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Old 28 September 08, 22:13   #51
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I noticed in your post you said your PLR file contained this:

"Data Acquisition File="C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\[pacepusher]\race 07\UserData\vehicledata.spt"

Try removing the [] from around your name ...\steamapps\pacepusher\race 07... and see if that works.
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I noticed in your post you said your PLR file contained this:

"Data Acquisition File="C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\[pacepusher]\race 07\UserData\vehicledata.spt"

Try removing the [] from around your name ...\steamapps\pacepusher\race 07... and see if that works.
Hey Ian
You solved the mystery
It finally works.
I want to thank you Ian, and everyone else for helping me .


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Old 7 October 08, 10:24   #53
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hi,
i got a problem with motec.
the damper pos isn't available in my motec, so i can't analyse the dampers.
does somebody know, how i can get the damp pos?

here is a picture to show you what i mean:



greets basti

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Old 9 October 08, 01:55   #54
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Can anyone else download the project file? I can't download it
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Here you go mate, try this. It might have more files than you need as I didn't have the original rar file so this is what was in my motec project folder. Should work fine.
http://rapidshare.com/files/15253331..._GTR2.rar.html
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You can get it HERE. This needs extracting to My Documents\MoTeC Projects
When I click on the above link nothing happens? could someone please reupload this. cheers...
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Old 10 October 08, 01:42   #57
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You'll notice good changes in the GT Pro class cars in GTR-Evo and a track like Anders is quite flat with rumble strips if you want to test on them and also a wide range of corner types...
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Here you go mate, try this. It might have more files than you need as I didn't have the original rar file so this is what was in my motec project folder. Should work fine.
http://rapidshare.com/files/15253331..._GTR2.rar.html
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NP mate.
Got to say Spad, thanks so much for this info and the MOTeC project. I would say that this along with the GTR2 MoTeC Beginners Guide PDF is a must read for anyone who wants to get it right.
This needs to be stickied,
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I second the 'Sticky' part.

Spad, did you get the updated pdf??

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yeah, thanks for your help
but i still got the problem, that damper pos is still "unavailable". which motec version do you have?

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I second the 'Sticky' part.

Spad, did you get the updated pdf??

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Yes I did mate I did send an email yesterday did you get it? I ain't been feeling to good so not really done any work on it. I will def do some work on it the next week or so then we can get a more concise one out for people.

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yeah, thanks for your help
but i still got the problem, that damper pos is still "unavailable". which motec version do you have?
I run I2 Pro and I do not see it either. I think I originally used normal Motec but can't remember to be honest as I have been building this project using the ordinary program over the last 2 or 3 years and only updated to Pro earlier this year.

Leave it with me I will look into it.
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ok thanks
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So, what do you suggest for this:



This is on a Saleen S7-R

I would like to close the range a little on the rear, and guess that I need to get a lift on the front in the range from 0 to - & + 75 odd where the dip is...
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I assume the front is not sensitive enough on the small stuff there for the dampers(bump) are not doing much as compared to further outwards on the graph. A guess is the springs need to be softer?




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with regards to feel, the car is good but a little understeer at slow speeds and isn't getting the bite I'd like in the 1st to 3rd gear corners...
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THat looks good. THe dampers are running a tad slow so you could try speeding them up a tad by adding a click or two. Also look at this and try balancing your dampers out with it.

As for the under-steer in slow corners try softening the front ARB (Anti Roll Bar) and stiffen the rear. A softer front ARB will give you more bite on turn in and a stiff rear ARB should balance out the under-steer. Be careful you don;t over do it tho or you will unbalance the car. Do it bu one or two clicks at a time no more!

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cheers, will try, thanks for input!!
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I have Vista 64 and everytime I exit the track, my game crashes to the desktop. This happend after I changed my .plr to work with Motec.

I used this thread to change my PLR: http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/sh...ighlight=motec

I noticed that Fred9000 has the same problem as me, and we both have the same install (Vista 64, offline GTR E)

The weird thing is, it does make a motec file where I want it, but it's 0 Kb in size and MoTeC can't open it. So I think; GTR Evo makes the file, wants to put the data in, and crashes.

