Im so Confused, Is NFS S2U Bad or Not?!?

[2JZpower]

The first week of S2U all i read was how bad the game is. How its not worth buying, how its just SHIFT 1 but worse.

Now im reading SHIFT 2 is good,
now what is good to me,
is this game moddable or not? Will we see Sunmods, car mods, etc.
Are the physics indeed better? Is this game graphically better?

Please convince me S2U is good or not, if so i am going to buy it. I love buying games to help the developers of good games. However, i refuse to put my hard earned money in something that is junk.

I don't mean any disrespect to the S2U developers, i am sure you guys put lots of quality time and hardwork, but all these complaints are obviously scaring consumers like me!

Lets make this clear!

What are the PROS and what are the CONS to NFS S2U!

please post PROS and CONS, don't be biased it just doesn't make it credible be honest.

[TUNDRA_schumacher]

whats yer computer specs?
takes a fairly powerful tower to run it well

and you have to paly with the setup your particular steering wheel. my momo racing adjusted up in prob 15 mins to where I was happy with the steering.

other than that, for me anyways it's a great game

[Brainbug]

i don´t think we need ANOTHER pros and cons thread. if u take ur time to read some threads here u will have all the facts about pros and cons. in the end u will only find out when racing it by ur own.

[martinsalat]

buy it,and have fun.

[YANNLEBLANC]

I played Shift2 the "Day one" with a G27, you will need times to make a good setup on your **graphic-cards/game/cars/Pads/Wheels** after it will be the best game you ever played.

This is my feel about this game. Also i have Shift1/moded and it's the same feeling, enjoyed a lot !

Need a good computer!

[gears]

Pros: Great graphics, lots of cars, nice tracks, lots of fun.

Cons: Takes a while to get your controller "right", no LAN support, not a "true sim" (no pitstops, no fuel usage, etc)

I guess it depends on what kind of racing game you're looking for. If you just want to have fun and drive great cars, then definitely buy it.

[mva5580]

Originally Posted by gears

Pros: Great graphics, lots of cars, nice tracks, lots of fun.

Cons: Takes a while to get your controller "right", no LAN support, not a "true sim" (no pitstops, no fuel usage, etc)

I guess it depends on what kind of racing game you're looking for. If you just want to have fun and drive great cars, then definitely buy it.

I think that's probably about as good as a really concise description could be. It looks great, car/track selection is great, and the game is just fun to play. But the controller setups take a little work, and if you're looking for a "real" sim, you might be a little disappointed.

I really like the game, and will absolutely LOVE IT if mods are ever figured out.

[2JZpower]

Im not big into PC gaming. I still got my old ass computer when i used to play CSS as a teenager. Canada is shit, i can't use my sports car in the warmer weather ever, and even then track days are expensive and don't happen as often as i would like.

So just because I love NFS shift i ordered this from Tiger direct....

1920x1080 27" viewsonic monitor
MSI GTX460 Cyclone 768mb (i can overclock this sucker to 900mhz!)
AMD phenom II X4 955 (overclocking to 3.8Ghz) + V8 super CPU cooler
New Case + 6 fans
4GB of DDR3 ram....
+ after countless research and youtube videos, this rig should play NFS shift 1 MAXED OUT 1920x1080 and not go under 60fps.

+ g27 ordered but ITS BEEN 4 MONTHS AND IT HAS NOT EVEN SHIPPED!!!!!!! major stocking issues.
+ so i might go fanatec instead.

i did all these expenses just for NFS shift.
Now convince me S2U is good and i will add that to the collection.

I need to know what i got my self into, im waiting for my paypal to go through and im buying all the computer stuff (minus video card which i already bought on special) in 4 days.
I am a serious petrol head who wants to buy only the best! I really liked the overhaul mod and despised the stock physics, i read S2U is just copy and paste of Shift 1!

Now lets get these pros and cons out, and i heard nobody plays online? How does shift 1 sell 5 million copies and nobody plays... i hate listening to utter nonsense and i want to make it clear what kind of game S2U is now!

I would love to be part of the community and play with you guys and mod with you guys.

[2JZpower]

it seems like this game has good presets for G27, should i wait till June (if it even ships in June) or just go for fanatec?

