A question: The blank spots in track selection

~~Husky42~~ · 25 October 08, 14:03

So i have a question, something kinda annoying me here.

With a large number of addon tracks i have a large section at the top of my track selection list that is empty - if you click in it it says track needs to be unlocked - obviously it is not related to a specific track as they are all unlocked by why is this big empty nothingness here and how does one get rid of it?

Been going through each individual track looking for errors and duplicates. Still lost here.

Khan1670 · 25 October 08, 14:08

If you have extra .trk's in your locations directory they show up in your tracklist as blank entries.

Some tracks have extra useless ones that can be deleted. They may also appear if you're making or converting tracks and maybe have backup .trk's in the track directory

PhilH959 · 25 October 08, 14:10

Good question and answer...I too have them...huh. Guess I will look for extra trk's now

~~Husky42~~ · 25 October 08, 14:17

Thanks Khan. I kinda figured that to be the case as i've been finding a lot of duplicates.

Been driving every single track i have and weeding out my install. Only trying to keep quality stuff lol. Kinda hard when i've converted so much crap on my own plus the stuff her and elsewhere.

pÅrrÅ_dØxx · 26 October 08, 01:34

I'm with Phil: great question (it's been bugging me for a long time too) and great answer! Thanks!

scottj63 · 26 October 08, 02:24

My problem will now be, that I don't have a clue what .trk are extra and what ones are needed.

scott in usa (for 2 more days)

Khan1670 · 26 October 08, 03:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottj63

My problem will now be, that I don't have a clue what .trk are extra and what ones are needed.

scott in usa (for 2 more days)

Well the good one's will have other files associated with them.

For example, Spa 2003 has a 3Spa.trk. Along with it are the 3Spa.gdb, 3Spa.cam, 3Spa.AIW, etc.

The .trk's you don't want won't have that.

Tracks like the 1st Rattlesnake point had extra .trk's like noname.trk.

If you use 3dsimed to convert tracks you might have files called _output.trk lying around. These will all cause false entries in the tracklist.

~~Husky42~~ · 26 October 08, 03:19

Another think is if you have GPL Tracks from LKW - In his objects folder are extra trk files.

Also duplicate trk entires say you have A folder called Laguna01 and Laguna02 but both have laguna.trk - I noticed this created extra also i believe.

I managed to clear them all keep my tracks working and have 0 empty spots now

PhilH959 · 22 September 09, 02:27

bump!

zuhairreza · 5 January 10, 22:56

bump!

having same problem, i deleted some extra .TRK files from the track folders but the blank spot still remains!! any idea what i can do?

alexSchmurtz · 6 January 10, 07:55

Look for more! Sometimes it is hidden in subfolders... I completely cleared my list just by removing those loose .TRK files. Best bet is you missed some.

BillBro · 6 January 10, 13:14

If you have a lot of tracks, like I do, it can be tedious to go through and find them all, especially if there's just 1 or 2.

I found that I can speed up that process by moving groups of track folders to a temp location, firing up the game, and checking to see if the blank spots are there. If not, I at least know that the problem is somewhere with those tracks. If it is still there, move another group of folders, and check again.

They're easier/quicker to find in a smaller group.

sunalp2 · 6 January 10, 13:22

Glad I stumbled on this thread. Looking through all my folders now.

I've also got _output.trk from 3dSimEd in folders inside my WIP's.

I'm adding .bu behind them so I can keep the back up .trk files.

PhilH959 · 6 January 10, 17:27

Seriously?...it should be a sticky!

Good stuff!

Phil

sunalp2 · 6 January 10, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilH959

it should be a sticky!

Phil

Good thinking.

It should also be in the GTL Forum.

gstaraz · 7 January 10, 19:05

Thanks for the info!

Pokkel121 · 2 March 10, 10:38

Thanks for the info +1. No more blank spaces in my track selection screens

bob gnarley · 12 March 10, 13:16

Anneau Du Rhin 2008 V1.0 & Le Mas Du Clos 2006 V1.0 both have a couple of extra .TRK files that can be removed.
See the "read me" files.

BarbaricAvatar · 16 July 10, 14:56

Singapore08 has one.

rickoshea100 · 13 January 11, 06:41

Here's an interesting thing, while looking at a car blah blah_TEX.GTR file with Geditor i found an _output.trk file in there, so i had a look at a few more & it seems for some unknown reason quite a few add-on mods\cars have them in? & its not only the car files, can be the CPIT or Wheel files too.. gonna take me years to find them all.

sunalp2 · 13 January 11, 09:22

Do a search from your start menu.

rickoshea100 · 14 January 11, 07:17

Will that find them? because the one's i've found so far have been packed into .GTR files.
& i think i know why now, to pack dds & gmt files with gEditor you have to import a file first (correct me if i'm wrong) so importing any old file like _output.trk means that it stays in the packed .gtr file. Which will give you the blank spaces? so all the modders had to do was delete _output.trk before packing it. Am i on the right track here (pardon the pun)

sunalp2 · 14 January 11, 08:52

I'm pretty sure that the ones in the GTR files will not cause any problems.

jbaron · 5 April 11, 10:41

hi guys,

Curiously, these days I´m getting mad because of the same problem.

