STCC BMS new Mercedes Front

[Freakydevil]

Hi guys,

at the moment i´m working on a new frontgrill for the BMS Incognito from STCC.

Ingo from GTR4u also made a new Template so the front and rear lights look more like the Mercedes.

The Car is full Standalone and you can select it in the STCC Class as Mercedes Benz.

Also the car hast full CustomSkin support.

Maybe i also customize the frontsplitter.

Here is the first picture with the new Grill and new template from Ingo.

Greets Freakydevil aka Racingdevil aka Manuel Staggl

[dadada1]

It looks excellent but will this run as the actual car in the series or a separate additional stand alone? What I mean is will it be a BMS mercedes rather than an BMS incogneto?

[Freakydevil]

It will be as Standalone Car in the STCC Class. That means you can select the original BMS Incognito and the Mercedes Benz seperate.

[dadada1]

For me thats a shame, I don't like to add cars to series that didn't race in it. Or will it be possible to exclude it from that season? Otherwize it looks really good.

[Freakydevil]

The shame is on SimBin´s side.

The BMS Incognito is a fantasy Car because the havent the rights from Mercedes to put there car ingame.

I only customized the car to come a step closer to realism.

You can exclude the BMS Incognito with the Car Filter function in the Game so you only have my Mercedes in the Race.

[Siggs]

Can i just say the car looks excellent, even more so with your kick-ass settings. how much AA and AF are you using?!? Looks georgeous.
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[dadada1]

Originally Posted by Freakydevil

The shame is on SimBin´s side.

The BMS Incognito is a fantasy Car because the havent the rights from Mercedes to put there car ingame.

I only customized the car to come a step closer to realism.

You can exclude the BMS Incognito with the Car Filter function in the Game so you only have my Mercedes in the Race.

Ahh I see.

I actually heard that Mercedes refused to give Simbin permssion to use their brand in game and had no choice but to make it like this. So I think the shame is surely on Mercedes.

[Freakydevil]

Originally Posted by Siggs

Can i just say the car looks excellent, even more so with your kick-ass settings. how much AA and AF are you using?!? Looks georgeous.
.

Thanks dude

This are my settings.



@dadada1

Yeah your right, shame for Mercedes they dont give permission for this great game. Would be good promotion for there Brand. But who knows what they are thinking^^

[Eurostc]

yes...this will make the the difference for me !!!

[AMAjr455]

Originally Posted by dadada1

For me thats a shame, I don't like to add cars to series that didn't race in it. Or will it be possible to exclude it from that season? Otherwize it looks really good.

Are you kidding, the car in the game never ran in the series.

Looks Awesome Freakydevil, I'll take it and delete the so called fantasy car that did not run in the series...!

Thanks for your hard work on this

[dadada1]

Originally Posted by AMAjr455

Are you kidding, the car in the game never ran in the series.

Looks Awesome Freakydevil, I'll take it and delete the so called fantasy car that did not run in the series...!

Thanks for your hard work on this

Are you kidding? Of course I know theres no such car as an incognito. Did you read what else I said on the matter? The fantasy element has more to do with the skin than the car. I hate fictionals, never use em.

[Freakydevil]

The Skin is also not fictional. Its from an Old DTM Mercedes

[dadada1]

Yeah I know its not fictional for a Merc, but it is for the STCC Merc

[Freakydevil]

The real Skin from STCC will also be included

[Freakydevil]

Hmm now we have the Problem that the car can´t drive.

It stays in the Pit an when you push the throttle it is like someone holds the car.

Can anybody help with this problem?

[Viper]

If you need help with modding work you're better off posting your question in the Car Skinning / Models / Physics Help section.

[FuNK!]

great thing!
but...some days ago there was a downloadable skin here, using this template and after some time the download disapears...? what happened to it?! without permission!?

when do we get a downloadable version of your changes?

EDIT: read your postings at GTR4u (wusste garnich das du manuel dahinter steckst *rofl* wieder schlauer geworden!) and this all looks really promising! hope you and ingo get the pack together and i have one little idea with the star: perhaps you add the star to the grill model and add a small texture for it - don't think this would be a great problem at all!

[Freakydevil]

The Skin you see here is from Ingo, maybe he canceld the download to reupload the skin with the new grill.

Also he will Change the mask files so the Frontlights will even look better then now.

But if we dont find a solution for the problem, a release is not possible.

[FuNK!]

problem? I don't think the masks are a problem at all!
and if this idea could help: extract the model of the glasses and add it as a second one, only with one pixel between the two meshes and make the changes you want
or do I misunderstand the problem?

[Freakydevil]

Hmm now we have the Problem that the car can´t drive.

It stays in the Pit an when you push the throttle it is like someone holds the car.

Can anybody help with this problem?

I mean this Problem

[FuNK!]

oh! ok, I know that kind of problem!
same happened to me when I have insert the vauxhall from the race addon manually to the steam version by copy the whole car...then I downloaded the standalone car (made by someone whos nick I can't remember now) and that worked fine!
so I could imagine this is only a fault with doubled filenames or such, so the car is not realy stand alone...so I would guess you will need to add all files to a whole new car, meaning rename everything and make it unique :X
hope this isn't too confusing

[Freakydevil]

I had this Idea also and i think i try this now.

[FuNK!]

found the nick of the guy who made the vectra mod for evo: "palmieri"
don't know if he is a user here, so perhaps he can help you with the problem?!

[tmsr]

soslow working on a version some pics from virtualr
http://www.virtualr.net/wp-content/g...oz1pcbwdop.jpg


http://www.virtualr.net/wp-content/g...aua2zllkhi.jpg

[Mojo66]

If you need help on making a standalone car you might wanna take a look at my CTDP F105 patch.