If i was all for %100 sim i would take my real car or not sold GT5 and PS3.
GT5 is so realistic in terms of lap times its amazing.
GT5 is so boring so quickly, i resorted back to NFS shift.

NFS shift has a great fun factor on how fast it is. Lap times may not be perfect, but its got a physics engine and thats all that matters. It handles realistically on some degree im sure, and if you get used to it, im sure its realistic on planet EA, but recreating earth physics to the greatest degree is never going to translate into real world racing skills.

Plus, im getting a subscription to iracing, i have to try their miata out! (what i race).

I love everything about the NFS Shift series. Apart from the boring menu's and lack of MP.

[2JZpower]

Originally Posted by Brainbug

i don´t think we need ANOTHER pros and cons thread. if u take ur time to read some threads here u will have all the facts about pros and cons. in the end u will only find out when racing it by ur own.

I read enough stuff and thats why i made this thread. If you noticed i really made a lack of threads since March 2010 when i joined.

The reason for this thread is the confusion. I read people SCOLDING the graphics and really disrespecting this game. Then i got people who SWEAR by the game, and finally i got people in between. I think if i get people to write what they really like, and what they really don't like i will go ahead and buy it.

[2JZpower]

Originally Posted by Brainbug

i don´t think we need ANOTHER pros and cons thread. if u take ur time to read some threads here u will have all the facts about pros and cons. in the end u will only find out when racing it by ur own.

link me to the pros and cons thread?

[redi]

Don't forget that patch #1 is due very soon that will resolve the lag and most of the graphics performance issues, and at least one more patch will be made in the near future. Hence, a lot of the current issues will be solved.

If you like race sims, S2U is the best thing you can buy ATM. IMHO.

[gears]

If you spent all that money for Shift 1, then it's a no brainer: buy Shift 2.

Even the people having problems with it will still say it's miles better than Shift 1.

[Shinzah]

Originally Posted by 2JZpower

Im not big into PC gaming. I still got my old ass computer when i used to play CSS as a teenager. Canada is shit, i can't use my sports car in the warmer weather ever, and even then track days are expensive and don't happen as often as i would like.

Whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Mosport has very affordable track days, and down here, we have somes pretty good weather, most of the time :/

Unless your up north or prairies. Then you shouldn't have bought that sports car

[martinsalat]

buy it,and have fun.

[EagleJohn]

Originally Posted by 2JZpower

I read enough stuff and thats why i made this thread. If you noticed i really made a lack of threads since March 2010 when i joined.

The reason for this thread is the confusion. I read people SCOLDING the graphics and really disrespecting this game. Then i got people who SWEAR by the game, and finally i got people in between. I think if i get people to write what they really like, and what they really don't like i will go ahead and buy it.

The graphics are simply great if you're playing on a PC that can run them on high. Complaints about the graphics must be coming from the console people, because those version obviously have inferior graphics to the PC version.

To make it simple, you should just buy the game, because it's totally worth it. One of the best racing games I know, and it's only gonna get better with more patches coming and mods.

BTW you will find people complaining about every game there is. Even if it's basically perfect, there will always be some people who aren't satisfied with it and will complain about everything.

[craigstys]

Be ready to be underimpressed and you will find it just OK. Both Shift1 and 2 need mods to even compete with true sims to remove the video game elements. Like totally wrong carnival tracks.

Shift2 mods will be slow as EA has done thier best to prevent it or make it easy.

At this point Shift1 with heavy mods is much more evolved. Shift 2 appears rushed and unfinished.

And both hit video cards way too hard for how they look.

The OP will find out Shift1 will run maxed out at 60FPS on HD res as it should, but Shift2 is going to cripple a 460 with more than 10 AI cars on a Quick Race. 40FPS and under. And you will run out of video memory at 768mb because I've seen well over 900 with cranked Shift2 settings. Heed my warning.

I can't run that great looking 458 Italia mod on Shift2 yet. Would be world class if I could.

I prefer Shift 1 modded.

