Searching for realfeel and leoffb Settings !!!

mickey65 · 9 November 08, 22:18

Big Disappointing about the Community,
by rfactorcentral i comment and please about help by realfeel and leoffb settings for a lot of mods, by RSC also and dont get any Helps !!!

Very bad Community hope here its better !!!

Search help for Jolos GTL Mod, the GP2 Mods 2006 and the new 2008, the F3 Mod from Japan and other !!!

In my opinion many people will be happy about this !!!!

snowy · 9 November 08, 22:29

Have you tried Controller Central?

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/controller/realfeel.cfm

or the realffeal thread at RSC?

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=291072

I very much doubt you will find much joy here as the rFactor guys are quite thin on the ground here these days.

mickey65 · 9 November 08, 22:39

Thanks Snowy,

this 2 Thread a know, i am in RSC since 2001 with another nickname but the same cars as avatar

I realize that the mod community make a very bad developement since 2000-2001 i am very disappoiting !!

You Snowy make a fantastic Job and helps very well thank you !!!!

mickey65 · 9 November 08, 22:49

Here is a thread about the leoffb settings

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/show...295368&page=12

A good ffb is getting with combine from realfeel and leoffb !!

NitrousOxideUK · 10 November 08, 19:37

There is no definitive Realfeel value for each mod out there, as we do not all have the same wheel; same controller.ini; same wheel setup in our Windows Control Panel etc. etc. It really is worth you spending an hour or two finding out the right Realfeel value for your computer setup and all your favourite mods.

When I want to find a good Realfeel for a new mod, I edit the "realfeel.ini" so that the console is enabled, as well as run Rfactor in windowed mode.

I then start up a test session at the full course version of Oulton Park 2005. I put the console window to the side of the Rfactor window, making it as tall as possible. I then drive the track, keeping an eye on the "%" value in the console. From memory, I think that the biggest bump on the track is around the area of that first chicane. I then adjust the Realfeel value so that the "%" value never goes above 100%, using the Ctrl keys (left for 1000 jumps, right for 100 jumps) and the Numpad 7/9 keys.

If the steering feels really odd when trying to weave just off going straight, you need to hit Right Ctrl + Numpad 8 once to reverse the polarity of the Realfeel value.

Good luck, happy tweaking!

pk500 · 20 November 08, 04:43

You can also use MoTeC telemetry to determine the MaxForceAtSteeringRack data, which is easier than using the console window. It also gives you a precise indication if the force was realistic or artificial -- a bump or heavy curb hit -- through the track map corresponding with the telemetry graphs.

Take care,
PK

Siggs · 5 December 08, 19:29

Are there any good RealFeels out there for the RaceX 1.25? Im having trouble finding one. I wouldn't say I'm qualified to make one myself, only having used a FFB wheel for a day, and not driving

Cheers, Siggs
.

AeroMechanical · 6 December 08, 01:11

Look up the RealFeel hotkeys (a combination of either left/right control and the number pad keys).

Using these, I can have RealFeel set up properly within 30 seconds of getting out on the track.

Settings to change are 'smoothing' which is usually best set to zero (right-control numpad 0 / delete to decrease/increase respectively), force direction (right control + numpad 8 --it's a toggle, either one way or the other), and maxforce which will vary usually between 1000 and 6000 depending on the mod, typically 2000 (right-control + numpad 7 / 8 to decrease/increase respectively by 1000's (lower number = more force), or left-control + same keys by 100's).

There is also a damper setting but nobody uses this. Just set it higher than your maxforce setting, which disables damping.

So:

Force Direction
Smoothing
MaxForce

Are pretty much the only settings you need to worry about. Once you set it up using the hotkeys in game, the settings will be saved. It's a matter of preference.

Once you learn the hotkeys, it's very easy. You will find that some mods just don't support RealFeel properly in which case no settings will give satisfactory results.

Siggs · 6 December 08, 02:38

Thanks for the reply Aero, but I've got a snag...my laptop has no numberpad.

At the moment, I'm wandering around online, and filling in the cars that have RealFeel setups. The cars that i can't find, i replace with the most appropriate. For example, the M3 E92 from RaceX is running the Chevy Corvette settings, and the F3000 conversion running a F3 Euro setting.
.

TICTOC · 6 December 08, 04:45

Mickey, if you have a look at any mod on
rFactorCentral, there is a 'profile' down
the right hand side of the screen.
The last option to click and view in the
profile column is RealFeel. This is a section
where people have given their realfeel
settings for that mod, and includes ratings
by other users. The beauty of realfeel is
that it is CAR specific, not MOD specific,
so you can set it to how you like for every
type of car you have in the sim.

I wouldn't knock rFactorCentral, it's not
strictly a forum site like NoGrip, but the
cross referencing of all things to do with
mods, skins, setups, sceenshots, other
downloads by the same modder, is second
to none.

I suggest doing what AeroMechanical suggested,
get used to using the hotkeys, and you'll have
every car running just how you like it in seconds.

Cam.

pk500 · 9 December 08, 15:12

Siggs:

Your laptop has no NumLock key that allows you to use existing number keys in a keypad format? I've never owned a lappy that doesn't have that function.

Give it a look!