What's the solution to this irritating problem,

Thanks in advance.
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I can't help you I am afraid.

I am running XP.

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I have Vista 64 and everytime I exit the track, my game crashes to the desktop. This happend after I changed my .plr to work with Motec.

I used this thread to change my PLR: http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/sh...ighlight=motec

I noticed that Fred9000 has the same problem as me, and we both have the same install (Vista 64, offline GTR E)

The weird thing is, it does make a motec file where I want it, but it's 0 Kb in size and MoTeC can't open it. So I think; GTR Evo makes the file, wants to put the data in, and crashes.

What's the solution to this irritating problem,

Thanks in advance.
Exact same thing was happening here, turns out this was the problem:

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/show...5&postcount=11

At least this was how I fixed it. Works fine now!
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Exact same thing was happening here, turns out this was the problem:

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/show...5&postcount=11

At least this was how I fixed it. Works fine now!
True, I use a nocd.exe so I don't have to keep putting my DVD in the pc every now and then. Yes I'm lazy

Thanks mate!
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Thanks Spad, just getting into racing and trying to get the set-up better using Motec.
Your explanations are truly a gift to me as I haven't had a clue up until now.
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Default Dampers settings

For me in Motec the front dampers are more or less yellow and the rear dampers are blue. So it means that on the front their are underdamped and need to be speeded up and reversly at the back.

So do I have to use softer or harder settings on the front? For both rebound and bump?

If yes, then it means that at the front my dampers will be rather soft and they will be rather hard at the rear, but usually we should use soft dampers with soft springs and hard dampers with hard springs.

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I'm trying to do some car setup, but I'm getting something wrong in MOTEC.

The ride heights between front and back seems to be reversed. If I increase the height at the rear, in motec I see that the rear height is even more lower than the front height. And when I'm braking, it shows that the rear height is going lower than the front, which is not possible when braking.

Any idea? Is it possible to change some config file and reverse front and rear heights?

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Ye this is correct. Yellow is under-damped (need to be speeded up) and blue is over-damped (slow them down).

Springs can also have a direct effect on this. I would look at the front and rear damper position graph to make sure you are not running the springs to hard or to soft as well. If the position is low then you can increase the spring values by a couple of clicks and vice versa if they are to high.

Dampers do not work in the Hard or Soft arena. It is time rates.
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Hi Spad,

This is what I'm getting in attachment.

So what do I have to do? To speed up the front I have to increase the value or decrease it? And do I have to do it for bump and rebound too or only one of them? And How do I know if I have to do it for fast bump, slow bump, fast rebound and slow rebound?

If I want to change the springs. To make the rear being green, do I have to make it harder or softer as I have now?

I've also seen that height could have an impact on the colour. How Do I know what is best? Increasing/Decreasing rear height or harder/softer spring?
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I'm having a bit of trouble here with the MoTeC.exe file, I can't find it anywhere. I've downloaded from both the links here, and neither had it. Could someone please point out how I missed this, or why I can't find it?
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Have you downloaded the Motec Interpreter here: http://www.motec.com/software/latestreleases/

the software to download is "i2 Pro"
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Hi Spad,

Where have you found the formulas for the oversteer in you Motec project? Is it a book?
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Have you downloaded the Motec Interpreter here: http://www.motec.com/software/latestreleases/

the software to download is "i2 Pro"
Thanks a tonne
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Right now I have the stuff working, but the game dosen't appear to be recording the log file properly. When I try to open the file, it'll come up with this: (I've scratched my name for obvious reasons)


I know I've done something wrong in the process. A file has been made in the LogFile, but it's 0bytes big, so it dosen't read it.