[Tarilonte]

There are awesome graphics, and very well made cars !
It´s not a complex sim, but u don´t need nothing else to have a lot of fun !
I´ve a nice Driving Force Pro wheel, went to Logitech Profiler, checked -Combined Pedals, checked -Center Force, UNCHECKED -Allow Games Adjust Configs (don´t allow the game to adjust the wheel configs, it´s easier then a long setup)...
...In game I just set the Driving Control to my Driving Force Pro - and period.
The result - hours of fun!

[andymate]

I personally was not a huge fan of shift 1. The tire screeching put me off completely.

Shift 2 on the other hand has already had more play time then my copy of race07 which i bought over a year ago.

[Cheesenium]

It's quite shit in some ways.

I blame EA.

[redi]

Originally Posted by Cheesenium

It's quite shit in some ways.

I blame EA.

That's not really helpful. Argumentation please

[Cheesenium]

Originally Posted by redi

That's not really helpful. Argumentation please

Alright. Lets list them out.

What i like:
- The physics is good, as it felt pretty realistic.
- Great models and graphics, especially the hood reflections
- Decent car list, will be great if PC gets Legend DLC.
- I love the tracks available in the game. Some of them are so much fun to drive on. Such as Road America, Bathrust.
- Tiny little details like hood vibration when accelerating, or the net vibrating in Corvette GT3.
- The game have some of the best shadows i ever seen in the game.
- Tuning system is sweet, especially the tuning on the track feature.
- Autolog is a nice feature for Shift 2.

What i hate:
- AI ramming you frequently
- Sticky collision which is incredibly annoying. It does discourage you to ram other cars, but sometimes it will ruin the whole game because the AI rammed you.
- Horrible stock cars tuning, which is hard to drive
- No PC DLC, as usual, im quite pissed with the fact that they seem like they left the Legends portion as DLC. I blame EA.
- I find some events have vastly different difficulty.Retro is easy as chips, but GT3 is just incredibly difficult.
- The AI tend to use strange car combinations, like im driving a Works Lancia Delta, and the AI all drove Supra.
- Strange bugs where you dont get any money when you level up.
- The career seem to give you very little money. It's tough to get new cars sometimes, especially those hyper cars like Huayra or Veyron, without selling what you have now for one.
- Horrible livery editor. Very user unfriendly.

[JumpStart]

Originally Posted by Cheesenium

Alright. Lets list them out.
What i hate:
- AI ramming you frequently
- Sticky collision which is incredibly annoying. It does discourage you to ram other cars, but sometimes it will ruin the whole game because the AI rammed you.
- Horrible stock cars tuning, which is hard to drive
- No PC DLC, as usual, im quite pissed with the fact that they seem like they left the Legends portion as DLC. I blame EA.
- I find some events have vastly different difficulty.Retro is easy as chips, but GT3 is just incredibly difficult.
- The AI tend to use strange car combinations, like im driving a Works Lancia Delta, and the AI all drove Supra.
- Strange bugs where you dont get any money when you level up.
- The career seem to give you very little money. It's tough to get new cars sometimes, especially those hyper cars like Huayra or Veyron, without selling what you have now for one.
- Horrible livery editor. Very user unfriendly.

**No DLC... LOL, No Offense... WTF, You Hate no DLC... there is no DLC yet as the game has been out less than a moht!!

***Muscle cars easy, maybe... I beat them... but run a same class muscle car, same index and Elite Driving... no Assist... SAME as GT3 AI! Folks say its easy becasue they load up their car with upgrades and then race it. The AI does not have as many upgrades or keep up as you upgrade.

***Career gives low Money! I own many cars, upgrade to... as a career mode, its very fair. Plus the AI changes cars if you change... so you can rerace some events with a different car and find it very re-playable!!!

*** Horrible Stock Car tuning... the game offers standard cars which are not race cars, they have oversteer by default, no grip... as you upgrade all cars get better, than turn better, they stop better, the handle better. How is SMS suppose to show a car getting better if the stock model is as a race car!

*** The collision model is GREAT!!! Yes you can get hung up with tangled with another car... how many bump/smash and drive away unscathed??? Only NASCAR offers Rubbing is Racing!!!
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What is a shame is the fact that SMS released a Fantastic Game and though it does not offer simulated pit stops, fuel usage, tire wear as we all would like... it is simulating a race enviroment... Fast, Scary, aggressive, and exciting...!