Take care,
PK

9 November 08, 22:18	#1
mickey65 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the deep wood of Germany	Searching for realfeel and leoffb Settings !!! Big Disappointing about the Community, by rfactorcentral i comment and please about help by realfeel and leoffb settings for a lot of mods, by RSC also and dont get any Helps !!! Very bad Community hope here its better !!! Search help for Jolos GTL Mod, the GP2 Mods 2006 and the new 2008, the F3 Mod from Japan and other !!! In my opinion many people will be happy about this !!!!

9 November 08, 22:29	#2
snowy Uploader Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK	Have you tried Controller Central? http://www.rfactorcentral.com/controller/realfeel.cfm or the realffeal thread at RSC? http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=291072 I very much doubt you will find much joy here as the rFactor guys are quite thin on the ground here these days.

9 November 08, 22:39	#3
mickey65 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the deep wood of Germany	Thanks Snowy, this 2 Thread a know, i am in RSC since 2001 with another nickname but the same cars as avatar I realize that the mod community make a very bad developement since 2000-2001 i am very disappoiting !! You Snowy make a fantastic Job and helps very well thank you !!!!

9 November 08, 22:49	#4
mickey65 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the deep wood of Germany	Here is a thread about the leoffb settings http://forum.racesimcentral.com/show...295368&page=12 A good ffb is getting with combine from realfeel and leoffb !!

10 November 08, 19:37	#5
NitrousOxideUK Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southampton Age: 39	There is no definitive Realfeel value for each mod out there, as we do not all have the same wheel; same controller.ini; same wheel setup in our Windows Control Panel etc. etc. It really is worth you spending an hour or two finding out the right Realfeel value for your computer setup and all your favourite mods. When I want to find a good Realfeel for a new mod, I edit the "realfeel.ini" so that the console is enabled, as well as run Rfactor in windowed mode. I then start up a test session at the full course version of Oulton Park 2005. I put the console window to the side of the Rfactor window, making it as tall as possible. I then drive the track, keeping an eye on the "%" value in the console. From memory, I think that the biggest bump on the track is around the area of that first chicane. I then adjust the Realfeel value so that the "%" value never goes above 100%, using the Ctrl keys (left for 1000 jumps, right for 100 jumps) and the Numpad 7/9 keys. If the steering feels really odd when trying to weave just off going straight, you need to hit Right Ctrl + Numpad 8 once to reverse the polarity of the Realfeel value. Good luck, happy tweaking!

20 November 08, 04:43	#6
pk500 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near Syracuse, N.Y. Age: 47	You can also use MoTeC telemetry to determine the MaxForceAtSteeringRack data, which is easier than using the console window. It also gives you a precise indication if the force was realistic or artificial -- a bump or heavy curb hit -- through the track map corresponding with the telemetry graphs. Take care, PK

5 December 08, 19:29	#7
Siggs Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry Age: 22	Are there any good RealFeels out there for the RaceX 1.25? Im having trouble finding one. I wouldn't say I'm qualified to make one myself, only having used a FFB wheel for a day, and not driving Cheers, Siggs .

6 December 08, 01:11	#8
AeroMechanical Join Date: Dec 2006	Look up the RealFeel hotkeys (a combination of either left/right control and the number pad keys). Using these, I can have RealFeel set up properly within 30 seconds of getting out on the track. Settings to change are 'smoothing' which is usually best set to zero (right-control numpad 0 / delete to decrease/increase respectively), force direction (right control + numpad 8 --it's a toggle, either one way or the other), and maxforce which will vary usually between 1000 and 6000 depending on the mod, typically 2000 (right-control + numpad 7 / 8 to decrease/increase respectively by 1000's (lower number = more force), or left-control + same keys by 100's). There is also a damper setting but nobody uses this. Just set it higher than your maxforce setting, which disables damping. So: Force Direction Smoothing MaxForce Are pretty much the only settings you need to worry about. Once you set it up using the hotkeys in game, the settings will be saved. It's a matter of preference. Once you learn the hotkeys, it's very easy. You will find that some mods just don't support RealFeel properly in which case no settings will give satisfactory results.

6 December 08, 02:38	#9
Siggs Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry Age: 22	Thanks for the reply Aero, but I've got a snag...my laptop has no numberpad. At the moment, I'm wandering around online, and filling in the cars that have RealFeel setups. The cars that i can't find, i replace with the most appropriate. For example, the M3 E92 from RaceX is running the Chevy Corvette settings, and the F3000 conversion running a F3 Euro setting. .

6 December 08, 04:45	#10
TICTOC Uploader Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 45	Mickey, if you have a look at any mod on rFactorCentral, there is a 'profile' down the right hand side of the screen. The last option to click and view in the profile column is RealFeel. This is a section where people have given their realfeel settings for that mod, and includes ratings by other users. The beauty of realfeel is that it is CAR specific, not MOD specific, so you can set it to how you like for every type of car you have in the sim. I wouldn't knock rFactorCentral, it's not strictly a forum site like NoGrip, but the cross referencing of all things to do with mods, skins, setups, sceenshots, other downloads by the same modder, is second to none. I suggest doing what AeroMechanical suggested, get used to using the hotkeys, and you'll have every car running just how you like it in seconds. Cam.

9 December 08, 15:12	#11
pk500 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near Syracuse, N.Y. Age: 47	Siggs: Your laptop has no NumLock key that allows you to use existing number keys in a keypad format? I've never owned a lappy that doesn't have that function. Give it a look! Take care, PK