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Old 11 March 11, 23:16   #1
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Some folks have asked for a car list. Rather than post page after page listing each car, we thought you might like to SEE some of them. We'll post some each week til the release.

First the amazing T4G Radical SR9. But acting as an Embassy WF01.

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The PUG from JPBS



Joest a minute young man



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L-O-L-A Lola MG


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Old 11 March 11, 23:34   #2
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:O woah nice
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Great idea, thanks
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Old 12 March 11, 14:41   #6
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Very nice, I like
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Very nice, the lola is a scratch made model?
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Old 12 March 11, 22:35   #8
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heck Gutz, I don't know, that showed up just after the last release (v2.41). Perfect Dark dropped several new cars on us(Pesca01, 07s Creation/Zytek & Lolas.) and then dropped out. I honestly don't know.
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heck Gutz, I don't know, that showed up just after the last release (v2.41). Perfect Dark dropped several new cars on us(Pesca01, 07s Creation/Zytek & Lolas.) and then dropped out. I honestly don't know.
Probably it is but anyway you should make sure of it, there is huge amout of ilegal conversions out there, is like a virus spreading by him self like skynet in terminator, anyway i realy suport hard scratch made work and you guys are making a tremendus work in the mod! but what you mean about "dropped out"?
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To my eyes it looks like a modified version of one of the old SCC Lolas, the RSDG ones from the original SCC Mod for F1C which this project has permission to use, as far as I'm aware.

Still, very nice on the whole and I look forward to seeing all the cars in action.
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Old 13 March 11, 06:40   #11
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PD was very thorough getting permissions for everything included in the mod. He tracked down Bill T from the SSM days, got in contact of the RSDG guys. I haven't had a single worry about anything he provided. I'm sure somebody will carp about something, that is why we have continued to only offer cars we can get permission for. We 'could' have stolen the EnduroRacer Epsilon, but without their permission we obviously chose not too. So 'our' EE1 will be a Pug 908 with it's Turbo inlets removed. Every skin that comes from the community also was cleared before we included them.

I would definitely prefer to use your method and build the mod from scratch, one model at a time, but there just are not enough modelers etc to fill up the huge number of cars in the mod.
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Old 13 March 11, 08:12   #12
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Just please make sure you all send this to Pilsbierbude when you release it.
Pilsbierbude is now the only place you can drive the legit version of the mod against ACTUAL PEOPLE in a fun race.
Cheers...
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wanted top ask about LM97

you have permission to use the F1 Longtail from WSGT, there were 6 of them at LM97 , so only a skin job really , no 39, 40 , 41, 42 ,43, 44 (and only 3 skins really)

also you could try to use Wildnman's 1997 Porsche 911 GT1 and 911 GT1 EVO (factory) from the FIA GT 97 mod if the quality is good enough , there were no less than 7 of them at LM97 . And we all know that the 911 GT1 was more a proto rather than a GT car and a good match for the longtail Mclaren . Qualifying times were pretty much identical in the 3.43 -3.49 range from both cars

http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...997-06-15.html

no 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 , 30 , 32, 33

one of them attempted LM98 too with nice Playstation sponsorship (apears to be EVO) http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-05-03-048.jpg

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Yes, the Larbre Competition Porsche on LM1998 prequalifying was a 996 GT1 from 97

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Yes, the Larbre Competition Porsche on LM1998 prequalifying was a 993 GT1 Evo from 97
I think you are a bit confusing here

AFAIK the 1997 911 GT1 EVO had a 996 "look" to it as you can notice from the headlights and rear lights

the normal and original 911 GT1 had indeed the older 993 look



the 98 911 GT1 was a complelty different car altogetehr but it had also a 996 look
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Old 13 March 11, 11:15   #16
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this car had GRAN TURISMO sponsorship

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Yep it's the 996 GT1 Evo1 which is just fabolous in this skin! Too bad they failed to qualafy, they would surely looked great with the works 996 GT1 Evo2..
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yep, some number mistake. it was a 996 GT1 (1997) (evo based on 993 GT1 (1996))
sorry, short night
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We have the Evo but we do not have that skin, that I know of.
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wanted top ask about LM97

you have permission to use the F1 Longtail from WSGT, there were 6 of them at LM97 , so only a skin job really , no 39, 40 , 41, 42 ,43, 44 (and only 3 skins really)

also you could try to use Wildnman's 1997 Porsche 911 GT1 and 911 GT1 EVO (factory) from the FIA GT 97 mod if the quality is good enough , there were no less than 7 of them at LM97 . And we all know that the 911 GT1 was more a proto rather than a GT car and a good match for the longtail Mclaren . Qualifying times were pretty much identical in the 3.43 -3.49 range from both cars

http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...997-06-15.html

no 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 , 30 , 32, 33

one of them attempted LM98 too with nice Playstation sponsorship (apears to be EVO) http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-05-03-048.jpg
All of them (except the '98 Larbre 911 GT1) done by me; they're all available on NoGrip
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I made those Lola's!!!!! The B0540 line and the B0610 lineup.