[edubz123]

Sorry to burst your bubble but Shift2 will NOT play at constant 60 FPS w/ maxed out settings and 10+ AI drivers with the hardware you just bought (AMD 955 + Nvidia 460). On the other hand, Shift1 will run kick azz on that build. So maybe stick to Shift1 with some awesome mods until later this summer when the coast is clear for Shift2. (Just my opinion)

Luckily patches and new drivers are on the way so if you wait a little bit you will have a better first impression.

[JorgeAraujo]

Straight answer to your question 2JZPower: it's a great game. Tons of potential once the modders get the hang of it. But it's a great game once you get past the initial small defects (like the steering lag).

[EagleJohn]

Originally Posted by Cheesenium

- I find some events have vastly different difficulty.Retro is easy as chips, but GT3 is just incredibly difficult.

I've found them all quite easy to beat, even on hard. Once I take over all of the AI cars at the start I never see them again, and that's basically how it goes in every race.

You may have found GT3 more difficult because all cars there have the same rating and about the same statistics, so you have an even playing field, whereas you could have a car that is superior to others in the retro races. I guess you will also find GT1 more difficult than others.

[FAST_FJH]

Here is my take on the games that I own or have tried. This is in terms of does it make me think that I'm driving sim car or just playing agame. At the top is iracing. Next are GTR2(with or without mods) and rFactor(with mods). Close behind those two is Shift2. It has flaws noted all over in the forums and is generally too arcade like for me. Most all of the problems will probably be taken care of by patches and modders. Some distance behind is GT5 which I have not touched since I started Shift2. So, should you buy it? Well I played to level 18 at my first setting flaws and all. It's fun.Go ahead, buy it. You won't regret it.

[2JZpower]

Originally Posted by edubz123

Sorry to burst your bubble but Shift2 will NOT play at constant 60 FPS w/ maxed out settings and 10+ AI drivers with the hardware you just bought (AMD 955 + Nvidia 460). On the other hand, Shift1 will run kick azz on that build. So maybe stick to Shift1 with some awesome mods until later this summer when the coast is clear for Shift2. (Just my opinion)

Luckily patches and new drivers are on the way so if you wait a little bit you will have a better first impression.

What do you recommend then... i can order a i5 core-2500k instead and overclock to 4.5GHz however, i think its the GPU thats the bigger problem and i already bought it ... however if should overclock the shit out of the GPU

+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suCchv82HMk <-- lots of youtube vids at high res with GTX 460 at max settings seem to be doing fine?

[2JZpower]

Thanks for all the responses guys! I will go ahead and purchase a copy... once i GET MY FRIGGIN' WHEEL!!!!!! I was anticipating late April, like i was informed for 3 months but now the distributor is telling me i have to wait till June, wtf?

[helloworld]

Buy it through Steam?

[craigstys]

Originally Posted by 2JZpower

What do you recommend then... i can order a i5 core-2500k instead and overclock to 4.5GHz however, i think its the GPU thats the bigger problem and i already bought it ... however if should overclock the shit out of the GPU

+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suCchv82HMk <-- lots of youtube vids at high res with GTX 460 at max settings seem to be doing fine?

Fraps compresses video to run smoothly at 30FPS. It fools you into thinking the game runs smooth. 30FPS in game will be a dog. Both versions of Shift are GPU hogs, designed by EA to hardware upgrade. They just keep on piling up shadows and reflections every year.

You CPU will be fine. But if you want 60FPS steady at HD res with 10+ AI cars, I believe this new GPU hog will need two GTX560 cards or better in SLI to do it. It's that bad.

And a new PSU to handle 2 cards, and so on. To run as it should this can easily be $600 or more in PC upgrades. As per usual from EA.

[MaddmattH]

Originally Posted by craigstys

Fraps compresses video to run smoothly at 30FPS. It fools you into thinking the game runs smooth. 30FPS in game will be a dog. Both versions of Shift are GPU hogs, designed by EA to hardware upgrade. They just keep on piling up shadows and reflections every year...

*facepalm*
Utter crap.
Or you could just turn down graphics settings. The high settings are for those who can handle it, if your PC can't, do you expect them do rename the 'medium' settings to 'high' and make that the limit? Will that make you happy?