I´ll try now to fix it with all this information.

Thanks a lot,

Jorge Barón

VitalBlurs · 21 June 12, 04:31

I have about 5 blank spots at the top of my tracklist and they are all locked tracks.

They're not duplicates though (all of my tracks have just one .trk file....no extras)

I tried the SDNSTG.DYN file but it only unlocked the remaining default tracks....not the handful of add-ons.

Anyone else experience this problem before?

sunalp2 · 21 June 12, 07:34

Using the SEARCH function from your start bar, look for output.trk files.

VitalBlurs · 21 June 12, 07:58

I did a full search for any files called output.trk

None were found.

PhilH959 · 21 June 12, 10:53

Try searching just .trk. Then look for those that are not asscociated with the name of the track.. I.E. "space".trk, noname.trk etc. (read post 7)

Phil

VitalBlurs · 21 June 12, 11:26

Thanks Phil

Yep, I used the *.trk method to search for all files ending in .trk

There is 1 .trk file for each track (one for each GTL track too)

Interestingly, I've noticed which tracks aren't showing up in the game.....

70LeMans
70Sebring
Croft07
(I think the two 7's are coincidental

)

All of which have their own .trk file in their respective folders. Yet they're not seen in the search results......hmmm.

sunalp2 · 22 June 12, 02:09

Have a look in the .gdb file to see if they are locked.

VitalBlurs · 22 June 12, 03:08

Ok....the tracks coming up blank don't have .gdb files.

I'll download them again and see if they appear.

Thanks.

VitalBlurs · 22 June 12, 07:09

Yep, that's why the tracks weren't appearing for me. I wonder where those files went......and why they went....

Thanks for help people

25 October 08, 14:03	#1
~~Husky42~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Old Haven	A question: The blank spots in track selection So i have a question, something kinda annoying me here. With a large number of addon tracks i have a large section at the top of my track selection list that is empty - if you click in it it says track needs to be unlocked - obviously it is not related to a specific track as they are all unlocked by why is this big empty nothingness here and how does one get rid of it? Been going through each individual track looking for errors and duplicates. Still lost here.

5 January 10, 22:56	#10
zuhairreza Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New York City Age: 21	bump! having same problem, i deleted some extra .TRK files from the track folders but the blank spot still remains!! any idea what i can do? Last edited by zuhairreza; 5 January 10 at 23:15.

12 March 10, 13:16	#18
bob gnarley Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Noah vale	Anneau Du Rhin 2008 V1.0 & Le Mas Du Clos 2006 V1.0 both have a couple of extra .TRK files that can be removed. See the "read me" files. Last edited by bob gnarley; 12 March 10 at 13:37.

21 June 12, 11:26	#29
VitalBlurs Join Date: Apr 2012	Thanks Phil Yep, I used the .trk method to search for all files ending in .trk There is 1 .trk file for each track (one for each GTL track too) Interestingly, I've noticed which tracks aren't showing up in the game..... 70LeMans 70Sebring Croft07 (I think the two 7's are coincidental ) All of which have their own .trk file in their respective folders. Yet they're not seen in the search results......hmmm. Last edited by VitalBlurs; 22 June 12 at 03:06.*

25 October 08, 14:08	#2
Khan1670 Uploader Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada	If you have extra .trk's in your locations directory they show up in your tracklist as blank entries. Some tracks have extra useless ones that can be deleted. They may also appear if you're making or converting tracks and maybe have backup .trk's in the track directory

25 October 08, 14:10	#3
PhilH959 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 54	Good question and answer...I too have them...huh. Guess I will look for extra trk's now

25 October 08, 14:17	#4
~~Husky42~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Old Haven	Thanks Khan. I kinda figured that to be the case as i've been finding a lot of duplicates. Been driving every single track i have and weeding out my install. Only trying to keep quality stuff lol. Kinda hard when i've converted so much crap on my own plus the stuff her and elsewhere.

26 October 08, 01:34	#5
pÅrrÅ_dØxx Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 39	I'm with Phil: great question (it's been bugging me for a long time too) and great answer! Thanks!