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heck Gutz, I don't know, that showed up just after the last release (v2.41). Perfect Dark dropped several new cars on us(Pesca01, 07s Creation/Zytek & Lolas.) and then dropped out. I honestly don't know.
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All the cars that you listed I updated them from the original Zytek, Pescarolo C60, and the B0160 Lola.


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heck Gutz, I don't know, that showed up just after the last release (v2.41). Perfect Dark dropped several new cars on us(Pesca01, 07s Creation/Zytek & Lolas.) and then dropped out. I honestly don't know.
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Ok! When PD left, he gave us several models that JB had done, the Lola, Pesca, Creation. I should have asked two years ago!
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hmm that Larbre needs to be done to fill up the gris as a substtue for missing protos

it exists at No grip but it's wrong version (FIA GT) which is slightly different rims, race logos and race number http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=27291

and i noticed the rear wing was different on the real car too


and regarding the 98 911 GT1, the factory cars used MICHELINS while the Zakspeed ones used PIRELLI , I think this made the factory cars slighly faster !!!!!
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+ the drivers and teams talent...
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+ the drivers and teams talent...
From what I have read about the era, and for all the Reputation Michelin has built up in Sportscar racing, Bridgestone was the best tire of it's day. The Mercedes CLx car were the chief beneficiary of that tire.
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and regarding the 98 911 GT1, the factory cars used MICHELINS while the Zakspeed ones used PIRELLI , I think this made the factory cars slighly faster !!!!!
Also, according to some who should know, the factory didn't have enough gearboxes that would last the 24 hours, so the Zakspeed cars were "inexplicably" down on power a bit during prequali.
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+ the drivers and teams talent...
absolutely not.

The drivers were quite as fast as factories one (especialy LM experienced F. Giroix).

The car was a real prototype developped with Michelin and it's not as easy at it seems to change to another tyre compound on a track like Le Mans it can clearly result as 5" gap.

No power down too cause on prequalifying you really don't care about the car (one of the 996 was crashed), the only goal was the prequalification. But these years it was so hard to reach this goal... I know what I'm talking about I was much deceive for some cars between 96 and 99.
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No power down too cause on prequalifying you really don't care about the car (one of the 996 was crashed)
Unless you have a factory engineer to do the engine management and the factory doesn't want too many cars in the race because they can't supply enough gearboxes...
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Do you have a date for your new mod ??
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Unless you have a factory engineer to do the engine management and the factory doesn't want too many cars in the race because they can't supply enough gearboxes...
but same situation happened in FIA GT, the factory cars were always slighly faster than the Zakspeed ones and I am sure the main reasons were the tires
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Me too.

The best example: the Audi R8, it was developped with Michelin and whatever team used that car, they had to run with these tyres.
Bad luck for Zakspeed to have Pirreli for partner...
Why don't they ask: Can we have your stickers on the car and use Michelin?


A thing that many people don't know:
When Porsche launched their 993 GT1 at prequalifying LeMans 96, there was a "small" difference between the 2 cars:

25:

26:



This small difference resulted in 3'50"995 for 25 and 3'52"207 for 26

For qualifying, the difference has disapeard and 25 had 3'47"139 and 26 3'47"132
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well i guess it's settled

If DaveHenrie agrees then the the only difference between the factory and the Zakspeed 98 911 GT1 wil be the tires with the Pirellis being clearly worse than the Michelins

ALso about FIA GT 97 mod, AFAIk that mod contains also the 97 Mercedes CLK GTR , Lotus GT1 and the Panoz GT1 which could be used in SCC too with some slight graphic polishing . And we all known this cars were more protos than GT

LM97
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-15-049.jpg
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-15-050.jpg

http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-15-052.jpg
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-15-054.jpg
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-15-055.jpg


LM98
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-07-044.jpg
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-07-045.jpg

even if it aperead only in pre qualifying but it looks awesome
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-05-03-046.jpg
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yep I had a try some times ago
http://www.nogripracing.com/gallery/...hp?photo=75897

A very interesting french article on that beauty
http://www.lemans.org/fr/actualites/...ride_1925.html
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yep I had a try some times ago
http://www.nogripracing.com/gallery/...hp?photo=75897

A very interesting french article on that beauty
http://www.lemans.org/fr/actualites/...ride_1925.html
Sparky!!!!!!!!
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Generally I am making the physics for all identical cars equal. Unless there is some over-riding concern, like the diesel in the old Lola. It is heavier and tail happy. (or the extremely overweight C70 BK Mazda masquerading as a C65) So, because we don't do brand specific tires, there shouldn't be much difference between two similar cars. Driver files can contribute to that difference but the actual physics will be similar. I was going to toy with separate inertia for 90 engines vs 72 but that would have been problematic if a team ran one type of engine one year but ran another with the same chassis later(Ala Creation) As it is, I've got to tweek the Creation and Pescarolo files now that JB has added low wings to the Hybrid era cars.
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Question:

Are you planning to make the Acura (now HPD) Acura ARX-01 from version "b" to "e", as well as the ARX-02a?
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We have put the brakes on any car past 2008. (except for the FLM/LMPc cars if we EVER GET THE COURAGE REDONE) Due to the change in both looks,(rear wings) and physics, we didn't want to push our luck and create further delays in the project. I have made test files for the ARX-02a, it would be fun to explore the rest of the family.
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