I have an HD6850. Runs fine near maxed out. Just dropped car detail to medium because high was a bit much at the starting grid on a night race (only affects LODs of opponent cars, you wont even see the difference). Game generally runs between 30-60 FPS depending on the situation, looks nice and smooth to me.
I also use morphological filtering for AA (ATI 5xxx series+ feature).


@OP:
4 months wait for a wheel? Surely you can get it somewhere else because if they can't even get your wheel in 4 months then it's hopeless. It's ridiculous that they even took your order, they should tell you that they can't get it.

[Scorz]

Originally Posted by FAST_FJH

Here is my take on the games that I own or have tried. This is in terms of does it make me think that I'm driving sim car or just playing agame. At the top is iracing. Next are GTR2(with or without mods) and rFactor(with mods). Close behind those two is Shift2. It has flaws noted all over in the forums and is generally too arcade like for me. Most all of the problems will probably be taken care of by patches and modders. Some distance behind is GT5 which I have not touched since I started Shift2. So, should you buy it? Well I played to level 18 at my first setting flaws and all. It's fun.Go ahead, buy it. You won't regret it.

I would agree with this but i would say SHIFT2 is pretty close to GTR2. iRacing is still clearly well ahead in terms of physics IMO and i have noticed it more the deeper i have got into SHIFT2. At first i was only really hotlapping nords with the Caterham and Radical.

Well, i fired up iRacing for the first time in a month last night and instantly prefer the way the Radical is on there. I was fighting like crazy with the car and it just made me buzz more. Now, before SHIFT2, iRacings Radical, i always found a very easy car to drive but all of a sudden i was struggling to keep it on track.

I personally think it's because i am now used to a decent tyre model that SHIFT2 has and iRacings sucks. But i tell you, going back to SHIFT2 again today, the Radical feels way too sticky.

Not sure what to think now as i was really hooked on SHIFT2 but i prefer fighting the Radical like i did in iRacing.

What is clear though is iRacing completely sucks graphically and audio wise and i don't like it. It's all to clean and clinical.

I just don't know what to think now tbh, wish i had not fired it up tbh. Really wish that Radical on SHIFT2 was a bit more crazy. It's unfair for me really to make the comparison but i literally switched between them both and was suprised. I still think the main factor is iRacings crappy tyre model that makes it harder if that makes sense as i said right away how much i liked SHIFT2's tyre model. Will be interesting to see what iRacings new tyre model feels like.

[BernL]

Originally Posted by Cheesenium

It's quite shit in some ways.

I blame EA.

[BernL]

Originally Posted by Cheesenium

Alright. Lets list them out.

What i like:
- The physics is good, as it felt pretty realistic.
- Great models and graphics, especially the hood reflections
- Decent car list, will be great if PC gets Legend DLC.
- I love the tracks available in the game. Some of them are so much fun to drive on. Such as Road America, Bathrust.
- Tiny little details like hood vibration when accelerating, or the net vibrating in Corvette GT3.
- The game have some of the best shadows i ever seen in the game.
- Tuning system is sweet, especially the tuning on the track feature.
- Autolog is a nice feature for Shift 2.

What i hate:
- AI ramming you frequently
- Sticky collision which is incredibly annoying. It does discourage you to ram other cars, but sometimes it will ruin the whole game because the AI rammed you.
- Horrible stock cars tuning, which is hard to drive
- No PC DLC, as usual, im quite pissed with the fact that they seem like they left the Legends portion as DLC. I blame EA.
- I find some events have vastly different difficulty.Retro is easy as chips, but GT3 is just incredibly difficult.
- The AI tend to use strange car combinations, like im driving a Works Lancia Delta, and the AI all drove Supra.
- Strange bugs where you dont get any money when you level up.
- The career seem to give you very little money. It's tough to get new cars sometimes, especially those hyper cars like Huayra or Veyron, without selling what you have now for one.
- Horrible livery editor. Very user unfriendly.

Yes the AI's seam to stick to you....lol....and sometimes you lose complete control over a little tap, agreed, but I'm still liking it....lol

[btfgator]

i purchased it yesterday, and have been having a blast driving through the career.

i bought the game to LAN yesterday, only to find out that it was not possible, and even navigating/hosting/finding the host/online play was a major headache.