Basically you take all the essential text files, and add an additional SearchPath to the .cas file that points to the original car, i.e. your Merc. That way you a) make the download size about 1Mb instead of 50Mb and b) avoid copyright problems with the author, i.e. SimBin.

Everything that differs from the original will be placed in your new folder. Since the gm2 engine picks up the first matching file that it finds, just make sure the additional line in the .cas is the last of all SearchPaths.

If you need more advice contact me via PM.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Originally Posted by Freakydevil

Hi guys,

at the moment i´m working on a new frontgrill for the BMS Incognito from STCC.

Ingo from GTR4u also made a new Template so the front and rear lights look more like the Mercedes.

The Car is full Standalone and you can select it in the STCC Class as Mercedes Benz.

Also the car hast full CustomSkin support.

Maybe i also customize the frontsplitter.

Here is the first picture with the new Grill and new template from Ingo.

Greets Freakydevil aka Racingdevil aka Manuel Staggl

Looks good. I had the idea of doing this as well but my 3d modelling skills fail me.

Originally Posted by Freakydevil

Hmm now we have the Problem that the car can´t drive.

It stays in the Pit an when you push the throttle it is like someone holds the car.

Can anybody help with this problem?

Check the .hdc for the gearbox filename. I had a similar problem when converting cars from rFactor to GTR2, iirc it was because the gearbox filename was incorrect or missing .grb at the end, this could be a similar problem.

I'll be keeping an eyeout for a download soon. Great job dude.

[Mojo66]

A missing .grb file is easy to spot, just enter the garage setup and there won't be any gears to choose from, zeros everywhere.

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Originally Posted by ******

A missing .grb file is easy to spot, just enter the garage setup and there won't be any gears to choose from, zeros everywhere.

Hmm must've been something else in the .hdc then that caused the issue when I converted from rFactor to GTR 2, I know I went through and tidied up all the filenames so they had the correct extensions, like .grb, .dmg, .tyr etc. and that solved the issue of the car not moving from the garage.

Surely though if he uses the SimBin version of the physics files (the ones for the BMS Incognito) and just uses his own .cas file it'd work ok wouldn't it or are they not representitive of the car the BMS is supposed to be, like the physics files for the other cars are?

[Mojo66]

Probably, but tbh, I dunno.

[pez2k]

I set myself up a basic structure to add the C200 to the menus alongside the BMS, sharing the default model, skin, physics etc. I uploaded it here if you want to compare files to track down your bug. Some of the duplicated BMS files may be unnecessary, but it all works, and I noticed that similar .cas edits like ******'s aforementioned F1 05 patch have a similar amount of duplicated files, as the engine seems to use absolute paths instead of searching the .cas folder list for certain files like the .eng.

Hope it helps, looking forward to a proper Merc fix as the BMS is ugly as sin.

[Freakydevil]

Many many thanks pez2k, thats exactly what i needed.

Can i take your files for the release? Will put your name into the credits.

[tmsr]

just making a btcc skin on the cognito and this thead got me thinking...
With a similar amount of work done to make this real merc couldnt the Incognito be used make other cars, the Lexus would go good the shape isnt too disimilar and rwd already.
I've messed with the grill a bit but cant get it lookin right

[Kacper]

Where i can get STCC cars for Race07 or GTR Evo ?
Please help me

[ianwells]

Originally Posted by Kacper

Where i can get STCC cars for Race07 or GTR Evo ?
Please help me

You have to buy them through Steam.

[pez2k]

Originally Posted by Freakydevil

Can i take your files for the release? Will put your name into the credits.

That's fine by me.

[Freakydevil]

Thanks Mate

Here some onTrack Previews

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Originally Posted by Kacper

Where i can get STCC cars for Race07 or GTR Evo ?
Please help me

Simple - buy STCC.

Through Steam or on import on DVD from Sweden if you're lucky enough to find it on DVD for sale, as I was.

[FuNK!]

now the only little thing what's missing is the small star on the hood

[Freakydevil]

[Freakydevil]

Released

http://www.skins4u.net/index.php?opt...ce07&Itemid=65

[phil23]

Wooohoooo

Thank you for putting the time in to get this much needed modification in

[Pye Man]

My headlights, dont quite look right. Awesome effort tho, Love it now its Merc.

[Richie61]

I really appreciate all the hard work involved with this addition!

Thank you!

[puck13]

now STCC is a better game! Many thanks!

[drdrum]

Originally Posted by Pye Man

My headlights, dont quite look right. Awesome effort tho, Love it now its Merc.

Same with me. Are you using ATI video card?
Pic is at Max settings in game and 4AA x 4AF

[ravenmorpheus2k]

Originally Posted by Freakydevil

Released

http://www.skins4u.net/index.php?opt...ce07&Itemid=65

Nice one dude. Downloading now. Will give this a go when I've finished messing around with Windows 7.

Thanks for making the game a bit more realistic.

[FuNK!]

yeeeeeah! thank you very much

[Pye Man]

Originally Posted by drdrum

Same with me. Are you using ATI video card?
Pic is at Max settings in game and 4AA x 4AF

Im usin an Nvidia Geforce Go6100 graphics card, and that thumbnail is exavtly the same as mine looks

Do we need a better graphics card?

[Freakydevil]

Try to take the files unc_windows_r.dds and unc_body_r.dds from the Mercedes-Benz C200 Teams Folder and put them into the Brovallen Motorsport Folder.

[BORDER]

Hey all

Render scene and painting xfile for this car now available here...

http://www.racingpaintshop.com/index...671&Itemid=260