26 October 08, 02:24	#6
scottj63 Join Date: Mar 2007	My problem will now be, that I don't have a clue what .trk are extra and what ones are needed. scott in usa (for 2 more days)

26 October 08, 03:19	#8
~~Husky42~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Old Haven	Another think is if you have GPL Tracks from LKW - In his objects folder are extra trk files. Also duplicate trk entires say you have A folder called Laguna01 and Laguna02 but both have laguna.trk - I noticed this created extra also i believe. I managed to clear them all keep my tracks working and have 0 empty spots now

22 September 09, 02:27	#9
PhilH959 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 54	bump!

6 January 10, 07:55	#11
alexSchmurtz Uploader Join Date: Sep 2006	Look for more! Sometimes it is hidden in subfolders... I completely cleared my list just by removing those loose .TRK files. Best bet is you missed some.

6 January 10, 13:14	#12
BillBro Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southern California, USA	If you have a lot of tracks, like I do, it can be tedious to go through and find them all, especially if there's just 1 or 2. I found that I can speed up that process by moving groups of track folders to a temp location, firing up the game, and checking to see if the blank spots are there. If not, I at least know that the problem is somewhere with those tracks. If it is still there, move another group of folders, and check again. They're easier/quicker to find in a smaller group.

6 January 10, 13:22	#13
sunalp2 Grease Monkey Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne. Age: 61	Glad I stumbled on this thread. Looking through all my folders now. I've also got _output.trk from 3dSimEd in folders inside my WIP's. I'm adding .bu behind them so I can keep the back up .trk files.

6 January 10, 17:27	#14
PhilH959 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 54	Seriously?...it should be a sticky! Good stuff! Phil

7 January 10, 19:05	#16
gstaraz Track Builder Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: EU, Croatia, Rijeka Age: 41	Thanks for the info!

2 March 10, 10:38	#17
Pokkel121 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Africa Age: 32	Thanks for the info +1. No more blank spaces in my track selection screens

16 July 10, 14:56	#19
BarbaricAvatar Join Date: Dec 2009	Singapore08 has one.

13 January 11, 06:41	#20
rickoshea100 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Near Brands	Here's an interesting thing, while looking at a car blah blah_TEX.GTR file with Geditor i found an _output.trk file in there, so i had a look at a few more & it seems for some unknown reason quite a few add-on mods\cars have them in? & its not only the car files, can be the CPIT or Wheel files too.. gonna take me years to find them all.

13 January 11, 09:22	#21
sunalp2 Grease Monkey Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne. Age: 61	Do a search from your start menu.

14 January 11, 07:17	#22
rickoshea100 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Near Brands	Will that find them? because the one's i've found so far have been packed into .GTR files. & i think i know why now, to pack dds & gmt files with gEditor you have to import a file first (correct me if i'm wrong) so importing any old file like _output.trk means that it stays in the packed .gtr file. Which will give you the blank spaces? so all the modders had to do was delete _output.trk before packing it. Am i on the right track here (pardon the pun)

14 January 11, 08:52	#23
sunalp2 Grease Monkey Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne. Age: 61	I'm pretty sure that the ones in the GTR files will not cause any problems.

5 April 11, 10:41	#24
jbaron Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Madrid	hi guys, Curiously, these days I´m getting mad because of the same problem. I´ll try now to fix it with all this information. Thanks a lot, Jorge Barón

21 June 12, 04:31	#25
VitalBlurs Join Date: Apr 2012	I have about 5 blank spots at the top of my tracklist and they are all locked tracks. They're not duplicates though (all of my tracks have just one .trk file....no extras) I tried the SDNSTG.DYN file but it only unlocked the remaining default tracks....not the handful of add-ons. Anyone else experience this problem before?

21 June 12, 07:34	#26
sunalp2 Grease Monkey Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne. Age: 61	Using the SEARCH function from your start bar, look for output.trk files.

21 June 12, 07:58	#27
VitalBlurs Join Date: Apr 2012	I did a full search for any files called output.trk None were found.

21 June 12, 10:53	#28
PhilH959 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 54	Try searching just .trk. Then look for those that are not asscociated with the name of the track.. I.E. "space".trk, noname.trk etc. (read post 7) Phil

22 June 12, 02:09	#30
sunalp2 Grease Monkey Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne. Age: 61	Have a look in the .gdb file to see if they are locked.

22 June 12, 03:08	#31
VitalBlurs Join Date: Apr 2012	Ok....the tracks coming up blank don't have .gdb files. I'll download them again and see if they appear. Thanks.

22 June 12, 07:09	#32
VitalBlurs Join Date: Apr 2012	Yep, that's why the tracks weren't appearing for me. I wonder where those files went......and why they went.... Thanks for help people