However, coming from race sims i am pleased to say this is the first arcade game i have enjoyed. i was pissed after i bought GRID, DIRT, etc. But this one has given me lots of fun.

It is worth the price of purchase imo, there is tons of content.

[EagleJohn]

Originally Posted by nismogtr123

I just don't know what to think now tbh, wish i had not fired it up tbh. Really wish that Radical on SHIFT2 was a bit more crazy.

If you want the car to be harder to control, have you already tried tuning it with minimal downforce and other settings that make it harder?

[Scorz]

Originally Posted by JDougNY

@Nismo
What you're experiencing in Shift2 is the problem of aerodynamics that isn't fully utilized. It's the same aero that has been carried over game after game.
Specifically these values...

FWLiftSideways=(0.0)            // dropoff in downforce with yaw (0.0 = none, 1.0 = max)
RWLiftSideways=(0.0)            // dropoff in downforce with yaw (0.0 = none, 1.0 = max)
DiffuserSideways=(0.0)              // dropoff with yaw (0.0 = none, 1.0 = max)

One of the things I do with all physics is make all of the aero function (I learned about all of this from working with Djo on the Overhaul Mod). So, when you're turning, you loose some downforce and this will cause you to drive with a little more caution....because you'll experience some loss of grip when cornering/turning.

When things like this are fixed, along with other physics issues, it creates a more pleasant racing experience. I like the tire model used in Shift1 & Shift2...the physics just need some fine tuning....if the physics are setup specifically for each car, it's all the better.

Yeah i think you are right and i also think iRacings tyre model and lack of any decent aero model is a big factor like you say. It feels like your driving on ice in iRacing which is wrong but at the same time i prefer that skatty on the edge feel. It's odd as i do like the sensation of grip and aero in SHIFT2 and love the tyre model and that feeling of the tyres actually being on the track, very similar in feel to NetKar IMO but lacks the crazyness that i really enjoy

Originally Posted by EagleJohn

If you want the car to be harder to control, have you already tried tuning it with minimal downforce and other settings that make it harder?

Yes done that on day one and was happy with it but i just feel it's not lairy enough now. Although both the iRacing Radical and SHIFT2 are different models.

[SwedishFrog]

Yes. It is amazing, once you understand how important itvis to switch OFF VSYNC, TRIPLE BUFFER INGAME AND NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL.
It is do fun, nodding too...

[StonerPimp]

Originally Posted by SwedishFrog

Yes. It is amazing, once you understand how important itvis to switch OFF VSYNC, TRIPLE BUFFER INGAME AND NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL.
It is do fun, nodding too...

Not true (it being an important thing to do), i run with vsync and triple buffering on (screen tear in a racing game is a big no no for me), and all though in night races the framerate can drop to below 60 is still plays smoothly (this is at 1080p with max ingame settings), it's actully quite amazing how smoothly this game can play at sub 60FPS (possibly due to the way it's designed for 30FPS on consoles).

[KwameR]

S2U has problems left right and centre, and in many ways is just a hotlapping game that doesn't even record your individual lap times, so it will record your fastest lap, but no other lap.
Do you just like driving fast cars on some great tracks...if so, buy, but if you're looking for some sort of game, forget it, one of the worst games ever made due to the problems and omissions that pervade every aspect of it.

They need to dump MP, and do a proper SP mode/s or they'll never see a cent out of me again.

[Pierre61]

Originally Posted by StonerPimp

Not true (it being an important thing to do), i run with vsync and triple buffering on (screen tear in a racing game is a big no no for me), and all though in night races the framerate can drop to below 60 is still plays smoothly (this is at 1080p with max ingame settings), it's actully quite amazing how smoothly this game can play at sub 60FPS (possibly due to the way it's designed for 30FPS on consoles).

I have a comparatively modest system; C2D6400 @ 3Ghz , 1x HD5770, but I've found that by using RadeonPro and forcing double Vsynch to frame limit to 30FPS I can run max/high settings with normal AA and 16xAF at 1920x1080 without dropping frames (apart from some race starts) and zero tearing.