I'm trying this with the Time Attack mode ingame, am I supposed to be using this mode or am I supposed to do something else, and is there anything I need to change ingame to make this work?
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Right now I have the stuff working, but the game dosen't appear to be recording the log file properly. When I try to open the file, it'll come up with this: (I've scratched my name for obvious reasons)


I know I've done something wrong in the process. A file has been made in the LogFile, but it's 0bytes big, so it dosen't read it.

I'm trying this with the Time Attack mode ingame, am I supposed to be using this mode or am I supposed to do something else, and is there anything I need to change ingame to make this work?
You first have to modify your .plr file to activate the data acquisition. It is located at the same place as the path for the "Data Acquisition File" below. Check which installation you choosed. If you are launching GTR using Steam, then you do what is written under Steam Install below.

It is important to set the "Data Acquisition In Race" to 1 and to add the full path (with the drive letter) to where you want your logged files to be generated, because the default relativ path is not recognize. So make sure the "MoTeC LogFolder" line below contains something like "C:\GTR\myLoggedFiles". Check that the path for "Data Acquisition EXE" is pointint to where you installed MOTEC.

Oflline Install:

Data Acquisition Rate="10" // rates 1, 2 ,5, *10*, 20, 50, 100
Data Acquisition In Race="1"
Data Acquisition EXE="C:\Program Files\MoTeC\i2\1.0\MoTeC.exe"
Data Acquisition File="C:\GTR-Evolution\userdata\vehicledata.spt"
MoTeC LogFolder="C:\MoTeC\Logged Data"

Steam Install:

Data Acquisition Rate="10" // rates 1, 2 ,5, *10*, 20, 50, 100
Data Acquisition In Race="1"
Data Acquisition EXE="C:\Program Files\MoTeC\i2\1.0\MoTeC.exe"
Data Acquisition File="C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\[Steam User Name]\race 07\UserData\vehicledata.spt"
MoTeC LogFolder="C:\MoTeC\Logged Data"


Then in the game, choose a training session for example and do some laps (It is not working with a Chrono session I think). Then you can open MOTEC and browse to you logged files folder to see and open your generated telemetry files.

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Thanks, but the only problem is I'd already done that last night and all. I've tried everything exactly like that, and it still didn't work properly.

My PLR Looks like this:

Data Acquisition Rate="10" // rates 1, 2 ,5, *10*, 20, 50, 100
Data Acquisition In Race="1"
Data Acquisition EXE="C:\Program Files\MoTeC\i2\1.0\MoTeC.exe"
Data Acquisition File="C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\GTR-Evolution\UserData\vehicledata.spt"
MoTeC LogFolder="C:\MoTeC\Logged Data"
MoTeC Minimum Time="20" // minimum MoTeC recording time (sec)
MoTeC Multiple Logs="1" // generate unique filename for each new log

(I installed Evo to My Documents rather than Program Files)

The game does generate the log files, after I close the event in which the game crashes a few seconds later. I think it's a problem rather with my game that in what I'm doing. I guess I'll give everything else a try, and if it dosen't work, oh well.


I tried Practice mode for a while now, and each time I want to return to garage the game crashes and makes another 0byte log file.

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Thanks, but the only problem is I'd already done that last night and all. I've tried everything exactly like that, and it still didn't work properly.

My PLR Looks like this:

Data Acquisition Rate="10" // rates 1, 2 ,5, *10*, 20, 50, 100
Data Acquisition In Race="1"
Data Acquisition EXE="C:\Program Files\MoTeC\i2\1.0\MoTeC.exe"
Data Acquisition File="C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\GTR-Evolution\UserData\vehicledata.spt"
MoTeC LogFolder="C:\MoTeC\Logged Data"
MoTeC Minimum Time="20" // minimum MoTeC recording time (sec)
MoTeC Multiple Logs="1" // generate unique filename for each new log

(I installed Evo to My Documents rather than Program Files)

The game does generate the log files, after I close the event in which the game crashes a few seconds later. I think it's a problem rather with my game that in what I'm doing. I guess I'll give everything else a try, and if it dosen't work, oh well.


