tire temps BMW 320

ktmrandy · 7 December 08, 00:06

I am driving the BMW 320 and the tires begin to lock up under extreme braking (top of 4th or 5th gear down to 2nd gear) after 3 or 4 laps. It brakes very well up to that point. The tire temps are 150 up front and 165 on the rear. Is there any thing I can do about this? Are their other tire options?
Overall handling does not seem to be affected.

Pizzaman · 7 December 08, 21:21

Uhh... it probably means youa re:

- driving too fast...
- maybe you have the tyre pressure wong (check in the garage);
- maybe you have too much toe-in.

150 front and 165 rear is very high. You are cooking the tyres.
If you have very good grip on lap 1, something may be wrong as usually you need 1 or 2 laps to warm the tyres.

Sarafan · 8 December 08, 16:57

If you're tyres smoke a lot in the turns, it can cause them to heat up very fast as well. Same with locking your brakes.

This guide may provide a few new insights. Obviously, not everything is applicable for GTL but it's a good read

dartguy · 9 December 08, 02:30

I think maybe he means 150 F and 165 F. If that's the case, they aren't very hot.

ktmrandy · 9 December 08, 05:44

The tire temps I mentioned are F so after more research the range is 170 to 200 so my tires are not very hot so I am starting to think I am overheating the brakes. The car starts out stopping in a straight line from 5th gear to 2nd gear but after a few laps it gets real squirrely like the bias moved to the rear and the front have faded and no longer slow down the car and the rears lock up. I have to pump the brakes to keep the car going straight but it takes longer to stop so I am slower. Lots to learn here it looks like. On the slower tracks where I only shift down 1 gear for corners there is not a problem. Maybe I can install air ducts and bleed the brake lines. Maybe put in steel brake lines.

Pizzaman · 9 December 08, 08:18

I'd shift the balance forward and see what it does.
Also shift down when you brake, which helps.

jukez · 9 December 08, 08:31

I had some problems with the brakes of 320 as well. I think I moved the balance more to front. I found the brakes for BMW 320 very powerful compared to default GTL cars.

You can also try to decrease the max brake power %. Also adding coast % value helps to stabilize car while braking.

-Jukka

ktmrandy · 9 December 08, 23:19

I think I just have to be carefull when I brake. Early in the race it is great then they get squirrely somethimes. I have adjusted the bias front and back but it only works for awhile then goes squirrely again. If I shift this car down while braking it spins me around so I usually brake but don't shift down until it is time to go. I have the coast set to 70 now and like how it works. The car slides well and is predictable if I have to drift it around.

Jadran · 21 December 08, 16:18

Question about tyres.
How I can see tyre temp in game?
Thanks for replay.

salute
Jadran

dartguy · 22 December 08, 01:45

Use GTR2-XD. Search this site for a link.

EDIT: Here it is: http://www.vitumo.de/

~~gazman~~ · 22 December 08, 02:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jadran

Question about tyres.
How I can see tyre temp in game?
Thanks for replay.

salute
Jadran

G15 keyboard works great. It costs a bit more than GTR2 XD .

tarkus07 · 22 December 08, 03:34

Well, it could be many things, but try to go easy with the brake pedal and like Pizzaman mentioned try downshifting while braking-it does help.

Jadran · 22 December 08, 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by dartguy

Use GTR2-XD. Search this site for a link.

EDIT: Here it is: http://www.vitumo.de/

I try everything but always same problem-game will not start

(look picture)
In GTR2 works fine

Sorry for bad english

salute
Jadran

dartguy · 23 December 08, 01:50

Sorry Jadran,

I thought you were playing GTR-2. It may not work in GTL. i should learn to read a little better.

Jadran · 23 December 08, 18:37

Ok,no problem

7 December 08, 00:06	#1
ktmrandy Join Date: Oct 2008	tire temps BMW 320 I am driving the BMW 320 and the tires begin to lock up under extreme braking (top of 4th or 5th gear down to 2nd gear) after 3 or 4 laps. It brakes very well up to that point. The tire temps are 150 up front and 165 on the rear. Is there any thing I can do about this? Are their other tire options? Overall handling does not seem to be affected.

22 December 08, 01:45	#10
dartguy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisville Age: 42	Use GTR2-XD. Search this site for a link. EDIT: Here it is: http://www.vitumo.de/ Last edited by dartguy; 22 December 08 at 02:05.

7 December 08, 21:21	#2
Pizzaman Minifreak & Muscleman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Groningen Centre of the Universe	Uhh... it probably means youa re: - driving too fast... - maybe you have the tyre pressure wong (check in the garage); - maybe you have too much toe-in. 150 front and 165 rear is very high. You are cooking the tyres. If you have very good grip on lap 1, something may be wrong as usually you need 1 or 2 laps to warm the tyres.

8 December 08, 16:57	#3
Sarafan Donated Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Hague, Netherlands Age: 32	If you're tyres smoke a lot in the turns, it can cause them to heat up very fast as well. Same with locking your brakes. This guide may provide a few new insights. Obviously, not everything is applicable for GTL but it's a good read

9 December 08, 02:30	#4
dartguy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisville Age: 42	I think maybe he means 150 F and 165 F. If that's the case, they aren't very hot.

9 December 08, 05:44	#5
ktmrandy Join Date: Oct 2008	The tire temps I mentioned are F so after more research the range is 170 to 200 so my tires are not very hot so I am starting to think I am overheating the brakes. The car starts out stopping in a straight line from 5th gear to 2nd gear but after a few laps it gets real squirrely like the bias moved to the rear and the front have faded and no longer slow down the car and the rears lock up. I have to pump the brakes to keep the car going straight but it takes longer to stop so I am slower. Lots to learn here it looks like. On the slower tracks where I only shift down 1 gear for corners there is not a problem. Maybe I can install air ducts and bleed the brake lines. Maybe put in steel brake lines.

9 December 08, 08:18	#6
Pizzaman Minifreak & Muscleman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Groningen Centre of the Universe	I'd shift the balance forward and see what it does. Also shift down when you brake, which helps.

9 December 08, 08:31	#7
jukez Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tampere, Finland Age: 37	I had some problems with the brakes of 320 as well. I think I moved the balance more to front. I found the brakes for BMW 320 very powerful compared to default GTL cars. You can also try to decrease the max brake power %. Also adding coast % value helps to stabilize car while braking. -Jukka

9 December 08, 23:19	#8
ktmrandy Join Date: Oct 2008	I think I just have to be carefull when I brake. Early in the race it is great then they get squirrely somethimes. I have adjusted the bias front and back but it only works for awhile then goes squirrely again. If I shift this car down while braking it spins me around so I usually brake but don't shift down until it is time to go. I have the coast set to 70 now and like how it works. The car slides well and is predictable if I have to drift it around.

21 December 08, 16:18	#9
Jadran Join Date: May 2008 Location: Osijek,Croatia Age: 40	Question about tyres. How I can see tyre temp in game? Thanks for replay. salute Jadran

22 December 08, 03:34	#12
tarkus07 Donated Join Date: Jan 2008	Well, it could be many things, but try to go easy with the brake pedal and like Pizzaman mentioned try downshifting while braking-it does help.

23 December 08, 01:50	#14
dartguy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisville Age: 42	Sorry Jadran, I thought you were playing GTR-2. It may not work in GTL. i should learn to read a little better.

23 December 08, 18:37	#15
Jadran Join Date: May 2008 Location: Osijek,Croatia Age: 40	Ok,no problem