To be honest, it looks absolutely fine to me... but I am old... with rheumy eyes So if your senses are too feeble to tell much of a difference in 30/60 fps it may be worth an experiment.

[SwedishFrog]

Originally Posted by edubz123

Sorry to burst your bubble but Shift2 will NOT play at constant 60 FPS w/ maxed out settings and 10+ AI drivers with the hardware you just bought (AMD 955 + Nvidia 460). On the other hand, Shift1 will run kick azz on that build. So maybe stick to Shift1 with some awesome mods until later this summer when the coast is clear for Shift2. (Just my opinion)

Luckily patches and new drivers are on the way so if you wait a little bit you will have a better first impression.

Cool.
Depends upon your pc set up etc... I also reduce shadows to med/low....this kills fps....its all trial/error.

My X3 @ 3.4 + mb overvolted / DDR2 8th / GTX560-2GB sweetspot is OFF; I so rarely see screen tear ! At startup, maybe...patch is definitely smoother too.

Experiment what works best I say,....lol....
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[H3ll$pawn]

It's like a double edged knife:
I really like the game, till the steering loses all FFB and I can't control my car enymore cause of the increasing auto-countersteer.
Drifting is a painfull disappointment, guess I just played too much NFSU 2 and GRID.
Some career events are just plain wrong interms of car choice, you have to race in a certain car to be able to win(talking about the races where you can choose a car fyi.).

On-line is also a big letdown, just can't figure out why they let out text-chat, feels to "port-like".Rammers everywhere and young guns setting up races with high-powered cars on very tight tracks.
People say you can kick as a host when in lobby, but I'm yet too see that option on my end.
This is MY opinion...

[Stanny]

Well, I must admit I did not like the handling in the first Shift much but Shift 2 Unleashed is absolutely another. It is the best racing simulation for PC to my mind where the cars drive as they are meant to drive.

[Scorz]

I have changed my mind with this game. It's still great but it just doesn't grab me anymore. I'm bored crazy and tired of having to go through a career. My card died yesterday but before it went, there were a few nights where i really fancied SHIFT and then thought about that career and didn't boot it up.

I loved the first few weeks as i had my Radical and Caterham and nords, happy days. But i now want something faster and to get that, i have to do tiresome career races. I dunno, i'm just not used to this sort of stuff.

The cars and everything feels really great still but it just doesn't have that something to keep going back a month down the line. I find it frustrating having to go through countless races to get to the GT1 champ which was the whole appeal for me with this game.

I stick with a 7/10 as the game is superb but it just does not have that something to keep me going back now. Mianly due to the career. Alot like SHIFT for me in that sense, was wowed and then sort of just wore off for me. The lack of dedicated servers from the get go meant online was a no go for me tbh so that limits the time i would spend with it right away personally.,

[edubz123]

I saved up most of my early career cash just to get that AMR GT1. Now I can quick race a GT1 field and get my rush anytime. I barely touch the career stuff anymore (must have been 2 weeks now since I tried a career race). I got to level 16 primarily by quick racing. Agree with you, career races are a deterrent to me firing up this game.

Have you actually purchased any of the GT1 cars yet? You could get a trainer or one of those mods that gives you mucho currency for a quick race ala Shift1. Once you got a good garage of cars the game might pull you back in.

[DurgeDriven]

You confused because you listen to what other people tell you. !

Only persons opinion matters is YOURS.

[eldunhon]

For me is very good game.

[Scorz]

Originally Posted by edubz123

I saved up most of my early career cash just to get that AMR GT1. Now I can quick race a GT1 field and get my rush anytime. I barely touch the career stuff anymore (must have been 2 weeks now since I tried a career race). I got to level 16 primarily by quick racing. Agree with you, career races are a deterrent to me firing up this game.

Have you actually purchased any of the GT1 cars yet? You could get a trainer or one of those mods that gives you mucho currency for a quick race ala Shift1. Once you got a good garage of cars the game might pull you back in.

Yeah i tried the infinite money one mate before the patch but it did not allow me to but the GT1 car i wanted and or restricted you to certain cars. Needs modding for me personally and the career just done away with

Originally Posted by DurgeDriven

You confused because you listen to what other people tell you. !

Only persons opinion matters is YOURS.

What the hell are you talking about you fruitloop!