I tried Practice mode for a while now, and each time I want to return to garage the game crashes and makes another 0byte log file.
No Idea about that problem. Does it crash too if you set Data Acquisition In Race to 0?

Have you tried to do a steam installation? There was a patch released for GTR-Evolution, but I couldn't get it, but with steam.
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No Idea about that problem. Does it crash too if you set Data Acquisition In Race to 0?

Have you tried to do a steam installation? There was a patch released for GTR-Evolution, but I couldn't get it, but with steam.
Well, it crashes randomly a lot actually. It's not the game I know, it's probably my PC, I really need to clean it out now.
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Well, it crashes randomly a lot actually. It's not the game I know, it's probably my PC, I really need to clean it out now.
Yes. Sorry for not being able to help, but a clean up would do it for sure.
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Yes. Sorry for not being able to help, but a clean up would do it for sure.
Nah, you still helped atleast to double check . Thanks anyway
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im going crazy,i tried everything but i can't get this to work.
Motec is logging the file correct because i tried to send it to a friend with working motec and he can open the log with no problem.
Can anyone see what the problem can be? i have tried reinstall of motec to the newest version but it is the same with the previouse version.
The logfile is 1 mb but i still dont see any data
I have attached a picture what it looks like when i try to open it (on top) and how it looks on my friends screen,notice the amount of laps and best laptime.
I also attached the actual logfile if someone wants to take a look
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I must admit Mikael that is a tad weird...

Your log file opens fine on mine! It maybe a good idea to go over the the info in your player file and make sure it is ok.
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did that already...i'll attach the plr aswell...
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The only difference between the PLR file of mine and yours is these 2 lines:

Data Acquisition Rate="10" // rates 1, 2 ,5, *10*, 20, 50, 100 - Yours is set to 20

MoTeC Minimum Time="20" // minimum MoTeC recording time (sec) - Yours is set to 50

Maybe worth setting the same as I have and see what happens?
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that is one of things i changed to see if it was any difference and it wasn't
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I must admit I am a tad stumped...

But one thing I did notice is you have Data Acquisition In Race="0" and yours has a 1... have you tried this to?
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i suppose you mean YOU have 0 and mine is 1? if so,isn't the 1 the value that tells the game to logg the data?

in all threads i've seen this is the only change needed to get motec working that you change Data Acquisition In Race="0" to Data Acquisition In Race="1"
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i just tried to set the Data Acquisition In Race="0" and reset the
Data Acquisition Rate="10" // rates 1, 2 ,5, *10*, 20, 50, 100
also tried to change the
MoTeC Minimum Time="20" // minimum MoTeC recording time (sec)

still same problem persists
i also tried to delete all the projects and reinstall them but same thing.
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I know this is a bit trivial but from your screen shot have you added the files and then opened them? Your screen shot only shows you viewing the files and not having added them and then opened them?
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yes i did....thx for trying but i also installed motec today on my 2nd computer and there i can open the files with no problem what so ever....so,conclusion is,no problem with software,not the game,not motec,and not the settings....something in this computer is stopping the files from showing correctly...next step for me is to uninstall motec and search the register looking for any trace of motec files then reinstal it again and see if that helps.
I also tried to open everything that has to do with the game or motec in the antivirus and firewall but no luck.
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Spad, I have a project file of yours, and it had the "1: driver analysis" section, that includes weather and such. However it got corrupted when my compute randomly restarted while using i2pro
So I downloaded the project linked at the beginning of this thread, but for the first section it just has "1: Vistual Dash" , NOT driver analysis with weather and like 8 tabs. Yes that's right it's spelled "Vistual" not "Virtual"!! Maybe this will help identify what I mean.

To put it shortly, where is the project file that was used in making the pdf "GTR2 MoTeC i2 Pro Beginner's Guide"??? In that pdf I can clearly see the complete first section.

Thanks in advance

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question: you have the colour range set from 0 to 80 on the damper position, how did you decide on '80'?
I'm also wondering how you decided on 80 ? Maybe you could tell why
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