so now you know a name to search & it'll be cheap gamble if they dont know what its good for. Think mine was under $20Aus incl. postage, so embarassing I posted another $20 note 'cause it came in as new with orig. box, instr. mint!! Had to make it worth posting!!

lesthegringo · 22 August 10, 16:38

sounds good to me - I have a load of old high quality speakers that became low quality ones with the advent of children and their rather searching fingers. I also have a really good old NAD amp that would be considered army surplus for its looks, but it's built like the proverbial outhouse.

like I said, if only you can output the 'G' forces or the information in some useable form, hey maybe we can use it. Of course, I found this: http://www.x-simulator.de/wiki/Go_he...ulator_systems ......it scared me a bit, as it is a bit more tech than I bargained for, but it might be of use to someone. But it is clear that there are possibilities

Stigasawus · 23 August 10, 13:44

That must be for Star Wars sims (laff), are they making that stuff up to sound cool?
I looked at the Aura box & it said 1996, but circuit board inside said copyrt.1970 something. searched the name on ebay minutes ago & found item ex Sydney Aus, s'pose your million k from that. Looked under "transducer" & found, amongst the boatie stuff, an I beam thing for "feeling" audio output...expensive. Seems most bumps etc in say R factor have an audio component, because it works for me BUT not on subwoofer output, mines centre front channel.

lesthegringo · 26 August 10, 11:19

clearly the G data must be exportable as the MOTEC plugin does it, it's just knowing how to use it. I've looked at a few USB external device controllers, I'm going to try and work out whether there's any way of tying them together.

22 August 10, 11:49	#1
lesthegringo Join Date: Oct 2006	Force feedback output Is there any way to output the X-Y-Z motion of the car so that such sharp movements like bumps, kerbs and impacts can be made to felt through a separate feedback device to the wheel? I was thinking that a heavy speaker driver coil powered by an amplifier may be able to give some feedback like those feedback chairs they sell

22 August 10, 13:17	#2
Stigasawus Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Drivers Seat,Australia Age: 64	Many moons ago there was a "thing" (ex U.S.) called an Aura Interactor. I was given one & bought a 2nd ex ebay. Basically a seat pad with a transducer (or several?) built in + amp/filter built in the 70's when they knew not what to do with them & fizzled out. I HAD A VISION & built one into the backrest of a seat from some Jap. car. (Seat even had zip opening in rear & was rel. simple to mod, but donated by son who constantly rebuilds his V8 Chev/63 Toyota 4WD so no identity!) Piggybacks to whichever sound output on back of tower OK. Gives usefull "feel" in small of back, dont think I'm imagining that, & intend to use no2 on another build while still driving first. If sound track goes bump so do you! Sounds like what your after & I got lucky so now you know a name to search & it'll be cheap gamble if they dont know what its good for. Think mine was under $20Aus incl. postage, so embarassing I posted another $20 note 'cause it came in as new with orig. box, instr. mint!! Had to make it worth posting!!

22 August 10, 16:38	#3
lesthegringo Join Date: Oct 2006	sounds good to me - I have a load of old high quality speakers that became low quality ones with the advent of children and their rather searching fingers. I also have a really good old NAD amp that would be considered army surplus for its looks, but it's built like the proverbial outhouse. like I said, if only you can output the 'G' forces or the information in some useable form, hey maybe we can use it. Of course, I found this: http://www.x-simulator.de/wiki/Go_he...ulator_systems ......it scared me a bit, as it is a bit more tech than I bargained for, but it might be of use to someone. But it is clear that there are possibilities

23 August 10, 13:44	#4
Stigasawus Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Drivers Seat,Australia Age: 64	That must be for Star Wars sims (laff), are they making that stuff up to sound cool? I looked at the Aura box & it said 1996, but circuit board inside said copyrt.1970 something. searched the name on ebay minutes ago & found item ex Sydney Aus, s'pose your million k from that. Looked under "transducer" & found, amongst the boatie stuff, an I beam thing for "feeling" audio output...expensive. Seems most bumps etc in say R factor have an audio component, because it works for me BUT not on subwoofer output, mines centre front channel.

26 August 10, 11:19	#5
lesthegringo Join Date: Oct 2006	clearly the G data must be exportable as the MOTEC plugin does it, it's just knowing how to use it. I've looked at a few USB external device controllers, I'm going to try and work out whether there's any way of tying them together.